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Skynyrd. Most people only know Freebird and Sweet Home Alabama, but their catalog is so rich. One of those bands where if you are a fan, every song is a classic. The deeper the track, the better.
@MrBrenman I don't hate them, but they are way overplayed. I'm from Jacksonville and local rock radio would rarely play them because of the oversaturation. Seeing a Skynyrd show here is town is awesome because everyone know every word of every song. Out of town, you get the befuddled look when a song like Working for MCA or On The Hunt is played.
I still love Freebird but Alabama gets boring. In the UK you’d think they were the only songs Skynyrd ever wrote and most stations only play that crap four minute version of Freebird. But you’re right their catalogue is classic
Skynrd deep cuts are the best. I aint the one, gimme back my bullets, down south jukin. And others. Gimme 3 steps boring and over played free bird too i agree with you.
There is a difference between not liking a hit, because you just don't like it .... and not liking a Hit, because it was a huge hit, but too overplayed, so much that you just can't stand it anymore.
I think that you are right. Queen and Styx to my ears. All their songs that are playing on classic rock radio I never need to hear again. This is what totally drove me away from classic rock radio (along with every other band that gets played on those types of stations).
Boston's first album is that way. Radio played every single song to death. I have to remind myself that I loved all these once upon a time, before radio murdered them by cashing in. I like to watch reaction videos, where kids react to old music, just to see if they feel the same way I used to.
"Awaken" by Yes in incredible. And the epic nature of "Gates of Delirium" stretches your understanding of the near-infinite variety Yes was capable of producing. I cannot stand "Seen All Good People." Just pure repetition and overplayed. I'm glad Yes had a chart-topper with Owner of a Lonely Heart (they deserve it), and 90125 was a great album, but it was a totally different animal from their prog greatness.
exactly...... one: it was never a huge hit that would haunt everyone for decades, like some other hit songs...... second: it's a brilliant song(just like the rest of the record)
Two friends used to tell me back in the day that there's more to Blue Oyster Cult than "Don't Fear The Reaper" and more to Priest than "Living After Midnight"
Absolutely true. I do like BOC's hits along with the deep cuts, but most Priest hits aren't among their best. Breaking the Law and Painkiller are the only exceptions I can think of.
@@markandersen793 Correct. That's one reason I don't listen to music on the radio. They inevitably only play singles (of all genres) which we've all heard oh so many times. Album tracks are almost never played, and they're usually the best tracks on any album.
Pete,your youtube broadcasts are better than most of the TV shows. I love alot of the unique topics you come up with that alot of us listening to these bands have faced for years.
Steve Hackett actually played with a Genesis cover band a few years ago. Name escapes me. But it was excellent I remember that much. Anybody recalls, please post it. Thanks.
Genesis TIOA 2007 Tour proved your point, Pete! Watching the fans around me dying & crying waiting for the Collins' hits when the band were dropping Behind the Lines, In the Cage, Ripples, Cinema Show was hilarious! Only wish they played Abacab instead of Domino because the band was never was going to play Supper's Ready in its entirety again....
Late answer but anyway…had that 1992, around me couples waiting for the Hit Stuff, many i guess were not able to tell Collins‘ Solo Stuff from Genesis apart, interestingly in 1987, that was different, but 1992, i don’t remember that very well.
That reminded me the last Hudson Valley episode - when Pete said he got a compilation by The Cure and hated it. The Cure is that kind of band. The hits are ok (sometimes great), but the deep tracks are the real deal. Although, I don't think Pete would like The Cure for the deep tracks anyways.
Another band that Pete hates and I love that fits the bill is R.E.M. I despise "Shiny Happy People" and I'm pretty indifferent to some of their other singles, but the R.E.M. catalog is chock full of great deep tracks.
Me too. I think some of those hits I can always listen to because in my country they're not as famous and overplayed as it was in US perhaps. I'd still rather listen to deeper cuts and fan favorites but I don't mind Priest hits.
i personally wouldn't mind if they never played Breaking the law and You've got another thing coming.. as i never cared for these songs, even back then. Living after midnight however, i did like. Now, after hearing it a million times (which is often the reason why we start disliking hits), i often will pass on it. However, they were right with some of the other picks that were made for ''singles''. Johnny B Goode was horrible. I might be one of the only fans that really likes the Ram it down album, but i've skipped this song every time since i bought the cassette (skipping songs on cassettes, flashback to how annoying that was). :) They did come out with some great singles however. Painkiller anyone?
Cheap Trick would have to be my pick. We hear the same 2 songs over and over.... yet spin the Dream Police album and every song is a friggin mindblower.
Very interesting show. Queen is a great example. Love the hits but it’s amazing how many people have never even heard Queen I or Queen II which boggles my mind. IMO both those albums are masterpieces with Queen II being one of the top five best albums ever made.
1000%. I do still have a lot of love for the hits, but you're dead on with the first two albums. I mean "March of the Black Queen"?! "News of the World" too, with fantastic songs like "Fight from the Inside", "Sleeping on the Sidewalk", and "All Dead, All Dead".
Dead on, comment, my friend! I put SHEER HEART ATTACK with those music treasures. I only wish they would remaster those early Queen albums-sonics are very thin and neutered.
Wow!! I’m looking forward to, The Sweet ‘ Rebel Rouser ‘ book!! Thank you, “Martin Popoff “ for mentioning this book!! I appreciate it!! I love SWEET!! Long live SWEET forever!!🎼🎤🎸🎵🥁
Desolation Boulevard and Give Us A Wink rock hard! Dig all the catchy early stuff as well! UNDERVALUED BAND! Musicians know the greatness of Sweet-a helluva lot of their tunes have been covered by many bands!
You make a perfect point concerning Yes, Pete. My sister got tickets to Yes in 2012 and asked me to go, which I happily agreed to. It was a great show, though a venue was a bit small for them and their sound. Still, I enjoyed the concert. They played a lot of their old stuff, none of the song from the eighties and beyond. My sister was expecting, though she didn't say, them to play Owner of A Lonely Heart and so on. When they didn't, she asked me if I wanted to leave. I told her no, I wanted to see the show. She spent the majority of the concert on her phone or sitting, looking board. After the show, she acted as if it was the worst concert she'd ever been too and even apologized for taking me. I just do not understand how most people can only love a band for a few simple songs that have been worn out by the radio. It's sad.
It's quite interesting how some people are like that. The best thing with a band like Yes, was always be wide open and be willing to hear anything and everything. She would have probably liked the more recent "Anderson, Rabin, Wakeman" tours they did a few years back...
Bohemian Rhapsody came on my radio recently while driving and I ended up flipping the station. It’s just one of those songs like Stairway, Foxy Lady etc that I never need to hear again 🙄
David Bowie has got to be the king of famous artists who have extensive back catalogs of quality music mostly unknown to the general public. Every time I hear some Boomer or Gen Xer extol the songs "Suffragette City," "Rebel Rebel" and "Let's Dance," I know I am dealing with a poseur who has never really bothered to listen to any of Bowie's albums in their entirety.
Sort of like a GenZ or Zoomer that think they know it all. Yes; super annoying. I know people from your generation that just like the hits of classic artists. It's not a generational thing. You are not special.
I heard "going for the one" never bought another Yes record I heard "long live rock and roll no more Rainbow I heard "spot the pigeon ep" no more Genesis
Midnight Oil - mostly remembered for "Beds Are Burning", "Blue Sky Mine", "Dead Heart", "Dreamworld", "Forgotten Years", "King of the Mountain" and "Truganini". GREAT BAND! It's a shame more people haven't listened to the incendiary albums they recorded in the early 80's... 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1.... Place Without a Postcard... Head injuries... Red Sails In the Sunset... Those were their true peak years. From 1986 onwards, they softened their sound for the American market and started writing catchy hit songs for radio play.
those were also my least favorite Cheap Trick songs, I wish their earlier 80's ballads like "Stop This Game", "If You Want My Love" and "Tonight It's You" were bigger hits.
I never liked All My Love or D'yer Maker and back in the day I had about 30 plus vinyl Zep bootleg so I think I would be considered a fan. But man classic "krock" stations love shoving those 2 crap songs down your throat.
@@mikek8553 I was a tape trader back in the day and had tons of Zep bootlegs. I was a fanatic. I can barely listen these days. I still will tell you I'm a die hard fan though. Yay another 40 minutes of Dazed and Confused... but this one is from 73! LOL
Another one I cant stand is Over the Hills and Far Away, Thats another one that Classic Rock stations have played to Death -but with exception of the Líve version from How the West was Won, its weird but the live version doesnt bother me.
Stranglehold by Ted Nugent used to be a song that I was indifferent to until one time when it came on the radio when I was driving alone at night and the long bass sequences made for some killer atmosphere. Quite literally, as it made me feel like I was a hitman out on a job or something, instead of just driving home which is what I was doing.
I hate Ted Nugent - especially as the poor excuse for a human being that he is - but "Stranglehold" deserves its place as an all-time classic epic groove rocker.
@@mck7646 I think I was reacting to a discussion near the end of this video and I forgot the title was "Hate". I like most of Rush's "hits", but their "non-hits" are so great, it's a shame more people don't know them, too. I agree with your statement.
Journey - Don't Stop Believin' Queen - Another One Bites the Dust Def Leppard - Pour Some Sugar On Me Aerosmith - I Don't Want to Miss a Thing Scorpions - Still Lovin' You Led Zeppelin - Dyer Maker AC/DC - Moneytalks
My friend did some local radio show once and wanted me to help him with the setlist. I've sneaked Sails of Charon and he later criticized me for it, he expected those hit songs.
Scorps' suffered from balladitis, a problem quite a few metal bands were afflicted with back in the day......Steven Tyler never did find a cure for this terrible disease.
As a Queen fan, started with hits, around 10-11 years old, but going deeper in their catalog...so many hidden gems! Also I heard that The Show Must Go On was not very popular hit in US, but here in Europe, especially in eastern Europe it was playing from everywhere! And according to Brian May, his favorite Queen song is The Miracle!
Definitely agree with Twisted Sister. This is a band I never cared for, until I saw a live concert on youtube. The first few songs they played were ones I never heard before, and thought 'Holy crap, this band is amazing!' Those songs I'd never heard before sounder nothing like their radio hits! It made me regret disregarding this band for so many years (decades actually).
Usually when I would hear I bands songs for first time I would either a. Not like them so stop following Or B.like the songs so buy album and listen to whole album . Or C. Like songs or love songs buy album and usually like sound of band therefore I like the whole album I didn't dive deep into bands unless Initially liked their music This is why I love your show Pete and I tune it several times a week !
Too true about Def Leppard and Judas Priest. Oddly enough, when I used to teach English in South Korea, I learned that Priest's "Before the Dawn" was a well-known hit over there. I remember hearing playing once at a Haagen-Dazs.
@@Kongorlobo When I first moved there in 2006, one of the grocery stores (Home Plus) would play Deep Purple's "Highway Star" and Ozzy's "Goodbye to Romance." Some other bands that were really popular in Korea were Helloween, Royal Hunt, and (one of my favorite '70s prog bands) Camel.
Totally agree with your comments about Genesis (even though I am from England). One of my favourite bands since hearing Foxtrot on its release in 1972. Great show - thanks.
I think Thin Lizzy qualifies for this. The Boys Are Back In Town and Jailbreak are about all you're gonna hear on the radio. Even Cold Sweat (minus a jaw-dropping solo) isn’t as impressive as this band was capable of being. They have tons of songs better than these.
I wouldn't say I hate those songs though - they are three stone cold classics. Thin Lizzy do have some great stuff that you never hear on the radio though
wholeheartedly agree on Thin Lizzy. One of my favorite bands, but damn, I've heard those two songs long enough for a lifetime... Give me Cowboy Song, Black Rose, Emerald, etc.
@@briandunlap8534 and a real variety too. I love later stuff like the Thunder and Lightning album and the folky stuff, and even Sarah. A personal favourite is do anything you want to do (the sentiment means so much to me). But strangely I have never liked Emerald - and that's a big fan favourite.
Pete, you hit the nail, right, smack, bang, on the head. Non, rock/metal/prog stations thrive on their listeners having the attention span, of about five minutes. So they force feed them, all the catchy, samey songs and ram them down their throats. Not my friends but 99% of people I have worked with, over the years, fall into this category. You play them something, other than the radio hits and they go, WTF is that.
The band that immediately comes to mind is Genesis. I hated their "hit factory" era, but I loved this band, especially the albums ranging in time period from The Lamb through Duke.
I whole-heartedly agree. I bought the complete albums collection they put out a while back, and am just now finishing up going through it all. GE are so underrated it's a shame. So, so much more than their two hits.
Just got the new "Moontan" re-release with the extra CD......it's got some really good stuff on it! I would recommend it from what I"ve heard so far on it.
Great show. I'd go with.... Paranoid - Sabbath Ace of Spades - Motorhead Place Your Hands - Reef And, speaking as a Brit, I'd be more than happy to NEVER hear anything post-Duke by Genesis ever again.
Oh "United". So many memories of a bunch of drunk teens, arms around shoulders, singing along to that masterpiece. It's about the only disagreement I have with these lists.
Pete's speeches about people who only care about the hit songs of a band really speak to me. Whenever I was in high school (It still happens now too) and someone mentioned they loved one of my favorite bands I'd have a brief moment of excitement and then a familiar feeling of disappointment when that person only knew 2-3 songs. I won't use the term "love" with a band unless I know A LOT of their songs, not just 2-3. Ozzy in particular is a great example, I meet tons of people who "LOVE!" Ozzy Osbourne and they know maybe 2-3 songs....he's been making music for 50 fucking years, he's got more than 2-3 songs!
Golden Earring would be a great example of this. Everyone only knows Gaydar Love and Twilight Zone(which I don’t mind at all I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of that song).
That’s a matter of personal taste. What makes white lions version so great. It sounds like worthless outdated hair metal to me. They did nothing new with it necessarily. Adding stupid hair metal guitar gymnastics? . Otherwise I dunno. I don’t get it! And in the live setting GE would rock that song much harder than the tamer studio version.
couldn't agree more...and you kinda touched on my biggest complaint with your spot on genesis analysis...it's o.k. when you dig music by a cetain artist or band, like genesis or fleetwood mac, but...when you say that they're your favorite band and you don't even know who peter gabriel or peter green are...that's just wrong.....it's funny to see a fleetwood mac 'fan' see one of the older album covers and they're like '...i never saw this one...is it new...'.......it's like when someone says 'johnny depp is my favorite actor'', yet they only know the pirates of the caribbean movies....blue oyster cult was another great example...their first three albums, which are their best, get ignored while the drippy 'burnin' for you' is on every playlist....sad...stay well guys...stay warm...peace....rocky
Yes, and they never wanted to be a singles band. They hated the idea and were totally in albums. They had a forceful manager too, who pushed their idea very well.
With LZ, there is no separation. They didn't make hits. They made the industry bend to them, not the other way around. (Gert Hirschfeld above me in this thread is 100% right).
I like hit singles, as they can draw me in, and regard the album tracks better over time, over the hit I initially liked. It's only when the hit sticks out like a sore thumb that it doesn't belong on the album.
18:06-19:00 - That's how it is each time I saw Anthrax and the one time I saw Public Enemy. A handful people at the shows only knew 'Bring the Noise' and that was it. The first time I heard a few people talk about that song was in the line-up before the gig and I'd just facepalm. One time I spoke up saying "You know they have more then one album or song for that matter right?" Those people would just look dumbfounded.
great topic gentlemen: first bands that comes to mind has to be judas priest, queen and KISS. I get mad now when I hear youve got another thing coming or another one bites the dust. Show me exciter or flick of the wrist. Rock and roll all night is dead to me but those tunes they rode on stage cold gin, strutter, cmon and love me, deuce, firehouse hotter than hell?? That last minute after the singing on hotter than hell when Paul changes up the tempo with that riff, Ace dives into a lead and Gene is hammering away - still gets me. Reading other folks agree on Metallica too, I played out the whole black album (my fault) by 1993 and also the dude who said fleetwood mac YES. The entire harlot era of the band is flawed compared to what Peter Green started. Rattlesnake shake alone
I was a great Queen fan... but then came 'The Game'....game over!... From 1980 onward, I was out. The two songs in 'The Game' where 'the Queen sound' is audible were 1979 singles... To your point Mr Poppoff, I too had some issues with 'Crazy little thing called love', but I'll take it over anything that came afterwards...
An ode to the studio album and to the deep cut. when Bohemian Rhapsody comes on the radio, I switch over. But I'll happily listen to it as part of the album it came from. Good on you guys.
Yes . Many songs work well as part of the Whole musical statement. This hits sell the album but might not / don t represent the entire work. Queen , P. Floyd , Supertramp are some examples.
I saw Chicago about 10 times - the last time was the 50th anniversary of the 2nd album which they played in it's entirety before an intermission and then played the hits. everyone in the audience were groaning and booing, screaming out the hit songs to play - yelling out "stop playing the new songs" LOL - they finished the album with 25 or 6 to 4 and took a break and everyone was like "they just started playing the good songs and now they're taking a break???"
Judas Priest (Give me any Priest over the four songs the radio plays) Metallica (This was a no-brainer for their 90s hits and overplayed early cuts like Seek & Destroy) Ozzy Osbourne (Beyond tired of Crazy Train and Mama I'm Comin' Home) Bob Seger (Old Time Rock and Roll can retire to the nursing home) Alice In Chains (Really getting sick of Man In the Box and Down In a Hole)
Mama I'm Coming Home I never liked but I had to play it live a few times with a local cover band, it was so annoying. Funny enough, guys from that band never heard classics like Over the Mountain when I showed them. Metallica's 90s hits are awful, especially Fuel which I luckily dodged playing with that same cover band. Seek and Destroy I have played numerous times though, unfortunately. Good song but not great, I always thought that was the weakest song on the album (ignoring Anesthesia), too easy mid-tempo riff and unnecessarily long song (tbf many Metallica songs should have been shorter).
What's the 4th Priest song you hear over and over again? I only hear "You've Got Another Thing Coming," "Living After Midnight" and "Breaking The Law." Occasionally, I might hear "Heading On To The Highway," but not too often.
@@midohiobuckeyeaorwarrior9743 Turbo Lover maybe? It's very commercial sounding but I like it. Painkiller perhaps because it's very popular, although not on mainstream radio but on YT and among metalheads. Not an easy sing along song though but a shredfest and you can't really get tired of that song unless you only play that for like a hundred times. Nothing else comes to my mind what would be 4th most overplayed JP song.
@@rick6582CNCMedicalParts That is a hood one but I think though they are most famous for “We’re an American Band” which is a pretty overplayed/silly and not indicative of their more rockin earlier sounds.
I wish I can start my own radio show that plays songs that aren’t played more than once every damn day! Imagine living your life only listening to the hits that bands made...
I’ve seen various iterations of Yes live around 18 times, and I have all their live albums and DVDs, and for years I was thoroughly bored with “Roundabout”. But after not seeing them for a couple of years, I’ve finally come back around to enjoying that one.
Dire Straits. Yes some of the early hits were great but I really don’t need to hear the Brothers in Arms hits ever again, except So Far Away. But that doesn’t get a lot of airplay
This Dire Straits fan agrees, just tired of the whole album, overplayed, overlistened....only like So Far Away and One World now, occasionally Why Worry...
For me the biggest example is the Beatles, She loves You??? Please Please Me??? Lady Madonna, Yellow Submarine? Hey Jude interestingly in the early days the Beatles showed they felt the same way by NOT PUTTING these mediocre TIRESOME hits on their albums. SURE SOMETIMES THE SINGLES ARE GREAT ('STRAWBERRY FEILDS, RAIN, PAPERBACK WRITER)! Completely agree with Pete's comments on the Grateful Dead i agree. I LOATH 'A Touch of Grey' or mediocrity like 'Alabama Get away' love stuff from Mars Hotel like 'Loose Lucy' short catchy and sharp. Their best LP is 'Blues For Allah' AND then the very underrated 'Shakedown Street' which is catchy but sharp not crappy.
15:37 funny you mentioned that Pete cause I was on the bus on a school trip once and I was playing music on speaker at the back with my mates and a couple girls asked me to play Queen (this wasn't too long after the biopic came out) and I put on Ogre Battle and their faces where just like "what the hell is this crap"
Thanks Pete and Martin for doing this list this was interesting to say the least but here are my top five bands with incessant hits that have a deeper catalogue : 1. Kiss......I've been listening to this band for over 35yrs and it's still the same songs over and over and over again......"Rock n Roll All Night"......"Shout it out Loud"......"Detroit Rock City".......etc....etc...... they have a much deeper catalogue than that 2. Van Halen.......I love Van Halen and I know I'm going to be met with pitchforks and torches on this one but it's hard to ignore the same songs over and over again......"Jump"....."Panama"......"Unchained"......"Dreams"......."Right Now"......etc......etc......again they have a much deeper catalogue than that 3. Rush.......maybe not as much as some other bands but you still hear the same songs on classic rock radio......"Tom Sawyer"......"Limelight"......"Spirit of Radio"......."Freewill"......"Closer to the Heart"........zzzzzzz.......again they have better songs than these 4. AC/DC......."You Shook me all Night Long"........"Highway to Hell"......do I have to say anymore......they have a much deeper catalogue than that 5. The Eagles......"Hotel California"......."Take it easy"......."Life in the Fast Lane"......."Long Run".....etc...etc.....zzzzzzz...... One Honorable mention : Scorpions......"Rock you like a Hurricane".........."Big City Nights"........"No one like you"......."Winds of Change"......"Still Loving You".......over and over and over again.......zzzzzzz
I disagree completely with Queen. They have great deep cuts, but their singles are generally the best songs in the album for example The Works and A Kind of Magic. Queen I and II are great, but they evolved. Novelty is not bad. Isnt innovation and how unique they are, what we like the most about Queen?
No. How many Queen studio albums have you listened to? I commented on Pete's 'Deep Tracks' edition where he covered Queen. There are so many great songs that are not on Queen Greatest Hits I & II for example, and arguably many of them are much better. I will list them, if you'll care to humour me. Some of them may have been released as singles but they weren't on the ever-present Greatest Hits compilations: Keep Yourself Alive, Great King Rat, My Fairy Queen, Liar, Father to Son, White Queen, Ogre Battle, Brighton Rock, Tenement Funster, In the Lap of the Gods Reprise, Stone Cold Crazy, She Makes Me, Death on Two Legs, I'm in Love With My Car, 39, The Prophets Song, Love of My Life, Sheer Heart Attack, Drowse, It's Late, Mustapha, Jealousy. That's plenty from the 1970s that a casual Queen fan might not be familiar with, and I'd rather listen to those songs than the majority of Greatest Hits I. You named a couple of albums from the 80s but my favourite songs on The Works are Tear It Up and Keep Passing the Open Windows! My favourite song on A Kind of Magic is Gimme the Prize but it's an average album by them and was written as a soundtrack to Highlander. I think Queen are perfect for this topic, sorry.
@@thecocomastiux3655 Fair enough. Also when Pete calls some Queen songs 'novelty' songs, I don't think he means unique or original. I agree with him in the sense that some of the 'hits' can come across as a bit tongue in cheek or a bit 'cabaret' - only way I can describe it! I generally prefer Queen's heavier or proggier sound and that means deep tracks on the 1970s albums.
KIss: "Beth" and "Rock and Roll All Nite" Queen: All singles starting with singles from the album "The Game" til releasing "Who wants to live forever" as a single (exception "Flash").
@@josephdefilippis07 OK. No harm done. I saw the movie as a 9 or 10 year old at my buddy's house, and it was terrible. I thought you were saying the movie was better than the song, and if you think that, I'm cool with that, but I thought you were kidding. I'm not an asshole who thinks he knows better than anyone (there are enough of those people on RU-vid). I just found the movie to be terrible. My opinion doesn't mean that the movie WAS terrible.
Its actually really funny when i hear you guys talk shit about the phil collins years. Because im 18 yo my dad grew up with that era of the band. I really grew up loving this era. So I didnt even know about genesis being a progband. When I told this to my dad he couldnt believe it either. I always thought those were good pop songs. I guess its just a matter of age...
There's a reason most "hits" are hits, they are usually SOME of the best tracks on the albums, it's easy to say years later that songs like Photograph and You shook me all night long aren't that great after they have been drilled into your head for 40 yrs, I think most rock fans would be lying if they said they weren't pretty blown away by those songs and others when they first heard them on the radio.
Completely agree, I’m new to classic rock I’m 32 and when it’s new to me it’s great. I’ll listen to an entire album, but the hits are hits for a reason. 🤘🏾☮️
I agree, how can lesser songs b better than known ones, except maybe for epics luke suppers ready or gates of delirium or echoes which are just too long for radio
I"m sitting here chuckling as I watch/listen to this and listen to songs I really like get trashed, but then other songs I also really like get brought up as examples of great deep tracks. Excellent show again. (Except the Twisted Sister segment. I agree 100% with everything Martin said.)
It's funny Pete, when you gave the intro to your last choice, I was sure it was going to be Europe:) The 80's era (I actually dig the debut and Wings of Tomorrow) and their last 4 albums are very strong. That band is almost exclusively associated with the Final Countdown or Carrie. Too bad really, because they have some great material.
Another entertaining show. Thanks again for all the effort and insight you putting into the production. Here in the Uk you are gaining alot of traction. Thxs 🇬🇧
I live in the U.K. and I’ve been a Genesis fan from Trespass first release up to Wind and Wuthering then the rest is a load of 💩 so it’s not true that all U.K. fans are fans of the entire catalog. 🤷🏻♂️
Well, you seem to be in the minority. I've gotten plenty of ire from UK folks telling me that true Genesis fans love all eras of the catalog, and that those of us desiring to hear more of the '70s material or wanting a reunion of that line-up aren't true fans and are disrespecting the trio line-up.
@@seaoftranquilityprog in my experience, the fans of later Genesis really don’t like the early stuff. Maybe the ones watching sea of tranquility are particularly vociferous? 🤷🏻♂️😃
I’m from England 🏴 Kent I love everything Genesis has ever recorded except genesis to revaluation I have every album from 1970 to 1997 all live albums and compilation albums also every soloist albums from Peter Gabriel to Phil Steve Hackett albums Tony banks Mike and the machanics all albums and of course the new Hackett album which is brilliant I simply love genesis period
I am not British (I am European), but I also do like really most of the Genesis stuff, including the 80s music. But I know that people were very happy when Script for a Jester's Tear of Marillion came out and you could hear people say, "Wow, finally a band that takes on the early Genesis stuff again."
I tend to find that most casual listeners tend to hear the popular 80's Genesis hits, and they go, "Oh! That's Phil Collins." as opposed to confusing a Phil Collins solo track with Genesis. It tends to work the same way with Fleetwood Mac. They hear songs like "Dreams" or "Rhiannon" and call them Stevie Nicks songs, not Fleetwood Mac.
I could be wrong. The years get blurry. But Against All Odds was a movie track monster hit that sent the entire music industry down a rabbit hole. Dokken was doing Nightmare on Elm Street. Bob Seger was doing Beverly Hills Cop. AC/DC showed up in that awful Stephen King movie. It all seemed to culminate into Judas Priest doing Johnny Be Good for the cheese ball movie of the same name. Anthony Michael Hall had to go into hiding for a while. Thank God no one knew who Uma Thurman was yet or it would’ve tanked her career.
Scorpions, Police,Lynyrd Skyward fit this subject for me...save for one hit here and there...I saw Petes BOC point first hand January 2020 sitting next to twenty-something kid who barely tapped his foot through the whole set, only to push past me and run to the front to do some strange break dance move to Dont Fear...strange...
How can you hate some of those Queen hits like “Who Wants To Live Forever,” “I Want To Break Free,” “The Show Must Go On,” “Love Of My Life,” and “Crazy Little Thing Called Love.”
I love these kinds of conversations. This one is very interesting. Martin seems to be more annoyed by the labels and subsequently, radios reluctance to acknowledge an artists catalog in favor of a couple of tunes that will sell, regardless of how representative those singles are of the bands overall sound. Pete seems to focus more on his resentment towards a casual music fans ignorance. As a passionate music lover myself, I sometimes catch myself forgetting that most people treat music like artwork on the wall of a waiting room, and that is fine. I would suggest Pete that when you go to concerts in the future, focus more on the stage and less on the people in the audience. Odds are there will be enough songs for everyone. Also, I do not feel badly for any bands that "have" to play their hits, because guess what...they don't. Van Morrison hasn't played Brown Eyed Girl in probably 30 years. No one is making these bands play their hits on stage. If you resent your hit and hate it, then don't play it. The problem is that these guys know what's buttering their bread, and artistic integrity went out the window 25 years ago for most of these acts. I would imagine playing Cherry Pie or We're Not Gonna Take It at some state fair is still better than working in a factory somewhere.
Oh, I focus plenty on the stage...but it's really hard NOT to notice that while I am totally getting into what the band is playing, that the 50 people sitting around me are either talking, on their phones, or staring off into space blankly.
@@seaoftranquilityprog I respectfully disagree boss. Do you know what is worse than a band with 20 albums playing the same three hits in concert every night? A band with two albums that hasn't played a concert in 30 years because no single gained traction and they were dropped by the label. Singles are a necessary evil to generate NEW fans and revenue to add to your existing fan base. No revenue, no future compositions. Sometimes businesses have to pander to the unwashed masses by dangling the low-hanging fruit or using gimmicks (such as the cliched but effective "Top Ten" list on RU-vid) to pay the bills and create future content. You gotta do what you gotta do to keep the lights on, right? ;)
Do not believe this. I am one of those who only know Queen hits. Just went and listened to Ogre Battle......., it's now my favourite Queen song! That was awesome. Must go check out Queen back catalogue.
Europe, Queen, The sweet, Instantly spring to mind. Its not that I hate the hits but the issue I have are fans that only know the hits and especially in Queens case only own the greatest hits. I have played queen songs to queen fans and they ask me who it is........ EUROPE same thing just think its The final countdown and maybe Carrie, and they have one of the best discography ever.
