LORD OF THE RINGS: The Fellowship of the Ring | First Time Watching | Movie Reaction | Commentary 

Very much so. I've heard that it's become big tourism to go visit the filming locations.

at seenEverything: But also the the landscape by itself. When I first saw the films in the theatres I wanted to jump right into the screen.

Shows you how much I was paying attention to that detail. I even mentioned how Elrond looked the same after more than 3,000 years. Thanks for the correction and thanks for watching.

Three thousand years: Twenty five hundred before Gollum found the Ring and another five hundred until he lost it.

​@SeenEverything I found you missed a number of things and asked questions that had been answered, or made assumptions because you missed dialigue. Perhaps pause if you are going to do lengthy commentary as many facts or hints come back later; it should provide a bit better experience. 😊

@@majbratAgree. Hopefully he´ll probably catch a lot while editing. Thing that surprises me is how many first time viewers don´t seem to realize that Bilbo never new what ring he had found. Neither did Gandalf, although he new that magic rings in general could be treacherous.

Its that long in the book and its meant to also show that the ting is keeping Frodo from aging, however in the films its seems like its supposed to be a few weeks or months between Bilbo's birthday and Gandalf returning.

Peter Jackson himself considers the Theatrical cuts to be the definitive editions. He said so in an IGN interview in 2003.

In 2003 he didn't have a choice to say otherwise. Since the, the extended versions are the gold standard. The theatrical versions are the Cliff Notes for people with short attention spans.

Americans don't know what a Philosopher is??

That's some awesome trivia. I wonder if he was a fan.

Hardcore fan, actually. He would often correct the team on pronunciation, style or tone, based on what he knew from his conversations with Tolkien. And he was most miffed by certain key elements that were omitted in the translation from book to screen. Both the omissions and his reaction were quite understandable… Just part of the challenge of any good adaptation…

@@SeenEverything Christopher Lee was a huge fan, and became an acquaintance of Tolkien due to the age difference Tolkien was cordial and did allow Christopher Lee to attend a couple meetings of the inklings at the stork and child pub in Oxford.

@@SeenEverything Christopher Lee was such a fan of Tolkien that he re-read The Lord of the Rings every year.

@@rikk319and took part in musical bands. Rock and traditional performances. Tolkien ensemble and other things such as audiobooks of children of hurin. Which also those readings were added to many rock songs too!

Or, to summarize: The Extended Editions are essential viewing.

Actually Frodo didn't appear to age at all in the book, so he still looked 33 (the hobbit equivalent of 18), which is what age Elijah Wood was when they started filming, so a very observant casting choice.

Yeah, I certainly must have missed that. I thought they were really good friends. Especially Sam's loyalty to Frodo. Not surprised that it was made a lot more obvious in the books, given the time period. Thanks for context.

Yeah, I completely messed that one up. Forgot how long they had said it had been. Thank you for the correct info and for watching!

Aha! That would have made a lot more sense. I’ll have to go back and watch that version at some point. Thanks for explaining that and thanks for watching!

@@SeenEverythingid watch a comparison reaction.

@@MrGaleanon And you see my idea. A companion video. Mainly focusing of the extra content in the extended version.

@@SeenEverything The lore from the books is immense, There are 10K years of stories covering everything from the creation of the world to the war of the ring. Christopher Tolkien filled in the War in the North when his father was too old and ill to write anymore. For every tiny little thing mentioned in these movies there are stories going into detail.

I completely agree. Hobbit feet were were a costume/make-up effect failure for the reasons you mentioned - and the film makes no attempt to convey Tolkien's explanation as to why Hobbits go about barefoot. Another thing that annoys me is how the film makers deliberately gave the impression to people who haven't read the books, that pipe-weed is marijuana. I've seen many ignorant reactors howling with laughter that the Hobbits were getting high.

🤣 Yeah. That's why I threw in the laughing faces. I figured out who he was during editing. I'll have to look out for his other cameos. Thank you for commenting and for watching!

It certainly does tell you a lot more about how the ring takes its hold on people. Thank you for the analysis and for watching!

@@SeenEverything Let me be the 95th (but not the last, I'm very sure) to tell you that you get all this background in the extended cuts.

I see. But wasn't Arwen giving up her immortality somehow to be with Aragorn? Maybe I misunderstood what was happening there.

@@SeenEverything An elf in love with a human can choose to become mortal giving up the light of the Eldar, something else to remember and Elf can only love once in Tolkien's universe. So Arwen will love Aragorn forever even if she were to leave middle earth to the undying lands she would never love again. That is why grief is so deadly to an Elf, to a being who measures time in ages of the Earth, losing someone you love means an eternity alone.

@@SeenEverything No, what Arwen gave up was her elven afterlife. The book makes it clear that elves and humans have different fates after they die. Elves can reincarnate and return to Middle-Earth eventually if they wish, even if they do die. If they don't, they're welcome anyway in Valinor, which is more than across the sea--it takes a special elven ship to sail there, and it's really more like in a nearby dimension. Humans, though, no one knows where they go after they die, though many speculate they go to be with Eru Illuvatar--the God of Middle-Earth. Aragorn, being a human, will eventually die and probably go to Eru. Arwen, even if she dies, will go to Valinor. They'd never see one another again. Being the child of Elrond, who was given the choice between an elven life or human life (and afterlife), Arwen also gets the choice. The sad thing is, regardless of what she chooses, there will be loved ones she'll never see in the afterlife--either she'll never see Aragorn again, or she'll never see her father, mother, twin brothers and other elven people again. If she marries Aragorn, he will eventually die, but she won't die until she chooses to...but if she wants to be with Aragorn in the afterlife, she has to eventually die. That's what she's choosing when she says, "I choose a mortal life".

Yeah, totally forgot. it certainly is a lot to take in. Thanks for watching!

THAT is a committed fan. Makes me happy to see someone’s love of a story be so lasting. Thanks for the encouragement! 🙂

@@SeenEverything You're most welcome. Cheers!

@@nemesis4852and what about The Silmarillion, Lay Of Leithien, Unfinished Tales, Book Of Lost Tales, Red Book Of Westmarch and Children Of Húrin, Morgoth’s Ring, or Laws And Customs Of The Eldar paired with 12 volumes of history of middle earth or The Lost Road?

Yeah, it was certainly startling. His pain and rage were really real. That actor did a great job.

@@SeenEverythingthat actor is John Rhys-Davies. He also voices Treebeard in the next movie. 😊 If you’ve seen Indiana Jones/Raiders of the Lost Arc, he plays Indy’s side kick when they’re in Egypt. Very talented actor.

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I will think about doing that. I considered doing it with this movie, but it mostly came down to time and editing. Without giving too much away, can you tell me why you feel like the extended versions are significantly better? Thanks for the comment and for watching!

​​@@SeenEverything Without giving anything away, it's more magic to watch ! ✨️ the extended version gives you extra scenes with awesome characters and the chemistry is amazing. Especially the fact that this was all shot with 2000s methods,all authentic and REAL ! I watched this as a kid but rewatching as an Adult is on a whole other level 💯

@@SeenEverything already said by others.. but extra details that make some scenes make more sense... (ie the cloaks) and also they've added more details directly from the books.

@@SeenEverythingbasically saying: extended version are containing significant parts that are in the books and turning this way more authentic adaptation. Let’s say “Tolkien-ish” than this. We always say the extended version is the only version and that’s not an exaggeration. As for time: that’s why it’s usual that Lord of the Rings is it’s in 2 parts on RU-vid. You can’t find anyone who will advise to watch theatrical release, in fact we watched the extended too in cinema back then. Some of us had a full 3 movies extended marathon in cinema 12 hours.

@@nazimelmardiyes! Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result. Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons. - Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart. But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again. The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️). Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film. It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!” It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!

"In Tolkien's standards when you mix families or races, you get more powerfull-special beings" only when both of those are nobIe races or bIoodIines, its clear that he fully acknowledged there are superior and inferior ones.

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Meanwhile in the books Sauron had regained a physical body again but when a Maia loses a physical body they take a long time to be able to forge a new one as it takes alot out of their fëa spirit to do that especially depending on how they are slain especially like when Elendil and Gil Galad slain him !

Thank you very much for that insight. It puts the characters in better context for me. I do intend to make it through the extended cuts as well, but everyone stating it so passionately just further convinces me that I need to watch the theatrical cuts first. To fully appreciate the extended cuts. People don't seem to realize that part of their enjoyment of those cuts almost certainly comes from knowing how much better they are than the theatrical cuts. Only way I can have that experience for myself is to see those first too. I hope you'll stick around for the journey. Thanks for watching!

@@SeenEverything I was going to recommend you watch the extended cuts as well, but that's a really good point. I'm happy just knowing you will see them sometime and that you'll be able to appreciate them. (If the theatrical cuts were BAD, I might feel differently, but they're great in themselves too. But then the extended ones are even better. =o)

@@timmowarner Thank you for the positivity about that idea, but if you're subscribed you'll see me watch the extended editions out here too. Maybe not immediately, but I will be making reaction videos for them. Thanks for watching!

I imagine that would be nearly impossible. Looking forward to meeting the other one. Thanks for watching!

The "other character" you refer to is only in the books.

That is incredible and terrifying. I'm glad he was okay.

That is amazing. What a great guy!

I'm definitely getting that sense from the comments. I think I may have an idea for how to do both the theatrical and extended cut. I'll see if I can figure it out. Thank you for commenting and for watching!

@@SeenEverythingwhat’s the idea. We’d love to hear it in an interim video between the next upload and the next LOTR reaction.

Sounds like he was quite the fan.

@@SeenEverything and the biggest actor in the traditional they’re and film worlds. He’s one of the quintessential greats. Who all actually been through things. Actually survived things. Came from all sorts of backgrounds. There are videos of him to react to. Both music-wise as well as his interviews from his home where he’s explaining the details and history of swords as he’s showing them off with poise and grace. Whilst also explaining how when he filmed the three musketeers you actually sounded eachother alot as you were using real deal weapons and trained to use them authentically. He already had the training. He’s gotten many wounds over those years and it was all good fun. But everyone took the craft seriously.

I'd agree, but if we could count fan-edits of Jackson's trilogy, there are a couple of those I'd rate above '77 RB Hobbit.. They show there was a good movie in there trying to get out, if the studios hadn't forced it into being a three movie bloated abomination...

That's okay. I don't mind. Thanks for stopping by.

Makes sense. Seemed like the kind a place that had a cross section of people from everywhere. I feel like you have to have at least one place like that in any world like this. Just so different characters can have a natural place to come together. Thanks for commenting and for watching!

@@SeenEverything Breeland was an area like a large county there were quite a few towns that had mixed hobbit and human inhabitants, just as the shire had many small towns. The shire would be about the size of New Hampshire, and Breeland would be about the size of Maine. To give you an idea of how far they traveled in this movie think of walking from Oxfordshire in the UK to Switzerland/Northern Italy.

@@VadulTharys The Shire is 120 miles x 150 miles, or 18,000 square miles; about the size of the English Midlands. Breeland is roughly 25 miles in diameter, or 490 square miles; so much smaller than The Shire.

@@rikk319 Check the maps, Breeland is like 4X the size of the shire, it is made up of quite a few towns.

@@VadulTharys Tolkien mentions the villages of Archet, Staddle, and Combe also in Breeland, but those measurements of The Shire and Breeland I gave you were based on Tolkien's maps; they're accurate. The Shire has dozens of towns noted on the specific map of The Shire Tolkien drew--it's much larger than Breeland.

Very effective moment. 🤣

If you look carefully you can see the beginning of a smirk on Ian McKellan's face just before they cut away.

A lot more interesting. I feel like these are nuances that become easier to see with repeat viewing. The first time through, with no knowledge what to look for, there is a lot to take in. Thank you again for the context.

Interesting to see it here for those who already knew that story I imagine.

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Tolkien, (The OG of all Authors) was a veteran of the First World War and many other battles such as The Battle Of Somme etc. his works of art were to give back to the England as a form of restoring lost mythologies that he himself was a master of since he was a top professor of philology at Oxford. He did ALOT of his writing while in the trenches during WWI during small “breaks” while down in those trench forts built into the ground. And while he eldest son was in the Second World War; his Lord Of The Rings writings was strictly created above all else to give his eldest something to read while stationed wherever he was stationed. I forgot that part. They sent letters back and forth about it all the time. He was also the one and only son that actually protected his fathers legacy and work. A lot of his other work were put together BY his son after his father passed away. It’s well worth to react to the documentary behind the scenes film the director and crew and cast created together as well as the interview with the son Christopher Tolkien who you get to sort of enjoy a nice indoor and outdoor chat for like what came to about 1-2 hours of wonderful footage from an era that really must not be forgotten. His work shed a light on things like The Finnish Kalevala, Norwegian Elder Edda, The Welsh Mabinogion, The Norwegian Nibelungen, The Indian Bhagvagita & Several Irish Folklore + other Cultural things! The man also restored and translated ancient relics for the governments as one everyone trusted. Much of what’s in our dictionary come from his efforts as well. Anytime he spoke & even posted several comments into the paper as an editorial or response to certain issues as a very involved man for the world and the environment everyone turned their head to listen to him as everyone knew his worth and respected him greatly. His works show how NOT to glorify war; shows in the films if you pay close attention while watching the next films. Sharing what you know now via the after thoughts at the end of the second film! Remember. Extended edition. There is a lot missed out on especially in the second movie regarding Boromir backstory which there is much more in the books but the films WANTED to keep more but the cinemas and Harvey Weinstein literally harangued him into making a “theatrical cut” which is why you have two versions. The real version and the “theatrical cut”. It was all to make more money for the company that is the theatres/cinemas. To get more showings in per day during the year. And believe me. People were camping outside and travelling the country to watch it MORE THAN ONCE. His creations literally lead to inspiring the most currently famous books games & movies we all literally wouldn’t have enjoyed and be touched to our souls core without him and his spiritually connected brilliance. That and he was a philologist professor at Oxford first and foremost which covers so many things. Not just linguistic. The man was a true genius and Jack of all trades but ultimately LOVED the simple life. The inspiration for Lord of the Rings was not any war, but author J.R.R. Tolkien's love of language. Especially Welsh, Finnish and Old English. He lamented the loss of any true English folklore, that was wiped out after the Norman invasion of 1066, so Tolkien wrote many books on these new "legends" he came up with himself. Much of which is centered around three languages he fully developed himself. Two Elven languages and Dwarvish., Númenorean Adunaic, Black Speech(warped Numenorean and elvish) They all have syntax, vocabularies, and a whole writing system that can be learned as the Tengwar alphabet is moreso to match with the spoken elvish rather than one to one for other country’s alphabet. Hundreds of people worldwide speak elvish fluently. Tolkien did draw upon his personal experience in the trenches of World War ONE, not Two, as inspiration for some parts, most notably, the Dead Marshes that Frodo and Sam and Gollum pass through in The Two Towers. But war was not the inspiration for the entire series. World Of Warcraft. Skyrim, Harry Potter, Diablo, D&D, even Warhammer and so forth wouldn’t have. Existed without taking inspiration from and or completely ripping off from Tolkien. Many great documentaries to react to about him also more about him and AWESOME stuff from the hours & hours of behind the scenes documentaries from the DVDs of the movies which are also on RU-vid & I can send you a playlist to react to from top to bottom on the channel called Pajasek99. I’d also like to explain Gandalf a bit too: Tolkien drew alot of inspiration from the norse mythology. Magical rings, Gandalf (Staff elf in old norse), Gandalfs outfit (Odin), Gandalfs title 'the grey wanderer' (Odin), Shadowfaxe (The horses of day and night Rhimfaxe and Skinfaxe), Trolls, elves, dwarves etc. * Odin had a legendary horse, Sleipnir, who had eight legs and was said to be one of the greatest horses known to the gods. Gandalf had Shadowfax, who had no equal among horses in Middle-earth and could understand the speech of men. * Ødin’s legendary gear-the spear Gungnir and the ring Draupnir-could have influenced Gandalf’s legendary sword Glamdring or, more likely, the magic staff he carries, while the ring possibly influenced Gandalf’s possession of the ring Narya (Sturlson 145). * Gandalf and Odin both receive new wisdom as a result of sacrifice, as Gandalf is reincarnated after his fight with the Balrog, and Ødin gains power and wisdom after hanging himself on the tree Yggdrasil for nine days (Sigfusson 80-85). * One of the most apparent ways in which Gandalf and Ødin are alike is that they both take the shape of an old grey pilgrim, with a wide-brimmed hat and grey cloak when they wander the mortal world and deal with the inhabitants (Pitts 7). * Gandalf and Ødin are virtually reflections of each other, as can be observed through examining their gear and animal companions, the way they sacrificed themselves and were rewarded with wisdom, and the fact that they walk the earth as old men in tattered clothing. The Renowned Steeds of Gandalf and Odin Gandalf and Ødin both have renowned horses and staves with magical properties. Odin carries the legendary spear Gungnir, which is said never to miss its mark when thrown (Sturlson 145); however, he also carries it as his staff when he wanders the earth as an old man. In the Poetic Edda, the Valkyrie Sigrdrifa advises Sigurd about the magical application of runes and tells him that there are runes inscribed on the tip of Gungnir (Sigfusson 291). This spear could be a parallel to Glamdring( High Elven King Turgon’s sword, that was forged for the Goblin wars but is most likely influential to the staff Gandalf carries on his journeys. Strikingly similar to Shadowfax, Odin possesses a legendary horse named Sleipnir, who has eight legs and can run on the ground and through the air at great speeds. This sounds very similar, in some ways, to Tolkien’s description of Shadowfax in The Two Towers, “Shadowfax tossed his head and cried aloud as if a trumpet had summoned him to battle. Then he sprang forward. Fire flew from his feet; night rushed over him” (Tolkien 228). Elden Ring, Dungeons And Dragons, Diablo, Zelda, Harry Potter, vamp diaries, Red Sonja, Oath Breakers, Dragon Lance, Willow, Conan, Swords and Magic, Highlander movie+series and so much more were inspired by Tolkiens works.​​⁠

Certainly gives a deeper meaning to the character.

I don't remember thinking it was a bad name. I think I was just curious why they were still using it after revealing his real name. I guess I thought that Strider was an alias. Thanks for explaining it and thanks for watching.

Thank you for all of those clarifications. It's a lot of information to take in on the first viewing for sure. At least I'll start out knowing more about the characters on the next movie.

@@SeenEverything When you dig into the lore you will be stunned, more so when you learn how devoted the fan base is. Then there are the video games and online games based off this world with the most lore accurate being LOTRO. The thing that tends to shock people is to learn that Arwen is a cousin of Aragorn and that her great grandparents on her father's side are the ancestors of Aragorn, and that Elrond is an Uncle of Aragorn, separated by over 5k years.

Oh I'm trying to. 🤣 Thank you.

Yeah. Stupid mistake on my part. But it's bound to happen from time to time. Thanks for watching!

Something tells me you're right. 🙂 Thanks for commenting and watching!

That’s completely fair. That would definitely make you an incredible shot. I forgot that some of these people have lived for thousands of years. Legolas is another one of the names I struggled to remember the whole time for some reason too. That and Boromir. Anyway, thanks for the comment and for watching!

@@SeenEverything Arwen, Elrond's daughter, is also a couple of thousand years older than Aragorn; talk about an age gap.

Trivia: Sir Ian Holm also played Frodo in a 1980's BBC Radio production of LOTR.

Yeah, I looked him up again later. I felt bad in the moment. He was great. I saw him in so many things over the years.

That is definitely interesting trivia. I wonder if that's why he was cast as Bilbo here.

@@SeenEverything I suspect it was.

He also played Napoleon in Time Bandits.

Thank you. I've certainly enjoyed it so far. Going to finish up the theatrical trilogy and then, sometime in the near future, I'm going to do reaction videos for the extended editions of the trilogy as well. Looking forward to appreciating the differences in how the stories are told. Thanks for commenting and watching!

🤣 Yeah. Solid hit. Totally messed that one up. Thanks for keeping me honest and for watching.

If you're referring to me as a younger generation, thanks for making me feel young. If it's me you're talking about sitting through a long movie, it had more to do with that I was in my office chair, trying (and failing) to stay in frame. And that it was nearly 3 AM when I finished. 🤣 Under more comfortable circumstances I have no problem, but those aren't so good for filming. Thanks for watching!

It was certainly an incredible achievement for the time. You don't even have to be a fan of LOTR to know that. I comment in one part of this reaction about how good the CGI is for the time period. That's because I've seen plenty of other things for that time period where the CGI is laughable in comparison. Thanks for the information and thanks for watching!

@@SeenEverything Yeah, I heard that comment. Along with others, it made me think you're into the making of a movie as much as the film itself. Thus my comments. Thanks for getting back to me.

🤣 Oh there's still time. And think of how much more I'll appreciate it.

Yeah. That was one of the biggest fumbles I made. Trying to keep everything straight I missed a few things and got some things wrong. But I suppose that's what repeat viewings are for. 🙂 Thanks for keeping me honest and for watching.

That makes sense. All the more reason that he left the ring sitting there on the floor when Bilbo dropped it at the beginning of the movie. Thank you for the explanation.

I didn't even pay attention on Ian McKellen. Wow. Absolutely right. Thank you.

Thank you for the listing. I think I may have come up with an idea to do both the theatrical and extended editions. Not sure yet. Thank you for commenting and for watching!

@@SeenEverythingwhat’s the idea? Tolkien fans are the best at brainstorming and helping you achieve whatever you are wanting to do in life. ❤

Thank you. I'm likely going to do the extended versions on the channel here at some point too, but I almost always start with the theatrical cuts of any movie.

He has an undisclosed plan to tackle the extended. Sadly first time reactors never get a chance to do so. Many that do it or rewatch right away as properly designed they feel alot more invested and impacted a lot harder by the third film. Even things like Éomer reacting to what he thinks is his dead sister is rather heart breaking as the performance was authentic and beyond frantic. Total distraught-ness.

Actually when I'm watching movies, I generally don't talk. But I'm also still a new reactor and still trying to find the balance to avoid problems on my videos. I do appreciate the constructive criticism. 🙂 I also plan to make it through both the theatrical and extended versions. We'll see if that plan comes about.

@@SeenEverythingyou’ll find the best constructive criticism from LOTR “fans” in general. They’re always a sensible bunch with many passions within many subjects & fields. ❤

Off topic. Is the bottom dollar more valuable than the other ones? 🤣 Thank you so much for the encouragement. Still fighting my way through. I didn't know the ring was sentient. I just thought it was a direct connection to Sauron. Useful information. Thanks!

Right. The movie (unlike the book) starts out by making it very clear to the audience that the ring Bilbo has is The One Ring, which may be misleading, because none of the characters (including Bilbo and Gandalf) know this at that point.

I see. And, of course, Gandalf finds out that anything Saruman has told him is highly suspect. Thank you for commenting and for watching!

You have educated me on something of which I was unaware. That does make more sense though. Do you know if the three parts were serialized for their initial release or was it always a single volume? I know that the Count of Monte Cristo was serialized in 18 parts, which is at lease some of the reason the complete story is so long.

@@SeenEverything It’s a slightly confusing story. The book was written as one complete volume, however Britain was just coming out of the shadow of World War 2, our cities and economy were being rebuilt and a lot of of things were expensive and in short supply. So the publisher would have been taking a big risk by publishing such a big book - paper and printing costs would have been a big expense for the company. In addition, after The Hobbit - a smaller children’s book, was a success, the publisher had asked Tolkien for a follow-up story to capitalise on its success. However, what Tolkien eventually sent them was totally different from anything published before. It wasn’t a children’s book and the structure was extremely unconventional. The publisher had no idea if anyone would buy it. So, for the above reasons, they split it into three volumes: if the Fellowship of the Ring didn’t sell, they wouldn’t publish the other two. Also, because of the strange structure of the book, Tolkien further split each volume into “Books” - difficult to explain why, but it makes sense when you read it. The films don’t follow the structure of the book, though.

Thank you for the warm welcome. Definitely good advice on the subtitles. I didn't think about that. It is very nice, and certainly speaks to the work of the filmmakers, that there can be a film series that is so beloved by the fans of the source material. Too often so much gets lost in adaptation. Of course in the interest of brevity it's hard to include everything. But there are some who "adapt" without respect for the source material at all. I've seen that too many times. Good to see the opposite of that here. Thank you for commenting and for watching!

Thank you so much. I plan to do both. So I can understand first hand why the extended cuts are better.

Okay. I can respect that. Personally, I think watching the theatrical cuts first usually makes the extended cuts even better. Which I also plan to do on this channel.

@@SeenEverythinghow long until the extended then? Believe me. People who do extended for the next two in the trilogy are ten times happier for it. Especially if it’s their first time. It hits deeper.

I’ll explain even more deeply. - Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result. Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons. - Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart. But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again. The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️). Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film. It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!” It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!

🤣 I'm with you. My regular headphones are busted and ugly. I had one headphone in the ear on the other side of my head. But still, fair point.

Thank you very much. I don't know if it will be the very next one I'll do, but I certainly will be doing it. I also think I've come up with an idea for how to do both the theatrical and extended cuts, but we'll see if I can make it work. Thank you for commenting and for watching!

Wow! Had no idea The Hobbit was written first. Crazy. Thanks for educating me about that and for watching.

@@SeenEverything I forgot to mention that The Hobbit is a children's book. With (amongst other things) Elrond's elves sitting in trees singing silly songs.

@@bernice6867 I feel like I've heard that somewhere before. Seems like they must have created a lot of new story for the Hobbit movies.

@@SeenEverything Yes they did. They took a lot from Tolkien's own writings but also made up things. And tgey chsnged it tonally to make it as epic as LOTR.

Yes they definitely answered that question there. I guess I was wondering if that was his only reason or how that came about. Like if something specific happened to make him leave. A little fuzzy on what I had in mind there.

Isildur never failed in the book. he instead spends his time being a fair ruler who practically gave power away to the people INSTEAD of being power hungry. He comes to realize that he is not powerful enough to truly bend the ring to his will. That it will eventually overcome him. Isildur resolves to give the ring to Elrond but is killed on the way to Rivendel. It's a tragic story of a man that tries to right his wrong but ultimately fails. In the books isildur literally repented and was about to bring the ring to Rivendell and apologize as he recognized it was beyond him even for a great numenorean connected to the faithful line of the mighty Elendil I preface the prologue & war, other depictions I LOVE, captured the themes WELL, the vibe of the whole trilogy! The significance of the duel between Elendil & Sauron was Nerffed; (He wasn’t some random old bloke in armour getting smacked around) This man was MIGHTY and gleaming with power which you’ll find out in the great videos you’ll soon react to with joy! * He and Gil-Galad; last true Elven King battled Sauron and slayed Sauron’s physical body and both died in the process. GilGalad was held high by the face for all free peoples to see as he then incinerated his bodily form to a crisp of ash! Isildur was part of the fight too but not as prominently and he just comes up to the body to cut the ring finger off and…. So one example is how easily Sauron is killed in the intro. * • He's set up as this super powered badass, but all you have to do is cut off his finger? That's not how it went down in the book, where the greatest man-king and the greatest elven-king had to double-team Sauron to strike down his body, but were killed in the effort (Isildur then cuts the ring from the corpse). Especially for elves the title of king has many meanings & by the Third Age there isn’t a population large enough to even attempt to such a thing as creating a unified kingdom, which would put a target on their backs, let alone many of them are beyond all of that anyway as it’s seen as doing more harm than anything good. * They also seen what happened when the elves fell upon the swords of their own hubris and passion no matter if it was for the right reasons some of the time. That it always ended up in some sort of tragedy which sometimes even damaged the earth itself. They had long known about what’s called the Long Defeat as ever since Morgoth’s marring of the land itself; pouring his remnants into it that caused the “magic” to slowly drain away from the land itself, which is sad because for ages several clans of elves were born there. even the greatest ancestors were “born” in middle earth awakening to the stars ! Many of who are left have accepted the next phase of their life which is to become councillors, healers and loremasters to those with the heart to listen and the desire to learn. But above all the guardians and custodians of several things and the world itself for as long as they can remain!❤ The elves “exist” as long as the world does. And Tolkien made it obvious in many ways that it’s our world as he restored Anglo Saxon culture/Mythologies and folklore, and their languages too alongside Irish, Welsh and Finnish mythologies too. Especially Norwegian(of which I am) This is what Amazon (the show that shall not be named) didn’t deliver either [[AKA the actual story which inspired everything we love into existence with games and movies and books and so forth. Skyrim, elder scrolls, oblivion, Diablo, and world of Warcraft and D&D. And Game Of Thrones was hugely inspired by Tolkien… yet as the godfather of everything and the heart of what caused many peoples lives to be saved cannot get the justice it deserves for adaptations? People literally conquered cancer because of the books and the trilogy, the books were read to their children for years. All 25 of them. The man was a hugely respected scholar and professor in the world. Translated ancient artifacts and hieroglyphs and petroglyphs and so forth for the government etc. (JRR Tolkien even rejected being recruited into the CIA several times & he wrote everyone by letter and referenced the dudes who came to him as “little boys who knew not what they got themselves into” which showed his fearlessness.). The readers of the trilogy that came out are who he writes back to despite always replying to everyone back and forth. Many people have shared the stories regarding these conversations which were past down throughout the family lines of the people who had a personal relationship with Tolkien which was hundreds of people when he was alive. Thousands. (Some are in video format too or happened to be shared later on in the video or comes up during a video about him and his work. Especially nowadays when many of us came out of the woodwork to defend professor Tolkiens legacy from amazons money grubbing hands and so forth. Giving many channels a new lease on life where some make Tolkien related content now amongst other things they create content wise.

@@SeenEverythingyou’d also see from the extended edition scene between Elrond and Aragorn when he was kneeling at his mothers memorial grave. Gilraen. ❤

@@SeenEverythingjust react to the extended edition scenes or the whole extended edition film again. The scenes that are nicely explained and detailed in a concise video format is by RichieNicksGeeking. Title of video is “Top 10 extended edition scenes from fellowship of the ring”

I've been hearing that a lot. I plan to do the extended editions after the theatrical ones.

Oh, I fall on the "bad" side of that line plenty. 🤣 But you have to be willing to take a swing. Thank you btw.

Yeah, that is definitely not made clear in the movie. It seems like it all happens very quickly.

@@SeenEverything yeah, this was put in to show that while Gandalf knew Bilbo has a magic ring, he only had a very slight suspicion it could possibly be the one Ring. Putting it in the fire and getting the red lettering was his first confirmation. remember he said to Saruman that " Imagine that, all this time and it was under my very nose in the Shire". Also, though it's never mentioned in the movies, each wizard of the order was assigned a specific section of Middle Earth to watch over. The Shire was in Gandalf's area which is why he knew the hobbits well So he was kinda taking responsibility for not finding about the ring earlier.

sorry if this has been mentioned before, I never read through the comments before posting this.

@@glenroberts9831 Yep, he spent that 17 years researching, because he suspected it was possible and when he had reason to believe that it MIGHT be the one ring, he returned to test his suspicion :)

I feel like I heard Elijah Wood talk about that in an interview before. Can't remember if he said he ended up with one or not.

You witnessed a ROP lover become in love with the trilogy and watch her ditch ROP in giant incremental steps. It was wonderful. A brilliant soul named FlowStateReacts. She actually is reacting to the behind the scenes stuff and more. Lots coming out this week and the next. ❤

🤣 Very true. But I'm just learning these names and trying to remember them. I'm also a new reactor and still trying to find the balance to avoid problems on my videos. Thanks for making me laugh.

@@SeenEverythingyou’ll learn more quickly for all you could ever imagine and desire by addressing and interacting with the subscribers any way you can!

Very true. Certainly his own perspective on her.

The extended version shows the beginning of Gimli's change of perspective on the Elves. That said, the most of the scenes* that were left out of the theatrical release are more there for character development and world building. If you like the movies, you'll like more of the same. If you don't like the movies, you'll see enough as it is. *A vital scene was clipped from the beginning of _The Return of the King._ I don't recommend missing that one.

@@rachelmap100best explanations for why the extended scenes are beautiful. 1• Frodo/Sam's first meeting with the elves, providing context for Valinor and the elves journey there, as referenced throughout the films and seen at the end of the Return of the King(connects to the passing of the elves in the beginning of their leaving the shire when Frodo and Sam are near the Old Forest by the Shire which leads them to eventually bumping into Merry And Pippin! (An epic scene with Gandalf in Rivendell was also removed as well.) 2. Aragorn singing the Lay of Luthien, providing a parallel between the events of the Beren and Luthien and Aragorn's relationship with Arwen of which every reactor channel I’ve seen makes the connection and it pulls them into a deeper understanding of their relationship every single time. 3. Aragorn kneeling at his mother's grave, giving him some additional backstory for the viewer. 4. Gandalf explaining to Frodo about the corruptive power of the Ring, and how it will strain the Fellowship from the inside, foreshadowing Boromir's downfall. 5. Sam singing a lament for Gandalf, providing more emotional weight to Gandalf's death, referencing the start of the movie and strengthening the connection between him and the Hobbits ( also highlights Tolkien's love of song and poetry in the books). 6. Galadriel giving the gifts to the Fellowship, providing context for their appearance in later films, as well as drawing a parallel between Gimli's gift and the events of the Silmarillion (Fëanor & Galadriel). That’s just the beginning. Including several removed scenes between Aragorn & Galadriel and Aragorn with her husband Celeborn! 7• also the opening explaining Hobbits & their culture to the viewers, so they have a better understanding of these peoples we will be following which also was the direct full chapter called Concerning Hobbits.

@@rachelmap100the beginning and a certain someone that involves a knife and a tower was removed too that made all theatrical reactors wonder where that character went for the entire final movie…. This is why the original must be watched. The extended was meant to be the theatrical haha.

@@SeenEverythingit’s weird because not many dwarves had issues with elves. Only certain clans did to do with a history I’ll give more info about in the second movie. Hopefully you read our other comments here in these threads.

Well, I'm encouraged. I will certainly be making my way around to the rest.

I'm starting to think you're right. Even the rendering is a killer this way. I definitely think I'll do that for the extended editions when I get to them. Thanks for commenting and for watching!

Sadly no. Fully story incoming. Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result. Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons. - Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart. But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again. The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️). Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film. It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!” It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!

🤣 I laughed at the part with my rating when I was editing. I was being very careful, but I think I hit the right balance with it. I certainly know about fans being protective. I am one of them occasionally. Just not with Lord of the Rings before now. But who knows where I'll be when these reactions are done.

And the true edition extended edition boromir hits harder with the character development and foreshadowing.

I think I may have come up with an idea to do both. We'll see if I can get it together. Thanks for commenting and for watching!

Understood. Sauron is trying to reclaim physical form and Gollum gave them the location and name. Frodo couldn't stay there with it anymore. And so the journey begins. I'll be interested to see Gandalf and Bilbo's history with the ring in the Hobbit movies. Thanks for commenting and for watching!