Hands down, Sauron is the best villain ever created. I especially LOVE Peter Jackson's representation of him, his armor and everything is just perfect. 9 foot of pure badassness.
Sauron is practically a God. The Witch Kinng and the Lich King might be on even grounds but Sauron in full power would obliterate both of them at the same time.
Never realized just how huge Sauron is, he is almost as big as that Ent! When you think about it, Sauron looks like he could fit nicely into the Dark Souls universe. The one Soul, to rule then all! Sauron is Awesome!
No i am actually saying the truth all the soul games are inspired by a japanese comic book called Berserk you should read it it's better Lotr, GoT fucking anything.
I am going to be honest , i took too much pleasure in slapping elves with Sauron's mace and hearing that impact sound as they do that weird and repetitive scream. Yay being evil
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Sauron was inherently immortal before the Ring was ever made, being a Maia. He could never be destroyed, only diminished. His express intention in forging the Ring was to use it to dominate the will of all other ring-bearers, who were the great leaders of all Middle-Earth's people. The Ring also granted power according to one's stature, enhancing their native powers as long as they wore it. So, Sauron would grow more powerful as long as it was in his possession. Gandalf, Radagast, and Saruman were specifically stated to be of a far lower order of Maiar than Sauron, and Sauron was unquestionably stronger than them. In direct confrontation, at least in a contest of their divine power or power over the substance of the world, he would have easily overwhelmed all of the Istari together. Gandalf had worn Narya ever since his arrival on Middle-Earth, and he stilled dare not confront Sauron openly, Ring or no.. Galadriel and Elrond were only able to use their rings to -resist- Sauron's power, not break it or undo it. That's why, when it came time to confront him at Dol Goldur, they brought all the available Istari, all the Great Rings and their bearers and a big ol' army. Even in his weakened state, he would have been more than a match for any of them individually. On another point, none of the Maiar on Middle Earth ever exercised the full extent of their power other than in the War of Wrath. They were concerned about collateral damage to either the world around them (Gandalf, Radagast) or their domains and possessions (Sauron, Saruman). When the Maiar -did- unleash their full power, they broke a continent. Even diminished, Sauron's unrestrained might, particularly as it lay chiefly with the physical substance of the world, would have been a terrible, terrible thing. Consider that Mount Doom erupts in response to Sauron's mere presence, as a side-effect of him being near it. If Sauron chose, he could have torn open the crust of the earth, dredged up volcanos and lava flows, shattered mountain ranges, and the like. However, as his goal was to be Lord of The Earth and worshipped as a god-king by elves and men, destroying giant chunks of his future kingdom ran completely contrary to his interests, and so he, like Gandalf, used his power in more subtle ways. Even with all the power marshaled against him, and, it should be noted, -without- the One Ring, Sauron was on the verge of his final conquest of Middle Earth. The Elves were fleeing for the Havens in droves, and the combined hosts of the West were hopelessly outnumbered and outmatched by his armies, which were dominated and driven by his will. If they had fought, they would have lost, which was the whole point of Gandalf's gambit with Frodo in the first place. It was their only chance.
Morgoth had diminished himself by spreading his essence throughout the physical world. He spent his power creating things, many of which Sauron would later use for his own benefit. He created Orcs, Trolls, Dragons, the Fell Beasts, and other things, in addition to tainting and corrupting the physical world itself. Because of Morgoth, evil, or at least strife, were a part of everything, living and unliving. Even if he had no hand in creating them, he was so much a part of the world that nothing could be free of his influence. But, in the act of spreading that influence, he diminished the power that remained within him. He could no longer shape-shift like the rest of the Ainur, nor could he shed his physical form. However, because he was so thoroughly woven into the fabric of the world, he could not be destroyed while the world endured. Morgoth wasted a great deal of his power trying to change or corrupt the world, and so, in the end, his only power aside from his own physical strength and the ability to dominate minds was in the things he had made. It was worth noting that when he was finally overthrown, the Valar didn't do it, but the Maiar, beings of a far lesser order of power than Morgoth himself. He had brought himself down so far that he was only a shadow of his former power and glory. Moreover, Morgoth never had the intention of simply ruling Middle-Earth. Mastery over it was only a means to an end, that end being the destruction of everything not solely created by him. He hated anything that did not come solely from his own ideas, and so, in the end, he would have destroyed the orcs, trolls, dragons, balrogs, etc, and possibly even himself if he were able, since he had only a part in the creation of those things, and they still originated elsewhere. Sauron, conversely, had no problem making use of others' creations, as seen in that he took advantage of the groundwork Morgoth laid, both in the remnant of Morgoth that remained in the world, which he was able to manipulate to his benefit, and in the creatures Morgoth had twisted to his own ends. Sauron's intention was to rule, not to destroy, and for him, the destruction was a means to the goal of mastery.
***** That's essentially correct, yes. The Ainur are the beings who 'sang' Middle Earth into being, according to the designs of Eru Illuvatar, the One Who is Above All, who would be the god with a Capital G of the setting. The Valar are the major creators of non-sentient life (although Aule created the Dwarves, and Yavanna was responsible for the Ents existing) and the physical substance of the world, as well as its guardians and custodians. The Maiar are their attendants and assistants, who assisted them in their efforts and put the finishing touches on their work. The Maiar were influenced strongly, in their nature and their power, by the Vala whom they served, and some drafts have them being their children, though this isn't canon to the main work. Sauron and Saruman were both Maiar of Aule the Smith, and their talents thus ran to the shaping and crafting of things and an innate understanding of the physical world. Radaghast was a Maia of Yavanna, and so concerned with animals. Gandalf was a strange case, as he was a Maia of Manwe, chief of the Valar, but in practice spent most of his time with Nienna, the Valar of mercy and compassion, which lead to both his concern with even the smallest folk of Middle-Earth and his rather useful rapport with eagles, who were the servants of Manwe.
+ShufflingShoggoth not to mention he stole the silmarills and used them on his crown, even though that caused him pain and diminished his ability. Sauron was indeed subtler and wiser than his mighty master.
It is implied however that Sauron was not completly destroyed after the War of the Ring, albeit greatly diminished his spirit endured as an "evil wind"
Rias Gremory I don't recall that being canon. Last I read, it's only stated that one day Morgoth would break his imprisonment in the Void and wage one last final war against the forces of light. Sauron lost all his power after his ring was destroyed, and was cast out as a mere wind, evil and dark, but never again a threat to the good people of Middle Earth.
@Dr Boom Not "technically" definitely! Sauron is a maiar, a higher spiritual being that can take any form he wishes! Same as Gandalf, Saruman, balrogs etc! They are not elves.
@Dr Boom That's not true either, he doesn't take an elf form, when he deceived celebrimbor he did so as Annatar the maiar sent by the Vala to mend the world.
Dr Boom He isn’t an elf. He only took that form to manipulate Celebrimbor by making the one ring. His real form is unknown. The one he takes is the one in the video.
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2:30 the soundtrack couldn't be accompanied better by the base drop of Sauron's exploding mace except maybe for the scene with the Nazgul attack in ROTK
It's weird to see Sauron move so quickly in this game, compared to how slow and epicly he moved in the Peter Jackson film. He is much more daunting in the movie, like every movement he makes is so great and terrible, it really demonstrates just how feared and powerful he was. Ironic I didn't think much of him as a child considering he died rather quickly, but that was before I knew just how much terror he created among the men and elves of middle earth. One question I ask is this: When did Sauron fall victim to the power of Morgoth/Melkor and become the Dark Lord of Mordor? I know it was sometime between the Children of Hurin and the War of the Rings, far, FAR before the creation of the rings of power, but I'm not entirely sure when he fell.
He fell during the first song. When Morgoth opposed Illuvatar's music with his own theme , Sauron was one of the first to fall to him. You can read it on Silmarillion.
He also built Angband in the years of the lamps , and he is responsible for the fall of numenor. You should dig up on the books , the movies do them little to no justice. None of the movies explained who gandalf really is for example :)
CyrusGreysword Sauron was the strongest maiar in Arda ( the name of the world where everything happens ) . He became a spy for Melkor about valar and their movements when he secretly joined his cause. In middle earth ( back then , called Endor ) he was a sorcerer , lord of werewolves and vampires in first age , he could also shapeshift into deadly creatures . He retained his shapeshifting abilities till the fall of Numenor ( second age ) . Also eye of sauron is magic , not himself , He already formed his physical body before the events of The Hobbit . People called him Necromancer while he was in Dol Guldur . I love what Gandalf says in the Hobbit book : " Not even the all mighty dwarven forces can defeat him . Forget about the south , forest is the safest path for you . " If you read the books you can understand why Gandalf wanted the events of The Hobbit to happen . He did not want Sauron and Smaug to ally ( imagine Smaug fucking up Minas Tirith ) . Peter Jackson's Hobbit films are retarded and bad ( exception of the first film ) . Trust me books are better . In the last days of Arda , Sauron will be resurrected by Morgoth . It is hard to read Silmarillion the first time . One last thing . Do you want to hear a funny story ? My name is Arda too :D , I was like wtf is going on when i saw my name on the book .
Medivhmen sauron is terrible, but one thing i have learn. he know the presence balrogs in moria or also called "Durin's bane". But Sauron cannot make him to be ally because he just likes sauron, a maiar. so a servants cannot obey another servants (they both servants of Morgoth before). and i think the war on third and second age is not soo big than first age, except the last alliance. imagine the war like dagor bragollach, dagor aglareb, and also fall of gondolin when forces of Morgoth attack city with hundreds of dragon and balrogs (ten balrogs is enough to bring down minas tirith) against the great forces of noldorin elves and men. we can also see great battle between Morgoth and Fingolfin after dagor bragollach. It is an epic war if it can be filmed by Peter Jackson, with the last part of film is show how the wrath of valar against Melkor in dagor dagorath which make beleriand devastated and leveled to the sea until cannot seen again in map of middle-earth.
It's been a while since I read the Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, but if I recall correctly, Olorin specifically talked to Manwe about how he's not too powerful by Maiar standards, to which Manwe replied that Olorin has great influence and is well loved by/has great love for the children of Eru (and that was the important bit). Plus, in the Two Towers, when Gimli asked him if Treebeard is dangerous, Gandalf said that he himself is the most dangerous being they were going to meet unless they were to step into Barad Dur. I don't think anything is conclusive, all we can do is give our interpretations of what Tolkien wrote, and mine is that Sauron would have the upper hand in a straight out duel with Gandalf, even if Gandalf is allowed to use his full Maia powers.
Sauron is way more powerful than Gandalf. He was the strongest of the Maiar, the only things more powerful than Sauron are the Valar and Morgoth. Tolkien even said that Gandalf would only have a chance in beating Sauron with the ring
*even said. And it's in one of his letters. I don't feel like finding it right now, but I'll link it later. Somebody was asking him what happens if someone tries to use the ring against Sauron, and he explained that nobody else but Gandalf could even have a chance of fighting Sauron with the ring. With everyone else, the ring would just lead them to it's master so they could get recked and then Sauron would just take the ring. It's also explicitly stated everywhere that Sauron is the most powerful of the Maiar, there are only 14 "super spirits" called the Valar that are more powerful then him. He could just walk around and destroy everybody, but he doesn't like fighting. He only goes out if every single person in his army is destroyed as a last resort. He would rather conquer middle earth from his tower.
Yaboi Yaboy But like Morgoth, he's been punished to can only manifest a physical form, thus making him drastically weaker. Man i dunno, he got his fingers cut by a man. Not even mentioning a fucking blacksmith can go toe-to-toe with him.
The fact that Tolkien did not mention in this UT quote was that Sauron was never 100% after his first defeat. Olorin was indeed the most innately powerful being remaining in Middle Earth, and there is no real argument to the contrary.
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Gandalf was indeed more powerful than Sauron, but had a personal code to not use his powers in the way that Sauron did. In fact, Gandalf was the most powerful being still remaining in middle earth.
Morgoth was the First Dark Lord of Middle-earth before Sauron. In fact in the Elder Days Sauron was but his lieutenant. Morgoth was the greatest Enemy in all Arda (the World). His origin and character is some what similar to Satan's. Morgoth was responsible for the creation of the Orcs. Morgoth was defeated at the end of the First Age along with the destroyed Northern lands of Beleriand and he was cast into the Void for all entirely. Sauron then took the title of Dark Lord.
Bro the first time I found out you could sacrifice to play sauron and I saw that black iron armor walk onto the battle field great mace in hand I lost it man
Also in the books, He can create mountain-sized waves, massive earthquakes, he can errupt volcanoes by using his willpower. As Boromir said, the dark lord rules the storms, lighting and weather. His true spiritual form is massive and terrible as hell.
Isildur got lucky. Sauron was dumb enough to reach out with the hand the Ring was on, allowing Isildur to swing out with the broke Narsil hilt and slice his fingers off.
Sorry, YOU'RE the one who's wrong. The Istari Olorin was forbidden by Manwe to use his powers to match Sauron, which is why he took the human-like form of Gandalf and was reserved in what he would and wouldn't do for to assist those opposed to Sauron. The very first time Frodo put on the Ring and sensed Sauron looking at him, it was Gandalf that also entered his head and ordered him to take it off, which saved his life.
