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Loudness normalization using the Waves WLM Plus loudness meter

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Being able to set subjective loudness is becoming increasingly important, for Spotify, Apple Music and other streaming services, and for RU-vid. Did you know that RU-vid prefers loudness to be -14 LUFS? This video will show you exactly how to set loudness using the Waves WLM Plus. Check out the Audio Masterclass Music Production and Sound Engineering Course at bit.ly/3W3tpKo
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@AudioMasterclass 2 года назад

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@ChaceBonanno Год назад

I was going in circles with how to achieve my target integrated loudness and true peak. This video finally made it make sense. You first normalize the audio to your desired loudness, then use a true peak limiter without makeup gain.

@band_recording Год назад

Lovely tutorial! Thank you so much for this video, David. It was a pleasure to watch and I've learned a lot. I will go now over to my studio and try it out. Kind regards!

@oechols 4 года назад

Learned a lot and can't help but wish this was done with a fully recorded and mix music file. Still enjoyed it and understand the principle though.

@scottcornish7574 3 года назад

Very helpful video. Thanks!

@eytankrief497 3 года назад

Very helpful. Thank you!

@AudioMasterclass 3 года назад

You're welcome.

@itsawildspring 4 года назад

This is great. Thank you!

@AudioMasterclass 4 года назад

You're welcome. I'm planning a followup that demonstrates why you should run the WLM twice. DM

@fre428 3 года назад

Great video!! Thank you!! In Logic Pro X worked fine the bounce trick!!! Thank you again!!

@AudioMasterclass 3 года назад

Thank you for your input. Good to know it works in Logic. DM

@blu3boy420 Год назад

Such a great tutorial!

@LuixDirtyBit 4 года назад

Awesome video, thank you very much.

@AudioMasterclass 4 года назад

You're welcome.

@Cola.Cube. Год назад

Spinning like a Leslie speaker is Wordsworth🤣🤣. I found this video coz I needed it, thank you.

@DaveKnowlesFilmmaker 2 года назад

I have just tried bouncing the tracks in DaVinci Resolve 18 and it works just fine. For a mix you have to bounce a mix onto a new track. You do this in the Fairlight page/timeline then if you add WLM Plus to the mix down and analyse the track with WLM Plus up it will the give the readings.

@Mahsher 3 года назад

Thank You!

@naseemrashid4357 4 года назад

I did same steps in my project but my colleague use to say me that you are doing wrong way.I was doing in correct way thanks you sir for this wonderful video tutorial.

@AudioMasterclass 4 года назад

You're welcome. DM

@clicks59 Год назад

Great video. Thanks! I recently purchased this plug-in and was looking for a good tutorial on how to use it. My only question is when you did your final measurement, wouldn’t the muted track add to the gain on the master track? Aren’t the original track and bounced track combined?

@HighQualityOnthebeat 4 года назад

I Also like my Master in the right 👍🏽

@lhng9018 3 года назад

Very helpful video quick tutorial, David. Thank you. If I use the different presets available and manually set my target LUFS to -16 and TP at -1.0, will there be a "difference" in the final audio? I am using Cubase Ai10 and trying to find "bounce" equivalent . haaa Tks

@AudioMasterclass 3 года назад

Any limiting of the master will change the sound. I see three options - 1. Prioritise loudness because everyone else is trying to be loud and you need to be competitive. 2. Prioritise your music and go easy on the loudness. 3. Work in a genre where the sound of limiting is considered a good thing. There isn't one right solution here but the key is to give your listeners what they want. 'What they want' is something we, as creators, have to work out. DM

@lhng9018 3 года назад

@@AudioMasterclass Thanks David, :-)

@shawnb3d 2 года назад

Nuendo has this built in. I have Cubase 10.....v12 soon. Will this work in Cubase.

@roberto.braga_ 3 года назад

The Bounce trick worked fine on Cubase 10.5 too. Great!

@alanscott2422 2 года назад

Hi Roberto, my I as you where you found the bounce/trick in Cubase?

@roberto.braga_ 2 года назад

@@alanscott2422 you have to export the track as you would normally do. It takes less time than listen to the whole track with the WLM inserted. While exporting, the sistem "plays" the track quickly and sets the lufs as they currently are. You can discard the track exported.Then you set the target, gain, everything.

@alanscott2422 2 года назад

Roberto Braga Many thanks

@ludovicgirardin8435 4 года назад

Hi, i've a question about live streaming. what's the right way to mesure a live feed ?

@AudioMasterclass 4 года назад

We're not sure what you mean. Do you mean measure the level of a song streaming from Spotify for instance?

@ErwinFonseca 3 года назад

Any idea how to do the Bounce trick in Ableton Live 10? Thank you!

@AudioMasterclass 3 года назад

I don't have an easy answer for this, but I would have thought that if Ableton can bounce faster than real time then the method should be the same. The idea is to make a temporary bounce (I like to call the file temp.wav or something similar to prevent errors in identification later), then use the settings that WLM comes up with for the real bounce. If Ableton can't bounce faster than real time (I've used this software but I'm not an expert), then the bounce trick will not be available. DM

@shubhamlad2102 3 года назад

Nice

@kenmccormack7297 4 года назад

Nice little tutorial - those are bugs in the software code rather than quirks :). Is that a Cumbrian accent? Keep up the good work!

@AudioMasterclass 4 года назад

North East actually, but it's a long time since I lived there. There is a fine difference between quirks, where software works as the developer intended it but it doesn't work the way a real-world user might expect it to, and bugs which are clearly errors. I've a feeling that in this case (resetting the meter) the developer would say, "What? That's the way it's supposed to work." which makes it a quirk. Personally I think that if I press a button I should get the result I want immediately. Or is that just my quirk? DM

@ZehNettoOficial Год назад

Awesome video! Thanks! Talking about strange things in technology, you might know the difference between hardware and software. Hardware you kick and software you swear. 🤣 Best!

@_Trakman 3 года назад

what does the interleaved check box do?

@AudioMasterclass 3 года назад

If you mean in the Bounce panel, it allows you to select the file format - mono, separate files for left and right, or stereo. 'Interleaved' here means a normal stereo file.

@GTSongwriter Год назад

This plug-in doesn't work in Cakewalk 2022.06 build 034

@Sujimon1 2 года назад

Hi Sir, Explained very well. But Sir, in that case we need not use compressor on Voice over channel? Just clean the track to avoid pops, inhale/exhale noises, can we do normalizing the track and keep it in the mix? Another doubt is...should we put WLM on the Master channel as a last plug in to check True Peak and check Output ceiling levels?

@AudioMasterclass 2 года назад

Your first question - it depends how much loudness variation you want or can tolerate. If it's just speech, then you might want to keep the natural variation, unless you're trying to create an exciting sound then compression is a useful component of that. If there is a music bed, it is more likely that you will want to reduce the dynamic range of the speech to maintain intelligibility. Regarding WLM, the best place for it is the last plug-in on the master. DM

@Sujimon1 2 года назад

Thank you Sir. As you have mentioned in Video, should we keep a level -23 db in final mix (For a Song) and -14db in Mastering, am I right?

@ojamajo83 3 года назад

Does the plug-in works in Pro Tools 11?

@AudioMasterclass 3 года назад

That's a good question but I don't know the answer for sure. Waves will probably be your best source of reliable information. DM

@mattcoen 4 года назад

I use the bounce technique regularly in Logic Pro

@AudioMasterclass 4 года назад

Thank you for the info - good to know it works in Logic. If users of any other DAWs find that the bounce technique works (or doesn't work), we would love to know that too.

@hakansoder5279 3 года назад

@@AudioMasterclass I was really hopeful about the bouncing technique. Unfortunatly it wasn't doing very well in Vegas pro 14. Only the momentary levels showed respons.

@ImpulsiveWandering 4 года назад

How come when I open the plugin, my master gain goes insanely high? I can't figure out how to use this thing, it's making my music sound horrible.

@AudioMasterclass 4 года назад

That seems unusual behaviour. You best source of help will be Waves' support. I've used their support in the past and they were helpful and quick. DM

@ImpulsiveWandering 4 года назад

@@AudioMasterclass Just called them. I didn't realize there are multiple versions downloaded at once and FL Studio users must load & use the plugin that says "WLM Plus Stereo" as oppose to the one I was trying to use called "WLM Plus 5.0".

@AudioMasterclass 4 года назад

@@ImpulsiveWandering Thank you for that. It's a useful tip for anyone in the same position. DM

@evertontrindaderisso8855 3 года назад

how to use WLM in live? on recorded tracks is just to put on the master, but live? how to use this on a Facebook live for example?

@AudioMasterclass 3 года назад

For live broadcast or streaming, you could set the target LUFS and true peak maximum, engage the limiter, then keep your eyes on the short-term LUFS figure. How you get that into Facebook Live would be an interesting question. Let me know when you find out. DM

@evertontrindaderisso8855 3 года назад

@@AudioMasterclass I found a way to use it. Just send the audio to a DAW (I use REAPER). put WLM as the last of your plugins, then just send the audio to OBS using the ReaStream plugin.

@evertontrindaderisso8855 3 года назад

@@AudioMasterclass for WLM to work on REAPER you have to press the "play" button on it because as there will be no tracks on REAPER it will not work if you do not press.

@rodrigopessoa1795 2 года назад

yes I can hear a tenth of a db thank u for asking

@billsyrell872 4 года назад

Works just fine in Reaper

@AudioMasterclass 4 года назад

Thank you for the info. We appreciate your input.

@DanielDiazMusic 3 года назад

AFAIK the peak limiter reading is red because you switched on the limiter and it was engaged during playbak, turning red at that precise moment: you set -1 and after playback it is reading -1 , that's ok but your audio went above that and the limiter did its job. If it didn't (your audio peaks at -1.1 or lower) it should look grey.

@AudioMasterclass 3 года назад

Hi thank you for your comment. The limiter has to be switched in for the WLM Plus to do this part of its job. If the audio peaks at -1.1 dBTP or lower then the limiter isn't needed and the peak reading remains grey. But normally to achieve -16 dBTP for Apple Music (for example), or certainly -14 dBTP for RU-vid then there will have to be some limiting. Why the peak reading turns red at 1.0 dBTP, when that is set as the acceptable maximum, is a mystery, or possibly something Waves didn't fully consider. DM

@DanielDiazMusic 3 года назад

@@AudioMasterclass ok, I see that it could be weird for that POV , but I guess is intended by Waves. The way I use it: i control my output gain form the master bus (the Master volume or the makeup if I'm using a mastering compressor on the master bus) so I turn on the peak limiter on the WLM+ "just in case" as a safety thing. So it is useful to learn if the peak limiter was actually engaged during mastering or if my levels (before WLM) are ok. I don't know why but if I want to use a Limiter to raise volume by 1.5 dB (as you do on the video) I tend to use a dedicated mastering limiter, but perhaps the WLM+ 's as good. Cheers dd (thanks for your very useful video BTW)

@ciantisdall 4 года назад

I have been using the WLM plus meter, my question is how significant are a few 'overs' if the meter still gives an average longterm of -14 at the end of the track? Will this affect how Spotify compresses the track? should I go back and tame the 'overs' before I upload? And should I be set to "Dial" mode for a podcast? Thanks

@AudioMasterclass 4 года назад

From our reading of the manual, 'overs' are sections of the audio that are louder than the 'short max' setting that the user makes. This does not affect the audio but informs the user of an unusually loud section of the track. But if things sound the way you want them to, then everything is OK. Regarding DIAL for your podcast, if the whole programme is speech with no other audio and no sections that - for whatever reason - are intended to be very low in level, then you shouldn't see any difference between the three methods. If you do include music, we would be inclined to use EBU or LM1 to measure the whole programme. Regarding Spotify, going forward then ITU 1770 is the standard to work to, which is available in the WLM. If your work sounds good and measures correctly, then it should be OK for Spotify. Having said all of this, the real loudness experts are those who work in broadcast and handle loudness day-to-day so if anyone with such experience would like to add a reply, please do.

@hhobegginernew 2 года назад

True peak value is not a target value, it’s an alarm and limiter value, that’s why its red alerting you that you’ve reached max value.

@AudioMasterclass 2 года назад

Your interpretation makes good sense. Waves' manual states "When True Peak loudness exceeds the maximum value, the display appears in red until the peak hold numeric display is reset.", which isn't the same as what actually happens because the display turns red on -1 dBTP exactly. I'd prefer green perhaps so that it acts as an alert but also says that everything is OK, and red when it's actually over, but I'll take your point and consider myself alerted. DM

@laszlolugosi4242 3 года назад

I don´t understand why RU-vid has -8 LUFS loudness on many music videos but i should go for -14 LUFS.

@AudioMasterclass 3 года назад

What I've found is that anything up to -14 LUFS is OK. Anything louder will get turned down. If you know of a video that plays at -8 LUFS I'd be interested to hear it. DM

@laszlolugosi4242 3 года назад

@@AudioMasterclass I rechecked my claim and i looked at my projects where i put the reference tracks in. I made screenshots with the WLM-Plus and also i can provide links to the songs (i doubt you will like the songs). DM in form of an E-mail? Thank you for taking a look into it.

@AudioMasterclass 3 года назад

@@laszlolugosi4242 You can find an email address at the Audio Masterclass website. I'll look out for your message. DM

@EgoShredder 4 года назад

The Loudness War is over? If only! We still have to suffer people producing Hip Hop and (c)Rap and various Club Muzak at EXTREME VOLUME, BASS AND PUMPING COMPRESSION.

@AudioMasterclass 4 года назад

I agree, I was being a little over-optimistic in my comment. But I think it's reasonable to say that things are a lot better than they were. More progress will be welcome. DM

@EgoShredder 4 года назад

@@AudioMasterclass True, I have seen some green shoots of recovery in other genres in recent years.

@branchyapple Год назад

crappy plugin, it only increase the DB while i dont want that

@ZehNettoOficial Год назад

The minimum difference I can hear is one dB.

@nichttuntun3364 4 года назад

I really liked your kind of teaching. But due to the amount of Waves plugins you are using, don't want to support your channel further more. Cheers

@AudioMasterclass 4 года назад

Just to be clear, we don't receive any payment from Waves or any software developer to feature their products. We may accept NFR licences or educational discounts but Waves has never offered and we haven't asked.

@nichttuntun3364 4 года назад

@@AudioMasterclass That´s a fine thing :) Keep up the great work. Cheers

@frankwyatt1982 4 года назад

and the problem with waves plug ins is?

@nichttuntun3364 4 года назад

@@frankwyatt1982 Some are okay some are great. This is more concentrated towards Waves and their business model. I don't want to go into detail.

@DjSuperK 4 года назад

@@nichttuntun3364 huh? Whatever dude! If the damn thing works I will use it regardless of the brand. Shit Ill buy a vst from the dollars store if they sold them! Lol as long as they get the job done why be so negative!!

@billsloyer 7 месяцев назад

Very helpful, thank you!

@DharmenderKumar-he6uz 3 года назад

Hi, i've a question about live streaming. what's the right way to mesure a live feed ?

@AudioMasterclass 3 года назад

The WLM Plus can monitor short term loudness level so if you know the required LUFS then you can set that as the target. You'll see a green tick in the short term window when the level is good. You can also use the true peak limiter to set the maximum output level. The other informal method is to compare your streams by ear with other streams on similar topics. If your loudness is similar, then your listeners will be OK with that. It is important to be loud enough, and not too loud that the streaming service applies too much limiting, but other than that your audience cares most about your content.