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Why Syndrome is an Incredible Villain 

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Rockotar talks about Pixar's best Villain Syndrome from The Incredibles for 15 minutes, hope you enjoy!
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Footage Used
The Incredibles (2004)
Doctor Who: The Underwater Menace (1967)
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Music Used -
GBA Mario Circuit - Mario Kart 8
Tough Guy Alert - Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Termina Field - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Strong One - Mother 3
CEO Battle Part 2 - Toontown Online
An Obstacle in Our Path - Xenoblade Chronicles
Final Battle Against Bowser - Super Mario Galaxy 2
Piklopedia - Pikmin 2
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Timestamps -
0:00 - Intro and Why His Design is Great
0:58 - Buddy's Sidekick Days
3:23 - Syndrome's Obsession
5:13 - His Revenge Plan is Actually Really Good
6:55 - How Mr. Incredible Realizes His Errors By Seeing What He Might Become
7:42 - How Syndrome Could Be a Hero if He Wanted to Be
8:56 - His Jealousy Causes Him to Be Blinded to His Ego
11:59 - How His Death is Both Ironic and Poetic
12:38 - Final Thoughts and Conclusion
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Keywords -
Disney, Pixar, Incredible, Incredibles, Hero, Super, Superhero, Power, Tech, Jealousy, Genius, Cape, Robot, Island, Trap, Obsession, Syndrome, Buddy, Jason Lee.
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#disney #disneyanimation #pixar #disneypixar #pixaranimation #pixaranimationstudios #villain #theincredibles #syndrome #hero #superhero #super #incredible
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@Rockotarthepurplehatguy
@Rockotarthepurplehatguy 10 месяцев назад
Fun Fact: Syndrome is named that as a reference to "Hero Syndrome" in which a person intentionally creates a problem that only they can solve.
@REPLA_ACE
@REPLA_ACE 10 месяцев назад
*Why Rockotar is an Incredible RU-vidr* 👍👍
@admama_
@admama_ 10 месяцев назад
that makes sense actually...
@aceash5.065
@aceash5.065 10 месяцев назад
@@REPLA_ACE And also why Pixar (used to be) is a great studio.
@williehampton3855
@williehampton3855 10 месяцев назад
Pixar's next greatest villain, Lot's-O-Huggin' Bear, falls in the same category. Like Syndrome, Lotso was also a once good character who was blinded by his own delusional beliefs that someone who he once cared for didn't care for him in the slightest. You should do an analysis on him next.
@gsdtxz
@gsdtxz 10 месяцев назад
@@aceash5.065 they never was good studio
@ScorbunGame
@ScorbunGame 10 месяцев назад
Bob's line "you killed all those supers so you could PRETEND to be one?!" really nails home how dilluded Syndrome is. Bob understands that being a hero requires empathy and a willingness to use his power to help others.
@n19ntendods
@n19ntendods 10 месяцев назад
Wow! Nice attention to detail.
@KudaGeatsune3821
@KudaGeatsune3821 10 месяцев назад
Unfortunately Bob kinda missed the boat on how that empathy could've been what saved buddy from being a villain Encourage him to use his talents elsewhere away from possible bodily harm his rocket boots alone could've been an incredible idea if refined Instead of endangering his young life
@ScorbunGame
@ScorbunGame 10 месяцев назад
@@KudaGeatsune3821 Bob, by being stubborn and clinging to his toxic belief that only a few "deserve" to be heroes, was the man that broke Buddy's faith in them.
@user-mx4is4fx3c
@user-mx4is4fx3c 10 месяцев назад
I disagree. Buddy was a dumb kid putting himself in danger. Bob was right to send him home and dismiss him
@ScorbunGame
@ScorbunGame 10 месяцев назад
@@user-mx4is4fx3c He should've been more gentle with him then, explained why his line of work is dangerous instead of just dismissing him outright as a annoyance.
@tespenkr9924
@tespenkr9924 10 месяцев назад
"Because he isn't stupid" The rarest line I've heard for describing a villain.
@konnorrose3652
@konnorrose3652 10 месяцев назад
Exactly! Palpetine was smart up till a certain point. But one could argue that’s just the approach to everything. But also. He killed his apprentice. I know it’s a different franchise, but going back to have villains can be stupid at times, syndrome is one of those perfect ones. Up till a certain point. No capes
@itap8880
@itap8880 Месяц назад
Creating a character that consistently surpasses the creator at a real aspect is a challenge. Some aspects are harder to do well than others.
@n19ntendods
@n19ntendods 10 месяцев назад
Fun fact: Syndrome is one of the few Disney characters who shares the same voice actor as both a child and adult!
@Edwinaopt
@Edwinaopt 10 месяцев назад
I didn't think about that
@vwin9112
@vwin9112 10 месяцев назад
Guess puberty didn't really go that way for his voice XD.
@nathancruz9172
@nathancruz9172 10 месяцев назад
Jason Lee
@brainthebrian3690
@brainthebrian3690 10 месяцев назад
And?
@silashurd3597
@silashurd3597 9 месяцев назад
@@nathancruz9172still surprised that that was him
@DecepticonFan21
@DecepticonFan21 10 месяцев назад
Imagine if Syndrome got his costume from Edna and she put a cape in it on purpose
@admama_
@admama_ 10 месяцев назад
wait what
@Mussinsky1839
@Mussinsky1839 10 месяцев назад
Amusing.
@wiidragon7588
@wiidragon7588 10 месяцев назад
she is the main costume creator for heroes. it would make sense that he'd go to her and she'd see he's a bad egg
@Leeloo_the_fox
@Leeloo_the_fox 10 месяцев назад
oh she definitely would have done that. edna had the foresight to put trackers on the incredible's suits, she would definitely know syndrome was no good
@VeryPeeved
@VeryPeeved 10 месяцев назад
Perhaps she gave her reasons for not using capes, and he insisted. So she decided "well, it's in darwin's hands now".
@rafaynoman1180
@rafaynoman1180 10 месяцев назад
Fun fact: In the origional draft of the script Syndrome was meant to be a minor villian, but the writers loved him so much they made him the main villian.
@Darkchao_berserko22
@Darkchao_berserko22 2 месяца назад
Well they definitely made the right choice
@sxatcychan1988
@sxatcychan1988 2 месяца назад
I remember watching that deleted scene on DVD. (Yes, I know I'm old.) Syndrome was originally going to be an exposition-spouting house robber at the beginning of the film.
@ethatsgoodwine5888
@ethatsgoodwine5888 Месяц назад
@@alexvaughan1013Damn bro, you must be fun at parties.
@capncake8837
@capncake8837 Месяц назад
@@alexvaughan1013 You don’t have to make everything about race.
@luv-velvet
@luv-velvet Месяц назад
@@capncake8837dang i hate i missed what was said 💀 y’all made fool delete his comment
@CriticalMaster95
@CriticalMaster95 10 месяцев назад
You forgot to mention another thing: Jason Lee absolutely KILLED it as Syndrome. He sells every aspect of the character, from his comedy, to his narcissism, to his disregard for his cohorts, and to the sadistic glee he takes in being evil. His performance as Syndrome is incredible (no pun intended) and just adds to how great of a villain Syndrome is.
@theserpent8667
@theserpent8667 10 месяцев назад
Guess I'm a sly dog. I got you monologuing! I can't believe it...
@seanchukwuezi3079
@seanchukwuezi3079 10 месяцев назад
His talents are glorified when he is in talented people's hands unlike wonderdog and Alvin and the chipmunks
@winkone101
@winkone101 10 месяцев назад
Now that you mention that, it's funny how Syndrome's death was pure KARMA
@theserpent8667
@theserpent8667 10 месяцев назад
@@winkone101 You know how his cape was the cause of his death and he chose to wear it? The thing about that is that, well THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE!
@occultnightingale1106
@occultnightingale1106 10 месяцев назад
@@seanchukwuezi3079 It's hard for an actor to put out a good performance with a bad script
@dr.c2195
@dr.c2195 10 месяцев назад
Even though Syndrome thinks that he is not a super, he actually is a super. And not only that, but his superpower is the most powerful of them all: super intelligence. He thinks that he is a normal person hating supers but he really is a super hating supers.
@ragg232
@ragg232 10 месяцев назад
Being super smart comes with the weakness of being super emotional. And being smart means you're better at lying to yourself.
@101jir
@101jir 10 месяцев назад
​@@ragg232Being super emotional is not inherent to being super smart, but they do trend together. Did you mean the latter?
@literallya442ndclonetroope5
@literallya442ndclonetroope5 10 месяцев назад
@@ragg232 Just like having super physical attributes also creates a super-want-to-save-lives-with-said-strength.
@seriouspeople123
@seriouspeople123 9 месяцев назад
@@ragg232idk about that, can you explain why?
@101jir
@101jir 9 месяцев назад
@@seriouspeople123 Past a certain IQ (I'd have to look up what it is), mental illness (particularly depression) increases significantly in frequency. I think this is what they meant, but they haven't confirmed.
@kamikazelemming1552
@kamikazelemming1552 10 месяцев назад
One thing I love about Syndrome is how, unlike so many other supervillains from comics, games, and movies, he is constantly improving upon a single plan. The Omnidroid was designed to kill supers, so he built one, and had it fight super after super until one of them succeeded in destroying it. Then, rather than just make a brand new robot with completely different abilities, or just a whole other plan that didn't involve the robot, he smoothed out the flaws of the original, and repeated the process of having it fight supers, again, and again, and again, until he had a machine that was nigh invincible.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 10 месяцев назад
A villain that is actually smart and doesn't just pretend to.
@tunebeat3809
@tunebeat3809 10 месяцев назад
If we think about it, that just make Syndrome all the more dangerous.
@jaredpatterson1701
@jaredpatterson1701 9 месяцев назад
Now if only he applied that concept to his morality and ideals
@scottwendt9575
@scottwendt9575 9 месяцев назад
It was a bit of worldly realism Brad Bird and Pixar used to be known for…. Syndrome would have fit right in at SpaceX! This concept was also jammed into Monsters Inc. About the only thing not based in reality was the concept of scream and the Monsters who captured it. The factory, emphasis on processes, safety protocols and corporate org chart could of come from any manufacturing company in the country.
@bassbusterx
@bassbusterx 9 месяцев назад
​@@HappyBeezerStudios reminds me of the villain of watchmen, not gonna name him due to spoilers
@silverscorpio24
@silverscorpio24 10 месяцев назад
Even in his younger days, Buddy didn't really understand what being a hero was all about. He thought being a superhero was cool and flashy and all about "moves and catchphrases". He wanted the attention and glory. He spent all his time and energy inventing things that *HE* could use and make people think he was a hero, not using his talents to really help people. Granted, he was still a kid and Mr. Incredible didn't handle the situation the best, but you could see that Buddy already had the wrong mindset when it came to superhero work.
@paulocorreia9670
@paulocorreia9670 10 месяцев назад
If mr incredible mentored him he could be the greatest hero ever.
@silverscorpio24
@silverscorpio24 10 месяцев назад
@@paulocorreia9670 Maybe. Maybe not. Mirage pointed out to Syndrome's face his cowardice and narcissism and it didn't change a thing.
@Dingus_Khaan
@Dingus_Khaan 10 месяцев назад
@@silverscorpio24 Mirage also pointed this out when he was already an adult and had been holding onto this mindset and petty grudge for years. A young Buddy would be impressionable enough to be taught not to be a glory hound, but Syndrome had already built that wall.
@silverscorpio24
@silverscorpio24 10 месяцев назад
@@Dingus_Khaan Still didn't occur to him to help the cat out of the tree, despite being in the area and knowing that's what Mr. Incredible would do.
@peterwhite6415
@peterwhite6415 10 месяцев назад
I think one scene that really shows how he doesnt understand what being a Hero is like is when Bob/Mr. Incredible finds Bomb Voyage... Buddy butts in as they are about to throw hands, and pulls Mr Incredible aside to talk. We see in that scene what hes able to do at hes age, but also shows hes serious lack of awareness, especially when theres a Villain in the room... wich also in a way shows how lil Buddy knows about Villains. Youd think such a massive fanboy would know at least who some villains are and what their capable off, but he pretty much ignores Bomb Voyage and barely acknowledges him.
@deadponic117
@deadponic117 10 месяцев назад
one thing to note: when Mr.Incredible tells him to go home, he's holding Bomb Voyage, but when Syndrome retells what happened, Mr.Incredible isn't holding anyone, showing how warped Syndrome's recollection of that moment truely is. Side note: Mr.incredible was being a responsible adult by not taking a kid along to fight crime with him, also i didn't even realize that this comment would get so many likes & comments.
@theguybehindyou4762
@theguybehindyou4762 9 месяцев назад
Didn’t catch that until now
@jaredpatterson1701
@jaredpatterson1701 9 месяцев назад
Probably intentional by the editors to show how delusional Syndrome was.. missing the big picture
@kyndrablankenship1758
@kyndrablankenship1758 9 месяцев назад
I always assumed it was an animation error.
@deadponic117
@deadponic117 9 месяцев назад
@@kyndrablankenship1758 it wasn't i actually went back and rewatched the movie and turns out that is exactly what the director intended.
@kyndrablankenship1758
@kyndrablankenship1758 9 месяцев назад
@@deadponic117 I know that now. I've seen other people comment about it on another video before it got labeled. I'm just saying that's what I used to think as a kid.
@theserpent8667
@theserpent8667 10 месяцев назад
One of the main reasons why he's one of cinema's best villains is because he is created as a direct result of the protagonist's character flaw. Because of Bob's pride and workaholism, he pushes Buddy away, and inadvertently creates his nemesis. Also, he was technically an inevitable villain. Because of his narcissistic personality disorder, he'd probably have kept showing up even if he'd been accepted, and even if Bob had suggested an alternative, Buddy's ego wouldn't allow him to see the reason of it. He *wanted* to be Bob's sidekick, and he wouldn't take no for an answer. So Bob's logical decision to rebuke him cones across as irredeemable slander to him. And because of that, he wanted nothing more than to prove his superiority to the man who rejected his help.
@williehampton3855
@williehampton3855 10 месяцев назад
Couldn't have said it better myself. He's one of the many examples of a twist villain that is actually not good but great!
@StormyStars64
@StormyStars64 10 месяцев назад
Syndrome would never take no for an answer and had the belief of having everything planned out
@davidbrennan3967
@davidbrennan3967 10 месяцев назад
Ultimately, Mr. Incredible rejected him not only because he preferred to work solo, but also that it would have been irresponsible of him to take a child under his wing in a dangerous field of work. His ignorance and unawareness of the danger almost got himself killed by Bomb Voyage had Mr. Incredible not forgone apprehending him to save him, therefore he brought his own misery onto himself. Although Mr. Incredible could have handled it better, he still went far beyond the excuse. So therefore, it's not Bob's fault since rejecting Buddy is the right choice for reasons.
@williehampton3855
@williehampton3855 10 месяцев назад
@@davidbrennan3967 Agreed. Had Mr. Incredible had taken Buddy under his wing, he would've been a terrible sidekick. Always jumping in headfirst into danger and Bob always fishing him out of trouble. And Buddy never learning anything from his mistakes. It would've been a toxic version of Batman and Robin's relationship.
@davidbrennan3967
@davidbrennan3967 10 месяцев назад
@@williehampton3855 Glad to see that you understand the info.
@evil778
@evil778 10 месяцев назад
Another detail is that earlier in the movie, Hellen tells Dash that everyone is special, and he replies with "Which is another way of saying no one's special", which is eerily similar to Syndrome saying that with everyone super, no one is.
@konnorrose3652
@konnorrose3652 10 месяцев назад
I imagine at a different timeline, Dash got so fed up that he actually started thinking more about what syndrome and his actions caused. better yet, if syndrome lived teaming up with him. Since reading your genius, comment, my friend. either him or Jackjack.
@sweethistortea
@sweethistortea Месяц назад
@@konnorrose3652That would have been an interesting idea for a sequel.
@jackinthebox301
@jackinthebox301 Месяц назад
@@sweethistortea Yeah its too bad they never made one.
@lambertopedulla8565
@lambertopedulla8565 10 месяцев назад
"And when everyone's super... No one will be!". As a kid I didn't really understand how utterly genius writing this line is. It encapsulates Syndrome 's entire motivation in a single sentence. The Incredibles is a true masterpiece of filmmaking...
@vylbird8014
@vylbird8014 10 месяцев назад
The line is also very requotable, changing one word. I've seen it more than ones used when discussing the introduction of generative AI models: "When everyone is an artist, no-one is."
@gregorymarengoni1886
@gregorymarengoni1886 10 месяцев назад
After all these years, I have kept on understanding the meaning of this quote.
@thewackykid
@thewackykid 10 месяцев назад
​@@vylbird8014yeah.. another variation is "when everyone is special.. then no one is.."
@Apex_Yonko
@Apex_Yonko 9 месяцев назад
@@vylbird8014that example doesn’t work
@clownworld4655
@clownworld4655 9 месяцев назад
That line describes progressive ideology as well. When everyone is smart, beautiful, perfect, etc. no one is
@randomspider725
@randomspider725 10 месяцев назад
Another interesting facet to Syndrome’s character is that he’s essentially a fan who feels entitled to his idol’s work, and when he doesn’t get what he wants, he feels like extreme behavior is justified. For a real-world parallel, imagine if [insert toxic fandom here] had access to murder robots.
@zacharybosley1935
@zacharybosley1935 9 месяцев назад
Oh shit, this same fuckin story is covered in Across the Spider-verse
@asdasdasdasd61932
@asdasdasdasd61932 8 месяцев назад
Spot had a glow up at the end lol
@zacharybosley1935
@zacharybosley1935 8 месяцев назад
@@asdasdasdasd61932 more of a breakdown imo
@iceburgess461
@iceburgess461 4 месяца назад
No
@mrcritical6751
@mrcritical6751 3 месяца назад
I dunno, in Spot’s case it was kind of a justified want for vengeance. Miles did inadvertently ruin his life when he blew up that supercollider, Spot had every right to be pissed at him. Honestly it was more on Miles for not trying to help the poor guy who admitted in front of him that he’d been forced into a life of crime because he’d been rejected by society, instead just making jokes about him and treating him like a joke villain when it’s clear he was just a desperate man trying to survive using powers he didn’t even understand
@Aceofwolves
@Aceofwolves 10 месяцев назад
Syndromes line "you got me monologuing" is in the offical list of 100 greatest movie lines of all time.
@BenjaminHull-mw1dv
@BenjaminHull-mw1dv Месяц назад
The best part is that he doesn’t monologue anymore until all of the incredibles are caught.
@cr8618
@cr8618 4 дня назад
@@BenjaminHull-mw1dvomgggg wow
@Jackie-McCann
@Jackie-McCann 10 месяцев назад
As a few other people have pointed out, it was a particularly clever bookend to his character that what had nearly (and foolishly) cost Syndrome his life all those years ago was ultimately what did him in at the end; his failure to realize until it was too late that his cape was an occupational hazard whilst emulating (or even trying to surpass) a hero who _never wore a cape to begin with._
@twelved4983
@twelved4983 9 месяцев назад
It’s been speculated that Syndrome actually visited Edna Mode and asked for a suit. However, if that’s the case, then it’s further speculated that Edna could see how dark Syndrome’s heart was, how he really didn’t have any good intent. As a result, she gave him a suit *with a cape* since she knew that’s what most killed supers (to her deep regret).
@geoffreyedgson7875
@geoffreyedgson7875 9 месяцев назад
Good observation. Plus simple with a lot of further details. Buddy Pine, when anything did not occur as he mentally envisioned or desired, would reject or habitually ignore such details. 1)his last encounter with Mr. Incredible as a kid was at the train crash; not the bank vault. How much bad fall-out happened from the train accident from the bomb stuck to his cape, which he never clicked? 2) Syndrome idolized “supers” to the point of emulating them in the most dramatic fashion possible. He’s a sociopath and an overgrown 10 year-old. Just basic research into ways to kill supers to build the Omnidroid would identify how so many were crippled or killed by capes. Heck, the Omnidroid might have used a cape to kill some, yet Syndrome still kept a cape believing “they are supers, I am Syndrome.” 3) when Mr. Incredible was caught, Buddy ignored any chance the plane Helen flew wasn’t connected to him, and after Mirage was nearly killed Syndrome was genuinely bewildered why she was angry. He cann’t mentally Process anything other than his own assumptions.
@rus0004
@rus0004 Месяц назад
@@geoffreyedgson7875 About point 3: Buddy knew that Helen's plane was there for Bob. He knew that a transmission of some kind came from Bob, and a few hours later, a government plane entered his airspace. Of course, anyone in Bob's position would have denied knowledge of any distress call, and if Bob hadn't slipped, Buddy might have decided to just maintain radio silence. But when Bob said Helen's name upon hearing the radio transmission, it confirmed that, not only were they here to aid him, but it was someone he knew personally, and that he could kill two birds with one stone; removing the intruder, and adding to the torment of Mr Incredible.
@bradleyhauertheedtruncanfa5020
@bradleyhauertheedtruncanfa5020 10 месяцев назад
Syndrome is easily Pixar's most evil villain of all time. While he's not my favorite Pixar villain, I can't deny that he is an incredible (pun intended) villain and is well-written.
@minecrafter3448
@minecrafter3448 10 месяцев назад
I actually think that title goes to hopper. He’s evil solely for the sake of being evil, with no real cause or goal, other than a pathetically small amount of self satisfaction and a tiny bit of gain in that he can be lazy the rest of his life.
@bradleyhauertheedtruncanfa5020
@bradleyhauertheedtruncanfa5020 10 месяцев назад
@@minecrafter3448 Nah. Hopper has one redeeming quality, which is that he kept his promise to his mom on her deathbed to not kill Molt. Syndrome's excuse however does not justify his actions. He may have gotten rejected from being a super, but does that really justify luring over a dozen superheroes to his lair and killing them by having them fight his Omnidroids and shooting missiles at Elastigirl's plane with her children aboard?
@minecrafter3448
@minecrafter3448 10 месяцев назад
@@bradleyhauertheedtruncanfa5020 some other candidates include: lotso, Ernesto de lacruz, (forgive my butchered spelling) and (forgive me for bringing up the name of the worst villain in cinema history) miles axelrod
@bradleyhauertheedtruncanfa5020
@bradleyhauertheedtruncanfa5020 10 месяцев назад
@@minecrafter3448 Lotso and Miles "Terrible Villain" Axelrod are an easy 2nd and 3rd place for most evil Pixar villain.
@davidbrennan3967
@davidbrennan3967 10 месяцев назад
@@bradleyhauertheedtruncanfa5020 Hopper did stated that if he hadn't promised, he would kill Molt as he wanted but couldn't.
@MacabreMole
@MacabreMole 10 месяцев назад
He also is completely unbothered by finding out there are children on the aircraft he has sent hostile fire at. Mirage is horrified when Helen radios that there are children aboard, but we don't actually see Syndrome until he tells Bob "Aw, you'll get over it. I seem to recall you prefer to "work alone."" Mirage has a shaking voice and is clearly distressed just delivering the news they've confirmed the target was destroyed. Yet Syndrome is totally unmoved and just laughs in his face over it. His power play with Mirage directly after doesn't seem as emotionless to me. He seems thrilled to see how far he might have pushed Bob, while trusting that he is too good to kill anyone purposefully/in revenge - tho it does seem as if he doesn't mind losing her if it nets him getting to see his hero go evil. Which I think is why he gets so frustrated with him and calls him weak and pathetic. He was disappointed yet again by Mr. Incredible.
@RJALEXANDER777
@RJALEXANDER777 9 месяцев назад
I'm not letting Mirage off the hook. She was an accessory to murder, who enabled Syndrome to kill dozens of superheroes, and who knows how many civilians when the robot was sent to attack the city. I'm assuming she gave every hero the same brief about the Omnidroid, she was able to look those men and women in the eyes and smile before sending them off to their deaths. Sure she was regretful about blowing the plane out the sky, but she did nothing to stop it. She only truly turns against Syndrome when he demonstrates that he doesn't value her life either. I feel like Mirage is a character that doesn't entirely get fleshed out, all she really says about herself is that she's "attracted to power". Mirage serves her purpose as a plot device but as a character she's not too deep, maybe more could've been done with her.
@MacabreMole
@MacabreMole 9 месяцев назад
@@RJALEXANDER777 I wholeheartedly agree, I think it might have been the first thing close enough for her to feel any level of emotion towards her victims. I think everything else has been through screens but she had to be in close proximity to someone experiencing the consequences of her actions here and that seemed to jar her. She still had something within her to be good. But yes she is tragically unexplored.
@fullmetalgamer6062
@fullmetalgamer6062 9 месяцев назад
I do wonder why Mirage pushed Syndrome out of the way before getting grabbed by Mr. Incredible.
@crazyscotsman9327
@crazyscotsman9327 9 месяцев назад
@@fullmetalgamer6062 I think she thought that Syndrome would actually try to save her. And that Mirage thought they both had a real loving relationship. Because Syndrome could have just unlocked the thing and Bob would have let her go. But when Syndrome was willing to risk her life on a furious grieving father's restraint. She knew he did not actually love her.
@carolinavelluto
@carolinavelluto 8 месяцев назад
@@fullmetalgamer6062 i understood that she likes him .
@self-absorbed5269
@self-absorbed5269 10 месяцев назад
The real problem with Syndrome is that he only wants glory. The combination of achievement and praise that comes with heroism. He doesn't really care about morality , just approval. He needed a dad that Mr. Incredible could not be , even to his own kids for a good while.
@elsakristina2689
@elsakristina2689 9 месяцев назад
“I’ve finally figured out who I am: I am your ward!” The fact that Buddy/Syndrome uses that word specifically really shows how much he likely saw Mr. Incredible as a father figure to him since for all we know he probably has either a bad father or an absent or unknown father, and it adds even more depth to why he took Mr. Incredible’s rejection as such a deep, personal and life-changing betrayal.
@HasufelyArod
@HasufelyArod 2 месяца назад
All people idolizing or loving a singer, celebrity, actor or whatever need to understand this. And they are complete morons if they don't realize their idols need privacy too.
@ScrambledAndBenedict
@ScrambledAndBenedict 10 месяцев назад
The thing I love the most about Syndrome is how he still acts as childish as he did as buddy. He geeks out over Bob's escape, his "You gotta admit this is COOL!" line, and stuff like that. For as much as he's changed and become such a horrid villain, he's still that exact same kid he was that day he tried to be Incrediboy. Not only does it make him fun, but it shows just how completely lost in the past he is: he hasn't matured a day and is still that same immature kid just now twisted to evil.
@felixleong61
@felixleong61 Месяц назад
Same Immature kid with a lot of money lol
@coldfire-blitz3122
@coldfire-blitz3122 9 месяцев назад
The line "After All... I *am* your biggest fan" was so perfect that even 6 year old me was amazed and grasped the threat and got the reveal. So chilling, especially when paired with Mr Incredibles face as he is realizing it at the same time
@TheFacelessStoryMaker
@TheFacelessStoryMaker 9 месяцев назад
I feel like Syndrome DID have powers which was his intelligence. As a kid he made rocket propelled boots and designed a line of machines to systematically kill every superhero that visited his island.
@zacharygilmore1075
@zacharygilmore1075 10 месяцев назад
I loved this video analysis, but I’d like to point out a couple of things that you missed. In Syndrome’s flashback when Mr. Incredible said, “Fly home Buddy”, you said that he remembered it perfectly. However, he didn’t remember that Bomb Voyage was there as well, instead thinking that Mr. Incredible’s attention was entirely on him. Mr. Incredible also had plenty of reasons to reject Buddy. Their first interaction in the movie showed that that was far from their first encounter, with Buddy appearing to be more of an obsessed fan stalking a celebrity. He even breaks into the guy’s car. So it’s no wonder why Mr. Incredible brushed him off so quickly.
@teresaw2028
@teresaw2028 10 месяцев назад
I agree! Furthermore, it wasn't like Mr. Incredible completely disregarded Buddy altogether, otherwise he wouldn't have tried to save him when that Bomb Voyage bomb was attached to his cape. Buddy could have realized that, but instead his only care was that Mr. Incredible was "ruining how good he looked" (omg... I just realized what incredible foreshadowing that scene was to his demise at the end 😱)
@davidbrennan3967
@davidbrennan3967 10 месяцев назад
Also, when he recalled on how Mr. Incredible treated him that time, he omitted Bomb Voyage's presence and made his quote ("Fly home, Buddy. I work alone.") in a condescending tone rather than for his own good.
@Katerine459
@Katerine459 10 месяцев назад
Just to add yet another reason, I don't remember this being explicitly stated, but it's definitely there in the character design: Buddy was, like, 12. He legitimately had no business getting into dangerous activities with a superhero. Bob was just being responsible in trying to send Buddy home.
@RetroPhantomFrog
@RetroPhantomFrog 10 месяцев назад
Also it said that bob had sign all of his all of his posters. Meaning Bob was nice to him when they first met but Buddy kept on pushing and pushing becoming a stalker
@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511
@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511 10 месяцев назад
​@@davidbrennan3967y olvido la parte de la bomba sino fuera por bob buddy habría muerto
@Rediscool9
@Rediscool9 10 месяцев назад
The fact that they followed up this legend of a villain with the Screenslaver is one of the primary reasons why Incredibles 2 was so disappointing.
@palladiamorsdeus
@palladiamorsdeus 10 месяцев назад
You mean Incredibles 1.5?
@jmaster4941
@jmaster4941 9 месяцев назад
I disagree a tad. Screenslaver itself was an interesting concept because the character seemed to embody and weaponize the idea of how interconnected we are to mass media and sensationalism. Revealing Screenslaver as Evelyn was the disappointing part. They took a somewhat interesting villain concept and tossed it out in favor of a terrible "twist" trope that Disney had been overusing.
@ceddavis7441
@ceddavis7441 9 месяцев назад
​@@jmaster4941 personally I think it plays into the themes a bit more. The twist definitely could've been handled better, however the twist that the screenslaver we knew was a puppet is a really good representation of how some are able to hide a face behind screens really well. Playing into the idea that alot of what we see on the screen is carefully picked to mislead us into a different direction.
@jmaster4941
@jmaster4941 9 месяцев назад
@@ceddavis7441 I'll give you that but I wish Screenslaver itself was the actual villain regardless.
@mrcritical6751
@mrcritical6751 8 месяцев назад
Screenslaver’s design was awesome and it sucks he was only really in one scene. The concept of a villain who’s pissed off about humanity’s reliance on televised entertainment and wants to use it to control the minds of humanity is an interesting one, that speech he gives about it is genuinely kinda chilling and paints an interesting picture, but then Evelyn is the villain and we never even see The Screenslaver costume again
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 2 месяца назад
I am in love with the line "and when everyone's super, no one will be." It is such a diabolical plan that makes him so different from any other villain. He plans to destroy the very idea, the very concept of superheroes beyond repair. If his plan succeeded the very definition of a superhero would change in society. Making the very idea of your enemies into something they themselves hate, is so much more than simply killing them and the things they love. Another detail that people never catch is during the “Fly home buddy, I work alone” scene, we see Bob confronting and dealing with Bomb Voyage, yet in Buddy’s perspective and flashback, we just see Mr. Incredible denying and turning him down in a freshly lit room for no good reason. This really lets us know that Syndrome’s obsession with Mr. Incredible is so far off the deep end that he forgot why he liked and idolized Mr. Incredible in the first place, being a superhero. Love how Syndrome is the representation of being greater, stronger, smarter, wicked...but not better. We should try to be better that the people who hurts us in some ways, using this skills in our favor, but yeah, Syndrome was too attached to the past, so full of resentment that makes it his flaw, but he did taught Mr. Incredible a lesson: what he was becoming by not getting over the past, and that's a parallelism I never thought about until this video! Even his death was poetic and huge!
@SparkpadArt
@SparkpadArt 10 месяцев назад
I don't think Bob was explicitly looking down on Buddy for not having powers. If anything, he was concerned for the boy's safety, since he didn't seem to understand how dangerous it is to be a superhero. Indeed, Bomb Voyage takes advantage of this naiveté when he slips a bomb on Buddy's cape (foreshadowing much?), since he knows Mr. Incredible would drop everything to save an innocent life. Nevertheless, Buddy _thinks_ it's about powers, and it's this misunderstanding that motivates Syndrome to make supers obsolete with his technology.
@PopeDuwang
@PopeDuwang 10 месяцев назад
I agree. There’s a time and place to prove yourself to be a Hero and showing off your Rocket Boots during a Super Villain capture isn’t one of them. Buddy endangered not only himself but others (since his stunt led to the bombing of that railroad track) because he wanted to impress Mr. Incredible. Buddy was a False Hero from the start. A Hero that cares more about the Fame and Glory aren’t Heroes. Bob did care about his glory days but it was because he felt like he was making a difference whether it was saving a Cat or stopping a Robbery or stopping a Bomb Terrorist or preventing a Suicide. Hell, he choked his former boss when he prevented him from saving a Life while telling him how he needs to ruin lives at his job so they do better as a company.
@levievil9220
@levievil9220 10 месяцев назад
@@PopeDuwanghell he even gave advice to the people who’s lives he was supposed to ruin bob ain’t exactly the best person but he knows at least when to be a decent enough guy to help hell he even helps a old lady and she played along probably knowing what he’s telling her isn’t something he should which good on her
@flowerbloom5782
@flowerbloom5782 18 дней назад
Bob tone was off but understandable. I mean you have a kid you told off multiple times wanting to show off during a terrorist situation. Syndrome was too young and hurt to see that and warped his worldview.
@TheHManShow
@TheHManShow 10 месяцев назад
Syndrome went from a overzealous psycho fan kid, to an annoying man child, to proving to be a real genius and genuine threat!
@Im-BAD-at-satire
@Im-BAD-at-satire 10 месяцев назад
He's a genius with zero-wisdom.
@TheManWhoLived800YearsAgo
@TheManWhoLived800YearsAgo 10 месяцев назад
I once saw Syndrome on a Mid-Disney villains list and I was deeply disappointed by people's taste in villains
@yuri-sama.questionmark
@yuri-sama.questionmark 10 месяцев назад
If Ellen Endeavor was on top of their list before Syndrome I would be disappointed too
@hispanicwitch4929
@hispanicwitch4929 10 месяцев назад
Brad Bird's two main villains, Kent Mansley and Syndrome, show us that persons who don't really have anything, or very little, to lose are the most dangerous of all, because they'd do anything to get what they want. Also, I love how The Incredibles is a movie that improves, like, a billion times, once you re-watch it as an adult (just like The Iron Giant). Brad Bird is another director which prove that Guillermo del Toro's "Animation is cinema, not a genre" is, as a matter of fact, 100 % right. Sidenote: the most sinister and evil thing about Syndrome is that he is completely fine with murdering children. He is so dilluded in his idea of revenge against Mr Incredible that when Hellen says through her headphones that there are children on board the plane (being Violet and Dash), Mirage is absolutely horrified, but Syndrome is like "yeah, whatever".
@knightofkorbin888
@knightofkorbin888 10 месяцев назад
I took it as he actually didn't believe a rescue jet would have children on it. I didn't assume he knew or believed what little evidence he was given.
@hispanicwitch4929
@hispanicwitch4929 10 месяцев назад
@@knightofkorbin888 This, tbh.
@sydney8631
@sydney8631 4 месяца назад
​@@hispanicwitch4929 I'm kinda curious about this, but can I hear your thoughts about Kent mansley? I know you mentioned him, but I'm still curious.
@meta527II
@meta527II 10 месяцев назад
I agree, he really is a good villain, and he deserves the praise he gets.
@cerulee
@cerulee 10 месяцев назад
The hero's hubris creating the villain, and the villain's hubris leading to his own demise is just 👌
@tashahemlock8195
@tashahemlock8195 10 месяцев назад
Aside from the Omnidroid needed to be destroyed by itself, it was also another part of his downfall cause he made the Omnidroid TOO smart and adaptive as once it realized that Syndrome had the remote for it, it quickly turned on its creator and fired at him in a attempt to blast off the remote so it can continue to rampage.
@joeleboeuf
@joeleboeuf 10 месяцев назад
Sometimes, the worst types of villains, are the ones created by their own heroes.
@gabrielmarrero2763
@gabrielmarrero2763 10 месяцев назад
He’s easily the most entertaining Pixar villain. He’s an amazing character.
@Mabra51
@Mabra51 10 месяцев назад
Syndrome got you monologuing.
@epicrotfl7017
@epicrotfl7017 9 месяцев назад
The biggest tragedy with Syndrome’s story is that he actually does have a super power. He’s a super genius but nobody ever realized it, not even himself.
@karmore17076
@karmore17076 10 месяцев назад
Buddy worshipped Mr Incredible until his hurtful remarks got to him and made him what he is now, He learned that people don’t take you seriously until you’re a threat to them. He didn’t understand that being a hero doesn’t mean getting praised or famous for it.
@brendaspence1824
@brendaspence1824 8 месяцев назад
I’ll play devils advocate.bob could have mentored him and attempted to help him understand the true purpose of a hero
@HasufelyArod
@HasufelyArod 2 месяца назад
There's a difference between not being taken seriously and putting out of harm's way, which was what Mr Incredible was doing when he "rejected" Buddy. He, Mr Incredible, was being a responsible adult by not taking a literal child to fight crime, which is in itself a life-threatening occupation. Mr Incredible did a better job than Batman in letting children fight the crime.
@thomasdasilva1464
@thomasdasilva1464 10 месяцев назад
I realized upon rewatching the film that one of the reasons Syndrome's reveal as Buddy is so shocking is because the film pays him as little attention as Mr. Incredible does at the start - both the viewer and Mr. Incredible are blindsided by how this seemingly unimportant event from the past has led to the development of this genius, entrepreneurial terrorist.
@GodatLobs47
@GodatLobs47 8 месяцев назад
It’s crazy how syndrome came back 14 years later, and tried to kill him
@angelica_animations
@angelica_animations 2 месяца назад
Something I noticed when watching, is that when Syndrom kidnapped Jack Jack he says "Who knows, maybe he'll make a great sidekick one day" is pretty disturbing knowing his backstory
@jdsimmons97
@jdsimmons97 5 месяцев назад
I swear Syndrome would thrive in the MHA based on his inventions alone. Whether he's a superhero or villain. And Stain would thrive in the Incredibles world.
@andecidreweye
@andecidreweye 10 месяцев назад
Syndrome is basically the definition of taking jealousy too far
@HasufelyArod
@HasufelyArod 2 месяца назад
Nah, and yeah. More than just jealousy, it's also obsession causing the sufferer to take things beyond far. He's an insane fan idolizing a celebrity.
@N3gro74
@N3gro74 9 месяцев назад
Syndrome's line "And when everyone is super, no one will be" is unironically one of the best lines I've heard from any villain in media.
@tappajaav
@tappajaav 9 месяцев назад
"Unironically"?
@Pudding404
@Pudding404 10 месяцев назад
Syndrome had character development in a sense that he pushed himself to improve his inventions by being repeatedly rejected by his idol, but at the same time, didn't, because he never let it go.
@marianxendor3974
@marianxendor3974 10 месяцев назад
What really stands out about Syndrome for me is just how iconic he was. Extremely recognizable design, great voice acting and characterization, and specially unforgettable lines and dialogue. Imo a modern classic villain
@zachandersmith8131
@zachandersmith8131 10 месяцев назад
If any good came from Syndrome's actions, it's that they helped set Mr. Incredible on the right path by showing what he could've become if he let his obsession with the past control him.
@Makise3
@Makise3 10 месяцев назад
Syndrome could have become the greatest hero of all time and accomplishing things that no other hero could ever do. The man literally could have changed the entire world for the better and vastly improved everybody’s lives.
@davidbraccini4770
@davidbraccini4770 10 месяцев назад
When The Incredibles was in pre-production there was a deleted intro where Syndrom actually tries to kill a newly married Mr incredible and his family. Originally there was a villain who was supposed to be Mrs Incredible ex boyfriend but then since Sydrom was liked so much by the executives they decided to make Syndrom the main villain. Also I don’t think that Syndrom, even as a kid, wanted to be a hero to save people but more to flex mussles towards a crowd of people and his favorite hero. While Mr Incredible recognizes that it was a mistake to always think for himself and to work alone, I do not think he was wrong into rejecting Syndrom since he probably was intelligent enough to understand that the kid was unprepared and wanted only fame. If Syndrom wanted to be a hero he could have just asked to be trained, not pretend to immediately become his sidekick in dangerous situations because he is good in creating new technologies.
@davidbrennan3967
@davidbrennan3967 10 месяцев назад
Exactly.
@levievil9220
@levievil9220 10 месяцев назад
Hell if he did ask he probably would’ve gotten a job as a mechanic for super hero’s who uses tech kinda like the guy who fixes suits in the marvel comics except only for good guys
@bacongaming1353
@bacongaming1353 9 месяцев назад
It’s spelled: Syndrome. There’s a fucking E at the end.
@deinonychus1948
@deinonychus1948 9 месяцев назад
@@levievil9220 I mean, if he put his knowledge to good use; at the very least, he'd be Disney's Iron Man and at most, he could produce combat armour, weapons and/or vehicles for every Super! He could give Elastigirl a suit that gave her resistance to cold temperatures; one of the few weaknesses she has, along with a bike that could connect to her body, allowing her to more finely control her movements when at the wheel, or he could give any fire based Super a suit/gauntlets/mask/visor (depending on how the fire is produced) that helped focus their flames to reduce collateral damage while increasing the power output when used on a Supervillain He could also build special weapons that helped combat other rogue heroes to keep the public's fears in check... but no, he chose revenge...
@levievil9220
@levievil9220 9 месяцев назад
@@deinonychus1948 he’s basically be a good tinkerer if he didn’t immediately go for revenge (spider-man villain makes gadgets for a gang)
@The_onset_tutor
@The_onset_tutor 4 месяца назад
The fact that his voice actor Jason Lee was also in Scientology at the time kind of makes this villain even darker.
@ambiguousreptilian4624
@ambiguousreptilian4624 10 месяцев назад
Ok, don't mind me but, I'm a minute in but I had a moment where I was like, the cape on Syndrome's suit is like a metaphor for the fact that he never could be a true hero because good quality heroes don't where capes.
@johnsantos507
@johnsantos507 10 месяцев назад
Even villains don't wear capes too.
@konnorrose3652
@konnorrose3652 10 месяцев назад
@@johnsantos507 fair enough. But also. Superman, Batman would like to have a word. probably a few others but I’m not listing all of them. 😂
@johnsantos507
@johnsantos507 10 месяцев назад
@@konnorrose3652 Not just those 2 characters, all Marvel and DC characters have capes. Batgirl, Batwoman, Red Robin(Tim Drake), Robin(Damian Wayne), Shazam, Black Adam, Doctor Fate, Supergirl, Powergirl, Martian Manhunter, Raven, Thor, Moon Knight, Doctor Strange, Doctor Doom, Magneto, Black Panther, Cloak, Spider-Man 2099 and Baron Mordo and Loki.
@johnsantos507
@johnsantos507 10 месяцев назад
@@konnorrose3652 Oh yeah. I forgot. Vision and Scarlet Witch are also wearing capes.
@konnorrose3652
@konnorrose3652 10 месяцев назад
@@johnsantos507 I got hit hard. I didn’t realize so many characters wore capes, even the wizards. Sorry about that. I’m fully blind, so I don’t see any of the character designs. Even though I love both universes to death. I just figured that some of them didn’t wear them.
@n19ntendods
@n19ntendods 10 месяцев назад
Even tho I don’t love The Incredibles that much, I still think Syndrome is an *incredible* villain and easily the best part of the film. He was just this quirky, naive, energetic fanboy obsessed with Mr Incredible. He only ever wanted to be his sidekick, but was denied the opportunity, due to the latter preferring to work alone. After an incident which resulted in him getting arrested by his hero, he became consumed by rage and aggression, swearing to get revenge on his idol by perfecting his Omnidroid by having supers fight multiple revisions, and get revenge on Mr. Incredible for shunning and rejecting him by become a "hero" in the eyes of the public and make superheroes widespread by selling his technology to render "real" superheroes useless and destroy the entire concept of them. having them killed in the process. “And when everyone’s super… *no one will be.* OMG, that’s such a brilliant line!
@davidbrennan3967
@davidbrennan3967 10 месяцев назад
Uh, he was never a good person at heart for real. Even as a child, he thought that being a hero was all about fighting bad guys and not saving people. Essentially, Syndrome just cared for the "Super" part and not for the "Hero" one. This was proven when Syndrome tells Mr. Incredible that all he wanted is to help him, a flashback of Syndrome's memory is seen and the terrorist Bomb Voyage is absent from his mind. Therefore, although Mr. Incredible could have treated him better, perhaps even if Mr. Incredible had not rejected him, he would either still become a villain eventually, or at least an anti-hero as his reckless nature aside, Buddy's self-serving nature made him unworthy of being a hero. To be fair, however, he was a kid at the time, so he may not have understood what being a superhero really meant, though despite this, he didn't realize as he grew up that Mr. Incredible wasn't in the wrong, and even if he didn't want to forgive Mr. Incredible for his harsh treatment on him, that didn't justify going after supers who had nothing to do with his rejection. villains.fandom.com/wiki/Syndrome pure-evil-villains.fandom.com/wiki/Syndrome
@christianbell8347
@christianbell8347 10 месяцев назад
Why don't you like the Incredibles? Opinion disregarded.
@n19ntendods
@n19ntendods 10 месяцев назад
@@christianbell8347I don’t dislike it. I still like it. It’s just that family dramas aren’t really my thing. But I love the superhero aspect.
@christianbell8347
@christianbell8347 10 месяцев назад
@@n19ntendods I'm afraid that's not good enough. You must start loving it. I'll give you 4 weeks to start rewatching it until it finally clicks with you. Get to it!
@kiarawolfe4723
@kiarawolfe4723 9 месяцев назад
​@@n19ntendodscareful we have another "buddy" in chat
@toplaycool21
@toplaycool21 10 месяцев назад
There’s a complexity to Syndrome and the writing for his character arc was brilliant. I love his development and connection to Mr. Incredible.
@DragonologyStudent
@DragonologyStudent 9 месяцев назад
I think one thing that makes his character more tragic also is that he actually is a super. He might not have physical abilities, but his powerful intellect and mechanical prowess at such a young age should have raised some eyebrows, gotten him into either a genious program or even celebrated as a young super. But because it's not as obvious as laser eyes or fying, it's all ignored. No wonder he lacks any self value
@Edwinaopt
@Edwinaopt 10 месяцев назад
It always made me sad how Mr incredible treated him in the beginning. It's proof that your actions effect people and thier futures. Great video! My favorite hero in the family is Mrs incredible!
@kallemattiwaris2422
@kallemattiwaris2422 10 месяцев назад
Ironically, just one of his inventions, Zero-point energy, would have represented a 1000 year leap in technology and in general humankind's progression.
@TheAzulmagia
@TheAzulmagia 10 месяцев назад
I'm going to have to contest one point you made: I dont think Mr. Incredible rejected him because of bias. It's clear from Buddy's first scene that his obsession has taken him to the point of stalking and other behaviors that Mr. Incredible is tired of dealing with. So while Buddy is gifted, his inability to respect boundaries is the cause of frictio, not his lack of ingrained abilities. Granted, Buddy no doubt BELIEVES that he was rejected because of a lack of natural ability.
@Rockotarthepurplehatguy
@Rockotarthepurplehatguy 10 месяцев назад
I still think that Mr. Incredible was far too harsh and refused to see Buddy's perspective, instead he chose to insult and belittle him rather than respectfully turn him down.
@TheAzulmagia
@TheAzulmagia 10 месяцев назад
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy Oh yeah, I think the film would agree that Mr. Incredible is at least partially in the wrong for how he handled the situation. Granted, we don't have a full picture of his interactions with Buddy, but I always got the vibe that he never really just sat down and leveled with the kid, instead just letting his frustrations boil over.
@alexysspowell9710
@alexysspowell9710 6 месяцев назад
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy I kind of have to disagree with you about Mr. Incredible being too harsh. Just with Buddy’s intro in the first couple minutes of the movie, you can tell this isn’t Their first interaction. Bob knows this kid is kind of crazy and isn’t going to stop with his shenanigans. I would like to assume Bob had conversations with Buddy and tried to let him down gently but Buddy wasn’t hearing it. Again he was a kid and kids don’t always see what adults are trying to get at but somebody NEEDED to be firm with Buddy.
@heatzeeker1320
@heatzeeker1320 10 месяцев назад
I loved Syndrome. He was evil and a genius but still a fan boy of heroes even though he wants to destroy them. He was super charismatic and funny. His design is amazing as well.
@n19ntendods
@n19ntendods 10 месяцев назад
I’ll never be able to wrap my head around the fact that Sydrome is played by Dave Seville from the live-action Alvin and the Chipmunks movies. 😳😳😳 “ALVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!”
@phousefilms
@phousefilms 10 месяцев назад
Some things in this can show that Buddy is not fully in his right mind. Similar to Mysterio/Beck in "Far From Home", the flashback takes out parts of the context of the scene. Beck sees the audience laugh at Tony Stark calling his technology "BARF"in "Civil War", when the audience didn't laugh in the actual movie. Buddy ignores the fact that Bob was busy with Bomb Voyage and instead has Mr.Incredible just walk away.
@bigbangbot-SuperSqank
@bigbangbot-SuperSqank 10 месяцев назад
Great analysis as always. The Incredibles in general is a true masterpiece and another aspect about Syndrome which is really well done is how they introduce him. At the beginning of the movie, you see Incrediboy and then the movies disposes of him. The cops take him home and the movie jumps forward in time. You don't know what happened to him and it's possible that you forget about him completely, just like Mr Incredible did. Most of the other characters during the opening (outside of the main cast) end up disappearing for the rest of the movie so it is logical to think the same happened with Incrediboy. But then Mr Incredible takes his job to Nomanisan Island and we learn that while Mirage is taking him under her wing, there is a big boss behind the whole operation. We know nothing about this big boss whatsoever. When we learn about the Omnidroid for the first time, the movie gives us a fake and rather cliche story but for all we know, that is the story behind the Omnidroid. We don't know the real story and it is the kind of story we've heard many times before, so we just roll with it. But then after Mr. Incredible beats the Omnidroid, we get our first glimpse at Syndrome. We still know nothing about him but we do briefly see him in the shadows. But if you pay close attention, you may recognise his voice and think "wait, is that a grown up Incrediboy"? You don't know for sure as the movie draws no attention to it but it is something you might wonder. And then when Syndrome is revealed, things begin to add up. We truly find out who he is and we find out what happened to Incrediboy after that day with Mr Incredible all those years ago. It all makes sense and it feels satisfying as the movie set it up earlier but it also did not make it blatantly obvious either. We learn how Syndrome felt after the events happened and we get a glimpse of what he ultimately became because of his past experiences. It is set up so well and the payoff is so strong and satisfying, making complete sense. But even with that, we don’t learn a lot about Syndrome’s plan and little do we know at the time, Syndrome has done and will do a lot more than we are aware of. But later, we get that one scene in the computer room, one of the greatest scenes not just in the movie but in animation history. Here, we learn that what Syndrome has done is so much worse than what we could have imagined. The movie did actually already elude to Syndrome's greater scheme earlier on. We see Gazerbeam at Mr Incredible's wedding and we later learn that he went missing. After Mr. Incredible's encounter with Syndrome, he finds a dead Gazerbeam, which not only confirms to us what happened to him but it also shows us that there is more to Syndrome's plan than what we thought. And then this computer room scene reveals all of it. It shows us the sheer extent of what Syndrome has done, with Syndrome doing much more than we could have imagined (even if you already picked up on Gazerbeam earlier on). The man eliminated so many supers via the Omnidroids, and it just goes to show us just how dangerous this man truly is. Combine this with the impeccable music and cinematography and you truly have an incredible scene which manages to elevate the movie further. The scene is near exclusively visual but it manages to further its story and characters in an extremely powerful way despite that. A true cinematic achievement if you ask me And then later on in the movie, we of course get to see more of Syndrome, learn more about his plan and get a better understanding of the kind of person he has become, which continues all the way until his demise at the end of the movie. Syndrome is just such an ingenious villain, being set up in a powerful way while also being a highly complex and enjoyable character. They got everything right with Syndrome and the Incredibles in general is a movie that got everything right. Easily a contender for the best movie Pixar has ever made, the best superhero movie and even the best animated movie. It is truly an Incredible movie with an Incredible villain. It's just a massive shame that Incredibles 2 fumbled so hard with its villain.
@PeteFredrickson
@PeteFredrickson 10 месяцев назад
Syndrome is definitely one of the best animated movie villains imo
@thebe_stone
@thebe_stone 10 месяцев назад
I read the title as "Why Syndrome is an Incredibles Villain" and just clicked out of confusion, because obviously he's an Incredibles villain.
@RozayMalikOG
@RozayMalikOG 2 месяца назад
Same😂🙏🏽💯✔️
@rainbownote237
@rainbownote237 10 месяцев назад
Syndrome was the best villain ever. No villain could compare to him
@edgaropts5257
@edgaropts5257 10 месяцев назад
I rewatched this movie fairly recently and found it far more mature than I remember.
@elementalmikey7287
@elementalmikey7287 9 месяцев назад
That mech almost folded me 😅
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 2 месяца назад
If you look at the non-super geniuses of the film Edna's a perfect foil for Buddy. She's a highly intelligent woman who most likely faced discrimination for her dwarfism and has no 'super' ability to speak of but rather than being petty over her lacking physical abilities Edna uses her gifts to make sure the people who are out there fighting in ways she cannot do so as safely as possible. Also, unlike Syndrome who is stuck on the past Edna always looked to new ventures/future possibilities. As she says in the movie to Bob, "I never look back, it distracts from the now". Even when supers are banned which means the government canceled her main industry Edna reinvented herself as a modiste, having recently been in a fashion show on Milan when Bob visits her. There is also an ironic thing about Syndrome. Syndrome builds a robot that is capable of learning from its past mistakes and deficiencies, but Syndrome never truly did himself. As a kid, his cape was a liability that allowed Bomb Voyage to plant a bomb on him and as an adult his cape was what caused him to get sucked up in the plane turbine. He never fixed his own flaws. I think Mr. Incredible was more concerned about Buddy endangering himself, his inexperience with being a hero and negligence of his own safety rather than having no respect nor admiration for Buddy's courage and determination after all Buddy was still a civilian and didn't know how risky it was to be a Superhero showing how short sighted he was.
@WiFiDown37811
@WiFiDown37811 10 месяцев назад
Syndrome has always been one of my absolute favorite villains. He's so delightfully evil and has fun with his villainy, and given the character is endearing enough, I love gleeful villains who have fun being evil. he has some very quotable lines as well. funnily enough, his most sinister line is "the baby's sleeping". out of context it's really funny to me 🤣
@AmishParadise27
@AmishParadise27 10 месяцев назад
When I watching this video, an ad played after Syndrome said "And when everyone's super...", so it sounded like: "And when everyone's super... every sunset is a sign to eat Reece's"
@brillopower1492
@brillopower1492 10 месяцев назад
I kinda see Syndrome and Titan ("Tighten" from MegaMind) as the same type of character. The nice guy who got artificial super powers, was rejected by the object of his attraction and decided to make that everyone else's problem.
@coffeelover0876
@coffeelover0876 10 месяцев назад
Syndrome is basically Lex Luther & Reverse Flash combined, a brilliant person who is actually has potential to be better at being a hero but is evil out of petty jealously
@Mpiewizard
@Mpiewizard 9 месяцев назад
Something I noticed after watching this film several times as an adult is the way Syndrome yells, “My name is not Buddy!” seems to suggest that Buddy might not have even been his real name, just what Bob thought it was. Meaning that even during the prologue, he was calling the kid the wrong name. I had never interpreted it that way before and for some reason, that added even more nuance to their dynamic for me.
@mrcritical6751
@mrcritical6751 8 месяцев назад
Nah his name is confirmed to be Buddy Pine I believe, Syndrome is just overly obsessed with his superhero/villain identities that he flat out rejects his real name
@learn2chillax
@learn2chillax 10 месяцев назад
One of my favorite theories about Syndrome is the possibility that his parents were Supers. Ones where he might've gotten his genius from which could add extra context to him being a obsessive fan to Mr. Incredible at first (if his parents were Supers, they were likely too busy to watch over their son and Mr. Incredible could give Incredaboy attention he wants as a kid, a connection to his busy parents) to becoming a villain (the theory also suggests he offed said Super parents and used the gains there to help his revenge plan). The idea Syndrome could be a Super possibly ate at his core of revenge, so he could've been in hard denial about it, much like how he thinks he's a hero when he's really not. But yeah Syndrome is so good, so well thought out in terms of character, design and execution, I fucking love this movie, haha~
@JoseHernandez-kl2ng
@JoseHernandez-kl2ng 8 месяцев назад
There is a related theory in which Syndrome is an unrecognized son of Mr. Increidible based on their similar facial features. This would make Syndrome's obsession have even more sense.
@SnakeMan448
@SnakeMan448 9 месяцев назад
Imagine if someone suddenly appeared in your car as you got in, acting like they're your best buddy when you barely know them and that you should do everything together from now on. Yeah, you'd hate them too.
@Rockotarthepurplehatguy
@Rockotarthepurplehatguy 9 месяцев назад
True. It's more so that Mr. Incredible is inconsiderate of the fact that Buddy is still a kid and doesn't understand how this hero stuff really works, and he kicks him out for being an obsessive fan, rather than explaining to him why it is a bad idea to be his sidekick. If he had done that, then Buddy probably would have given up then and there before being sent down the wrong path. Ironically, the true villain of the film is Mr. Incredible's schedule, trying to rush through everything and maximize efficiency. So he didn't have the time to stop and fix the buddy situation properly.
@CountOfMonteCristo_
@CountOfMonteCristo_ 7 месяцев назад
Man Syndrome is such an interesting villain, he’s so complex and memorable that I’d go as far to say he’s one of the best written of our time. The concept of a narcissist committing genocide on a super hero’s, just for him to fly around and pretend to be one not just out of spite, but out of a misguided mindset of what it means to be a superhero. His jealously is beautifully tragic, yes it’s sad that Mr Incredible was mean to him, and in a way he did create the villain we know him to be, but his behavior shows that he still would be selfish and envious no matter what. It’s incredible how every time he’s on screen, he gives a very memorable performance, I can quote him all these years later that says a lot. Beautiful video man, this is why the Incredibles is not only my favorite Pixar film, but one of the best animated films of all time.
@speedracer2008
@speedracer2008 9 месяцев назад
Syndrome is a dark reflection of Zeus’ phrase in Hercules (1997). That phrase is “Being famous doesn’t make you a true hero.” Syndrome never understood what it REALLY meant to be a hero. He believed it was about being praised for saving the day, when, in actuality, it’s about putting your life on the line to help others who can’t help themselves. Syndrome’s plan with the Omnidroid epitomizes this flawed perception of heroism. He designed the Omnidroid, so he could defeat it and win the public’s praise in the process. Once the Omnidroid became a greater threat than Syndrome was equipped to handle, he chose to run away and leave everyone else at its mercy, rather than making an effort to save everyone before the Omnidroid could do more damage. Syndrome was unwilling to put his own life on the line to appear as a hero. He just wanted a shortcut to the fame that came with being a hero.
@eternalnos2179
@eternalnos2179 10 месяцев назад
Syndrome has always been one of my favorite movie villans with his straying down the wrong path after having his passion tarnished at a young age by his idol. I've always thought he was a super with his super power being super intelligence. He's a super villian And hey you're on your way to 30k! Congrats dude! I really dig your channel and the passion you have put into all your videos since the start. Cheers to the future!
@italex827
@italex827 2 месяца назад
Jason Lee did a great job as Syndrome. Makes sense he was chosen for the role, considering who his dad was.
@dylanthomas385
@dylanthomas385 10 месяцев назад
Do water news next
@Saltboi1823
@Saltboi1823 9 месяцев назад
Opinion/theory: Syndrome is not a socio/psychopath, He is a narcissist. "Social withdrawal" Syndrome lives on a volcanic island, while not completely alone, That is certainly not the place you go when you want to make friends. "Pretentious or arrogant behavior" He almost got hit with a tree because he was too busy boasting, He seems a bit too self-aware of this for a narcissist, but still. "Inability to handle criticism" A bit harder to see, But as a child, you can tell he didn't like being told he wasn't good enough to be Mr. incredible's sidekick. "Feelings of victimization" Even years after Mr. incredible rejected him, Syndrome is still convinced that he was in the wrong for turning buddy down. "Struggles to feel empathy" When Mr. incredible's family is found by the aforementioned villain, He has no hesitance in attempting to neutralize them. "Views other people as assets to be used" When Mirage voices her moral gripes with his actions towards the hero, Syndrome acts somewhat suave and charismatic, Reassuring her that he would not allow Mr. incredible to harm her and it was simply Syndrome calling his bluff, Even affectionately calling her "Sweetheart" and acting as if he feels romantically for her, But as soon as she turns him down and is unaffected, Syndrome drops the act and you can see the frustration in his face, Another trait of narccissm, Using emotions as a pawn to make people feel guilt.
@19predator87
@19predator87 10 месяцев назад
I'll give him a 9/10
@19predator87
@19predator87 9 месяцев назад
and I'll be Back
@dr.c2195
@dr.c2195 10 месяцев назад
I like the moral of the story. The ability to forgive really is very important. Improves mental health, helps make wise decisions, and creates peace around you. I honestly would prefer the ability to forgive over any superpower in the movie. True peace often can only come from within.
@Mohico-San
@Mohico-San 10 месяцев назад
Nice Video, Syndrome is one of my favorite villains too. Also i'm happy to see my name in the credits.
@AbrasiousProductions
@AbrasiousProductions 10 месяцев назад
I love the Troughton joke🤣
@ximenaallessandrij.5972
@ximenaallessandrij.5972 10 месяцев назад
Rewatching The Incredibles a few days ago, I noticed how BRILLIANT Syndrome was, a true genious like Tony Stark maybe, and that his plan didn't worked out (to me) by two main reasons that worked on the Incredible's favor: that the family life were outcasted and blended with sociaty so he couldn't know the powers of the kids, wich made Violet to set them free, 'cause that torture trap was really monstrous and great (for its porpouse), like literally was her power what helped them on time (perhaps they could have find another way but too late); the other one is that, because Syndrom isn't physically "super", he got knocked-out by his creation the entire fight, I have no clue what could've happened if he was conscious, because that wapon that paralizes them was amazing!, probably the ending wouldn't had change but maybe he could have make things way more difficult... I don't know, maybe I'm just thinking a lot, but I really get to appreciate what a mastermind he was and that only his own "greatnes" was the thing that blinded him Like, creating something SO powerful that could only be destroyed by itself... wow, and that his own creator was the same, incredible indeed!
@matthewbrown3194
@matthewbrown3194 10 месяцев назад
Rockotar please make videos talks about other villains in different series and movies in the near future your doing amazing job for real
@scottwendt9575
@scottwendt9575 9 месяцев назад
This movie had one of the great messages for our world of “Equity of outcomes” and no more grades or tests because they hurt feelings. When everyone is special, then no one is! When we ignore this message, we get a world full of TikTok influencers without basic life skills.
@inkga10clan29
@inkga10clan29 10 месяцев назад
He’s my second favorite Pixar villain, Lotso is number one.
@bizzyg5751
@bizzyg5751 9 месяцев назад
What I hated about Buddy, which is what I think made him an excellent villain, is that I knew kids (plural) like him in real life at the time, and he was so relatable. I grew up with them, and years later, that's how I came to learn how much work went into developing this character. People like Buddy aren't just egotistical or narcissistic, they have this obsession with social constructs such as "respect" and "dignity" and wield tactics such as manipulation and lies/half truths like hidden weapons to control people, so it's hard for "their puppets" to see. They are cute when they are kids, but they get angry when they can't fool people. By time they lose their cute charm they have learned how to be charismatic and charming, which gets them by just fine regardless of what one or many grubby slobs may say. They like to make people, particularly strangers and close acquaintances feel like they know them. That's Syndrome all the way.
@JustiBuns
@JustiBuns 9 месяцев назад
I like when he made a incredible pun
@silverscorpio24
@silverscorpio24 10 месяцев назад
Incredibles 2 was SUCH a disappointing downgrade from the first one. And I will fight anyone who says otherwise.
@williehampton3855
@williehampton3855 10 месяцев назад
I actually enjoyed it. But I understand where you are coming from.
@SonofTiamat
@SonofTiamat 10 месяцев назад
It really was. It was like watching a paint by numbers movie with predictable beats
@williehampton3855
@williehampton3855 9 месяцев назад
@@SonofTiamat But maybe things will fall into place once Incredibles 3 comes. With Superheroes now fully legalized, this would be a great opportunity for the third film to do a time skip where the Parr Family are slightly older than before with Bob and Helen in their 50s, Violet in her early 20s, Dash as a teen and Jack-Jack as a little kid.
@silverscorpio24
@silverscorpio24 9 месяцев назад
@@williehampton3855 They should have done that for 2.
@williehampton3855
@williehampton3855 9 месяцев назад
@@silverscorpio24 They'll get another chance.
@eddyopts5141
@eddyopts5141 10 месяцев назад
Love the Doctor Who reference!
@gimmeyourrights8292
@gimmeyourrights8292 9 месяцев назад
Syndrome has so many quotable lines that My Father and I still quote them to THIS DAY!
@JeffWeselyan
@JeffWeselyan 10 месяцев назад
They need make incredibles: story of buddy pine so we can see buddy life how he become villain
@CHADCONTEXT
@CHADCONTEXT 10 месяцев назад
I really want to see how Syndrome created his own technology, wealth and carefully made plans to enact his revenge against Mr. Incredible. Sure he mentioned he started to create weapons in the movie but I want to see him creating his prototypes, while having a series of success and failures. There is more than just making weapons, we need a comic based on his origins. The backstory of a villain and how they rise is something that is always interesting.
@jesserivera2043
@jesserivera2043 10 месяцев назад
Between this and Sky High you can't help but feel that Disney has a thing for the "Villain Nerd" trope. I still believe that Buddy's ability to create this tech makes him a technopath similar to how Royal Pain was in Sky High
@levievil9220
@levievil9220 10 месяцев назад
Doubt that most people say he’s has super intelligence because if he was a technopath the robot wouldn’t have needed a ai well not a learning one just one to respond to him like a remote control car waits for a controller for it to move
@pallasathena1555
@pallasathena1555 9 месяцев назад
What’s better, not having a strong belief or having such a strong belief that it blinds you to all other perspectives- is the struggle of my life
@SteelGnat
@SteelGnat 9 месяцев назад
Who knowns maybe Syndrome already had a problem by the time he met mr incredable like he grewup in a troubled place with no parental support he felt fully abandoned and noone cared yet saw being a superhero as a way for recognition and love he never got as he loved and look up 2 mr increadable and othee superheroes when he had noone else to look up to yet when he tried to be a side kick he considered as a role model wanting in his mind to help and got in his eyes rejected by what he consider a semi father figure that was his role model what a good hero should be he became jaded and decided to take revenge on heroes and make himself a hero real or not
@jenniferarguelles8037
@jenniferarguelles8037 10 месяцев назад
I wholeheartedly agree! Everything about him is just INCREDIBLE and I also love how he has a fiery hairdo when he grows older, which shows his change of evil Also have you seen elemental, if yes what did you think?
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