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Lore You Should Know - Mordenkainen 

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Chris Perkins joins Greg Tito to discuss the the great wizard Mordenkainen. (This is a re-upload from an earlier LYSK video, we will be working through those archives over the coming weeks and months.)
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@LS994
@LS994 4 года назад
Greg Tito: "We don't really have epic level stuff" Chris Perkins: "not in this edition, not yet." I'm like "Not yet? 🤨"
@AleksandrStrizhevskiy
@AleksandrStrizhevskiy 4 года назад
I can almost feel them getting ready to release Spelljammer for 5th edition. That BD3 cinematic is a strong indicator of where they're going.
@si2foo
@si2foo 4 года назад
too be fair alot of characters never get high enough to need it and those that do will probably be getting to arround that level now
@Winfiled04
@Winfiled04 4 года назад
yeah, i was thinking the same thing.
@artificerprime4154
@artificerprime4154 4 года назад
@@si2foo The rules allow you to start at higher levels. It isn't for beginners, but it is certainly possible.
@clarkside4493
@clarkside4493 4 года назад
I just ended a campaign where the party got to 20th level and then started getting a few boons. Most of them had two boons by the very end. The one for immortality was popular among them.
@AleksandrStrizhevskiy
@AleksandrStrizhevskiy 4 года назад
That intro was hilarious and good on you guys for having the courage to leave that in that's hilarious
@clarkside4493
@clarkside4493 4 года назад
You might even say it's loads better!
@romdog1818
@romdog1818 4 года назад
The word *courage* sure gets thrown around a lot now a days. Damn near lost its meaning.
@AleksandrStrizhevskiy
@AleksandrStrizhevskiy 4 года назад
@@romdog1818 When your job and audience are on the line I think courage is applicable. Doing something in spite of risks because you think it's right is how courage should be used.
@Seabass0071
@Seabass0071 4 года назад
Chris Perkins needs his own RU-vid Channel!
@chaance117
@chaance117 4 года назад
I agree, I'm thinking this dude knows the stuff I want to know, keep him talking!
@AEB1066
@AEB1066 4 года назад
Greyhawk and the Forgotten Realms are real; Canada is a fantasy setting.
@Galeigh
@Galeigh 4 года назад
Long story short: Mordenkainen will do as he pleases, laws of men and gods be damned.
@aarndal90
@aarndal90 4 года назад
"You shall carry Matt Ernset's load." xD Ah... Greg Tito, you brighten my day.
@incitingariot9925
@incitingariot9925 3 года назад
Did anyone else hear Sam Riegel sing "Bigby's hand" at every mention of bigby?
@CTSparky1
@CTSparky1 4 года назад
I'm loving these lore segments. These are great for the old Grognard in me. Thank you for these. It also makes it easy to put these characters and areas in my own home world.
@marcusbryan8384
@marcusbryan8384 3 года назад
In Rogues Gallery Mordenkainen was Neutral, in the Gord the Rogue books, written by Gygax he was into preserving 'Balance'. He does however have something of the agent of chaos about him.
@Restributordevill
@Restributordevill 4 года назад
30th level. "Not in this edition. Not yet" Hmmmm? I'm interested!
@thegreatmagus21
@thegreatmagus21 4 года назад
All you need to survive is a bottle of buttermilk and a ten foot pool.
@Captainbigmike86
@Captainbigmike86 4 года назад
14:20 “we don’t have epic level in this edition, NOT YET. Does that mean that we can expect epic levels to come out?
@jamesorth8231
@jamesorth8231 4 года назад
Good catch! Hopefully they make epic levels part of the core game/rules and not limited to a singular campaign that has it as a specific feature.
@hambinger
@hambinger 4 года назад
Confirmed in this episode: The Forgotten Realms *IS* Canada...
@keiths81ca
@keiths81ca 4 года назад
Viking colonies are the namesake
@ReadingDave
@ReadingDave 4 года назад
In first edition, Mordikainen's stats were in the Rogues Gallery product TSR put out.
@DocEonChannel
@DocEonChannel 4 года назад
Yes, but everything in that book was also "made up" stats, not the stats of the characters as played.
@TheUpperbutt
@TheUpperbutt 4 года назад
Rest in the best of peace Gary Gygax!
@cafecaram4747
@cafecaram4747 4 года назад
Great topic! Thank you. Love this indepth background and history. Never heard about this before, especially that bigbe and mordenkainen were rivals. (it looks great ;D)
@clarkside4493
@clarkside4493 4 года назад
15:03 I might not mind if that spell broke magic item attunement and consumables rather than straight up destroying all magic items in its area.
@wilyhobbit6550
@wilyhobbit6550 4 года назад
another great video, thanks guys!
@tturff
@tturff 4 года назад
Always love to hear the mind of Mr. Perkins.
@monswine
@monswine 4 года назад
I thought my speakers blew out when the sound cut off
@omega311888
@omega311888 4 года назад
ya. crappy editing there.
@MrJpreezy17
@MrJpreezy17 4 года назад
I'm glad they kept in the first take xD
@TheeIronDuck
@TheeIronDuck 3 года назад
As someone who has just gotten i to d&d 2 years ago, i love these lore videos and the history behind everything.
@ardinhelme687
@ardinhelme687 4 года назад
Oof, that sad pause after the pronunciation question hit me harder than I expected...
@Maztermox
@Maztermox 4 года назад
I didn't think much of these videos when i saw the thumbnail but hell these are good!
@murdockberk8888
@murdockberk8888 4 года назад
6:30 Wasn't Rob, it was Frank Mentzer. Excellent adventure, have an original copy on my shelf
@LordSathar
@LordSathar 4 года назад
so much he said was wrong, i can't even start
@beatleblev
@beatleblev 4 года назад
Truth. Gary had promised a follow up to The Village of Hommlet and had too much on his plate. Thank you Frank, for my favorite way to start a Greyhawk campaign for many years.
@ERWebster
@ERWebster 4 года назад
This was fun and interesting, thanks!
@mikkosimonen
@mikkosimonen 4 года назад
Bigby and Rigby weren't player characters, they were Mordenkainen's henchmen. Yrag was, I believe, also Gary's character. Tenser and Serten were played by the same person, Ernest Gygax. Early D&D was pretty wild.
@antonymcewan9987
@antonymcewan9987 4 года назад
Yep. Both Serten and Tenser were anagrams of Ernest. There was a lot of that at that table! Yrag, for example?! :)
@mikekennedy5879
@mikekennedy5879 4 года назад
Yrag was basically Gary backwards, a gimmick that was used a lot apparently. My favourite name was Erak's Cousin.
@alexchen7729
@alexchen7729 4 года назад
I thought I remember from all the first edition materials that Mordenkainen was True Neutral.
@beatleblev
@beatleblev 4 года назад
You are correct. In 1st-3.5 D&D Mordenkainen is Neutral. He is also actively trying to preserve the Balance in Oerth in those editions. His penchant for secrecy and manipulation won him no friends even among those with a similar outlook. He sees Neutrality as something to fight for or as a cause. This includes containing and repelling the forces of chaos and evil, and also thwarting the crusades of the zealots of Law and Good into Evil territory. He believed that there was a place for everyone in Oerth from the beacons of light, hope, and mercy to the level one commoner, to the homicidal sociopathic god-emperors. Oerth was welcome to all. The 5e retcon of Mordenkainen sounds more in line with the Grey Seer of Urnst or The Simbul from Toril.
@Daleksaresupreme1
@Daleksaresupreme1 3 года назад
I'm one of the few new players who actually really likes diving into the old Settings lore so really appreciate these little nods to Greyhawk, hopefully it'll inspire more to read the old lore and set their adventures on the planet Oerth and in the Gem of the Flanaess.
@TheSkeletonVA
@TheSkeletonVA 4 года назад
Just so you know the sound cut out after a few seconds after the joke at the start. Stay safe out there Guys!
@VikingMale
@VikingMale 3 года назад
They should reprint Rogues Gallery that has all those characters like Mordenkainen and Otis stats.
@samgunn12
@samgunn12 4 года назад
Cool lore drop. Thx.
@arcadiandynasty8830
@arcadiandynasty8830 4 года назад
Bro my brain exploded when I heard Bigby. I love his hand.
@RobinMcBeth
@RobinMcBeth 4 года назад
He probably never takes a mulligan.
@clintmcmahan3792
@clintmcmahan3792 3 года назад
Chris Perkins is like some kind of Arch-mage Professor of D&D Lore.
@wailandkarisma4279
@wailandkarisma4279 4 года назад
Enemies getting unhinged by bigbys clenched fisting is gonna be a thing in bg3.
@mrsj2263
@mrsj2263 4 года назад
But what's the deal with the buttermilk?
@mattwilcoxuk
@mattwilcoxuk 4 года назад
Awesome content, thanks :) Please check your mic gains before though - clipping is painful and constant.
@vogless
@vogless 4 года назад
Give us Greyhawk already!
@AAron-gr3jk
@AAron-gr3jk 4 года назад
Canada is a canon world for SpellJamming :)
@CaptainHorn
@CaptainHorn 3 года назад
What an epic fail right at the beginning, that was so funny, I had to remember to breathe!
@victorolson5663
@victorolson5663 3 года назад
I find it funny how the sounds goes out.
@imperialadvisoraremheshvau3788
@imperialadvisoraremheshvau3788 4 года назад
I like Greg but I wish he did some research on his own about the subject. I have been playing D&D since 1980 and Chris P dropped so many cool and tantalizing answers that Greg should have a ton of follow up questions on and instead we got a D&D version of a Jimmy Fallon interview.
@ryderma1
@ryderma1 4 года назад
Good stuff
@kelkamer630
@kelkamer630 2 года назад
What Wizard subclass would he be i wonder 🤔
@claybmt
@claybmt 4 года назад
Rob may have also had a hand in it, but it was Frank Mentzer who wrote Temple of Elemental Evil with Gygax.
@LordSathar
@LordSathar 4 года назад
Rob was just a player in the Temple when Gary ran it for him, but this interview is riddled with errors.
@spensirmclife6549
@spensirmclife6549 3 года назад
I am gonna rework the intro of Tomb of Annhilation to make Mordenkainen and Bigby the guys that send the party on their mission.
@jnever9768
@jnever9768 3 года назад
luke gygax says 'kay'nen so thats what i will use
@Onerouss
@Onerouss 4 года назад
Are we still doing phrasing? Anyone??
@kmoustakas
@kmoustakas 4 года назад
I love Gary and Luke
@cabalarcana6996
@cabalarcana6996 4 года назад
It's too bad that Mordenkainen's Lucubration is kindof replaced by Arcane Recovery.
@UberBri
@UberBri 4 года назад
Take two!
@AFTepes
@AFTepes 2 года назад
My favorite D&D character is Melf! I would like to know more about him pls
@pwnyboy9714
@pwnyboy9714 4 года назад
Nailed it.
@jarnomikkola8438
@jarnomikkola8438 4 года назад
Funny that it tells when this was recorded.
@LightOfHands
@LightOfHands 4 года назад
Something tells me this was supposed to be scheduled for 12PM instead of 12AM.
@KazemaruW
@KazemaruW 4 года назад
Did not know about the Gary Gigax player character
@talscorner3696
@talscorner3696 3 года назад
Khorne likes it, apparently
@ironmaxwell804
@ironmaxwell804 4 года назад
Murdy Curdy
@caspianbchalphy
@caspianbchalphy 4 года назад
Was t there an old campaign booklet where the players play as the circle of 8 and one by one Vecna killed them? I’ve heard it was very railroady and people didn’t like it.
@mikekennedy5879
@mikekennedy5879 4 года назад
Yes. It was called "Vecna Lives." Keep in mind this adventure was written at a time when the adventures were written as if they were stories for the DM to read first and an adventure for players second. It was standard at the time for player freedom to be sacrificed for the sake of the story. As well, it was a set up adventure for the release of the Greyhawk Wars event which changed the setting's political status quo significantly, making the world more interlinked as opposed to a collage of countries, each independant of the other and stagnant. So, yes, it was railroady. But if you're a halfway decent DM you can make it not railroady and see where the players lead you.
@greglewinski2088
@greglewinski2088 4 года назад
That instant of realizing what Greg said is way wrong is great. Greg should have referenced something from Return of the King, between Sam and Frodo. But this works too.
@fighterofDL
@fighterofDL 4 года назад
I will be personifying the mad mage tonight! What timing!
@shobruno
@shobruno 4 года назад
Mordekainen and the mad mage, are not the same
@Maztermox
@Maztermox 4 года назад
Do Elminster Aumar please that would be awesome!
@sanamin13
@sanamin13 4 года назад
Publish a book or even a series of books about D&D lore. Just like this video series. People would eat it up.
@Walter-Anderson
@Walter-Anderson 4 года назад
sanamin13 I think that’s what you the novels are for
@denniswalton1901
@denniswalton1901 4 года назад
repost from a while ago, interesting ;)
@papatango5082
@papatango5082 4 года назад
Roll for a Strength Check.
@antonymcewan9987
@antonymcewan9987 4 года назад
This is fascinating. A lot of this I was already aware of, but it's good to know a lot of this lore for my latest character, an Elven Wizard, who has a hero worship complex for Mordenkainen. He carries around notes and books of the Tales Of Mordenkainen, and constantly talks to people about him. Some of these snippets will now be used in-game! :)
@mr.berardine1694
@mr.berardine1694 4 года назад
...or you could just ask his one of his sons who played with him during those days.
@misomiso8228
@misomiso8228 3 года назад
9:11 what episode was that?
@boblinhobgoblin
@boblinhobgoblin 4 года назад
I feel like they meant to edit that differently...
@eddieg7909
@eddieg7909 4 года назад
I think the "Battle of Emridy Meadows" adventure that Chris refers to is something he actually wrote
@vonbek8118
@vonbek8118 4 года назад
Jon Leitheusser & Chris Perkins
@WeAreCameron
@WeAreCameron 4 года назад
cannot believe you even CONSIDERED cutting that intro out
@buckveazey3369
@buckveazey3369 4 года назад
Would you guys be gracious enough to say what episode of dice Camera Action Sam Whitworth was in?
@DocEonChannel
@DocEonChannel 4 года назад
29 and 55 according to wikipedia.
@ruben307
@ruben307 4 года назад
episode 55
@taylor65712
@taylor65712 4 года назад
So what i took away from this session is Mordenkainen is actually Chris Perkins💯 It All Makes Sense Now💥
@dittmar104
@dittmar104 4 года назад
Taylor417 no no he’s Gary, Chris just inherited his spell book
@icod.2076
@icod.2076 4 года назад
We don’t have epic levels in 5E, yet!
@joluoto
@joluoto 4 года назад
Some Murdy kurdy lore.
@DrakeFoulZeff
@DrakeFoulZeff 4 года назад
Chris come back to Acq. Inc. Please!
@dragonballtalk8527
@dragonballtalk8527 4 года назад
Look up a.j pickett channel on youtube after don't you think he should be in the company as a employee
@tristanpanke2468
@tristanpanke2468 4 года назад
Never understood why Mordenkainen is in CoS. I mean sure, it's a name drop and some people will drool all over it, but it doesn't make sense according to the most recent lore concerning him.
@whatsupdate
@whatsupdate 4 года назад
Sam Witwer stoke the show as Mordenkainen
@Magemaster55
@Magemaster55 4 года назад
Why're you re-upload this? What was wrong with OG video?
@melamber9823
@melamber9823 4 года назад
They should do one of these on epic level wizards of the multiverse and maybe make official who the most powerful wizard in the entire multiverse IS. is it Mordenkainen? or maybe Elminster?
@beatleblev
@beatleblev 4 года назад
That's a good question. When you are able to Wish calamity on your foes the difference in level is somewhat minimized. However, the ultimate non-deity magic user that I can think of is Rajaat the Warbringer from Athas in the Dark Sun campaign. He has not been stated out as far as I know, but his jailer Borys, has. Mind you, it took Boyrs of Ebe and several other enhanced epic level wizards to imprison their master, Rajaat in a prison in the Black (plane of Shadow). Here are the 3.5 D&D stats for: Boyrs of Ebe, The Dragon of Tyr: (LE Male Champion of Rajaat stage X dragon Psychic Warrior 12/Wizard (defiler) 5/Arch Defiler 10/Cerebremancer 7/Athasian Dragon 10) (Ur-Draxa/Athas/Dark Sun) My other non-Athas contenders would be: Elminster (CG male human (chosen of Mystra) Fighter 1/Rogue 2/Cleric [Mystra] 3/Wizard 24/Archmage 5) (Shadowdale, Toril/Forgotten Realms) Iggwiliv (CE female human Wizard 26/Archmage 4) (formerly Perrinland, Oerth/currently Hades/Greyhawk) Mordenkainen (N male human Wizard 27) (Yatil Mountains and City of Greyhawk/Oerth/Greyhawk) Raistlin Majere (NE male human Wizard 7/Wizard of High Sorcery (Black) 7/Loremaster 8/Archmage 5, Master of Past and Present) (Palanthus/Krynn/Dragonlance) The Simbul (CN female human (chosen of Mystra) Sorcerer 20/Wizard 10/Archmage 1) (Aglarond/Toril/Forgotten Realms) Szass Tam, Zulkir of Necromancy, Red Wizard of Thay (LE male human (lich) Necromancer 10/Red Wizard 17/Archmage 2) (Thay/Toril/Forgotten Realms)
@Deris87
@Deris87 3 года назад
I don't know if they've been updated more recently, but in 3.X Elminster Was a Fighter 1/Rogue 2/Cleric 3/Wizard 24/Archmage 5, vs Mordenkainen's Wizard 27. Tasha/Iggwilv was Wizard 26/Archmage 4.
@grannyweatherwax4917
@grannyweatherwax4917 4 года назад
I'm going to create a version of Mordenkainens' Disjunction for my drow wizard, if my DM will allow :D
@omega311888
@omega311888 4 года назад
thank you for pronouncing his name correctly
@neshannockfez
@neshannockfez 4 года назад
You left take 1 on
@EditorOrion
@EditorOrion 4 года назад
New Mordenkainen book to accommodate the new UA classes?
@RayMcNamaraMusic
@RayMcNamaraMusic 3 года назад
Hey D&D! I'm not tryna be an ass, but your audio should sound much better if you have gear that good. You just need to fix the settings of the gear.
@improvementTime10.3.17
@improvementTime10.3.17 4 года назад
7:50 chars from dnd can get to Canada
@improvementTime10.3.17
@improvementTime10.3.17 4 года назад
U2 17:00
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 4 года назад
First it seems. SPURT! Thanks for the Lore. We all know their spells. I remember those Greenwood series. Coming from Tolkien's works and playing MERP, I found it sort of weird, but to each their own I thought. But then in Tolkien's world, we know the Lore, which is prehistoric of our world because Aelfwine the Anglo-Saxon, sailed to The West and learned it from the Elves. Chris seems like such a pleasant chap.
@lucieeatssnekkers2756
@lucieeatssnekkers2756 4 года назад
Mordenkainen? More like Nerd-enkainen!
@Kalleosini
@Kalleosini 4 года назад
no like/dislike bar. suspicious.
@BrooklynRedLeg
@BrooklynRedLeg 3 года назад
Mordenkainen's alignment was True Neutral, not Chaotic Neutral. That's the reason for The Circle of 8 was to keep the balance in The Flanaess, where Evil is ascendant (Iuz, Zuggtmoy, Lolth, Iggwilv). As for his age, he'd be in his 60's at most, not really needing Potions of Longevity (yet). The timeline only advanced by 20 years (CY 576 to 596) and the events that Mordenkainen and the rest participated in was less than 20 years before that.....
@isaacalien
@isaacalien 4 года назад
Team MordenkEYEnen represent!
@mikekennedy5879
@mikekennedy5879 4 года назад
BOOOOOOOO!
@Mokey_MokeyLordofPuns
@Mokey_MokeyLordofPuns 4 года назад
Bring back Dice, Camera, Action
@MaxCBPCenter
@MaxCBPCenter 4 года назад
Lower the lvl of the mics please
@stevestumpy6873
@stevestumpy6873 3 года назад
The Rogues Gallery 1980 level 16 magicuser human male AL-N str 19 dex 17 con 17 int 18 wis 12 cha 18 hp 61
@sassywombat1189
@sassywombat1189 4 года назад
Mordenkainen literally died in my game last night.
@LordCyler
@LordCyler 4 года назад
You mean a Simulacrum of Mordenkainen died.
@nicolaricottone8377
@nicolaricottone8377 4 года назад
WE WANT DISJUNCTION BACK. PLEASE
@JSTaylor556
@JSTaylor556 3 года назад
I love that you guys do these lore videos, but your audio quality is absolutely terrible and far below what should reasonably be expected as a moderatley professional podcast.
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