When the show first aired it was explained. that if the Korean couple were speaking to each other we would get subtitles. If they were speaking in front of others we would not. The reason being that we are supposed to be as clueless as the rest of the survivors.
I was thinking the same thing. The loooooves getting background info for every little side character. I've known since since I started her Fringe and BSG reactions that this would be the perfect show for her to react to with all the flashbacks and perfectly imperfect characters.
For a show that came out 3 years after 9/11, to make one of the main characters an Iraqi soldier was a brave move for the writers/network. Sayid is one of my favourite characters.
Not just Iraqi, but Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard, who they recently captured on 13 December 2003; the pilot started filming in March and aired in Sept of 2004 - so the public awareness was VERY recent.
"I don't know if I'm supposed to be paying that close of attention." Correct. You're supposed to be paying even MORE attention. I kid of course, but yes, he was given two bottles by the stewardess.
@@bafmd paying attention is rewarding in this show because there is a lot of "easter eggs" and clues. On a rewatch you notice a lot so it's fun to watch reactions
“Republican Guard” was the name of the top division of Iraq and Saddam Hussain’s army. (The “enemy” of US/coalition forces in the Gulf War) The war was very extensively televised, with news reports 24/7, and the Republican Guard was mentioned very frequently in the news. Every adult who watched the news at that time was well acquainted with them.
One thing that I find LOST did incredibly well was to write each character in a way that makes each and every one feel very unique. Other shows have characters that use the same vocabulary, the same mannerisms, and have similar attitudes and behaviors as everyone else. This is probably due to poor directing. But in LOST every character has their very distinct vocabulary and manner of speech, and very distinct personalities. No two characters speak alike, or act alike. I find this more noticeable in LOST than any other series I have watched.
Honestly very few shows have great pilots imo. LOST has one of the absolute best pilots. So much intensity and mystery and intrigue right off the bat. And we're only getting started :D
@@kuhpunkt ARGHHH Apparently, autocorrect hates me It took what was supposed to say: That is what Terra Nova cost for the full 13 episode SET with dinosaurs. And substituted "season" for set. I was trying to get across that the Terra Nova Pilot cost the same BUT the set was intended to be reused and it had dinosaurs that needed designing and templates made and they too were reused; whereas Lost paid it for set pieces that they didn't intend to reuse (since the characters move to a different part of the Island)
Hasn't this changed in recent years? I remember that back then a lot of shows just have what is more or less a bog standard episode as a pilot, but a lot of modern shows try (and often succeed) to hook you immediately with the first episode. I sure know a lot that immediately impressed me and where the first episode was among the top episodes of the first season.
Carmen, I'd like to add something that hopefully will de-stress you a bit about LOST. Yes, there are things that are shown during the show that may or may not mean something further down the road (but lots of things that mean nothing as well). I think that many of the "Losties" are scaring you into writing EVERYTHING down, to the point that you may sacrifice your enjoyment of watching a good mystery and where it will unfold. Losties also have a history of spoiling things for reactors but dropping not-so-subtle hints and spoilers because they can't help themselves. My advice? Learn everyone's name and just enjoy the show. Losties watched it that way their first time, don't let them ruin it for you.
Completely agree. I don't get this obsession that many people have about reactors writing things down while they're watching the show. It's not a school assignment. Personally, taking notes would have totally ruined the whole experience for me.
Every reactor seems to get at least partially spoiled these days, assuming they haven't just outright watched the show before. And she's already showing signs that she's been prompted about way too much. I wish we could get sincere natural reactions but it seems wishful.
Carmen, I loved your Fringe reactions. Prolly my second favorite show of all time. LOST however, is my number one. Nothing beats it! Can't wait to re-watch it with you. Lets go!
Lost is one of those shows where it's not even possible to say anything without spoiling something. All I can say is I felt exactly like you did when you explained in your intro. Just one of those shows where it's all about watching relationships grow, I love it.
Yes, to have an Iraqi soldier as a main character just after 9/11, during war conflicts was a cool move by the writers. And that was Hurley's reaction, not realizing that he was talking to someone that was on the other side.
Names of the characters we now know: Jack, Kate, Boone, Shannon, Hurley, Charlie, Walt, and Sayid (not Saheed). We still don't know the names of the bald guy, the Asian couple, the blond haired guy, the Black older lady that Jack saved with CPR, and Walt's father. Sorry, I don't remember if we know the name of the pregnant girl yet.
I guess being a mom when Lost came out, I never called him the "bald man" Every time I saw him the lyrics would be in my head _Deception, disgrace_ _Evil as plain as the scar on his face_
@@TheCkent100 I was more pointing out how outside influence can colour how you watch something Terry was on Earth 2 as a mysterious hologram contact with a surprise reveal. His Starfleet Admiral wasn't a good guy. His Navy Captain/Admiral Boone on JAG had been court-martialed and then acquitted but was a good guy. He became antagonistic in Millennium He was in Harsh Realm, a General in the simulation, and he wanted to destroy the real world The only good role I saw him in was in Alias The scar just added to my preconceived notion. Since I associated him with his scar, he got linked to Lion King's Scar because I had a 4-year-old who adored Disney, and the song would keep playing in my head. Because of my biases, I was always suspicious and looking for deceit, even though he only mentioned a secret. IF I didn't know his older roles and didn't have a kid who was constantly watching Disney and the song playing in my mind, I could have linked him to Bald and Picard. That would have made my watching completely different.
Welcome to the island!! I remember watching this 2hr series premiere on September 22 2004. I had seen previews of this show in the summer and I was real curious. It is an awesome show. If you say you are hooked you might as well call yourself a lostie.
It's encouraging you actually discuss whether or not you'll change your opinions on certain characters or not....as the show does definitely mislead you with SOME characters (but not all), but I've seen so many 'fans' of the show that see it more than once, but still hold on to their hate/love of certain characters, ignoring any new information they learn. I look forward to your reaction to Ep 4. ;)
I miss the recaps of the episodes from Television Without Pity. Every time Boone was on screen, they used Shannon's nickname for him: Boone, God's friggin gift to humanity.😂
It was not a very common thing for prime-time network TV to be all about a massive serialized story, as a mid-2000s creation. Standalone episodes / stories were still the norm.
Based on your comments about enjoying character development and trying to figure out the mysteries... girl, you are gonna love Lost. 🌴🏝🌺 EDIT: really enjoy your outro thoughts.
Hilariously Daniel Dae Kim, despite being Korean was raised in America and was not fluent in the language. He had a very intensive six week course to learn the language for the show.
The irony is Yunjin Kim wanted to play Kate. They liked her so much they created a new character and gave her a husband, which is why they needed Daniel
You’ll notice this over time but this show does a great job of giving you an idea of what a person may be like but there is so much more than meets the eye. Never judge a book by its cover so tiss speak.
Just an FYI - LOST is a show that will punish you if you are not paying absolute attention at all times. In your example - the stewardess gave Jack 2 bottles and he had put one of them in his jacket pocket. This is actually something that was pretty clear in the show so if you are to have any hope of catching the subtle things then you need to up your attention game about tenfold. 😉
Sayid is my favorite character. A fan favorite as well. No, the Republican Guard was not common knowledge. I just figured since the US doesn't have a Republican Guard, then obviously, it must have been the other side.
It's sad that GOT fans have bullied/traumatized so many reactors into taking notes. You don't need to write anything down. We all watched and understood this show way back when without writing anything down. It's a TV show, not homework. It's just sucks to see reactors furiously writing instead of leaning back and enjoying the show. GOT is a uniquely dense adaptation of a uniquely dense series of books, so perhaps it made sense at some point to jot down some notes. But GOT is unique. Just watch and enjoy the show and trust your brain to remember and connect dots. Also, again, this is a TV show. They will expressly remind you of anything that needs to be remembered.
The full distress signal can be heard as an Easter Egg on the Season 1 dvd (without actors talking over it etc). This is not a spoiler, it is the message which played in this episode, and the only other place it can be heard properly besides this episode is the Easter Egg on the dvd. And we're not going to get a better translation than Shannon's on the show. She is the survivor who speaks French. If you would consider this to be information you don't want to have, don't keep reading. Alternatively, come back and check this information out after you complete Season 1. Iteration 17294530 : "Si qui que ce soit puisse entendre ceci, ils sont morts. Veuillez nous aider. Je vais essayer d'aller jusqu'au Rocher Noir. Il les a tués. Il les a tués tous." Iteration 17294531 : "Il est dehors. il est dehors et Brennan a pris les clés. Veuillez nous aider. Ils sont morts. Ils sont tous morts. Aidez-nous. Ils sont morts." Iteration 17294532 : "Il est dehors. Il est dehors et Brennan a pris les clés. Veuillez nous aider. Ils sont morts. Ils sont tous morts. Aidez-nous. Ils sont morts." Iteration 17294533 : "Ils sont tous morts. Aidez-nous. Ils sont morts. Si qui que ce soit puisse entendre ceci" Iteration 17294534 : "Il est dehors. Veuillez nous aider. Veuillez nous aider." Iteration 17294535 : "Si qui que ce soit puisse entendre ceci, je vais essayer d'aller jusqu'au Rocher Noir. Veuillez nous aider. Ils sont tous morts. Ils sont morts. Il les a tués. Ils les a tués tous. Je vais essayer d'aller jusqu'au Rocher Noir." Which has been translated by Lost fans, from the French. I suppose some folks may consider this a spoiler, but it really isn't, and it contains information never otherwise relayed in the show. Iteration 17294530 : "If anybody can hear this, they are dead. Please help us. I'll try to make it to the Black Rock. It [or he] killed them. It [or he] killed them all." Iteration 17294531 : "It [or he] is outside. It [or he] is outside and Brennan took the keys. Please help us. They are dead. They are all dead. Help us. They are dead." Iteration 17294532 : "It [or he] is outside. It [or he] is outside and Brennan took the keys. Please help us. They are dead. They are all dead. Help us. They are dead." Iteration 17294533 : "They are all dead. Help us. They are dead. If anybody can hear this-" Iteration 17294534 : "It [or he] is outside. Please help us. Please help us !" Iteration 17294535 : "If anybody can hear this, I'll try to make it to the Black Rock. Please help us ! They are all dead. They are dead. It [or he] killed them. It [or he] killed them all. I'll try to make it to the Black Rock."
The network went the extra mile, creating a few web pages for ( fake ) institutions / companies featured in the series. A few would have links to browse other pages, basically an easter egg hunt. There were fake advertisements too ( airing in the commercial break periods ).
I'm getting the feeling that no amount of note-taking is going to help this one if she doesn't even recognize that the "Republican Guard" isn't a branch of US military...
Just a note about the French message and Shannon's translation... "Il les a tué. Il les a tué tous" can be translated as "It killed them. It killed them all" BUT it can also be translated as "He killed them. He killed them all."
More suggestions: - I don't recommend binging too many episodes in a single day. You need to let some developments sink and let your mind register them for long term to enjoy the show more because you both need to remember details later and you need to know and identify/emphatize more with the characters. Neither will come easily if you binge many episodes in one sitting. 2 episodes is ok in a single day or maybe 3 at most but I definitely don't recommend more. Especially because you're watching it alone. Also, if you're doing your own editing it will help a lot to remember stuff but if your editing is too behind of your watching sessions, then it won't be as helpful. - Taking notes is cool and definitely useful but keep your eyes on the screen as much as possible. You don't need to write down everything right away. - Try to include all key moments of an episode in your edit, even if you don't say anything in that moment, a silent confused face is also a reaction. We're watching these mainly for those moments. (Not that you've edited out key scenes so far, just general suggestion) - Researching "republican guard" online was a slightly risky choice. You need to think twice when you choose to google something again.
'I do not like him so far' hahahahahahaha, that's ok, you will. Although there are a ton of mysteries to try to solve when watching this show, and they are fun, for me, primarily this is a character driven show. And I love the characters and their development.
@@wilson0213 ... You can say that all you want to, I still don't agree with you. For one thing, you could make that statement about any character on this show, some people don't like them all. I've seen reactors that didn't like Jack at this point in the show, very early. Also, there's no guarantee who she'll end up liking and who she wont. It's a generic statement, that doesn't give anything away.
@@buddystewart2020 my dude, saying "you will" implies he stays around long enough for someone to even change their opinion on him, meaning he doesn't die within the next few episodes. And saying you will, also implies a redemption arc which is also a spoiler. Saying anything about "you will ike him or her" etc etc is always spoilery
@@earth2saka Disagree. Everyone should be allowed to enjoy the show without any prior knowledge of anything whatsoever. And that includes character's names.
Please understand that she wants to experience the show for herself. The answers are coming and she'll get them if she's paying attention. We don't have to provide info that the show already provides. Especially if it's information that has yet to happen. That's called spoilers. Thanks for your consideration on future comments.
Guys, I get where you're coming from, I hate spoilers. But it's just a character's name. And there's nothing significant about their name, like it is with some specific characters. Relax with this whole policing thing a little. It's not the end of the world.
@@earth2saka I agree, not a big spoiler. Definitely not "the end of the world". But it is a spoiler, and spoilers are spoilers no matter how big or small. People should get to watch the show the same way you did, which means at this point certain character names weren't yet revealed. It happens far too often that people who are willing to leave spoiler comments will leave spoiler comments. Here it's just an early series character name, later it's casual mention of something huge. Nobody is "policing", but just trying to keep the experience pure for new viewers. Can you remember what this show was like the very first you watched it? I can, and at this point I didn't know certain character's names. Calling out a spoiler comment is intended to just help the commenter think before hitting the send button. It's not meant to hurt feeling or create silly internet debates. A simple rule about spoilers is: if you're about to comment on something that hasn't been revealed yet (anything that takes place in the future) it is a spoiler and shouldn't be mentioned.
This is unrelated to the episode reaction which was great lol but can I just say the red hair is gorgeous! You literally look like Ariel, that is the perfect shade of red I always wanted to die my hair haha