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Lord Shen - Kung Fu Panda's Greatest Villain (Kung Fu Panda 2) 

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@SagesRain
@SagesRain 3 года назад
between tai lung, shen, and kai, who is your favourite villain from the kung fu panda trilogy? also, if you are interested and able to support me, you can at patreon.com/sagesrain
@wolflink595
@wolflink595 3 года назад
Tia lung
@crumblemuffin1257
@crumblemuffin1257 3 года назад
Shen. Although Tai Lung is relatable,Shen is my favorite because it's rare I see a villain whose defeat and whole character revolves around paranoia
@ProsperousOne_
@ProsperousOne_ 3 года назад
❤️
@leonidas385
@leonidas385 3 года назад
I got first tai lung, then shen and kai last
@norreras343
@norreras343 3 года назад
kai is pretty wasted, i love the first battle between po and him, he just procede to take the shit out of po, then they just screwed up with second fight. same with the town of pandas (i forget its name) it would be really asomme to see them as something more than a living joke
@raven3067
@raven3067 Год назад
Tai Lung chased his destiny but never found it. Shen tried to avoid his destiny and still met it.
@speedracer2008
@speedracer2008 Год назад
Tai Lung failed to achieve his destiny, because he lacked an understanding of what the Dragon Scroll truly meant. He believed it could give him power, when the actual power was within himself. He was so focused on becoming as powerful as he could to make Shifu proud that he overlooked the fact that he already WAS powerful and Shifu already WAS proud of him. This prevented him from understanding the true purpose of the Dragon Scroll and not getting the power he wanted.
@KiiBon
@KiiBon Год назад
Tai Lung chased a destiny that wasn't his
@QUBIQUBED
@QUBIQUBED Год назад
no way....
@ifeanyinwachukwu1054
@ifeanyinwachukwu1054 Год назад
Ironic
@Digidragon55
@Digidragon55 11 месяцев назад
Tai Lung could of found his destiny ,if Shifu told him NOT to put his eggs in one bowl.
@sia6045
@sia6045 3 года назад
“You want to see? It’s a gift. It’s your parting gift. In that it will part you. Part of you here, part of you there and part of you _way_ over there *_staining_* the wall”
@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735
@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 3 года назад
You insolent fool! *starts fighting*
@mochiboni2560
@mochiboni2560 3 года назад
God that line is pretty bold with it being a family movie, the delivery was an amazing one as well
@nebsam7137
@nebsam7137 3 года назад
I loved that bit
@maryray4960
@maryray4960 3 года назад
@@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 *Epic fight ends* That is a warning,you are no match for our kung fu!
@neiordostuff1706
@neiordostuff1706 3 года назад
@@maryray4960 I agreed... But this is. *Flying back standing on the cannon*
@theprofessionalnftvendor7611
@theprofessionalnftvendor7611 2 года назад
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth." Suits so much Shen.
@GoldenAureliush
@GoldenAureliush 2 года назад
Diavolo 😳
@John_C_J
@John_C_J 2 года назад
Naruto?
@omartistry
@omartistry 2 года назад
@@John_C_J No yah weeb, it’s an Old African proverb.
@ginam5497
@ginam5497 Год назад
i sceenshoted that nft
@Lyrosen947
@Lyrosen947 Год назад
Nezha but the movie is only 30 minutes long :
@DonniedrakoE
@DonniedrakoE 3 года назад
Shen truly is a masterfully written antagonist. A beautiful peacock that basically used pride to hide his evil and fear to get what he wants. Kung fu lands really did not need to make a villain this menacing.
@ChildOfChaos07
@ChildOfChaos07 3 года назад
Why not? Do you think they should have given the movie a 1 dimensional villain because it’s a kid’s movie?
@DonniedrakoE
@DonniedrakoE 3 года назад
@@ChildOfChaos07 hell no I’m literally just saying that dreamworld didn’t need to make shen this menacing and well written when a lot of movies of the demographic would’ve just decided to make a one dimensional mustache twirler. This movie is great example of movie not talking down to kids.
@stefgen6394
@stefgen6394 3 года назад
that was so misleading
@lilacpen8678
@lilacpen8678 3 года назад
And then, to top it off, they got GARY FECKING OLDMAN to voice him.
@Extremezotako
@Extremezotako 3 года назад
Yes
@rimurutempest4945
@rimurutempest4945 3 года назад
I love how the prophecy regarding Shen’s defeat, about the warrior of black and white, could very well refer to Shen himself rather than Po
@TsulaAngenati2292
@TsulaAngenati2292 3 года назад
Yes, his own feathers white, his machines that are an extension of his own, black, he was defeated by a warrior of black and white, and even in death he thought falling by the hands of his own machine would make him escape his own destiny but he fell for it again
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 3 года назад
@@TsulaAngenati2292 lol imagine him squishing himself just to survive anyway
@TsulaAngenati2292
@TsulaAngenati2292 3 года назад
@@jammygamer8961 Shen: *plays dead* destiny can’t get to me if it can’t find me
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 3 года назад
@@TsulaAngenati2292 being serious if Shen was to some how survive i wouldn't really care as long as he was written well like in KFP 2
@TsulaAngenati2292
@TsulaAngenati2292 3 года назад
@@jammygamer8961 same
@rllyfunny3630
@rllyfunny3630 3 года назад
Honestly Shen is like one of my favourite fictional characters EVER. I didn't realise how cool he is before, but when I watched movie again I was like: wOwW. He's well written, has cool design and voice actor. Perfect match in my opinion.
@sussybaka4276
@sussybaka4276 2 года назад
Yeah same I saw this as a kid in 2011 and thought the movie was pretty decent but when I rewatched it grown up I realized how freaking good it was, especially Shen. Shen is just such an interesting villain, too bad the KFP movies have a time limit so they couldn’t add more to his story. Criminally underrated movie and best of the trilogy
@daisydusk4179
@daisydusk4179 2 года назад
Exactly! This is gonna sound silly, yet my younger self had a crush on Shen when I first watched the movie. Looking back, I now see why I adored him so much despite him being the antagonist. His design, personality, and reasoning seemed so cunning to me, expecially in comparison to some of the more "flat" characters in the movie. The extent to how well a character is written is crucially important, and when done right, makes a character quite memorable and pristine, just like Shen. Nowadays writing doesn't seem to much of a focus in shows and movies. Making a character look attractive or look cool doesn't always work. Personality, motives, and the character as a person is equally appealing and important. This "rule" also applies beyond making a character seem attractive. Making a rude, relatable, or cutesy character (to name a few) goes beyond the surface of appearance and shallow personalities. My apologies for rambling a bit, but hopefully this mindump finds purpose as by appealing to someone's curiosity!
@arbitrarylib
@arbitrarylib 2 года назад
@@daisydusk4179 i crush on him too
@nanakoshinomiya7947
@nanakoshinomiya7947 Год назад
FOR REALLL
@nanakoshinomiya7947
@nanakoshinomiya7947 Год назад
@@daisydusk4179 me too hahaha
@Spongebrain97
@Spongebrain97 3 года назад
I always found it pretty sad but poetic how in this universe the Pandas are also endangered but not through poaching by humans but because of genocide and that helps explains why Po is the only one of his kind in the first movie
@annguyenlehoang7779
@annguyenlehoang7779 3 года назад
So ... Because he is the only panda left ... Then there is no way panda race can Revive at all .
@themightypancake5695
@themightypancake5695 3 года назад
@@annguyenlehoang7779 Well, I mean....the third movie exists...
@satriosukarji1777
@satriosukarji1777 3 года назад
@@themightypancake5695 Plus, there was the end scene of the 2nd movie, also showing the Pandas in the 3rd movie.
@themightypancake5695
@themightypancake5695 3 года назад
@@satriosukarji1777 Oh yeah, that's right! I nearly forgot about that. I liked it, it was a good teaser for the final movie
@fawksart843
@fawksart843 3 года назад
I guess that’s pretty Po-etic
@crumblemuffin1257
@crumblemuffin1257 3 года назад
Apparently,Shen was supposed to be written weak and somewhat a reject by his parents for the fact that he is an white peacock (which is the color of death in China),it really puts into perspective of his motives. In the end it wasn't Po the warrior of black and white that finished him man..
@joshuahecht6866
@joshuahecht6866 3 года назад
It was himself. Shen is destroying himself by going after evil and because he didn’t listen and rejected by his own parents for his looks, it leads to his doom but passed peacefully and finally let’s go of pride and realizes the guilt of what he’d done to Po’s entire species.
@marcopohl4875
@marcopohl4875 3 года назад
The white peacock with a black soul, a warrior in black and white
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 3 года назад
you are correct. Soothsayer is also supposedly a parental figure to Shen which you can see in the movie with him putting up with her occasional nonsense. Supposedly in the novel version of the movie Shen was weak as a child (never read the book so i can't confirm this to be true) but him becoming very good at kung fu to get some more of his parents love that he felt he lacked makes sense to me. He was also planned to be weak in earlier version of the films story but then it became him being weak as a child which is why the novel got it but then the movie removed that completely. The movies ended up leaving a fair bit out on Shen
@crumblemuffin1257
@crumblemuffin1257 3 года назад
@@jammygamer8961 can't judge them. Apparently,Shen was the hardest character the folks had to animate. And it kinda makes sense,because of the feathers and such. However I would love to see an show that focuses on the villains of Kung fu panda. That would be gold
@dnhdfnfkrjxjxfjjggj3002
@dnhdfnfkrjxjxfjjggj3002 3 года назад
Surprising, white is also the color of death in India too.
@Galimeer5
@Galimeer5 2 года назад
"It's your parting gift...in that it will part you. Part of you here, part of you there, and part of you waaay over there, _staining the wall!"_ That would be a pretty dark line even a mature story. And Kung Fu Panda is fundamentally a family movie.
@jennifern2403
@jennifern2403 2 года назад
Even when i watched KFP 2 for the first time, i thought that was actually really dark for an animated movie meant for kids.
@Chadmiral
@Chadmiral Год назад
A little morbid but I really wanna see the aftermath of that...
@an-animal-lover
@an-animal-lover Год назад
Always loved that line
@ViperDivinity
@ViperDivinity Год назад
@@Chadmiral guts and blood splattered all over the floor. It would be so disturbing to see that.
@_ftreiv5129
@_ftreiv5129 3 года назад
"I scarred you for life." "That's the thing Shen, scars heal." "No they don't. WOUNDS heal." "Oh yeah. What does scars do? They fade I guess?" "I don't care what scars do!" Kung Fu Panda 2 also had the funniest dialogue of the trilogy.
@recordofragnarokisapurehyp6660
@recordofragnarokisapurehyp6660 2 года назад
and it's so tragic yet. You can see how Shen can't let the past go and how Po accepted his past: he doesn't have hate but he understands himself, he understands he has family and others. Shen on the other hand tried to let go the past but he failed, he still lives by a thought of his parents abondoning him. Po's scars faded, even though they're still there, they don't hurt anymore. Shen's scars have never faded, even though he could go further powered by his hatred (wounds heal), his scars - thoughts of his parents abondoning him have never faded away, he can see them: he sees them in himself, in Po, in his father's throne, in Soothsayer's words... If he had accepted his parents loved him and all his conquers and genocides had been pointless, that might have let his scars "fade away" because he could start his life once again (through I believe he's beyond repair). But he fears that too much. So he rather chose death instead of seeking a new life.
@farrel_ra
@farrel_ra 2 года назад
​@@recordofragnarokisapurehyp6660 agree, the only villain in the series who choose death. That's such a mature content.
@recordofragnarokisapurehyp6660
@recordofragnarokisapurehyp6660 2 года назад
@@farrel_ra True, Shen's a really deep, mature and complex character if you look closer.
@lc4n333
@lc4n333 2 года назад
What does scar do? Dramatically let you fall to death
@AllenTheAnimator004
@AllenTheAnimator004 2 года назад
Shen "I don't care what scars do!" Scar: *crying in the corner*
@Xaxp
@Xaxp 3 года назад
The scene where Po uses the raindrop to confront his PTSD is one of the most memorable scenes in the series. Shen was an underrated villain, considering he committed an actual atrocity. He didn't singlehandedly beat his way past 1000 guards or send China's greatest martial artists to the "spirit world". He actually ran a *genocidal campaign* against pandas to the point where (as far as anyone else knew) Po was the only one left.
@esjf2190
@esjf2190 3 года назад
What about all the pandas in KFP 3?🗿
@Xaxp
@Xaxp 3 года назад
@@esjf2190 The point is everyone believed Po was the only panda. The ending of KFP 2 where it's revealed some survived wasn't actually supposed to be there but was put in to keep kids from having to contemplate a subject as serious as genocide, from what I know.
@xiyi4764
@xiyi4764 2 года назад
@@esjf2190 some of them probably survived that's why there are still pandas in China nowadays XD
@QUBIQUBED
@QUBIQUBED 2 года назад
Reminds me of Avatar:The Last Airbender. But jokes aside, KFP2 Is my favorite movie of all time, ALL TIME I TELL YOU! ALL TIME!!!
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ 2 года назад
@@esjf2190 they only survived by escaping to a secret village, and by never letting anyone else know where the village was, or that it even existed at all. To Shen, by committing genocide he had ridden the world of pandas.
@opie_yt
@opie_yt Год назад
Tai Lung was Shifu’s villain Kai was Oogway’s villain But Shen was Po’s villain
@GhostRider-vm1su
@GhostRider-vm1su Год назад
Tai Lung was shifus step son 🥵
@RainStreet7129
@RainStreet7129 Год назад
@@GhostRider-vm1su 😐
@migo.offa30
@migo.offa30 Год назад
​@@GhostRider-vm1sutake a break
@yugiohgames104
@yugiohgames104 Год назад
The Chameleon has to be Tigress's villain.
@haystackbill6187
@haystackbill6187 Год назад
​@GhostRider-vm1su Why tf are you using that emoji here you weirdo?
@marcelineabadeer8380
@marcelineabadeer8380 3 года назад
Kung Fu Panda 2 is a masterpiece and Shen helped by being the perfect villain to Po.
@edgelord8337
@edgelord8337 3 года назад
I think the scene when his invention was about to fall and him and he closes his eyes it really just showed how he truly had nothing to live for anymore. Even if he accepted po's mercy he had nothing. No empire, no family, no love, nothing to fill the void in his heart so he just accepted the fate which he tried to avoid his entire life. Feels man.
@thewildcardperson
@thewildcardperson 3 года назад
@@edgelord8337 going out on your own terms is as much as we can hope for
@stalinsoulz7872
@stalinsoulz7872 3 года назад
Smash cut to three And the Villain Become Tai Lung's bad Copy Paste Villain
@stalinsoulz7872
@stalinsoulz7872 3 года назад
@@thewildcardperson he is every right a True Warlord
@billybob4532
@billybob4532 3 года назад
I like this movie but I don’t think it’s a masterpiece, but it is your opinion.
@catherinecao4810
@catherinecao4810 3 года назад
Po is the best protagonist. He doesn’t have that typical black-white morality. He saw how Tai Lung and Shen were in pain and wanted to help them. He knows what pain feels like, and he wants to make sure others don’t feel that pain. That’s a true hero.
@natalienussbaum2773
@natalienussbaum2773 3 года назад
Yes! That is what I love about the series!
@cthonisprincess4011
@cthonisprincess4011 3 года назад
It’s also why Po was easily able to master the arts of inner peace and qí- because he already has a sense of inner peace because he faced and overcame trauma at a young age.
@natalienussbaum2773
@natalienussbaum2773 3 года назад
@@cthonisprincess4011 Oh, that is a really cool take on it!
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 3 года назад
It's a bit of a stretch to say he wanted to help tai lung.
@catherinecao4810
@catherinecao4810 3 года назад
@@fightingmedialounge519 he tried to be honest with him. Tai Lung was the one who didn’t listen.
@christoffersjberg933
@christoffersjberg933 2 года назад
His parents, after seeing their own son make dangerous fireworks, decided to figure out how to stop him. They didnt try and talk with him, maybe he was already going through something but it once again fits Oogway's quote. "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it". In seeking out the a way to stop him he got angered and did worse than what they were trying to stop.
@578destroy7
@578destroy7 2 года назад
Almost correct answers, but there is one thing wrong. It's not wrong to weaponize gunpowder in the first place.
@christoffersjberg933
@christoffersjberg933 2 года назад
@@578destroy7 no but they were frightened by it. Think about that, your own parents not trusting you with their own gift to the world
@578destroy7
@578destroy7 2 года назад
@@christoffersjberg933 What do you mean? I don't quite understand the content of the reply. Anyway, weaponizing gunpowder is not wrong. Because it's not illegal, and it's a huge help in defending a city or country.
@Jack574.
@Jack574. Год назад
@@578destroy7 Not necessarily, but Shen weaponizing gunpowder opened the door for a lot of potential damage and future pain. Shen’s parents feared the destruction that could have come as a result of his innovation.
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 Год назад
@@578destroy7 the 1st Gunpoweder weapons were Fire arrows, but its likely the Chinese never knew of its explosive and propelent properties until later in the 13th Century and thats also the period when the 1st Guns and Canons were used for warfare. Ironically or fittingly depending on your POV it was the Mongols that spread the use of Gunpowder eventually finding its way into Europe and saw extensive use of it in the 15th century.
@jdk201100
@jdk201100 3 года назад
Regarding how Shen had escaped destiny by killing himself on the wreck of his ship, it could also be argued that when Shen was caught in the explosion the soot and ash partially covering his body could also indicate that he was the warrior of black and white all along. The writing for Shen was truly masterful when people really dive deeper into it.
@CreativeWM_Personal
@CreativeWM_Personal 2 года назад
Or maybe by defeat the prophecy meant that Po would win through words not violence and Shen then accepts his own death knowing he lost the battle with Po
@yee1704
@yee1704 2 года назад
That's bruuuuuutally tragic but very very real. Our most repentant villains often suffer the brutal deaths ( Samson in the bible ) and I think Shen wanted a second chance in the spirit world. Soothsayer's fear mongering is what hits me because religion is a serious deal in the real world we live in. I feel bad thinking more and more about it.
@niaford690
@niaford690 2 года назад
or perhaps, because shens eyelids are black, as is his beak(?) but his feathers/skin are white, that soothsayer meant he would cause his own downfall the entire time, but shens mind thought "Black and white... pandas!"
@vitorbowen2347
@vitorbowen2347 2 года назад
@@yee1704 Samson is not a villian tf
@victor_silva6142
@victor_silva6142 2 года назад
​@@vitorbowen2347 Well technically from the view point of the Phaelistines... He kind of was? And Delilah was your tragic diagonist as well...
@andybravo3335
@andybravo3335 3 года назад
Imagine a child clicking this video and then becoming existentialist before teenage years
@darksun.et.al.99
@darksun.et.al.99 3 года назад
I've always been an existentialist
@sluttyMapleSyrup
@sluttyMapleSyrup 3 года назад
Hey, they might have parents they can actually discuss that shit with lol
@kariissmol9172
@kariissmol9172 3 года назад
RU-vid is 13+
@darksun.et.al.99
@darksun.et.al.99 3 года назад
@@kariissmol9172 not necessarily. My sister has a RU-vid channel and she's only 12.
@darksun.et.al.99
@darksun.et.al.99 3 года назад
Not like she's posted any vids or anything tho
@TeoTH80
@TeoTH80 Год назад
Shen accepting his death is such a powerful moment.
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 Год назад
if you think about it he's the only villain to undergo any sort of character development
@hafirenggayuda
@hafirenggayuda Год назад
While still trying to kill Po, he already given up his life at that point
@s.g.7572
@s.g.7572 3 года назад
More notes on Shen's design: he echoes Po in many different ways, all of them subverted somehow. Firstly, both of them predominantly feature the colour white, but Po complements it with his black patches, which creates the illusion of depth. Shen's secondary colour is red, which as well as being more violent has the effect of bleaching him. Where the blackness of Po makes the white richer, Shen's reds turn him into the same colour as bone. As well as this, Po is all round edges. His fighting style, while technically masterful, is also less elegant than others, often relying on his strength and throws more than anything (like his contribution to the ship blockade at the end). You never get the sense during his combat that he could kill someone with his moves, it's all blunt force. This goes very well with his design. Shen is sharp, slender and jagged. His neck tapers, his beak is hooked and cruel, his body descends into talons. When he's fighting, he wants to kill and hurt the opponent, and we can sense from the way he looks that he could do it too. Finally, the clothes. Po dresses simply, just a pair of short pants (I'm sure there's an actual Chinese name for the garment, but I don't know it). He's unpretentious and content in himself. He has nothing to hide. Shen is all about subterfuge, with his plots and hidden blades, so he dresses in a long regal gown (again, probably a non-Anglicised term for it) that looks expensive. Despite the fact that he's at best a disgraced nobleman, he dresses like a king before his coup is even pulled off. His clothes feel like compensation, like he's hiding all his insecurities and inadequacies behind ostentatious, surface-level power.
@emblemblade9245
@emblemblade9245 3 года назад
Very nice analysis!
@Snoozziing
@Snoozziing 3 года назад
This was awesome to read!! You perfectly captured their essence respectively!
@ainelily2353
@ainelily2353 3 года назад
Holy shit youre really good at noticing details
@IAmMuchAnger
@IAmMuchAnger 3 года назад
Bro you're using . And , in reverse
@gusfring8405
@gusfring8405 3 года назад
Nice
@strangerways6691
@strangerways6691 3 года назад
This movie is right next to Shrek 2 with just honestly how amazing it is.
@daidai199
@daidai199 3 года назад
Two perfect sequels
@crumblemuffin1257
@crumblemuffin1257 3 года назад
And to think people were bitching about it because "it was too dark for an child's movie" Ah ffs-
@tazi000
@tazi000 3 года назад
@@crumblemuffin1257 lmao this WAS my childhood. I watched it so many times and I always adored it especially the scene where Po was wrapped in the bandages and realizing he must live in the present
@JoshuaGraham8383
@JoshuaGraham8383 3 года назад
Shrek 2 is overrated
@rvh1999
@rvh1999 3 года назад
Shrek 2? Really? That's more of a loose comedy then it is seriously toned
@lourivas21
@lourivas21 3 года назад
Shen is the primary reason why Kung Fu Panda 2 is my favorite in the trilogy. I will never get tired of watching it again and again for Shen alone. That's not to say he's the ONLY thing I like about the movie tho, because the movie's got great writing and great character building...Shen just elevates the whole experience into something truly phenomenal.
@Pandanananananananan
@Pandanananananananan Год назад
And the comedy is just 👌🏼✨
@MM-vs2et
@MM-vs2et 3 года назад
Shoutout to Gary Oldman, for his one of his most underrated roles. Really captured the perfect dichotomy of fear and arrogance in Shen's character.
@Ch50304
@Ch50304 2 года назад
So true.
@Theoss-sl1fk
@Theoss-sl1fk 2 года назад
He's also the one who played Reznov in COD, which explained a lot
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 Год назад
Shen is what happens when Commissioner Gordon let himself go.
@realar
@realar 3 года назад
It's freaking incredible that he is the definition of deadly beauty. Everything he does defies your expectations and he's voiced by a cinematic chameleon - Gary FREAKING Oldman.
@classicalmusicreplay
@classicalmusicreplay 3 года назад
Im in love with that guy aka gary oldman. He such a great actor
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 2 года назад
Gary Oldman also did Victor Reznov, another favorite character of mine.
@dradekon
@dradekon 2 года назад
O shit sirius black
@clementcachico5240
@clementcachico5240 3 года назад
Fun fact: There's a very good reason why Chen is an almost pure white Peacock. The color black in Chinese opera usually implies a decisive or impartial nature. White has a different meaning in China as well. In the West white typically denotes purity. Someone adorned in white is usually going to function as the hero, or at least inspirational figure, of a story. But in China white is usually associated with death or mourning. Which is why villains in chinese opera are often represented wearing white or just mostly white in general.
@msk-qp6fn
@msk-qp6fn 3 года назад
Me and my friends as a kid were puzzled at how Shen tolerated the soothsayer's antics. We always thought in a way Shen was seeking validation from the soothsayer for some odd reason.
@denisaene2308
@denisaene2308 3 года назад
That's a very interesting take!
@rockhistoria2537
@rockhistoria2537 3 года назад
Maybe it's because she is the last direct connection he has to his parents, to his old life before he was banished
@onlystarsknow767
@onlystarsknow767 2 года назад
Somebody here commented that it's canon that Shen was a sickly child and his parents weren't around much so the soothsayer took care of him. That's why Shen put up with her silliness like her eating his robes and stuff. I guess he looked up to her as a parental figure?
@OscarORosas
@OscarORosas 2 года назад
This is still my interpretation.
@quakethedoombringer
@quakethedoombringer 2 года назад
@@onlystarsknow767 not sure about the canon stuff but there are scenes that establish that Shen has underlying health problem - his clear albinism while his parents are relatively normal (albino animals don't usually last long in the wild) - him constantly getting out of breath after fighting the kung fu masters - notice how rarely he gets physical with other fighters, instead preferring quick strikes or ranged attack This physical disability contributes to his inferior complex and people with inferiority complex are more likely to seek validation from their parental figure, hence him weaponizing gunpowder and averting his fate as a (messed up) way of seeking his parents approval. Doesn't help that his health problem means that he is more likely to be afraid of death than anyone else
@MahoroAndou
@MahoroAndou 3 года назад
Shen is easily my favorite villain in the series. He had wrapped up his entire identity around his destiny and conquering China that even when the Soothsayer tried to turn him away from his path, he couldn't even see another option. He was so broken inside that he felt that he was too far gone down the path that he was on to turn back. He most likely was hurt so much by his parents treating him as if he was a villain that he became a villain.
@dylancross1039
@dylancross1039 3 года назад
His parents were entirely justified though. Dude killed dozens of innocent men, women and children in that village of pandas out of nothing more than fear. He was treated like a villain because he did villainous things.
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 3 года назад
@@dylancross1039 i think he meant like before that.
@Fivzk
@Fivzk 3 года назад
@@dylancross1039 in the official website for the movie, there was extended lore, and it stated that Shen’s parents were ashamed of him because he’s white and he was mostly raised by the soothsayer. Now there are only the dvd for sale on the website tho :/
@dylancross1039
@dylancross1039 3 года назад
@@Fivzk The only problem with that is that dialogue from the Soothsayer directly contradicts that idea. Soothsayer: The cup you choose to fill has no bottom! It is time to stop this madness! Shen: And why on earth would I do that? Soothsayer: So your parents can rest in peace. Shen: My parents... hated me. Do you understand? They wronged me. I... will make it right. Soothsayer: They loved you! They loved you so much, that having to send you away killed them!
@Fivzk
@Fivzk 3 года назад
@@dylancross1039 I mean his parents are the ruler and in that time period having a weak child could actually make it hard for them to rule, so it’s possible that Shen’s parents love him, but they have to sorta hid him away.
@KnightofFunnyJunk
@KnightofFunnyJunk 2 года назад
What makes Shen an amazing villain is he stuck to his beliefs and principals even in defeat He literally chose blissful oblivion then to admit to Po what he did was wrong. That meant even in death he had no shame over what he did. "Scars dont heal. Wounds do. Scars Fade." - Shen.
@Jack574.
@Jack574. Год назад
I always thought his very last moment was basically giving up and letting go of the internal fear and pride that was causing him so much pain.
@shafqatishan437
@shafqatishan437 Год назад
The last line is mainly innovated by Po not Shen
@saradoka4539
@saradoka4539 Год назад
Scars don't heal wounds do? Excuse me Shen smartie pants, but what is the difference between scars and wounds? 🤣🤣🤣
@interifyrealify3887
@interifyrealify3887 Год назад
@@saradoka4539 scars are a mark of a wound that is there. a wound is just basically a wound yes. the difference between them is that a scar can stay there forever while a wound can just close and disappear
@cloutwolf5665
@cloutwolf5665 Год назад
That’s another thing I like about him even though it’s a bad trait he never wavered in his plan and continued with her goal despite knowing he couldn’t really win, he couldn’t just give up without a fight. He knows he won’t be fulfilled when he takes over China but he wants wants it anyway.
@agonizingstarbutterfly1184
@agonizingstarbutterfly1184 3 года назад
Man these villains are a lot more complex than I thought when growing up.
@Ehh97
@Ehh97 3 года назад
I love Shen as a character so much, its a shame that Kai didn't live up to that standard
@ChildOfChaos07
@ChildOfChaos07 3 года назад
He did not. He was boring.
@aidankocherhans9861
@aidankocherhans9861 3 года назад
A comedic villain like Kai could work in theory, but not after following two incredibly intimidating and deep villains.
@aidankocherhans9861
@aidankocherhans9861 3 года назад
@cosmic edits Agreed
@TheKyrix82
@TheKyrix82 3 года назад
I thoroughly enjoyed Kai
@detaaditya6237
@detaaditya6237 3 года назад
While Kai is the most powerful out of the three, he's also the weakest in term of character. How ironic
@marrier9999
@marrier9999 3 года назад
It helps that Gary Oldman delivered a fantastic performance that really brought Shen to life. Some movie actors don't take animation/cgi movies seriously, but Oldman really threw himself into this one.
@oompalumpus699
@oompalumpus699 Год назад
"let's a gooooo....." - Mario Pratt
@katm8128
@katm8128 Год назад
He appears so unsure in the kung fu interviews, you’d never expect him to pour so much into this character if you had only seen those
@Wicks897
@Wicks897 3 года назад
Shen: “ A part of you here, A part of you there, A part of you *WAY OVER THERE STAINING THE WALL!* ” Such a savage!
@midnightthesmartfox9981
@midnightthesmartfox9981 3 года назад
YOU INSOLENT FOOL
@CharlieMoonStar8723
@CharlieMoonStar8723 3 года назад
@@midnightthesmartfox9981 *starts fighting and gets several blades broke off* “show off...”
@evastarunit7361
@evastarunit7361 3 года назад
@@CharlieMoonStar8723 that is a warning you are no watch for our kung fu
@CharlieMoonStar8723
@CharlieMoonStar8723 3 года назад
@@evastarunit7361 I agreed.. But this is. *Quickly flies back and reveals the cannon*
@chris0898
@chris0898 3 года назад
@@CharlieMoonStar8723 BOOM!!💥💥
@nismasdiary
@nismasdiary 3 года назад
'Scars dont heal.WOUNDS heal' Iconic
@RYMAN1321
@RYMAN1321 3 года назад
And Po's line after that "They just fade don't they?" or something like that LOL
@fernthaisetthawatkul5569
@fernthaisetthawatkul5569 3 года назад
@@RYMAN1321 shen - i dont care what scars do!
@tsuumee4545
@tsuumee4545 Год назад
Shen is my favourite villain because of his dominant trait. (Intelligence.) This trait is shown not only through his actions, but also his appearance. 1: Shen crafted metal/iron armour for his feet to protect them, light his cannons, and hold a heavier grip on opponents. (It may also be to weigh him down, giving him a more stable balance.) 2: He also designed his metal/iron blades to blend in with his feathers, hiding them behind his sleeves so that no one could tell when he was armed. Therefore, giving his enemy less time to react. *Another thing I noticed about his blades is that Shen decides the number of knives he throws based on the size, distance, and emotional vulnerability of his opponent. If the opponent is larger and harder to incapacitate, he will fire many blades at once. The same is true for an extremely distant opponent, to ensure that he won’t miss. However, if the opponent is small, near, or doesn’t expect the attack, he won’t waste more than one unless needed.
@rohambahraee
@rohambahraee 10 месяцев назад
Good analyzing
@madsceptictrooper6803
@madsceptictrooper6803 3 года назад
Lord Shen isn't just Kung Fu Panda's greatest villain, he is DreamWorks' greatest villain ever.
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 3 года назад
100%
@Joker-sy4xr
@Joker-sy4xr 3 года назад
Definitely
@AverageHandle_
@AverageHandle_ 3 года назад
Him and maybe Rumple as a second
@souhiyori8032
@souhiyori8032 3 года назад
I agree. He's got charisma with that voice too 👀✨
@daufigambo8940
@daufigambo8940 3 года назад
THIS
@wil.d_sage
@wil.d_sage 2 года назад
As an adopted kid, I loved how this movie handled adoption. It not something you normally see done in film. The final scene with Po returning home to his dad, after going off to find his family, and telling him he’s his son gets me every time
@eltheactivist
@eltheactivist 3 года назад
the part where shen closes his eyes before dying still hits different years later.
@princessnatasha21
@princessnatasha21 2 года назад
He really scares me til this day. He was truly terrifying. Tai lung was fluffy but this guy was really scary
@dogmaticeuthanasia
@dogmaticeuthanasia 3 года назад
The fact that they made a PEACOCK of all animals seem perhaps more menacing than a SNOW LEOPARD is why Shen is one of my favorite KFP villains.
@guitarist2463
@guitarist2463 Год назад
Even more than a bull too
@xatiter
@xatiter 3 года назад
The thing I like about the first two movies is that they have a weight to them, that they have some depth and darkness in the them. The third movie, while not bad by any means, just didnt have that same weight.
@dylancross1039
@dylancross1039 3 года назад
The whole weight of the movie was in Po finding out that his kind still exist out there. It was more of an internal conflict than an external one
@memecliparchives2254
@memecliparchives2254 3 года назад
@@dylancross1039 Yeah but there could have been more elaboration. But it's not a huge issue for me either, I've been grateful that DreamWorks has done not one but 3 good movie trilogies throughout their run so far.
@memecliparchives2254
@memecliparchives2254 3 года назад
@John Theo I am the Dragon Warrior though was iconic.
@lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198
@lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198 3 года назад
The third one had a lot of plot holes
@onlystarsknow767
@onlystarsknow767 2 года назад
Not sure if its true but I read somewhere that the 3rd movie was gonna be a bit dark but parents were complaining, saying that the 2nd one was too dark and inappropriate for children so they decided to tone down the 3rd movie and just made Kai somewhat of a comic relief instead of a dark villain like Shen. Karens ruined it smh
@heyitzdaredevil8305
@heyitzdaredevil8305 3 года назад
Is it me or any trilogy that Dreamworks has, I always end up liking the second movie the best?
@wyntertheicewyvern6226
@wyntertheicewyvern6226 3 года назад
I feel the same way.
@diegomarquez520
@diegomarquez520 3 года назад
RIGHT?! It’s always the SECOND movies the same thing with shrek, httyd, and even madagascar
@hyenaloaf1858
@hyenaloaf1858 3 года назад
The first movie sets everything up. Because the rules and world are already established, the second films can focus on building a story rather than setting everything up
@thatoneguyii5458
@thatoneguyii5458 3 года назад
Shrek 2 was a pretty good sequel ngl
@realar
@realar 3 года назад
Even Madagascar?
@schmoop3660
@schmoop3660 3 года назад
I love how we’re still talking about this movie ten years later
@grusome1
@grusome1 3 года назад
IT CAME OUT 10 YEARS AGO??? WTF
@RYMAN1321
@RYMAN1321 3 года назад
@@grusome1 We grow up so fast don't we? I was a Sophomore in High School when this came out, now I'm finishing up my Associates Degree in college.
@grusome1
@grusome1 3 года назад
@@RYMAN1321 I was in grade school and remember walking my brother to kindergarten. Now I've graduated and began a course while my brother graduates in a few years. This is unbelievable-
@Revrie8
@Revrie8 2 года назад
Honestly, I loved Shen as a villain, not only did we get the stunning imagery of a peacock fighting but we got to see a more devious enemy
@haileyharmon5298
@haileyharmon5298 3 года назад
It's respect Lord Shen hours.
@SagesRain
@SagesRain 3 года назад
let them know hailey
@haileyharmon5298
@haileyharmon5298 3 года назад
@@SagesRain Gladly.
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 3 года назад
Shen is such a perfect evolution from the first movie, that his whole character and story is basically defined by one line from Oogway. Now that moment feels like foreshadowing, even if it wasn't.
@Keltaryn
@Keltaryn 2 года назад
There are no coincidences... 😜
@Dizzydaisy6969
@Dizzydaisy6969 2 года назад
Kung Fu Panda 2 truly was a masterpiece. I have never seen such a heart warming (and heart breaking) movie that is absolutely beautiful at the same time. And what I'll remember most from it is my dad's love for it too. He's not really a fan of animated things, especially movies and children's shows and such. But he commented how spectacular and moving this movie was. And how he thought out of all of the movies in his lifetime he thought Lord Shen to be the best executed villain of all time. He still talks about it today if he's asked who his favorite villain is. He's pretty much a fanboy of Lord Shen :D. Anyways, I completely agree with everything, I kind of subconsciously thought the same things about Shen, never truly realized it until it's said. He's one of those lovable villains, despite the literal genocide he commited.
@578destroy7
@578destroy7 2 года назад
Despite committing genocide, it's clear that Shen is a very charming and lovable villain character.
@andyzhang7890
@andyzhang7890 3 года назад
Really wish Kai was half as well written as Shen... KFP 2 is one of my favourite movies ever, it's honestly such a slept-on masterpiece. So glad to see this movie being discussed, and by one of my favorite video essayists at that.
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 3 года назад
tbh i hope Kai gets redeemed by there maybe being a Oogway and Kai prequel movie
@tototats16
@tototats16 3 года назад
It's sad how Kai was supposed to be a darker villain, but some stupid parents complained.
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 3 года назад
@@tototats16 yea i heard that too
@souhiyori8032
@souhiyori8032 3 года назад
@@tototats16 tbh, if that continues (if they make another movie of kfp), i doubt it will be any better than kfp1 and 2. They're too protective of their kids when in fact, kids should have more exposure to these types of movies because it teaches us a lot of advices that even a grown up would need.
@OK-69420
@OK-69420 3 года назад
Unpopular opinion but Kai is better than Shen
@butterqueeen
@butterqueeen 3 года назад
I always loved Shen because he was so beautiful, which somehow makes him more menacing, but it also makes it sadder because such a beautiful creature is so broken
@magicdance4273
@magicdance4273 3 года назад
"He doesn't have any identity beyond vengeance" Fuck man, why you gotta make me cry at 8 in the morning?
@Jacky-zt5ch
@Jacky-zt5ch 6 месяцев назад
Lord Shen takes power, genocide begins, countless bloodshed. Most historically accurate Chinese warlords depiction in Dreamworks’s history.
@berzerkfury1459
@berzerkfury1459 3 года назад
Everyone is their own best enemy. Do not get caught up in your self, collecting injustices and walking in revenge. You only end up hating yourself for letting go of who you were/wanted to be for the sake of proving a meaningless point to no one.
@jadenjones693
@jadenjones693 3 года назад
True
@irok1
@irok1 3 года назад
Great
@Change-your-username
@Change-your-username 3 года назад
Oh, shut up. Vengeance is good when it is justified.
@Snoozziing
@Snoozziing 3 года назад
Interesting, thanks for commenting that!
@inspecthergadget4503
@inspecthergadget4503 3 года назад
This is generally true. But I do not 100% agree on the no-vengeance thing, since it depends on how bad is the crime. Like someone murdering my family, oh that I will definitely commit vengeance or die trying.
@robertschmidt4239
@robertschmidt4239 2 года назад
Lord Shen just standing there and accepting his death is honestly my favorite Kung-fu Panda movie moment.
@benderthepirate
@benderthepirate 3 года назад
One of my most favorite villains, on par with Vader, Joker, and Azula!
@smurf8883
@smurf8883 3 года назад
Very random list, but I mess with it.
@benderthepirate
@benderthepirate 3 года назад
@@smurf8883 those are some of my favorite villains, but I understand it is kind of random.
@smurf8883
@smurf8883 3 года назад
@@benderthepirate Why is Azula your favorite? I understand why for me, but why for you?
@DracoMagnius
@DracoMagnius 3 года назад
That's a Hell of a list and the thing that binds them all is an inner chaos. Vader sacrificed everything and those around him for the woman he loved and got nothing in return. The Joker is so broken he doesn't even remember what made him the way he is remembering it differently every time he reflects on it. Azula pursuing the love of her father a man only interested in using her for conquest, unloved and slowly falling apart. Lastly Shen the man seeking to avoid destiny until it crashed upon him living in total fear of his fate. All broken individuals, all insane and revel in destruction and all burned by love in one way or another, except maybe the Joker, but again his multiple choice past means he could have been burned by love.
@Jetstreamsamdidnothingwrong
@Jetstreamsamdidnothingwrong 3 года назад
you and i have very similar taste in villains
@fluoriteaishiteiru7733
@fluoriteaishiteiru7733 3 года назад
when i was a kid, i really REAALLY just wanted to hug Shen, he seems like the type who really just needs a hug and needs to know he is loved and cared for, ya know?
@suamikujungkookerenyeager1751
@suamikujungkookerenyeager1751 2 года назад
Me too. I believe he wasn't a type of villain that would kill you just eyeing contact with him
@578destroy7
@578destroy7 2 года назад
Me too. At least Shen is by no means a congenital villain.
@junkyyard2273
@junkyyard2273 2 года назад
It's just inevitable he would go evil. He massacred an entire village because of fear and anger. Who even was there to calm him down when his future was read?0
@578destroy7
@578destroy7 2 года назад
@@junkyyard2273 There is absolutely no guarantee that he would have been forced to become evil. Because everyone has a chance to be good, a chance to choose good. Moreover, in other works, there are cases where a character who was trying to commit a large-scale evil such as murder or genocide stops becoming evil due to the dissuade of other characters. Shen's parents didn't even try to talk to Shen and asked Soothsayer to see Shen's fate, and Shen heard himself fate and committed a massacre of pandas.
@tommyvasquez2708
@tommyvasquez2708 Год назад
i remember being a kid and seeing shen close his eyes as the canon fell on him. those few seconds stuck with me and made me appreciate the character even more
@Bl1tzkn1ght
@Bl1tzkn1ght 3 года назад
I love how Gary Oldman can go from Regal and Eloquent to Absolutely Psychotic to reflect Shen's personality.
@platypusbunneh
@platypusbunneh 3 года назад
An amazing movie. A terrifying villain (and one of the greatest in animation). And a heartbreaking- but hopeful- story. I love this so much.
@fluffcake
@fluffcake Год назад
Shen is one of Dreamworks greatest villains. A cold and ruthless leader who committed genocide against the peaceful and benevolent pandas. But also really complex as his downfall was pretty much his own fault and he chose not to accept inner peace due to his own selfishness, and he knows this so well. Can’t see what new villain KFP 4 Will cook up and if he/she brings something new and heartbreaking to the table to confront Po. And to quote the great 2013 movie Free Birds, Shen is indeed a very Angry Bird.
@alexgroot2508
@alexgroot2508 3 года назад
"The dead exist in the past, and I must tend to the future." Another interesting thing about this one is that Shen is, again, failing to live in the *now.* His entire journey up till that point was fueled by slights of the past, and here he resolved to only focus on the journey he had yet to undertake. Always looking forward or backwards, but never at where he stood.
@Smashtacular01
@Smashtacular01 3 года назад
Gary Oldman has always been one of my favorite actors. Dreamworks was 100% on point with their casting choices.
@classicalmusicreplay
@classicalmusicreplay 3 года назад
Istg he my fav too. Think dat im alrdy addicted to him
@lourivas21
@lourivas21 3 года назад
this character analysis made me so emotional. I love Lord Shen so much, and it's really nice to see a break down of his character, his psyche, his brokenness...all things that make him such a tragic character. every time i (re)watch Kung Fu Panda 2, I always want to hug Shen. and in a very twisted way, i'm glad he died by his own will :
@eindreamyaing3060
@eindreamyaing3060 3 года назад
He was always my favourite KFP villain and I love that you’ve covered him as well. Your videos are always very poetic and calming and this is no exception. Loved this.
@AdventVFX
@AdventVFX 3 года назад
this is my favorite out of the trilogy, I couldn't believe how good it was when i watched it as a kid and the flashbacks never fail to make me feel something for Po
@volico72
@volico72 2 года назад
The part where Lord Shen dies might be one of my favourite villain deaths in animation. Its not even because of how he died, its the fact that the reason why he died a villain's death is because he carried his evil side to the bitter end, even after Po offers him a chance to turn his life around. It fits in so well to the thematic message of, who you were doesn't define you as much as who you choose to be.
@elius1548
@elius1548 3 года назад
I remember being in second of third grade and having this film come out. My best friend and I thought Shen was awesome. For some reason we were convinced the next movie was going to have Shen’s parents, each twice as strong as him, come avenge him.
@maniacram
@maniacram 3 года назад
Huh weird, I kind of had the same idea. Wonder why.
@elius1548
@elius1548 3 года назад
@Tristan Wintle well I was like 9 and didn’t think about that
@RYMAN1321
@RYMAN1321 3 года назад
@@elius1548 I understand, though it did imply here that both his parents have long since died.
@lahlybird895
@lahlybird895 3 года назад
The first two kfp villains broke my heart
@OK-69420
@OK-69420 3 года назад
Why not the 3rd one?
@lahlybird895
@lahlybird895 3 года назад
@@OK-69420 probably the lack of a tragic backstory, the first you had motivation and nuance, the third was just a power-hungry get who wanted power
@OK-69420
@OK-69420 3 года назад
@@lahlybird895 not this again.. Long story short, Kai didn't immediately want to get chi's. He saw that oogway was focusing more on chi than Kai. So Kai wanted to get chi to impress oogway. Ironically,He got locked in spirit realm for 500 years by oogway for that. And in kf3 we actually got to explore po's tragic background
@lahlybird895
@lahlybird895 3 года назад
@@OK-69420 hey, I love the movie! It was great! I just didn't fall in as in love with the third villain as I did with the first two, granted he still pleasantly evil but he's just not as heartbreaking as the first two were! I never said he was power hungry from the start, just that in the end his motivation was mostly power while the others wanted power and something else that had to do with their past, he had a pretty darn happy past in comparison! But yeah I do think crazy turtle dude
@lahlybird895
@lahlybird895 3 года назад
@person person probably
@nathanaelcrowder5442
@nathanaelcrowder5442 2 года назад
Lord Shen is truly Kung Fu's greatest villain and will remain to be one of the all time greatest of all times.
@rigulur
@rigulur 3 года назад
Tai Lung, at least, retains the general mannerisms of a kung fu master. Compare Tai Lung's dignified movements to the click-sounds of Shen's metal greaves as he saunters maliciously towards master thundering rhino for the first time, it's a scary contrast between the two.
@matiaspereira9382
@matiaspereira9382 Год назад
Fun fact: Shen is the main antagonist of the Kung Fu Panda franchise as a whole. I guess it makes sense because he's the reason why Po ended up in the Valley of Peace and he's the one who is the most personal to Po
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
I couldn’t agree more Shen physically, emotionally and psychologically attacked PO, making him a stronger warrior and hero.
@Fivzk
@Fivzk 3 года назад
can we just talk about the fact that this movie will be 10 YEARS old at 5.26? Also the irony that the only good thing Shen had done in the film, releasing the soothsayer when he was about to go to war, indirectly caused his downfall because it was the soothsayer that helped Po to find inner peace.
@ChromaWRLD999
@ChromaWRLD999 Год назад
Shen is the coolest character in the series. He’s like Douma from Demon Slayer. He’s so evil that you just can’t hate him.
@RheubhennCabizares
@RheubhennCabizares 8 месяцев назад
Shen Is Both Muzan and Douma
@josephbarfield6930
@josephbarfield6930 3 года назад
Lord shen has the most screentime out of the villains in the films, tai lung has 10 mins Kai has 12 and Shen has around 20ish just shows he's the most important villain in the trilogy
@christopherauzenne5023
@christopherauzenne5023 7 месяцев назад
To add to shen’s menace, he’s an example of how real world history and knowledge can affect how we see a villain as a threat. In the film he uses firework powder to develop the first cannon/gunpowder, he’s in a sense the physical representation of modern warfare replacing weapons/fighting based war so the threat is made very much real in are heads because we know the power of guns and how they completely replaced old combat (so the challenge is all the more daunting for po)
@sharosecomics7793
@sharosecomics7793 3 года назад
I forgot that he allowed the cannon to fall on him. That’s huge, wow.
@crod9905
@crod9905 3 года назад
I've always said Kung Fu Panda 2 was such an underrated masterpiece! I'm glad you're here showing it the love it deserves.
@somewhatoriginal
@somewhatoriginal 2 года назад
That moment when a peacock and a panda are better written than most other movie characters.
@doctorfate2641
@doctorfate2641 3 года назад
"A person often meets his destiny on the path they choose to avoid it"
@trollking6315
@trollking6315 2 года назад
Keep this in mind. Shen was a warrior of white black and red. However his red markings were not focused on in his death scene. Just the black soot on his white feathers. By choosing to escape the "warrior" of black and white, Poe, he inadvertently proved destiny right. HE was the warrior of black and white, and he was felled by his own actions.
@lucianoben-malek693
@lucianoben-malek693 3 года назад
Lord Shen is one of my favourite villains in all of cinema. Everything from his origin, his motivation, presentation and design is incredible and Gary Oldman was perfect for the role. I love how even during his genuinely frightening and intimidating moments, you can still see the pain in his eyes; his entire life was marred by tragedy and in the end only death could end his suffering.
@micahbell7840
@micahbell7840 3 года назад
Let's just say. All 3 Villains was a masterpiece
@sussybaka4276
@sussybaka4276 2 года назад
All were good but Shen is just superior
@GhostUnderTheLight-bi1ek
@GhostUnderTheLight-bi1ek 8 месяцев назад
​@@sussybaka4276yeh and tai lung superior to kai cenat
@waterlegend72
@waterlegend72 3 года назад
I just rewatched KFP2 last night I didnt like it much when it came out but wow it got the man tears flowing, the giggles outta me and really made me feel for both Shen and Po This trilogy is so great
@Eugene_Black
@Eugene_Black Год назад
I can't help but think "what if Shen never saw the soothsayer's prophecy"
@ramennoodles4085
@ramennoodles4085 3 года назад
This is one of my favorite movies simply because it was willing to talk about deep, darker, subjects. Which I as a kid gravitate too. And as a young adult, am in awe of it still. The beauty in the complexity and ideology of both Po and Shen have a special place in my heart.
@RickRodGaming
@RickRodGaming 3 года назад
Damn, I never really thought about Shen's death scene. Seeing it from here, we can truly see he was ready to accept his fate of death in there, especially knowing that he is as quick as Po, and Po DID managed to escape, so Shen should've been able to escape too, but him just closing his eyes just shows that he accepted his fate there.
@AbimaelTurcios3040
@AbimaelTurcios3040 6 месяцев назад
I like how they made a Peacock more intimidating and terrifying than a snow leopard and a Bull.
@austinbridges1271
@austinbridges1271 3 года назад
If movies and books have taught me anything, I need to just sit back and relax to stop a prophecy. Shen made Po. Voldemort made Harry. Villains cause their downfall by trying to stop it.
@markjosephbacho5652
@markjosephbacho5652 Год назад
Reminds me of how Laius also tried to stop the prophecy that his own son, Oedipus, would kill him ans marry his wife, and it backfired, causing the very prophecy to come true 🤦🏼‍♂️
@speedracer2008
@speedracer2008 Год назад
Scar is another example. In his efforts to get rid of Simba, he inadvertently provided Simba with the means to mature and come back to face him.
@Chris_IIDeadeye
@Chris_IIDeadeye 3 года назад
There is a difference of being defeated and being killed. Po never killed Shen but he did defeat him. in litteral combat 1 on 1 and in the big fight. he accompished that by letting go of the past and being in the present. forgiving shen for all his wrong doings. but he deffinitly defeated him. shen after seeing no real way out chose what was in his mind his last and only option. death
@aidankocherhans9861
@aidankocherhans9861 3 года назад
Po defeated him by taking away his power, and he defeated himself through his self destructive behavior and in choosing death.
@altheaarchives96
@altheaarchives96 6 месяцев назад
8:15 this Shen's death explanation is way clearer than Isaac's 9 min video of only answering "why?"
@darcyxerox1589
@darcyxerox1589 3 года назад
this is still one of the best animated movies ever made
@graemusic9708
@graemusic9708 2 года назад
Tai lung sent someone back as a warning to send his message. Shen killed countless beings and a master to send his message. That itself speaks volumes. I’d rather cross tai lung rather than Shen
@ZacShallow5682
@ZacShallow5682 Год назад
Yeah he also let the furious five go aswell as a message
@radicool21
@radicool21 3 года назад
Fantastic video. One thing I noticed when I rewatched recently - is how many *chances* Shen receives throughout the film to turn things around. He is urged over and over by different people and different circumstances that things didn't need to be this way, that there was still time to turn back and make things right, even up until right before the final battle where he destroys the city bridge (a metaphor for his "bridges/relationships") in order to fulfill his vengeance. There's also a scene where he's speaking to himself as much as the soothsayer, where he sounds like he's trying to convince himself of his motivations moreso than anyone else. He receives chances to turn back, to change, and yet he's so consumed in that concept of fate that he doesn't see those opportunities to change it. It's a really compelling and tragic character arc for what little screentime he had relative to the rest of the cast and the series as a whole, and definitely agree with you that he's an incredible villain.
@SagesRain
@SagesRain 3 года назад
good point!
@souhiyori8032
@souhiyori8032 3 года назад
Yo that's a great analysis. Im saving that, if that's fine for you. I like the metaphor part of this. Also, him ending his relationship with the soothsayer ended up with him about to fulfill his destiny. If he didnt release the soothsayer, who knows what couldve happened to Po (she healed and taught him inner peace to defeat Shen). Shen got defeated when he cut off the last person close to him and even more when he rejected Po's help. But then again, even though he accepted Po's help, he's in a lose-lose situation. Die or rot in prison.
@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ
What I love about Shen is how they deconstruct the intimidating master villain image they give him in the start. Scenes like his playfull banter with the soothsayer, him being nervous about Po and trying to rehearse intimidating him in his entrance, him throwing away the throne, and especially his last talk with the soothsayer before freeing her, show that he's still just a confused kid, being ruined by his own fears In the end, I think the soothsayer was wrong about Po. For, the warrior of black and white, the one that would destroy Shen if he didn't change his path, was Shen himself
@savatage5576
@savatage5576 3 года назад
U did my favorite character good. Lord Shen is truly the reason for me getting so invested in the whole trilogy and he is by far the best character in my opinion
@widgetfilms
@widgetfilms 3 года назад
I remember seeing both movies in theaters. My parents were very surprised that the movie was good, and even more surprised when the sequel was better.
@christianthomey7352
@christianthomey7352 Год назад
" one meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it"- Master Oogway
@louietheswan9689
@louietheswan9689 3 года назад
Yes! He's my favourite dreamworks villian
@TheSwitch747
@TheSwitch747 8 месяцев назад
Gary oldman and the animation team hit gold with shen. A very well developed, insane and tragic villain
@brainstorm006
@brainstorm006 3 года назад
I love how you explain the death of Shen who accepts his own death rather than trying to get away. I always wondered that.
@tyennille
@tyennille 3 года назад
"Avatar I'm going to need you and Kung Fu panda to stay after class regarding those assighnments you both submitted"
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