This has to be soul crushing for those kids. How does a mother explain that to their young minds and hearts? I think there is a special kind of hell awaiting a person like him. Ashley is such a smart, kind, articulate person. How is this happening? It seems like her own dad was not a positive force in her life and now she just married her OWN dad. I want to vomit.
The sad part is that the kids probably don’t care much at this age but will feel the impact later on and be unpacking it once Tyler has moved on with life.
When Tyler was talking to his mother on the day of the wedding and was crying, I thought for a second his tears were falling because he was feeling conflicted about lying and leaving his children behing, but... NO! Wtf 🤷🏼♀️
I have it on good account that Taylor is a smart, thoughtful, grounded person. I know a very astute person who worked with her. Glad her connection with the G-man worked out. Wishing them years of happiness!
Thank you both, love watching you guys talk about this show... have you considered doing this for other reality shows? Would totally watch you both chat about survivor etc. You guys have great podcast chemistry and are very funny.
First Tyler said he was a nuclear security officer then he said he was an account manage. Finally, on the Viall podcast he said he installs temporary walls for a living. Nothing this guys says seems to have any truth to it!
Marissa may have dodged a bullet. I was saying out loud, "Marissa, you are a lawyer. Walk in your lawyer truth and wait for the man that's your equal. You deserve the best.
@@VoicesEnEspanol I love that we are like a CFB team fanbase who is upset at reporters for not asking the coach "the tough questions" after a blowout loss.
Love the idea of Marissa and Tim becoming good friends! They don’t have to date or get married but I feel like Tim treats women w respect. THESE are the reasons I love watching you two!! You make us think.
I don't have a problem with Ramses being as honest as he could be as soon as he was convinced she wasn't the one for him. I certainly don't "hate" him for his feelings or lack thereof. Who wants to fail at marriage a second time because they're unsure. Contestants know when they leave his show they could be broken hearted. Marissa took the chances with her Cancer-Leo-Leo, perhaps she will make more reasoned choices next time.
I’m watching the season again, because I think I slept through a lot of the episodes. I’m listening to these men talking about “ needing to feel safe” and “ women holding their insecurities.” I’m like….what is happening here?!?! Maybe I’m too old now, but I know that feeling of safety comes with time and commitment to each other with actions by both parties. Not just words.
I feel like without knowing Tyler's side fully it's hard to make any conclusions. However, the one thing that stuck with me after listening to this is the fact that he deleted all of the photos of his children. If it is possibly true that rather than him abandoning his children, it's that the mother was keeping them from him, why would he then delete any evidence of being their father and being active in their lives? So for that reason, I do think that he's the one lying in this situation.
Loved the recap show! It’s better than the actual show. Hannah is totally going to get off much lighter than she should. She’ll get cover from the other cast mates on the bottom of your ranking list. Reading that the reunion has been filmed and then other places that it hasn’t been.
Anyone paying attention to the show would have known the Marissa and Ramses breakup was foreshadowed in the episode 1 montage… I was just waiting for them to highlight the reason. That relationship was seemingly based on physical attraction, and sex in my opinion. unfortunately, that lust stage was short lived. I didn’t buy them together in a marriage.
I agree. Tbh I don’t get the Ramses hate though. He was looking for an out but didn’t have the guts to just say what he needed to but he really wasn’t that bad imo.
@@dantan1249 I believe that the only way he could have won was to not participate. Surely there has to be easier ways to have sex in this day and age right? I could be wrong, since I haven’t been single in some time and my wife would rarely ever deny me of my physical needs as her husband. Thank God for that. Blessings come to those who are worthy I suppose?
34:45 💯💯💯💯. David, that's so true: there are a lot of deadbeat parents that pull the sympathy move - and it shockingly/disappointingly works until the same deadbeat flips the scrip on their next ex.
finale was basically 15 minutes lol. Marissa Ramses breakup and Ashley's dad talkin about the weather. Skipped Taylor and Garrett cause they obvs were gonna get married. Happy for them ofc they had the most deserving love in the show!
I really think after the friendship interview with Marissas friends is when to me Ramses started to check out. The hard stance on the military provided a noticeable shift for me after that. You saw those scenes of him saying he was in his own head and overthinking everything. I don't think he's as big of a villain as people want him to be
There used to be a $50,000 penalty for not breaking up at the wedding. Production claims they never enforced that and they have now removed that clause from the contract. Most likely this is part of the lawsuit settlement
Ramses stated that people had questioned his sexuality and I believe that he is confused or trying to hide something. The man he spoke with (one on one). at the tuxedo fitting was giving really weird vibes.
@@leaticethomas3266 You could just not say it? The same person who allowed you to comment allowed me to as well. If you wanna look weird, be my guest. You're not gonna get arrested. 😆
I think Hannah and Stephen are going to get a pass by the Lacheys. Ramses is going to get the worst treatment at the reunion followed by Tim. The Lacheys will conveniently neglect to ask Tyler any probing questions about his lies because he and Ashley are still married and Netflix doesn't want things to get too messy publicly because it is a Jerry Springer like situation with Tyler and his baby mama drama.
At the reunion I want Marisa’s Mom to come out as a surprise guest, and watch it turn into a Jerry Springer episode as she tries to make good on her promise to that dirtbag Ramses 😂
Oof I do not like Tim. He seems so emotionally abusive and controlling and I feel like Marissa could be easily pushed around by him, but they could have fun in the short term I’m sure
Story time with Rikki had all the tea and receipts on Tyler and Jessie Woo and Rikki did an interview with Bri’s ex wife. The first child allegedly was conceived naturally too but no proof. This video doesn’t have the latest tea. It’s so deep. Bri is not innocent either. She made it seem like th ex wife just left her while she was pregnant when allegedly she cheated on her with Tyler and the ex wife wanted to do the pregnancy through a sperm bank but Bri insisted on Tyler being the donor. Tyler also participated in threesomes without his ex fiancé while he was engaged to her. Allegedly Bri was also apart of these threesomes. So both the ex wife and the fiancee were played. They didn’t split until after the first child was born and she had been sneaking around the ex wife’s back and having Tyler visit their child. Tyler even petitioned to have Bri’s ex wife parental rights taken. Bri was allegedly physically abusive. There’s so much more to this story but I feel bad for the children because they are the ones that are collateral in this situation unfortunately. He also owes several women thousands of dollars under the guise of funeral cost for family members that have passed. One of those women he was trying to go over her place on 10/24/2023 (there’s text message receipts) while he was with Ashley. He’s manipulative and a swindler. ru-vid.com5eDwrzgidpQ?si=nRZSEjpovCHI6PT1
I think rams intentions never was to get married and went on show just for the physical aspect he came on the wrong show should not have been on this one
It felt like Marissa was going to go for the other dude until Ramses was like my moon is in Cancer and then she was not thinking rationally after that.
Ha ha i thought the duck race! I forgot about Katie. She decided he wasn't mature enough and eliminated him, so I think no for Katie. He did say she duck lady was bad, right?
I hate to say it, but there is a worst case scenario below Ashley standing by her man. Not everybody is interested in helping raise another woman’s kids.
Damn they didn’t bring up the interview that Tyler’s baby mom ex put out the other day. According to her Tyler and the baby momma is on some funny business
Taylor and Garrett are not the "power couple" of this season. They are (at best) the "Amy and ... whatever Amy's husband's name is" from last season. Now, I'll get up out of your comments section until the reunion.
Poor marissa. I relate to her more than anyone on LIB that I have seen. She's gonna be just fine. ❤ I genuinely think a part of Ramses is jealous of Marissa (because he could NEVER) and he resents her for that. And don't you DARE subject marissa to Tim's rigid ass. Lol! Tim could never keep up. That man is a DUD.
I still question the longevity of Garrett and Taylor. And I think his mom still has issue with Taylor not being 100% white. Maybe Mama Garrett get over it time, but tolerate it is probably a better encapsulation.
Note- Tyler mother of kids was in the Military and she was abusive to the wife. That is why she moved back to Ca. Where she was from. Tyler wad CHEATING ON HIS fiance. And they used to have a lot of freak offs while he was engaged and Tyler never told his fiance that he was the father of the so-called sperm babies Tyler been doing a lot of line I feel so sorry for Ashley I don't trust the mother of the babies she's a liar too allegedly😮😮😮
The only way Ashley comes out looking less horrible is if she says she has been begging and pleading and praying for him to see his children since she found out he's been absent in their lives
Ashley was my favorite on the show. I really don’t like a lot of the people this seasons. Taylor had a strange personality, something was off about her.
So you did your research but argue for NICK at 4? How? It was revealed that he told everyone how unattractive he thought Hannah was and how he insulted her off camera. Her brother made a statement about how you should not believe what happened on camera and how he felt used and manipulated when he got to meet "the real Nick" after they finished filming and how sad he was for his sister. Even without that info it was obvious Nick was an entitled king baby manchild that deserved to be told what's up and it's sad Hannah had to be the one. But that doesn't mean he didn't deserve it. That man talked about cooking for her and everything and did not even know how to boil water. He is 28. NO. That pov you got there actually made everything else you say and think absolutely invalid. Also Bri's ex wife was on a Jessie Woo livestream, you should check that out, too.
OK, but what about his *OWN* photos with his children and *_his_* mother's previous posts bragging on her grandbabies?? The circumstances of his relationship with his kids' mom or the veracity of her testimony don't change any of those facts.
His name is on the birth certificate for the twins. That alone makes him at least financially responsible for them. They also can him “dad”. There’s video proof of this.
Aren’t there also judgments against him for child support? Or was that fake news? Because if so that puts it in the realm of it don’t matter if Ashley, his friends, his family, whoever is down with him/ he owes that money and now she does too.
He is a lair why you’ll looking deeper then that about Tyler was his kids at the wedding ?? Did he mention them not being there ??? Case close across the board
So with each criminal indictment or lawsuit, a judge should immediately rule -case closed -before even hearing the defendant 😂 After hearing the exposes of his ex and her ex - his side seems closer to the truth, and we haven't even heard his full story ! But we shall see at the Reunion.
@@ivapetrovska9986 he not showing up you really think they edit the show to make him look that bad literally at the reunion it would make the show the bad guy lol. Dude didn’t have his kids their or talk about them lied how many times including about where he work lol. Tyler own friend came out and apologized to his BM after he found out more on the truth he lied to his friends that’s why they didn’t bring the kids up on the show told them they agree to not mention them which was never the case
@@ivapetrovska9986 Tyler has lied so many times how could you trust what he says will be the truth? He said he was a donor to the 3 kids- a half truth- he was a donor to the first child ONLY. The twins were conceived naturally and he signed their birth certificate. Would a donor do that? He said he spent Christmas alone when he really spent it with the kids (there’s video and photo evidence of this). He said they don’t know what he looks like, which is another lie. So a man who constantly lies is gonna somehow tell the truth when it’s time to tell his side? I doubt it.
Tyler is not the father of the 1st child, only sp. donor, and helpful friend who stepped up after Bri's ex left the country, and registered as such so Bri would not lose and gain ful custody over her ex ! ( acc. to the stories of his ex and her ex) Maybe the plan with the twins was the same, Bri as a mother, him as a helpful friend /dad until his person came along. We should listen his side until judging.
Giiirrrll you’re clearly not keeping up with the tea. And regardless, if he decided to be an interim “daddy” for his actual children, it’s cringe and especially for him to not bring it up and lie that he doesn’t think they know what he looks like when they’ve spent holidays with him and his mom! Y’all gotta stooooppp 😂
@queen.alicia22 Girl I have been following and after hearing the facts from Bri and especially Daeshon, themselves - it began to turn around. ( if you know to analyze their testimonies and the facts provided)
