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LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS
Join Frodo, Sam, Gandalf, and a number heroes of Middle Earth on their quest to defeat the evil power of the one ring forever. See my first time reaction to Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers right here.
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00:00 - Introduction
02:54 - Reaction
01:29:08 - Rating & Review
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The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers. Directed by Peter Jackson, Performance by Elijah Wood, Ian McKellen, Liv Tyler, Viggo Mortensen, Sean Astin, and Cate Blanchett, New Line Cinema, 2002.
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@hilarytoffler5636
@hilarytoffler5636 25 дней назад
I was a single mum and read all the books to my boys, a chapter a night,.... There was hellish anticipation between the release of the movies! I loved every minute. Welcome to Middle Earth, you belong.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thank you for the warm welcome. And for sharing that beautiful memory with me. I miss when my kids were young too sometimes. They get so excited about things like that when they're young. Thanks for commenting and for watching.
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 42:40, the Tale of Aragorn and Arwen was placed as an Appendix at the end of the book because Tolkien never could fit their romance into the main story in a way that he was happy with. In that tale, we learn that Aragorn spent his childhood from the age of 2 in Rivendell, where Elrond had come to love him as a son. Arwen had been living with her mother's kin in Lothlorien (she is Galadriel's granddaughter). So the two first met when Aragorn was 20 years old. It's a beautiful story, and I think Peter Jackson & Co.'s version works very well.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
That makes a lot more sense. Explains his connection with the elves and why he speaks elvish. Thank you for explaining that and for watching.
@nancyhayes9958
@nancyhayes9958 24 дня назад
I’m enjoying your reactions. Interesting point-of-view on theatrical versus extended versions. Each version has its pros and cons. There are scenes I wish Jackson had added to the theatrical release, but there are also scenes that aren’t as necessary. (Before anybody fries me, I read the books in the early 70s and waited 30 years to get a “decent” movie. Jackson and his people blew “decent” out of the water.) One thing about Frodo’s unlikely sympathy for Smeagol/Gollum: Frodo is a decent person, but he is also feeling the effects of the ring. He needs to believe Smeagol can be saved because Frodo is terrified that he, himself, will fall. As for some of the tech, they had to create some of the tech, including advances in motion capture. Andy Serkis played Gollum with a mocap suit on. I still think he deserved a special category Oscar for best secondary character. Even after 20+ years, LOTR has some of the best CGI I’ve ever seen.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
First, thank you so much. Second, I definitely agree on the interpretation of Frodo. I got that too. He has to believe Smeagol is saveable, so he doesn't feel hopeless himself. Very well-played by Mr. Wood. Andy Serkis is just an international treasure. In LOTR and out. Thank you for commenting and watching.
@BobBlumenfeld
@BobBlumenfeld 25 дней назад
Frodo left before Boromir died defending Merry and Pippin.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thank you. I had forgotten.
@user-yu9uw8wo9o
@user-yu9uw8wo9o 24 дня назад
Bernard Hill, who played Captain Smith in Titanic and King Théoden in Lord of the Rings sadly died on May 2024. He was 79
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Yeah. I just learned that. He was great. Quite a life I'm sure.
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 1:17:00, when Tolkien was a teen-ager, he attended a performance of Shakespeare's play "MacBeth," where Birnham Wood turned out to be a bunch of soldiers with tree branches stuck in their helmets. In disgust, he vowed to one day actually bring Birnham Wood to Dunsinane, and this is the result.
@nancyhayes9958
@nancyhayes9958 24 дня назад
We read MacBeth when I was a senior in high school, years after I read LOTR, and I felt so cheated over the moving woods=spears nonsense.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
Art finds all kinds of unique inspirations.
@BobBlumenfeld
@BobBlumenfeld 25 дней назад
The three movies came out exactly one year apart, but they were all filmed simultaneously in New Zealand. The filming took about a year and a half.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Second one to hit me with this. Amazing. The really believed in it. Thanks for commenting and watching!
@matthewzeller5026
@matthewzeller5026 17 дней назад
It's absolutely insane they were able to film this in a year and a half and be one of the greatest masterpieces of all time especially considering the length of it.
@user-cv4sx8zc2y
@user-cv4sx8zc2y 25 дней назад
They filmed all at the same time. It took 18 months. They released them 1 year apart. Christmas 2001,2002,2003
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Wow! What an undertaking. The studio must have really believed in bringing this story to the screen to invest THAT MUCH up front without any chance to measure how successful they'd be. Thanks for educating me on this and for watching.
@BobBlumenfeld
@BobBlumenfeld 25 дней назад
Legolas is the son of Thranduil, king of the Woodland Realm north of Rivendell. Arwen is the daughter of Elrond and Celebrian, who happens to have been Galadriel's daughter. That makes Arwen Galadriel's granddaughter. Different "tribes" of elves, if you will, but all elves. And believe it or not, Aragorn is distantly related to Arwen, in fact, they're first cousins many lives of men removed from each other (up or down a genealogy tree). Elrond's father was a mortal and his mother an elf. He and his twin brother Elros were given the choice of living as an elf or as a mortal. Elrond chose the elf-path, but Elros chose the mortal path. Aragorn is descended from him. Arwen is actually some two thousand years old.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
I am always astounding by the crazy depth and detail of these worlds and characters. Thanks for explaining that and for watching!
@rikk319
@rikk319 24 дня назад
Actually Elrond's parents were both half-elves. By the time Elrond and his brother Elros were adults and Morgoth had been defeated, the Valar set before them the choice to be fully human or fully elf. Elros chose humanity; Elrond chose elves. However, Elrond's children also got the choice, too (but not Elros' children, for some reason). This is why Arwen (and her brothers Elladan and Elrohir, too) can choose to have the elf afterlife or the human afterlife. Arwen chooses the human afterlife so she can spend it with Aragorn. She only willingly gives up her immortality after Aragorn dies.
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 8:30, the book works a bit differently, but in it Frodo warns Gollum, "You revealed yourself to me just now, foolishly. 'Give it back to Smeagol' you said. Do not say that again! Do not let that thought grow in you! You will never get it back. But the desire of it may betray you to a bitter end. You will never get it back. In the last need, Smeagol, I should put on the Precious, and the Precious mastered you long ago. If I, wearing it, were to command you, you would obey, even if it were to leap from a precipice or to cast yourself into the fire. And such would be my command. So have a care, Smeagol!"
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thank you for explaining that and for watching!
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 56:50, in the book Faramir describes Boromir's rank: "Know, little strangers, that Boromir son of Denethor was High Warden of the White Tower and our Captain-General: sorely do we miss him."
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Perfect thank you for filling that in for me.
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 50:00, Saruman was corrupted by his Palantir, his seeing stone. In the book, we don't see the Palantir at all until after this battle, and Gandalf works out what must have happened: "Further and further abroad he gazed, until he cast his gaze upon Barad-dur. Then he was caught!...Easy it is now to guess how quickly the roving eye of Saruman was trapped and held, and how ever since he has been persuaded from afar, and daunted when persuasion would not serve. The biter bit, the hawk under the eagle's foot, the spider in a steel web!"
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
That makes a lot more sense.
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 13 дней назад
@@SeenEverything Saruman never served Sauron nor bent to him at all in the books. The Gandalf locked in the Tower bit is explained ONLY in the Unfinished Tales Book: In [manuscript-C) The Black Riders arrived at the Gate of Isengard while Gandalf was still a prisoner in the tower. In this account, Saruman, in fear & despair, & perceiving the full horror of service to Mordor, resolved suddenly to yield to Gandalf, & to beg for his pardon & help. Temporizing at the Gate, he admitted that he had Gandalf within, & said that he would go & try to discover what he knew; if that were unavailing, he would deliver Gandalf up to them. Then Saruman hastened to the summit of Orthanc - & found Gandalf gone. Away south against the setting moon he saw a great Eagle flying towards Edoras. See, the thing is he was always master of studying the enemy & even being able to think like they do to always know exactly the best ways to handle ever situation and so on, but the thing is he didn't just become the enemy, he at this time in a sense for once actually grew afraid of him, probably Sauron did what Sauron did with Finrod Felagund in the duel of visions, (Galadriel’s elder brother who by the way was the most important in the Legendarium & is the main reason the third age even exists) which basically widdled Saruman with various visions of the past and future until it wore him down, but Saruman(Curumo) was the mostly already becoming weary due to what was called The Long Defeat, magic bleeding out from the lands of middle earth and subsequently certain things become less and less possible and the elves begin to go west. Even the ones who never wished to leave middle earth and many of which were born here by the thousands. So him also being a student and helper of Aulë of the Valar he was going to fight fire with fire and make a bid for the ring just so Sauron could never regain full power and if Saruman found a way to release himself from his power restrictions even by any small margin or worked with Eru in some way it might have worked out in the end if things went differently enough to where such action from him would be needed. Ontop of that he was growing ever jealous of Gandalf for he received the Varya from Círdan and prior to that was chosen by the other Valar, Nienna’s chosen champion to go to middle earth. But Gandalf(Olórin back then) refused over and over and exclaimed his fear of Sauron(Mairon), varya I feel would have kindle the heart of Saruman to stay strong as he had been fighting the evils of the world for a very long time since he had been sent to Middle Earth. And for the is reason Saruman wished to hold the ring at hostage. Keep Sauron from taking back his full strength and basically use it to stave off The Long Defeat. Saruman is very complex. The Hobbit movies actually shows how he was even 60 years ago during Bilbo’s story. He was one of the main forces thwarting Sauron for over 2000 years. The Númenoreans: the high men of the west; gifted Saruman with Orthanc which was of their making. Now known as Isengard. - saruman is actually trying to doublecross sauron. He wants the ring for himself. He thinks he can control it. The little orcs around saruman are from mordor - sauron's orcs sent to help saruman but also to spy on him. The big fighting orcs - the uruk hai - are loyal only to saruman. Orcs are like that. But its why saruman's orders are a bit vague - to avoid sauron's orcs knowing what saruman is doing. The movies dont make this bit of the story very clear. But notice that, while saruman knows where the fellowship is he never lets Sauron Know.
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 13 дней назад
@@SeenEverything Aragorn looks into the palantir much earlier in the books. But it comes to the same effect. IF they had the ring and intended to use it, they would challenge sauron, thinking themselves invincible. Aragorn marches to the black gate because this is exactly how the new king with the ring of power would act in saurons mind. He will not suspect they have any intention to destroy it. However, Aragorn does NOT have the ring, so it is an impossible mission. The whole march to the black gate is the realization that they cannot possibly survive but it gives Frodo a small chance. Aragorn even lets some men who lose heart remain behind as a rear guard because they all know they are going to be surrounded with no chance of winning. So looking forward to watching the end with you! Palantir are just as perilous as Galadriels mirror. Cannot be harnessed or touched by just anyone. All 7 palantiri were created by Fëanor and perhaps also his 2 eldest of seven sons at the time of their creation. They are very holy artifacts that mislead everyone. But if you’re like mighty denethor who was able to interpret anything shown to him and resist Sauron and interpret everything shown to Gondor’s advantage for decades as well as misleading Sauron to think pippin had the ring and forced Sauron to launch an attack way too soon and basically made himself vulnerable in several ways etc etc. Aragorn looks into the palantir much earlier in the books. But it comes to the same effect. IF they had the ring and intended to use it, they would challenge sauron, thinking themselves invincible. Aragorn marches to the black gate because this is exactly how the new king with the ring of power would act in saurons mind. He will not suspect they have any intention to destroy it. However, Aragorn does NOT have the ring, so it is an impossible mission. The whole march to the black gate is the realization that they cannot possibly survive but it gives Frodo a small chance. Aragorn even lets some men who lose heart remain behind as a rear guard because they all know they are going to be surrounded with no chance of winning. So looking forward to watching the end with you!
@MichaelHattem
@MichaelHattem 15 дней назад
The flag flying away and landing on the ground was meant to symbolize the sad state and decline of Rohan from its former glory.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 15 дней назад
That makes sense. Thank you for filling in that detail.
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 25:00, Tolkien provides a detailed chronology of events as an Appendix following ROTK. In it we learn that Gandalf the Grey died in his fight with the Balrog, and his dead body lay on top of Celebdil from January 25 to February 14, when he was resurrected as Gandalf the White.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
I see. The acid trip sequence was ACTUAL resurrection. Makes sense. Also makes sense that he would act as he did when being reunited with his friends. Echoes from another life in a way. Thank you for explaining that and for watching.
@littleogeechee223
@littleogeechee223 24 дня назад
Theoden is uncle to Eomer and Eowyn. Theoden’s son was Theodred.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thank you. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for commenting and watching!
@Ajonr
@Ajonr 25 дней назад
Rohan - the flag falling off the roof was accidental, but for symbolism tough to beat, so they kept that in the final cut (or so the rumor goes).
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Wow. Just one of those perfect tonal things captured on a film set.
@jjjones8609
@jjjones8609 24 дня назад
Return of the king won best picture at the Oscar’s-something fantasy rarely gets; let alone nominated.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
It must be very good. I'm looking forward to it.
@lossantosy2
@lossantosy2 24 дня назад
"They're taking the hobbits to Isengard" best music meme ever done
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
🤣 Thanks for that.
@janerobinson4693
@janerobinson4693 25 дней назад
The pre production took place approximately 3 years before filming started. Filmed all 3 at once over a little over a year
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Three years?! Wow! I believe it, but that's crazy. Thanks for commenting and watching!
@nemesis4852
@nemesis4852 24 дня назад
Good catch most people miss. Bernard Hill as Théoden King of Rohan, played Edward Smith as the Captain of Titanic in that movie.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
I knew I recognized him from somewhere. Took me a minute though.
@Kimmerkel-k
@Kimmerkel-k 24 дня назад
To see “Grima get his…..” - extended addition of ROTK.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Oh, I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for commenting and watching!
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 15 дней назад
Epic Lembas history for you - written by elven LoreMaster named Pengolodh. Lembas was made first by the Vala named Yavanna from special corn that grew in Aman, and Oromë gave it to the Elves for the purpose of the Great Journey. For this reason, it was an Elven custom that only women should make lembas; they were called Yavannildi who knew the secret of its recipe from Oromë. Also, the custom mandated that only an Elven Queen should keep and distribute the lembas; for this reason she was called also massánië or besain. - Only on rare occasions was it given to non-Elves, because it was believed that mortals who ate it would become weary of their mortality and would desire to live among the Elves. The corn was an enduring plant that needed but a little sunlight to ripen and could be sown at any season and then sprouted and grew swiftly. Yet it was harmed by north winds, while Morgoth dwelt there. The Eldar grew it in guarded lands and sunlit glades. The ears were harvested without scythe or sickle but each one was gathered by hand, and the white stalks were drawn from the earth and used to weave baskets in which the grain was stored. Melian, as the queen of Doriath, was one who held the recipe from Yavanna. By giving lembas to Beleg for Túrin, Melian showed him great favour because it had never before been given to Men and seldom was again. Later it was passed to Galadriel and other Elves. When ships had been sent forth, at the behest of Turgon, towards the West, its mariners carried a sealed wallet with waybread for their voyage. Voronwë, after surviving the wreck, shared it with Tuor throughout their journey to Gondolin. Dúnedain, inspired by the elves, made a similar kind of waybread (although it was not true lembas), that they carried on long journeys. So each of Isildur's soldiers on their way north from the War of the Last Alliance "carried in a sealed wallet on his belt a small phial of cordial and wafers of a waybread that would sustain life in him for many days". The Galadhrim had a large store of lembas in Lothlórien. Galadriel gave some of it to the Fellowship of the Ring upon their departure. Frodo Baggins and Samwise Gamgee subsisted on it through the majority of their journey from there into Mordor. The tradition of farming the Western Corn and the making of waybread was lost for ever in Middle-earth after the departure of Galadriel and the death of Arwen. One of the only places left where this untouched holy wheat can be grown is the groves within Lothlórien.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 12 дней назад
I see. Hence the fates of Frodo, Bilbo, and eventually Sam.
@mrwidget42
@mrwidget42 24 дня назад
Legolas Greenleaf is the son of Thranduil king of the Woodland Realm in the Northern extent of Mirkwood, while Arwen is the daughter of Elrond Halfelven of Imladris, and also the granddaughter of Galadriel of Lothlorien. These are basically two completely divergent "tribes" of elves in Middle Earth. It is interesting to note that Arwen is related by blood to Luthien of the song that Aragorn sings to himself as Frodo and co. traverse the Midgewood Marshes in the early stages of Fellowship. In that story Luthien also falls in love to a mortal man Beren in like to that of Arwen falling in love with a mortal man Aragorn.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
I feel that you have a depth of knowledge here that I never will. But I appreciate you sharing it and helping me understand this a little better. Thanks for watching.
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 23:15, the Black Rider's new mount is called a "fell beast," although it's more a description than a name. LOTR doesn't have any dragons, although if you read The Hobbit or watch the Hobbit movies, you'll encounter Smaug, a truly terrifying dragon.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Well you've taught me something there. I knew that one of the titles of the Hobbit movies was The Desolation of Smaug, but I didn't know why. Makes more sense now. Thank you for explaining and for watching.
@larrybell726
@larrybell726 25 дней назад
Jackson and the writers did not add scenes to the extended cut, they removed scenes from the theatrical cut. There were several times you had a question about some point in the story that had actually been covered in the directors cut. just saying… 😉
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thank you for explaining that. I figured that was the case. I never imagined they added scenes. Longer cuts of movies are almost always composed of scenes that were cut from the theatrical releases. I remember hearing that there's a 3+ hour cut of Batman Forever out there somewhere. I generally tend to start with what everyone saw. Then I explore the filmaker's more unrestrained vision if it is available. That's what I intend to do here too. Thank you for commenting and watching.
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 13 дней назад
@@SeenEverything I’ll definitely be here to deepen your experience of the “extended editions”. Remember. To get the fully subtitled versions that actually show the elvish language excerpt above the English.
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 14:27 you say, "That's a different design." Very perceptive--in the book the Orcs belong to three different breeds: the small ones who have come from Moria to avenge their folk ("Why can't we have some meat?"), the middle-sized ones who want to take the Hobbits to Mordor ("Ooh, they look tasty!"), and the big ones, who are Saruman's Uruk-hai and are taking the Hobbits to Isengard ("We will deliver them!"). Each race has its own mutually-unintelligible language, so for communication they use the Common Speech or Westron, in a debased form. The conflicts among the three groups are sort of glossed over in the movie, but they are important in the book's version of the story. The folks at Weta Workshop got the memo, though, and produced three different Orc designs.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thank you for breaking that down for me. Makes a lot more sense. The creature effects and make-up people did an amazing job. They feel very real, as opposed to just feeling like people in rubber prosthetics.
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 26:00, LOTR the book begins very slowly, but by this point in the tale, events are moving right along--if anything, the book now moves even faster (in some places) than the movie.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
It is certainly interesting how the pacing changes from book to movie in an adaptation. Thank you for commenting and watching!
@johntepu
@johntepu 15 дней назад
I myself am proud of my eldest brothers eldest son who was fortunate to have worked in make up and prosthetics. He also worked on the Hobbit and Rings of Power. 6:30 the logistics involved to adapt this epic story onto the big screen is just as epic, Return of the King winning 11 Oscars. Most (if not all) NZers are very proud of what Peter Jackson has achieved. Because there are actual locations, we (NZers) all know someone who worked on or assisted towards this project. Hobbiton is still the number one tourist attraction in New Zealand.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 14 дней назад
That is amazing! I can certainly see how it would be a real point of national pride that New Zealand was the backdrop to bring such a massive story to life. The production of the movies itself sounds like it was a heroic feat in and of itself. And the residual tourism that New Zealand has gotten out of the deal just feels like well-earned dividends on that investment.
@SixFour0391
@SixFour0391 23 дня назад
Loved your intro! You showed understanding and also presented a logical argument for your decisions and a willingness to experience the art in the order that the original fans were forced to. You showed intestinal fortitude and demonstrated a plan. Really really enjoyed all that.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
Thank you. Did my best. People have some strong feelings. And I know it's because they love this franchise and they strongly believe that the extended editions are the best version of these movies. And I also may completely agree once I've seen them. All the more reason to have this experience now, while I can. Thanks for the kind words and for watching.
@SixFour0391
@SixFour0391 22 дня назад
@@SeenEverything I'm one of those that truly believe that the extended editions are the better versions, but I subscribed and will continue to watch, purely because of the way you handled yourself in the intro...and your dry humor...that kills me!! HAHAHA
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 22 дня назад
@@SixFour0391 Well, first of all, thank you. Secondly, by the time I get through the extended editions I may very well agree. Only one way to find out. Thanks for watching.
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 15 дней назад
Let’s dive into Elrond & his daughter Arwen (& Aragorn by extension), therefore we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, they both were half-elven brothers who can choose to be mortal or immortal because of their parents; (Eärendil & Elwing), both “half elven” made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help against Morgoth(who was making everything worse than a living hellscape for 100s of generations) which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age. Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand. After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died. But they didnt die. Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor. ✨✨✨✨✨ He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children. Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was 500 years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤ Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there! When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West. ✨✨✨✨✨ Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter! They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh • By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old & nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years(solar years for them). ❤️❤️❤️❤️ But if you want a more true age you must realize that he may be 8000 but in human years after the sun and moon were created from the flower from of the two trees of Valinor as well as one fruit from the other of the two trees; they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does. Essentially. Which is why they are so in synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them ! Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda) and speaking of age, Legolas is also 3000+years old by the time he becomes a member of The Fellowship Of The Ring! If you look back on the original trilogy movies: The fellowship had a 3000year old Elven PRINCE in their party. And a clandestine angelic being who was Gandalf originally known Olòrin to those such as Galadriel who knew him when she lived in Valinor, Elrond also knew would be one of the only others who’d know this save Círdan The Shipwright(one of the surviving eldest Elf in the world.). ❤️❤️❤️❤️ But even he was a few generations down from the original elvish peoples to awake to the stars) & kin to Thingol who also is a semi distant cousin to Legolas as Legolas’ grandfather was the close cousin to Thingol(same with Galadriel’s Husband Celeborn through his father, their capital within Lothlòrien was named after his father(Caras Galadhon) Galadhon being the name indicating that which belongs to the father. And a 87 year old Númenorean man named Aragorn!, a 335 year old Dwarven Prince named Gimli. And as a microcosm they resembled the coalition of all the races of middle earth uniting under one banner which is another reason it sort of metaphysically set into motion the world uniting at the macrocosm ! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Galadriel's Phial (gift to Frodo) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Fëanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. (And it’s same power and light was drawn into it from the very firmament where it now stands amongst the stars as Eärendil himself (Elrond’s father stands watch over The Doors Of Night where Melkor still is held until fate holds him no longer.) Everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Melkor(Morgoth); the first Dark Lord. Wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed the Silmarils were the only light from them left and he stole them as you may remember, they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first one! Who was Elrond’s father.) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Eärendil as its guardian. 💕💕💕💕 The fountain of Galadriel's Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it. 💕💕💕💕 The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf half human father, that father was the son of the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin book!❤❤❤❤ Aragorn is a CLOSE descendant of a direct bloodline to Elros(Elrond’s Twin Brother) The title of half elven (Peredhel) was due to the combined history of Beren&Lúthien, his mother Elwing was the granddaughter of Lùthien! Eärendil was the husband of Elwing. The true half elf; son of the best elvish women ever who rescued hundreds from the highest of elvish kingdoms(Gondolin); her name is Idril & one of the best most powerful men around named Tuor. Who later on when they went to Valinor together through their own way lead to him choosing to be counted as One Of The Eldar for Idril. Eärendil did the same for Elwing. ❤
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 12 дней назад
Again, that was the SHORT version? 🤣 I feel like I should be using a library card for all this reading.
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 15 дней назад
The sword Gandalf wielded caused the Balrog’s primordial sword to burst into a rain of molten lava in an almost majestic way. It too belong to high elven king Turgon of the great hidden realm of Gondolin, surrounded by tallest mountains. Named Glamdring; meaning “Foe Hammer”. Gandalf broke the balrog’s unholy weapon. Epic right? His original staff broke when he let some of his true powers show to grant a miracle from his own life force. This is the same thing for how the elves do “magic” Galadriel herself tells Frodo and Sam that things elves do may seem like magic but they don’t really use such a word since they are one with the world, symbiotic with it if the world perished so would they. Just so you know; the balrog and Gandalf fought for 10 days straight. Then eldrich terrors(nameless things) assailed them both and they begrudgingly fought them off together and Gandalf resumed his chase of the balrog up the endless stairs of Dúrin’s Tower where they fought up at the top of ZirakZigil Gandalf was given the ring of fire (Narya) by one of the oldest remaining elves from the first clans to wake beneath the stars before the sun and moon ever existed; at the Cuiviènen river named Círdan. Its best attribute was it raises the spirits of those who wear it. Bolstering internal strength and so forth. He knew it would aid Gandalf in his quest from the Valar and Eru Îlluvatar (the one AllFather) themselves to bolster the spirits of the free peoples of middle earth and to sow seeds of hope within the hearts of Men, Elves and Dwarves alike.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 12 дней назад
10 days straight? Crazy.
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 12 дней назад
@@SeenEverything yes. You’ll love to react to the Phil dragash audiobook. It’s epic.
@Widdermaker
@Widdermaker 24 дня назад
The time between Bilbo’s birthday party until Frodo leaves Bag End is about 17 years in the book. But the time from when Frodo & Sam leave Bag End until the conclusion of the events involving the Ring is about 6-7 months in the book. FYI…
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
Crazy. They basically eliminated that 17 years in the movie.
@Widdermaker
@Widdermaker 22 дня назад
@@SeenEverything Also, you’ve heard of the new LOTR movie, “The Hunt for Gollum” that Andy Serkis will direct (he played Gollum in LOTR) and Peter Jackson will produce (to be released in 2026)? The hunt occurred during that 17 year period. As recounted by Gandalf at the Council of Elrond (in the book).
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 22 дня назад
@@Widdermaker Not at all. Hadn't heard anything about it. The most recent LOTR thing I had heard about was The Rings of Power. But I didn't know about anything upcoming. Thanks for letting me know.
@Widdermaker
@Widdermaker 24 дня назад
They filmed them all at the same time, back-to-back-to-back over about a year and a half. It’s really one long movie. The continuity is unmatched. It will probably never happen again.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
These kind of incredible theatrical feats are rarely replicated. Though studio heads certainly try and usually fail. Thanks for watching!
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 15 дней назад
The part about the dead marshes includes Legolas’ Father; Thranduil, & grandfather Oropher, were to join the Last Alliance in from a different angle to achieve a certain war tactic but Oropher and others got waylayed by orcs & many corrupted men which lead to eventually Oropher dying there, this loss effected Legolas’s father so very deeply forevermore. The bond between he and his son is the same bond Thranduil has with Legolas. And the braid he wears is to honour his grandfather. I believe after his death braids became less common. A sort of respect thing I believe. ❤️❤️❤️ Both his father and Grandfather lived in Doriath(Elu Thingol’s domain[Elwë], which was heartbea of middle earth; Aside from Gondolin which held this mantle until it’s secret location was given up by a tortured elf who was the son of a very important mother who was the sister of the high king Turgon). All on a landmass called Beleriand that sunk under the sea after a set of disastrous events that lead to many greater outcomes much later on in the legendarium. ✨✨✨ This here is a whole set of stories of which also includes a quite a bit of Galadriel too but moreso other characters during this era. Of Beren And Lùthien comes to mind and Children Of Hurin!! You’ll fall in love even more after the third movie. Then you can enter into the lore videos like Moviejoob and OmarioRPG have done reaction videos too. Amazing stuff. One thing to add though is this scene resembles a lot from the other battle Tolkien was involved in called The Battle Of Somme. Look into it and tell me your thoughts. I’ll add something here though: that clan of elves really didn’t like being under the command of anyone else so they went ahead without the order and let’s just say it didn’t end well. That and they weren’t fond of the Ñoldor… huge history there as to why that is. That and the Sindar subgroup of these clans were a tiny bit more isolationist. But there are many amazing Sindar in the legendarium too Elrond and his two sons and daughter are connected to all of the main clans of men and elves through the union of his half elf father and full elf(quarter goddess) mother. Who essentially played a huge role in saving the world from the original dark lord Morgoth. Gained the Favour Of Valinor. Which subsequently lead to Numenor being a gift from the sea to the men who helped. Becoming blessed. Their land existing within the light of Valinor as it was situated closely to The Undying Lands. (The same ancestry Aragorn has that Èowyn spoke of while they were travelling to Helm’s Deep! (Elrond’s Twin Brother became the first king of Númenor. His name becoming Tar-Minyatur, and those faithful to Eru, the elves and the natural world all of this line carried Tar before their name! Ar for Aragorn is the word meaning Noble in his tongue called Adúnaic. That too is a fleshed out language Tolkien created too. Elvish languages also were placed into the official list of world languages too!
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 14 дней назад
Have you read everything connected to Lord of the Rings at this point? You seem to have an encyclopedic knowledge.
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 14 дней назад
@@SeenEverything It extends farther than that my friend. You’ll have endless content to react to via the behind the scenes stuff on Pajasek99 playlist and the many awesome lore videos and a few pretty lore friendly fan films! Heck. Even hunt for Gollum is coming out in 2026 and War Of The Rohirim is coming out sooner than that. End of this year.
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 14 дней назад
(all 25 book). The Hobbit(There & Back Again) [1937] LOTR: Fellowship( 1954) Two Towers (1954) Return of the King (1955) The Silmarillion (1977) Unfinished Tales (1980),Children of Húrin (2007) Beren and Lúthien (2017) The Fall of Gondolin (2018) The History of Middle-earth (12 volumes, published between 1983-1996): - The Book of Lost Tales, Part One (1983) - The Book of Lost Tales, Part Two (1984) - The Lays of Beleriand (1985) - The Shaping of Middle-earth (1986) - The Lost Road and Other Writings (1987) - The Return of the Shadow (1988) - The Treason of Isengard (1989) - The War of the Ring (1990) - Sauron Defeated (1992) - Morgoth's Ring (1993) - The War of the Jewels (1994) - The Peoples of Middle-earth (1996) I apologize for the confusion. "Laws and Customs of the Eldar" was actually first published as a part of "Morgoth's Ring" in the year 1993. However, it was later re-published as a separate book with the same title in 2018, edited by Christopher Tolkien. I missed “The Lay of Leithien" which is an ancient style long narrative poem by J.R.R. Tolkien, which tells the story of Beren and Lúthien, one of the great love stories of Middle-earth. 400+ lines or so. Other stories were included in it too which helps us glean so much more information on what else was happening in that era in a more satisfying way. The poem was initially written in the 1920s and 1930s, and was later revised and expanded by Tolkien over the years. It was eventually published posthumously in the book "The Lays of Beleriand" as part of "The History of Middle-earth" series in 1985. @@SeenEverything
@bernice6867
@bernice6867 24 дня назад
It's the original map drawn by Tolkien. It's usually glued to the back cover of every book.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
That's awesome! Had no idea. Thanks for explaining it and for watching.
@bernice6867
@bernice6867 23 дня назад
@@SeenEverything I looked at it again, it is not 100% the original. And they only named the most important landmarks. But since I have several editions ( like many fans)I have several of these maps, and without them you are lost when you read the book.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
@@bernice6867 It's amazing to think that even back then they created a whole world with its own defined geography.
@bernice6867
@bernice6867 22 дня назад
@@SeenEverything You can critizise a lot abour Tolkien's writing but he is the emperor of world building. He created the lsnguages first and then the people and places where they are spoken. Of course he spent his whole life building this world.
@andeeleininger5968
@andeeleininger5968 25 дней назад
I’m glad you’re going to eventually watch the extended editions. If the extended editions had been available rather than the theatrical versions, I would have chosen the extended editions. Hands-down. That said, I’m glad you’re going to watch the extended versions someday.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Me too. I'm looking forward to it. I hope you'll come back when I put up those videos. Thanks for commenting and watching!
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 15 дней назад
Gandalf (Olórin) is the same species of being as the Balrogs/Sauron before twisted by Melkor[Morgoth]. They are all Maiar (primordial spirits) created by Eru’s Thought (extensions of Eru Îlluvatar himself whilst they had their own free will & individuality. He essentially got the chance to experience and study other parts of himself through this.) among the other Ainur before the Years of the Lamps roughly 9,000+ years before arriving in Middle-earth; In Valinor he was known as Olórin.(Remember though he formally existed before the world existed and his form becoming Gandalf hadn’t happened yet. He was sent to Middle-earth in human form around the year 1000 of the Third Age. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ So his many forms had different ages in length of existing. He’s very cool right! Could he get any cooler!? 😎❤️ Another thing is when he arrived in middle earth he was disguised as an elf & lived among them whilst they were unknowing & he became to be known as Mithrandir to the Quendi/Eldar❤️ He could have very well dwelled with the elves far earlier just do to his curiosity & simple desire to explore and be around the firstborn (TheElves) Gandalf The Grey/White Estimated at 15,000 years old (following his quote "300 lives of men, I have walked this earth"), It says that Gandalf was the wisest of the Maiar besides Melian herself. There were a lot of Maiar that were considered really great and powerful. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ However, there is a much longer answer. Like Sauron(former name is Mairon) & the other Istari (the order sent around the same time & of which he was appointed leader but he being who he is & a student of the Vala by the name Nienna & Lorien(Irmo). Gandalf was one of the Maiar, an angelic spirit created by Eru at the beginning of time and therefor one of the many Ainur who sang the world into being & Eru just helped their creation take shape and basically stated “behold YOUR creation” & basically what happens in that world goes sort of preordained as by that song eons ago so really only the ages after Dagor Dagorath will truly be an age that isn’t full of strife; sadness; and longing. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Also. These lamps are what were before even the two trees. These were Giant mountains but also like light houses but housing a great power but it may have also been where two special Maia lived that helped in the creation in the sun and moon after Melkor With eldrich terror Ungoliant killed the trees, so yea “Arien” is the Maia who basically exists with the sun and her brother and or lover of sorts is the one who wanders with and guides the moon. Of which that other Maia was “Tillion” Galadriel herself not only witnessed this but as a student of Aulë and the other Valar she obviously had involvement in helping create the hallowed objects that housed the final flower of the silver tree Telperion that was the father of the moon and the mother of the sun was Laurëlin the golden tree and prior to the sun and moon they too used to wax and wane!
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 12 дней назад
Wait. There is a LONGER answer? You've written thousands of words in my comments, Makkaru. And there is a LONGER answer? 🤣
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 12 дней назад
@@SeenEverything yes. Longer answers. And many of them are explored in very interesting videos done by people like GirlNextGondor and Tolkien Untangled and The Red Book.
@Mini_Hayley
@Mini_Hayley 24 дня назад
Saruman didn’t “fall” he thought he could play the double agent. He thought he could pretend to be Sauron’s ally, get the ring, destroy it, and return to Valinor as a hero. But instead he got played by Sauron.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
I see. So he fell victim to Sauron in his own way. Got it. Thanks for explaining and for watching.
@mgentles3
@mgentles3 21 день назад
Saruman wanted to shape the world anew with the ring. He thought (as do all governments) that he knew better how the people should live than they themselves. He thought he could bring order to the world by his wisdom. He gives quite a speech about it in the book. 'The Wise' seldom are. And they never admit, probably even to themselves, that the desire to bring order is actually a lust for control.
@Dreams4U2
@Dreams4U2 24 дня назад
No, you're wrong. The reason a majority of us insist on you seeing the extended versions is because we've also read the books and know, after seeing the theatrical release of the films, that the extended versions offer a better understanding of the filmed material. Just be honest about not wanting to sit through the longer extended versions of the film. It's okay. 🙂
@nyxbellatrix
@nyxbellatrix 24 дня назад
True, this. There are the casual watchers and then there are those of us who can't imagine being a casual watcher......but we know it's a COMMITMENT
@frufruJ
@frufruJ 24 дня назад
I'm a bit torn on the theatrical/extended debate. I've seen reactors who clearly enjoyed the theatrical better (I know one of them has ADHD), and I've seen reactors watching the theatrical asking questions that would have been answered in the extended. Myself, I had read the books before seeing them in the cinema back in 2001-3, so I can't really fully imagine watching it without any knowledge. However, I do believe that you're being a bit rude there. He did explain his motive for watching the theatrical, and he did say that he would watch the extended later - the same way we did back in the early 00's. Jackson also considers the theatrical to be the ultimate cut, and the extended to be sort of a bonus for the fans.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
I certainly would be if that were true. Why does everything go to that? Is that really the big barrier for other people? Just curious. Anyway, if the length was the problem, I wouldn't be intending to watch and shoot videos on the extended editions too. You did make me think a question though. Do you know if fans of the books were disappointed seeing the theatrical versions before the extended editions were released? Honestly curious.
@chad_stewart
@chad_stewart 23 дня назад
These extended addition bullies are annoying. I've read LOTR 10 times or more and I don't think the extended additions are necessarily better.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
@@frufruJ Exactly my point. Just tying to have a complete experience. Thanks for the back up and for watching. 🙂
@BuzzcraftWoW
@BuzzcraftWoW 23 дня назад
I want to say that i agree with you, when it comes to watching the movie for the first time, that the theatrical version is always the way to go. People often forget, that the reason why they fell in love with the cinematic adaption of Lotr back in the early 2000s in the first place, was because they saw the theatrical version duh. I think the pacing is perfect, every scene, every dialog fits perfect. In the extended version the pacing is slightly off, and it effects the next scene and the next scene and so on. Light Spoiler: (doesnt spoil story/ only extended version related) Certain scenes with a certain gondorian man and a certain shieldmaiden seem unecessary and out of place in the extended edition of the 3rd movie. Love the reaction!!!
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
Thank you very much for the support. Yeah, I never imagined that it would be such a controversial topic. But I'd also never stepped into the fandom of Lord of the Rings before. Makes me wonder if there are other franchises that have a similar dynamic around what their best editions are. But yes, you have my the point exactly. This way I can experience it in the same order those did who saw it when it was first released. Once I've watched the extended editions, any chance for that would be gone. I did also make the point to someone that, like it or not, the theatrical releases were what introduced a lot of fans to LOTR in the first place. No problem with people feeling differently and expressing it. But some were a little ... lets say aggressive in their position. 🤣 Thanks for watching!
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 36:05, I think Eowyn has discovered here for the first time in her life that someone is taking her seriously.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
🤔 Very possibly. I hadn't considered that. Thank you for point it out and for watching.
@dejavu2030
@dejavu2030 25 дней назад
Great reaction! So excited for you to see the third one. Yes each movie is better than the previous, and then each extended version is also increasingly better, which is hard to imagine, but they are and that's why these movies have stood the test of time. The symbolisms, and heroic characters and their attributes and how they all grow together is relatable to anyone who has a good heart and cares for good to win over evil.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thanks so much. I'm glad you're enjoying them. I've really been enjoying the movies. A lot to absorb for someone who knows nothing about that world. But still, really good movies. I can tell why so many people love them. Thanks for commenting and watching!
@dejavu2030
@dejavu2030 23 дня назад
@@SeenEverything yeah we support u!
@lenfoster1622
@lenfoster1622 21 день назад
Bernard Hill played Theoden, who passed away two weeks ago R. I . P. now in the halls of his ancestors.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 21 день назад
Yes, I heard that. He was a great peformer.
@Tms559
@Tms559 24 дня назад
The extended versions best reflect my love of and the meaning the books held for me before the movies came out. They Peter Jackson’s take on the Tolkiens work captures the soul of the books, in many ways putting on film what I imagined middle earth to look and feel like. I don’t know what its like to only see this work as a “movie” and that is why I would recommend reacting to the extended versions. Enjoy watching theatrical, extended, listening to the audio version, reading the books and viewing behind the scenes for the full experience! 😂 For a good movie experience I suggest, sitting back and let the story unfold. All needed to get the point of the story is there.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
Oh, I understand that feeling. Adaptations are tricky. You're usually glad they're making one, but it can also end up vastly cut down or completely butchered. I can feel the love for the LOTR Extended Editions in part for this reason. There are some stories for me that my first thought of them will always be the original text. It's also another thing that's been hard adjusting to doing reactions. I normally watch movies silently. Just taking it all in. Can't do that on reaction videos. You have to react and comment and have things to break up the video or you'll never be able to post it. I'll probably watch these again at some point on my own. Thank you for sharing a brief glimpse into your love of these stories. Sounds like it's gone on for a long time and been wonderful. Thanks for watching!
@mgentles3
@mgentles3 22 дня назад
Aragorn grew up in Rivendell. The scene where Aragorn tries to return the necklace always makes me amazed at the attention to detail in these films. If you think back to the look on Arwen's face as the Fellowship left Rivendell, knowing now that this conversation had already taken place, you'll see what I mean. Legolas comes from Mirkwood (formerly Greenwood the Great). He is a woodland elf of the line of Elves that stayed in Middle Earth when many crossed the sea to Valinor and lived among the pantheon of demi-gods. Arwen, Galadriel, et al. are of the Elves who left Middle Earth, then returned. So kin from their very beginnings, but waaaay back, but not close kin at all.
@clg9cu
@clg9cu 21 день назад
Arwen and Elrond were both born in Middle-Earth. Part of their ancestry is from the High Elven exiles of Valinor. Galadriel is one of the very few Elves left in Middle-Earth who came from Valinor. Most who survived the ancient wars returned. All Elves are entitled to sail there, but not the mortal races.
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 44:00, much of the middle part of this movie was invented by the screen-writers. Peter Jackson is said to have based the action on "Zulu," a movie he much admired, where a small band of British soldiers face an enormous army of Zulu warriors. Here, the Rohirrim are facing Wargs, which are imagined as a sort of cross between a hyena and a grizzly bear. In the book, the Wargs are intelligent werewolves. In FOTR, as the Company turns defeated from trying to cross the Pass of Caradhras, they are attacked at night by a pack of Wargs; Gandalf defeats them by setting a hilltop on fire. In the book, this is why the Company decides to go through the Mines of Moria.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Even that name is perfect for those things. I can definitely see the hyena in there. Thanks for commenting and watching!
@janerobinson4693
@janerobinson4693 25 дней назад
Ok can’t wait for the next one. Love it so much
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thanks so much. Doing my best!
@danielott135
@danielott135 24 дня назад
Great reaction and I get you point on theatrical versions but you have to watch the extended version of return it’s the only one that actually changes the movie please take that into consideration
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thank you so much. I'm definitely going to watch it. I'm going to finish out the theatrical trilogy. Then I'm eventually going to come back and watch all three of the extended editions. And I'm going to upload reaction videos for them.
@RoadDoug
@RoadDoug 24 дня назад
The Uruks are from Isengard, the orcs are from Mordor. The Uruk were supposed to hand the Hobbits over but Sauraman had already decided he was going to betray Sauron. That was the argument. At least I think that’s correct.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
Makes sense. Thanks for explaining it.
@megabubfish
@megabubfish 24 дня назад
The extended editions are simply a superior viewing experience on many levels. Unlike many extended edits of films, LotR didn't add bloat- the extended editions are simply the completed films.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
That's good to know. I'm looking forward to watching them. Yeah I hate when other extended editions and directors cuts do that. My least favorite of all time is the director's cut of Terminator 2. One of the very few examples where I think the theatrical cut is actually the better version.
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 17:00, each Orc wore foam latex prosthetics that took several hours each day to apply. The suits were good for about a week's wearing before they had to be discarded. The pile of dead Orcs is a pile of discarded Orc-suits. Waste not, want not...
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
🤣 Now THAT is smart. Instead of creating a new set piece just to smolder and burn in that scene, just repurpose the trashed Orc costumes that are going to get thrown out anyway. Good idea.
@Henngist
@Henngist 24 дня назад
When Frodo seems to be petting the Ring, the Ring is "Grooming" Frodo. Dragons are MUCH bigger.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
That makes sense. Amazing how they can elicit such a sense of malice from an inanimate object. As far as dragons, I have been corrected. 🙂 Thanks for commenting and watching!
@jeromeburoker1770
@jeromeburoker1770 24 дня назад
The extended cuts are a better represention of Tolkien's story because even with the extended edition, parts of the story are left out. The theatrical editions are out there because of the bean counters and their fear the audience wouldn't be able to sit and pay attention for even the cut down version's run time, and therefore their investors wouldn't make their money back.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
Oh, trust me. I understand about the bean counters. But to play devil's advocate for a moment. Do you think the theatrical cuts potentially at least initially opened this world up to more fans? People who had no experience with LOTR and may have been put off by a 4 hour run time on a movie they didn't know, who sat down in a theater and experience some version of these stories for the first time. Loved it and then went on to the books, the extended editions, the Hobbit, and a whole universe of lore and fandom. Do you think there are fans for whom without the theatrical cuts, substandard as they might be, they may never have been introduced to LOTR at all? Genuinely curious. Thanks for watching!
@BobBlumenfeld
@BobBlumenfeld 25 дней назад
Bernard Hill played King Theoden. He died a few weeks ago.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Yes, I'm hearing that now. 79 years old. Quite a life I'm sure.
@Ajonr
@Ajonr 25 дней назад
In the case of this trilogy, I would humbly suggest that watching the Extended Versions first, if for no other reason than many plot points are a lot clearer, then watch the theatrical versions for a better understanding of what was cut out for the theatrical releases, and perhaps why. (Yeah, I know, you are already done viewing the full series as of the date this was uploaded.)
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
I respect your perspective on this. I think people just feel differently about that concept in general. Not even just for Lord of the Rings, but just movies in general. I actually haven't watched and shot my reaction for ROTK yet. I am definitely going to watch the extended editions too though, to appreciate the difference. Thank you for sharing your perspective with me and for watching.
@arlome
@arlome 24 дня назад
Dude. I can’t believe you talked over Sam’s speech at the end!! PLEASE don’t do that in the next movie. There are some amazing scenes dialogues coming and we want to relive those with you. PLEASE.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Believe me, I really tried to include as much of it as I could uninterrupted. It was beautiful. But if I let it play too long, I could never upload the video. I understand the frustration and I share it. Believe me. That was also very sweet of you to say. Thank you.
@SixFour0391
@SixFour0391 23 дня назад
Some of the best humor is "gallows humor"! Ive been known to dabble, myself;)
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
Something has to release the pressure in the dark moments. Or at least attempt to. 🙂
@jaysinjaymesbrown7819
@jaysinjaymesbrown7819 25 дней назад
Also, this is an adaptation of the books, compressed for cinema. Don't let people confuse you by conflating book and movie. The duration of this trilogy is approximately 5 years, 13 months of that from shire to shire.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Wow! I had no idea that was the timetable.
@davidemarzoli4815
@davidemarzoli4815 24 дня назад
@@SeenEverythingThis is incorrect. In the books and movie both, the quest takes 13 months. In the books, there is an additional 17 year period between Bilbo’s birthday party and Frodo finding out that his ring was the One Ring and subsequently embarking on the quest. Frodo is 50 years old at the time he leaves the Shire, which puts him roughly in his late 30s in Hobbit years (that’s my math, not Tolkien’s, but Hobbits come of age at 33 and live to be 100 often as not, so late 30s seems about right).
@jaysinjaymesbrown7819
@jaysinjaymesbrown7819 23 дня назад
@davidemarzoli4815 you're wrong. Yes it took 13 months from the time they left the shire until when they returned... but you failed to take into account the "it's been 4 years to the day since Weathertop" comment, so you could assume the timeframe of the trilogy, Shire to Greyhavens, is approximately a 5 year span.
@davidemarzoli4815
@davidemarzoli4815 23 дня назад
@@jaysinjaymesbrown7819 Ah. You got me.
@davidholloway1817
@davidholloway1817 22 дня назад
The Wizards are in fact angelic beings, known as Maiar, sent by the Valar (Gods) to Middle Earth, in the guise of old wise men, to advise the peoples in their struggles against Sauron. Sauron & the Balrog were once Maiar too, albeit fallen angels. Saruman was the head of the order & although good, was extremely arrogant. In the lore Saruman was researching The One Ring. His arrogance & his thirst for knowledge made him more susceptible to its effects, merely by researching its lore. He also thought he could outwit Sauron. While pretending to find The Ring for Sauron, his real intent was to keep it for himself & overthrow The Dark Lord. Another bit of info to correct a misconception, though the lead up to Frodo leaving the shire was many years longer in the book, the actual quest took 13 months. One last thing I end up telling reactors: the winged creatures ridden by the Nazgul are not Dragons. Though not formerly named by Tolkien in the book, the creatures are referred to s "Fell Beasts."
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 21 день назад
I see, so not just anyone can be a wizard. They are a different class of angelic beings. So, when Gandalf the Grey dies, I assume that means he ascends to a higher form of being as Gandalf the White. They really should make movies about the corruption of Saruman. Or even the rise of Sauron. Maybe some of that is in the Hobbit movies.
@melanienolley
@melanienolley 19 дней назад
The extended version answers most of your questions.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 19 дней назад
Well, that's handy. Looking forward to doing those reactions out here. Thanks for watching!
@nemesis4852
@nemesis4852 24 дня назад
Maps? I printed my own. An invaluable piece of art, available on several sites also an extremely helpful way of keeping geography straight. BTW there's a wealth of information on many very valuable LOTR fandom websites. Until you finish watching all three movies be careful because of spoilers but they're a great resource for those who are interested.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
I imagine there have to be millions of words written just on lore sites for such a deep fandom. I also did figure there had to be easily accessible maps online, but also I imagine very expensive and fancy ones too. Thanks for the tip and for watching.
@BobBlumenfeld
@BobBlumenfeld 25 дней назад
Map of Middle-Earth? I have one on the wall behind me right now.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
I knew someone would! Thanks for commenting and watching!
@BobBlumenfeld
@BobBlumenfeld 25 дней назад
One thing to know about Haldir (the elf leader): Elves bodies can be killed, but their souls cannot. They are truly immortal.
@nemesis4852
@nemesis4852 24 дня назад
So we're all elves?
@SadieMeazell
@SadieMeazell 24 дня назад
@@nemesis4852I believe I read somewhere that Tolkien made elves to reflect what man would have been if they had not sinned and been cast out of the Garden.
@BobBlumenfeld
@BobBlumenfeld 24 дня назад
@@SadieMeazell He was a very religious Christian, so he might have, but I wonder how that fits in with the fact that (as I remember it) at least some of the elves disobeyed the Valar (high angels) and returned to Middle-Earth from Valinor.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
I'm still trying to figure out what The Undying Lands are. Probably another thing I will find out in the extended editions.
@rikk319
@rikk319 24 дня назад
Human souls can't be killed either. I think you mean that their afterlives are different. Elves, even if they die, can come back in Valinor and even return to Middle-Earth, after a time. They are effectively tied to the existence of the world, and don't go to the Tolkien version of Heaven when they die.
@mgentles3
@mgentles3 22 дня назад
Faramir's battle is in Osgiliath, the city in the river that was once the capitol of Gondor. The country east where they met Frodo and Sam is Ithilien. East of Ithilien is 'the dead city' which was once a fortress of Gondor, but fell to Sauron and is occupied by the Nazgul. Minas Tirith, the fortress west of the River, is now the Capitol, but Gondor still extends south and also west into the mountains behind Minas Tirith. BTW, Tolkien did not want the 'third' book named 'Return of the King'. It was a stupid thing for the publishers, George Allen and Unwin, to insist upon.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 21 день назад
Do you know what he wanted the title to be?
@mgentles3
@mgentles3 18 дней назад
@@SeenEverything You know, I don't remember whether I ever knew that or whether Tolkien himself had suggested a different title. Subject for research 😃
@mgentles3
@mgentles3 22 дня назад
Missed this when it dropped. Hurricane Beryl, ya know. Here late, but here for it! They filmed all three concurrently. They were released at the rate of one per year., beginning in 2001. Frodo and Sam can't find a way down from the Emyn Muil. All they're seeing is straight dropoffs. Saruman is in the tower of Orthanc in Isengard. Sauron is in the tower of Barad Dur, hundreds of miles South and East. Saruman was very slowly seduced, partly through using the Palantir (seeing stone). Sauron had taken one long before (from Osgiliath) and was able to control what Saruman saw and brainwash him. Of course, if Saruman had not desired power over others, he wouldn't have fallen victim to the seduction.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 21 день назад
Glad to have you here now and thanks for the information. Stay safe out there. Thanks for watching!
@janerobinson4693
@janerobinson4693 25 дней назад
Andy Serkis was there with them
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
That is AMAZING! Even more of a testament to what a great performer he is.
@jyrhds1
@jyrhds1 25 дней назад
The majority of the filming for all three movies happened at the same time, and they were released one year apart during the holiday season.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
I'm hearing that now. Incredible undertaking. Studio must have had a lot of faith. Which is really saying something, because Peter Jackson hadn't done a lot before these movies. At least not anything near this size.
@jsaradar10
@jsaradar10 25 дней назад
In the story, they are only gone about half a year or so from the Shire, for the two towers time period.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
And is it way longer in the book?
@janerobinson4693
@janerobinson4693 24 дня назад
No
@captainlubitz8902
@captainlubitz8902 23 дня назад
1:40 i like your decision on that and I'm all here for it! I think too that the extended edidion is even better, knowing what is extended and what is not. After watching both I'm sure all will agree that the extended IS in fact better. Nontheless you get more out of it watching the theatrical cut first and then the extended cut
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
Thank you so much. That's how I approach movies with special editions in general. There are very rare exceptions.
@oldchannel_MoM
@oldchannel_MoM 24 дня назад
My answer to your intro. If I haven't seen the movies and I were to choose which version to see first, I'd choose the extended editions. For me, it's not worth to see the theatrical ones and it goes for other movies too not just LOTR. But that's just me since I'm into the full experience every time. Just an FYI, I did see the theatrical versions first and when I learned about the extended ones, I never looked back 😁
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
And I totally respect that perspective. For me, I want to know the differences. To understand why the extended cuts are better. And very rarely, they aren't. I mentioned in a comment to someone earlier. I firmly believe that the theatrical cut of Terminator 2 is a lot better than the director's cut. With the exception of one or two scenes, the things they cut out in theatrical made the movie better. Now, like I said. That's rare, but it does happen. I also just usually aim for the experience that the moviegoing public had when something came out. Then I go for the more complete versions afterward if they're available. But that's me. Keep an eye out here for me on LOTR though. Sometime soon, after I've finished the theatrical trilogy, I'm going to go back and watch the extended editions out here too and then compare. Thanks for watching.
@oldchannel_MoM
@oldchannel_MoM 23 дня назад
@@SeenEverything I agree with you, and I'm excited for all those 👍
@CliffordLake
@CliffordLake 24 дня назад
Yes, I have a map of Middle Earth. In fact, I have maps of Middle Earth through the Three Ages.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Very thorough. Well done. Thanks for commenting and watching!
@CliffordLake
@CliffordLake 24 дня назад
@@SeenEverything Tolkien spent nearly his lifetime working on his universe. The least I can do is attempt to understand what I may.
@BobBlumenfeld
@BobBlumenfeld 25 дней назад
That wasn't a dragon the Black Rider was riding. Tolkien does not give it a name beyond "a fell beast."
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
That somehow makes it even scarier. 🤣
@dizzlebizzle8424
@dizzlebizzle8424 24 дня назад
this is kinda nice, i haven't seen the theatrical version since...they came out in theaters originally. i've seen the extended probably 100 times by now lol
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
First, thank you. Second, Wow! That is A LOT of LOTR. You must really love it.
@dizzlebizzle8424
@dizzlebizzle8424 18 дней назад
@@SeenEverything Honestly, they were my favorite novels as a teen and then the movies were my favorite movies as a young adult, so when my sister bought me the extended-cut DVD's every christmas, it became the thing i went to sleep to everynight, so that's a lot of "views" and then i've literally watched dozens upon dozens of entire 3 movie reactions on youtube (you being the latest). Yeah, I really love it. Tolkien was a true genius, and I can't explain why I like his works so much more than any other authors. Looking forward to your feelings when it's all wrapped up.
@dennisswainston411
@dennisswainston411 18 дней назад
Legolas is from a different Elven line. Arwen and Aragorn are actually distant cousins! Elrond's (Half-Elven) brother Elros choose to become mortal thousands of years ago and he became the first King of the Human Kingdom of Numenor. He is Aragorn's distant ancestor. Elrond is Aragorn's great, great, great, great...Uncle!
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 17 дней назад
That is DEFINITELY distant. 🤣
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 13 дней назад
@@SeenEverything Legolas is actually related to Galadriel and therefore Arwen as Galadriel is her grandmother and Oropher was a close cousin to one of her uncles and uncles brothers. Remember I told a bit about Thranduil and Oropher in my dead marshes comment ?
@sweet6tweety
@sweet6tweety 24 дня назад
I’m a huge Lotr fan who watches the extended version often and I actually think that the theatrical versions are much better to introduce people to the LOTR universe, especially for ppl who are not big fantasy fans. The extended versions are a little daunting due to their length/extra information, they also have pacing issues due to the extra scenes(mainly in the 3rd).
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thank you so much. That's how I feel too. I'm being introduced to all of this for the first time and just trying to absorb it. The second movie was easier than the first though. At least I wasn't starting from zero on my understanding. Thank you for commenting and watching.
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 25 дней назад
At 47:00, Legolas and Arwen are unrelated.
@benjiringe1120
@benjiringe1120 24 дня назад
Unpopular take: watching the theatrical version 1st is a Must because there's a reason the director removed certain scenes. They are the dead leaves that were culled by the gardener. Unnecessary.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
Certainly a different take than I've been hearing. Thanks for sharing your perspective on it and for watching.
@wawaweweb1811
@wawaweweb1811 24 дня назад
Telling a hobbit to 'go home' is the worst line in the movie. Its like telling someone in Atlanta to go to their home in Chicago. (Except that the land is full of wolves, orcs, robbers and Eru knows what)
@Mini_Hayley
@Mini_Hayley 24 дня назад
… you do know that scene is in the return of the king… right?
@wawaweweb1811
@wawaweweb1811 24 дня назад
@@Mini_Hayley Yeah, they do it twice. Trreebeard says it to Merry and Pippen and Frodo says it to Sam.
@Mini_Hayley
@Mini_Hayley 24 дня назад
@@wawaweweb1811 tree beard meant it like “that’s what you should do” and pippin even echoed this by saying “maybe we should go home” where as the scene with Frodo was a literal “go home.”
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Yeah, I almost thought Treebeard was trying some reverse psychology on them. But probably not.
@martinbynion1589
@martinbynion1589 24 дня назад
All three films were filmed in a relatively short period early on in the process. The (limited) CGI had then to be added, especially Gollum, and choices from all the material available. The films were released at 1 year intervals. Imagine the agony of waiting that long!!
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
For huge fans finally getting a proper live action adaptation, I imagine it had to be excruciating. Good thing the turned out well. 🤣 Thanks for watching.
@blanewilliams5960
@blanewilliams5960 5 дней назад
Are we at a movie theater ? No, we are not so watch the whole friggin' movie! The so called extended editions are the complete films, the theatrical "cuts" are just that. Films that have been cut down to fit the theaters schedule.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 4 дня назад
You're certainly entitled to your opinion and it is one that is shared by many. I chose to enjoy both versions of this film, and I'm glad I made that choice. I'll be doing reactions to the extend editions in the near future. Thanks for watching!
@mgentles3
@mgentles3 22 дня назад
I'd say Smeagol/Gollum saved THE RING, not Frodo, in the Dead Marshes. Hama, the door warden of King Theoden, is so overlooked. His face shows that he heartily dislikes Grima. He holds back his men from attacking Gandalf and company too. Another thing almost always overlooked is the amazing horse (or horses) that plays the part of Shadowfax. He's ridden bareback and without bridle (sort of) and yet does things that are difficult to train a horse to do. (Just my horse crazy rant.)
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 21 день назад
Interesting point about Smeagol/Gollum. Though that might have also been a vulnerable time for him to pull the ring off of Frodo. I read it as some of the last vestiges of Smeagol's decency. I'm sure Hama was disheartened to see what had happened to his king, but was unable to do much about it. You're right, the horsework in these movies is impressive overall.
@skinnyjax
@skinnyjax 24 дня назад
Your reaction at 24:27 . Yeah, you belong in Middle Earth. I'm glad you're enjoying the movies. I think the reason why so many people urge you to watch the extended versions is, at least the way i see it, it's because we had to wait a WHOLE YEAR! to get an extended version. So we're anxious for you to enjoy what we had to wait so long for. But I kinda agree with you, enjoy the theatrical versions, then do the extended. Also that way, when you watch the extended, you I'm sure you'll pick up that you might've missed the first time around. It's a journey! The Hobbit is just fun. I truly enjoyed Prime's Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power. The story of the creation of the Rings. Takes place in the 2nd Age. Thousands and thousands of years before Frodo and Bilbo. And it is visually stunning! The shots of the Dwarven underground kingdom are incredible! Anyway, enjoy the rest of your journey in Middle Earth. May the good will of Elves, Men & Dwarves be with you... Namárië
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thank you so much. I can definitely appreciate that. I'm sure when true fans first saw the extended versions they wanted to erase the theatrical ones from existence. It really just comes down to how I've always watched movies. I almost always want watch things in the order people originally did. That is part of the reason I plan to do more than just first time reactions on this channel. But anyway, thank you so much for the warm welcome and for watching.
@skinnyjax
@skinnyjax 23 дня назад
It's the same thing with The Hobbit/LOTR watching order. The Hobbit has so many callbacks to LOTR, that if you watch it the other way around you miss a bunch of the fun tidbits.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
@@skinnyjax Exactly.
@Big_Tex
@Big_Tex 24 дня назад
Now if you just asked me on the street I do not insist you have to watch the extended edition - that’s not what I saw in the theaters in 2001 to 2003. HOWEVER, different story if you’re a YT reactor. Literally every one here keeps telling you guys to watch the extended versions. If you have followers recommending movies everyone is clear you need the extended editions. There’s no way you don’t get that message good and hard. Yet some like you inexplicably ignore all that & come up with some lame excuse just to save yourself a half hour. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I don’t know, makes no sense.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
I can't speak for other channels and mine is new. But that doesn't really have anything to do with why I've chosen to proceed this way. I have been a fan of movie reactions for at least a few years. I still watch them. I've been a fan of movies all my life. I finally decided to give it a try myself, but I am planning to do something slightly different here. I will have first time reactions, but I'm also going to do other types of reaction and commentary videos centered around movies. The same reason everyone is telling me to watch the extended editions is one of the reasons I'm doing it this way. I'm going to finish watching the theatrical trilogy, then at some point in the near future I will watch the extended trilogy. All out here on this channel. Then I'm going to compare them and form my own opinion. If I had watched through this theatrical trilogy and no one had said anything, I probably would have just moved on. Trust me, I have read and responded to almost every comment. I'm listening to the audience. Just in my own way. Thanks for watching.
@JohnComeOnMan
@JohnComeOnMan 24 дня назад
We all could use a friend like Sam.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
We certainly could.
@MrGaleanon
@MrGaleanon 24 дня назад
I would watch an extended version rewatch of you, especially for you to talk about HOW MUCH GOT CUT
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
I'm figuring that would be the game. To see if I can pick out all the extra parts. I actually wonder how to classify that. It's not a first time for the movie but it is for the extended edition. Oh well. I'll figure it out. Thanks for commenting and for watching!
@MrGaleanon
@MrGaleanon 24 дня назад
@@SeenEverything compare and contrast with a verdict of “how much was overcut”
@babsnadoy
@babsnadoy 18 дней назад
When he said he’s watching the theatrical version,I bounced. Fans are helping you so you could understand it better. We watched the theatrical version when it was released because it was the only choice we had. You have that option to choose the better one. It’s like going to a grocery store and found your favorite product on sale for a buy one get one free deal, but you chose to take just one out of principle. 🙄 Go figure.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 17 дней назад
I realize it may not make sense. As someone who loves movies I generally want the whole experience. So I want to watch both. It seems, from what most people are saying, that it might be impossible to enjoy the theatrical cuts after seeing the extended editions. So this is kind of my only chance. From what I'm hearing, it also appears that it's more that the theatrical and extended cuts have different goals. Pacing vs. character development. I guess it would depend on what you value. Anyway, thanks for offering your opinion. Hope to see you in the extended editions.
@bernice6867
@bernice6867 24 дня назад
I watched the Bakshi animated film in the theatres when I was a kid ( 4 times) Then I had to read the books of course because the film is only half the story. I was absolutely enchanted, maybe because of the amazing worldbuilding, I also appreciated the words he up. Later I had audio dramatizations in English and German which I listened to a lot. So the films came relativrly late in the game. So I love Frodo a lot more than most people who saw the films first. ( Except Elijah Wood fan girls of course.)
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Sounds like you've had a very complete and lifelong connection to these stories. That's beautiful.
@bernice6867
@bernice6867 23 дня назад
@@SeenEverything 😊
@bernice6867
@bernice6867 22 дня назад
@@SeenEverything I think you might have chased away all those true die hard fans who can quote everything by not watching the extended edition. You are busy watching everything but I can really recommend the BBC adaptation.Ian Holm was giveb the role of Bilbo, because he was an excellent Frodo there. Peter Jackson also took some inspiration from there. (Esp. with the ending).
@BobBlumenfeld
@BobBlumenfeld 25 дней назад
King Theoden is Eomer and Eowyn's uncle, not their father.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
That makes a lot more sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me and for watching.
@craidiefin
@craidiefin 25 дней назад
Oh that aint a dragon, dragons in this world are far, far more terrifying. Those are closer to dinosaur birds that don't really have proper name in the movies. They're called "black wings" in the books if I recall right.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
🤣 Yes I have been correctly on the scale of dragons. Looking forward to seeing it.
@saddlerrye6725
@saddlerrye6725 24 дня назад
1:07 Please let me stop you right there. I've watched the extended edition first, and let me tell you that I adored it from the very beginning. Then when I watched the theatrical cut later, I could see how much *less* I liked those. While I can concede some scenes being cut, there were absolutely crucial moments that didn't make it as well. Boromir for example is greatly simplified - and in a way vilified - in the theatrical cut. I can understand not wanting to watch something as long as the extended edition. If that's your choice, it's perfectly fine, the theatrical cut is already a masterpiece. But when people tell you that the extended version is better, please don't chalk it up to the superfans' overenthusiasm, because in this case it's more of an objective truth.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thank you for sharing your experience and your perspective. Actually the length didn't play any actual role in the decision of which ones to watch. Despite me playing it up a bit in the first reaction. I'm glad you got to watch the extended editions first and you love them. I'm sure I will to. What I was referring to was the people who saw the movies before the extended editions were released. I'm sure it made the extended editions that much better having seen theatrical first and then seeing the full versions. But this way, I'll get to enjoy both versions at least once. I'm enjoying watching these. Then I'll enjoy the extended ones. If I did it the other way around, that wouldn't have been possible. Thanks for commenting and for watching!
@nemesis4852
@nemesis4852 24 дня назад
When Aragorn is showing the young man the value of his sword, Haleth introduces himself as "Haleth son of Hama". Hama was the guard at the gate of Edoras who asks the Company to disarm before entering to meet with Théoden, and who is the first one killed by the Warg (some sort of hyena/wolf cross) rider when Théoden's people are attacked on the road to Helm's Deep. In the book he is killed defending the Hornburg. For further, lookup "Helms Deep in "Tolkien Gateway" The largest Lord of the Rings encyclopedia.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
I never would have made that connection. Thanks for explaining it to me. That's also a beautiful moment for Aragorn. Showing his commitment to these people and his skill as a leader to encourage the demoralized from despair. Thanks for watching!
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 13 дней назад
@@SeenEverything he never died in the books. He’s very important. He was one of the names within the great song to react to called The Mounds Of Mundburg by Morwen Thorongil. Many others out there for this lament among many other songs and poems brought to life.
@Romerrr-e8z
@Romerrr-e8z 23 дня назад
I have the map. its from the book: the two towers
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
Just seems like a natural artistic souvenir that any big fan would have.
@patriciajanebramwell7761
@patriciajanebramwell7761 25 дней назад
different "tribes" of elves, legolas from further south if i remember correctly. been awhile seen ive read the books.
@BobBlumenfeld
@BobBlumenfeld 25 дней назад
Legolas is from the north.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Thank you for commenting and watching!
@conniegaylord5206
@conniegaylord5206 25 дней назад
You will find out during the Hobbit
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Ominous since you didn't specify WHAT I will find out. 🤣
@mpointe1978
@mpointe1978 24 дня назад
I suggest you get some tissues for Part 3 ;)
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Noted. I figured we had to be headed there in some capacity.
@littleogeechee223
@littleogeechee223 24 дня назад
Don’t neglect the books!
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
One mountain at a time. 🤣
@Linruat
@Linruat 24 дня назад
nope. saw the extended first. and they have important scenes not included in theatrical.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 23 дня назад
I have no doubt. Looking forward to watching them.
@randylahey1822
@randylahey1822 18 дней назад
its one film, split into 3 parts.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 17 дней назад
That is certainly a way so look at it. That was another thing I was told out here was that it was one book. But then I also read that it wasn't all in one for the first time until 1968. That the three books (or sections) were originally released separately in 1954-55. Where do you make the distinction between an original movie and separate sequels vs. something you see as a single movie in multiple parts? Genuinely curious. Thanks for watching!
@User87_
@User87_ 24 дня назад
This dude gets an instant downvote for trying to “outsmart” the LOTR community. What a clown 🤡
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Not trying to outsmart anyone. Just running my channel. Thanks for commenting and watching!
@b4yma
@b4yma 25 дней назад
No, it has nothing to do with the fact that we saw the theatrical versions beforehand. There are actually no "extended" editions, there are only horribly mutilated theatrical versions in which very important scenes are missing.
@SeenEverything
@SeenEverything 24 дня назад
Well, you have a very definite perspective on it, and I respect it. Guess I was wrong in your case. Thanks for commenting!
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