Love Unrelenting (Full Documentary) 

To those who say, " If there is no forever hell, then what's to stop me doing whatever I want?" to me says that deep down they are not really living for God through love, but through fear.

This documentary doesn't shy away from the complexity of the relevant philosophical and theological issues, nor does it avoid opposing perspectives. Great job, and thank you for putting it out there for free.

6:12 "You don't really believe it." Amen. If you really thought (sensed*) you could commit mortal sin at any moment, you'd go insane. This is why autistic (or *sensitive) people suffer from eternal hell the most. I have mild autism and was a Catholic. Hell drove me to clinical depression and near-unaliveing myself.

This deserves far more than 13k views.

God bless those that put this documentary together! The doctrine of eternal hell has plagued my mental health for years. The thought of non-believing friends or family being trapped in never ending darkness or fire forever and ever just really did a number on me. I'm now truly starting to believe that God's love for all creation endures forever without any end. Our actions can still lead us to temporary destruction or judgement but God seeks to restore all things through Christ!

Thanks be to God that the true gospel is being restored.

Wow, I haven't watched this yet but only yesterday I was starting to crack under the pressure of other Christians claiming that this message is heresy. My heart was breaking. Thank you and I look forward very much to watching this!

The prodigal son had a brother. And the brother could not fathom why the father would embrace the prodigal son after his disobedience. Thinking that God does not embrace people YOU think arent loveable only exposes two things about you: how highly you think of yourself and how limited your scope of God's mercy and power is.

The wages of sin is "DEATH" not Eternal life being tormented.

This is the best documentary on RU-vid. I'm extremely disappointed, discouraged and saddened by your channel's low view count. RU-vid may be burying your channel but if people are searching the topic they'd find it. It's unreal how few views your videos have.

God wills that no man should perish. And God's mercy endures forever. God is love. All things Scripture teaches. Taken together, how could ECT fit into this picture of the nature of God?

It's a good one. I truly appreciated seeing a Japanese congregation of universalistic Christians. It was beautiful, especially in a country that has had a very tumultuous history with Christianity. - Your Quality Apologist

So glad this documentary was made! It's been a very long wait! Thank you to all who were a part of it!

Thank you Steven for making this incredible documentary!

Those who are so hell bent (pun intended :)) on focusing on scripture (their own interpretation of it of course) always seem to forget one thing: When Jesus walked the earth, there was one group of people who thought they had it all figured out. They had scripture, the word of God and they were the true servants of God (so they thought). They were the ones who wanted Jesus dead. They hated him for hanging out with "sinners" and preaching all that "heresy". They tore their robes in anger. Its quite astonishing how the "evangelical bible believing born again servants of Christ" cant see the similarities. Read about the Pharisees again and then look at your own beliefs and argumentation. Its there in plain sight.

Many Protestants would rather believe that their Great Grandmother is eternally burning in hell than consider that they might be wrong.

"For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light"

Grateful to be apart of this with so many great minds that I look up to.

I wasn't raised in a home that ever spoke of hell. And I am so grateful. I was a seeker of spiritual Truth since I was a child and avoided Christianity until I was in my 40's. Mostly through 12 Step Program of AA, but never thought about the hell concept. It was in my 60th year that my dear wonderful friend's brother died and she said she was so glad he was "saved" because he wasn't going to hell. I was so disturbed by the whole idea of being filthy sinners needing salvation and a blood sacrifice to avoid burning forever in hell. There was no way I could sleep at night if I thought my unbelieving dad, mom or children would go to hell for a minute let alone for eternity! I hate the teachings. There's got to be a better way to love Jesus than to accept the story of blood drinking and of hell!

Aree's testimony is what it's about. And you can see the absolute peace when he shares his journey. I'm no universalist, but it seems stories like his are moving me one step closer

Thanks, great work Love Unrelenting. Many great people sharing a common theme that our Father is Love. Can't wait for the day when all will know that eternal torment is a lie and cannot be found in scripture. The all in Adam condemned, are the same all in Christ made righteous. Grace and Peace to all.

A good father would never let his children play in the street because he respects his children’s free will. A father who does that would have his children taken away. So why would a loving God give us the ability to come to earth knowing our propensity to turn away knowing He will have to torment them forever. That would not be a good loving God. I have felt God’s amazing love and I know in whom I’ve put my trust.

Yay!!! Thank you for all the work you put into this ministry of Love!

Been waiting for this documentary! Can’t wait to watch! 💖💖💖💖💖 Our Abba is love and His correction is unto righteousness!!! 🎉🎉🥳🥳

The best I’ve seen in a bit! Absolutely ❤LOVED it. THIS is truly good news.

This is so beautiful and it has brought to the surface what I have believed about God in the depths of my soul, but was covered over by so many lies about God that I have been taught throughout my life. But the truth that God is love was still beating underneath all that rubbish and anything that didn't fit with that truth caused extreme uneasiness within me. Deep down I always wished that God would save all humanity, but it seemed as too good of a thing to hope for because of free will due to my limited and erroneous view of what free will is.

VERY GOOD! Will be sharing this like crazy. You are a saint Steven for the effort in creating this and publishing it for free.

1:38:10 This interpretation of the sheep and goats has changed my life What a beautiful message I am a goat, Christ please make me a sheep so I may follow you and love my neighbors and enemies from my heart

This is all about the character of God. JN 10:10 the thief has come to steal, kill and destroy, but I have come to give you life and that more abundantly. It's very clear who tortures and who heals.

Thanks for the many kind and encouraging comments!

ECT is taught because it has no end in God. It is a perpetual wheel spinning on a path of lies. It binds people and keeps them oppressed and gives a position to the One who teaches it and a reason for the student to keep coming back over and over and over looking for answers that will never comes. ECT is taught to fill pews and offering plates but does nothing to fill the emptiness that we all need filled.

Immeasurably more than all we can ask or imagine.... Thanks!!

What definitively changed my mind from Eternal Conscious Torment was John 3:16 ironically. If the Creator gave himself with the hope that no one perish, yet there will be those who WILL perish despite the Creator’s will, then that means He, who is the highest good, CAN’T bring about the same- making him a liar or incompetent demon. If I want believe that He means what he says AND that in fact He IS omnipotence, highest goodness, and omniscience, then the only logical conclusions is that NONE will perish because that’s his will.

Excited to watch when I have the chance! Thanks for putting this together.

Wonderful, thank you! Let’s bring this great news to everyone, especially the Christian who fears Jesus due to his belief in ECT

God bless you Steven! Thanks for doing such a wonderful service for and to all of us.

Great, I have been looking forward this documentary 😍

Where sin abounded, grace did much more abound. Roman's 5:20

When scripture is read 3 dimensionally, from the inside, and not carved up from the outside, it makes sense. 1. Who is destroyed? The old man, that mode of personal becoming in rebellion against god. Who is saved? The new man, created through the intensely immanent grief, hope and joy of Christ which pervades the moral history of his universe, focussed up from his omniscience through his finite human subconscious and made complete in his sufferings and joy set before them. 2. What is lost? Potential, birthright, reward, inheritance of the firstfruits. What is saved? Sometimes just someone burned back to the primal love in which they were loved into existence in the first place, the elder now serving the younger. 3. What is the process of hell? There are many possibilities from extremely severe to relatively mild, from the corporately physical to the private fires of a conscience paraded before its responsibilities in post mortem empathy nightmares. For some, it would have been better for their mothers to have miscarried, for then they would enter salvation without trauma, and with the reward due to innocence. But god never, ever divorces wrath from grief, because he is not evil. His justice serves precisely to make someone experience his grief from the inside, in order to make them appreciate their utter lostness outside of Christ. The humbling effect of hell on the soul lasts forever, “extended into infinity” as Gregory of nyssa put it. The process itself does not, because it is a competent process designed by a wise god, and because the subject matter (a persons actual life) revealed through the process is morally rational. It is time to stop being petrified by persuasive sounding arguments to the contrary, as I was for two decades. What a waste.

Very well made, a great assortment of viewpoints and thought provoking. Thank you.

Long awaited. Great work!

This is good. thanks to whomever produced this.

Also why would a God who is Love want a heaven full of people that only love Him out of fear.

Amazing... Praise God for putting this all together with yall!! LOVE THIS! Ill spread around!!!

Simply ask an Arminian: Do you believe in hell, or do you love God out of your own free will? They must then say "both" and rationalize how they are threatened to use their free will for self-preservation, thus negating the freeness of it. It is quite a logical problem.

Thank you thank you thank you! If someone comes to this with an open heart and without fear, it cannot but be clear. "If I embrace ECT, i'm saying i believe God is a torturer." Re: annihilationism.. if you've ever loved someone, you must know it's impossible, the idea of a whole human person being snuffed out of existence. We live as persons only by an ever-richer communion with every other person. "When we look at Christ, we're gonna see everybody else. I can't imagine God annihilating His image, and us being satisfied."

2 samuel 14:14 for we will all die, and become like water spilled on the ground, which can't be gathered up again. Yet God does not take away a life, but he devises means, so that His banished ones are not expelled from Him. Jesus saves everyone. His love will bring everyone to himself. Behold I make all things new. God bless

Many Thanks. watched from Australia. Awesome work i really appreciate it and have recently (as of 2017) come to the conclusion of Christian Universalism thanks to many people who teached me the error of the idea of hell (Marz on youtube channel, David Bently Harts That All Shall be Saved & Tentmakers channel). I've always had fear of it and couldn't understand philosophically and now that's washed away with Gods Love. God Bless Y'all p.s. i am also looking forward to Eternal Theater i hope that documentary on the same topic gets released in my region.

Finally the time has come !

Thankyou thankyou thankyou, what an amazing documentary.

Excellent documentary. Thanks.

Wow!! Earlier than anticipated? Will be watching :)

This is a great and valuable documentary. ❤

Is there still hope for me after hardening my heart and having a reprobate mind.

Thank you for the end credit music it was beautiful, and I am free from the evil god i used to pray to and now i am free to worshiped The true God of the scripture. God is love.

This was a wonderful video! It is comforting to see so many teachers and authors from various backgrounds coming together in the complete victory of Christ! One of the gentleman interviewed mentioned contradictions in the bible. Understanding that Christ fulfilled the Law, the prophets and the psalms as prophesied has helped me share with others who see contradictions in scripture. We are the Kingdom now! His temple...the body of Christ. We are seated in the heavenlies! This could only be happening if the parousia occurred already. It did! The great tribulation and the appearing of our Savior occurred as prophesied during the first century. The eschatolgies of Christ as Savior of all (universalism) and His fulfillment (preterism) go hand in hand. I appreciated the gentleman who gave the history of universalism and Unitarianism. It's around the same time the church was taught futurist/dispensational eschatology. Blessings to each of you.

The worst evil is when christians try to do good..but with this FULL understanding of who God really is.. love and good become completely natural ..and that is good news for ALL who are willing to listen:"All love is from God and God is in us " all who testify about THIS God receive abudance of Life from Him...halelujah!

Superb - thank you. The Protestant 'Evangelical' "Hell Fire" denominations, are extremely marginal in the UK, being limited for the most part to the north of Scotland and N.Ireland. Yet the idea of eternal bliss or eternal torment seems to part of the popular belief about Christian doctrine. So, there's still a lot of love needed.

Just what was accomplished on the cross? "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do." Become a child and figure it out.........💕

This is a great film--it puts together the ideas I've discovered over the past few years, and it quotes many of the same authors. It's very comprehensive, and I hope to share it with people who want a starting place for us to discuss what I currently believe.

There IS no getting away or being away from God short of annihilation. God is the creator and sustainer, so there can be no apartness, as Psalm 139 says: Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there! If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there!"

I really wish we had more Christian Universalist churches, bit im glad theres at least RU-vid and other social media.

An inessential of the faith. Lovely point. None of the Christian creeds of the 1st 6 centuries teach anything remotely resembling ECT.

The problem with embracing everlasting torment etc, is that we take Jesus's rhetoric to convince people to repent literally.

"I think it's because you don't really believe it [ECT]." (6:15) - I think there's a lot of truth to this -- no, people can't *really* believe that, or they would behave quite differently. But that isn't the end of the matter: this creates a bizarre rupture in one's conscious beliefs and one's actual being in the world. One doesn't believe otherwise, one REPRESSES it -- and so this conflict gets internalized deep down and what results is all the toxic behavior that is so common in so many churches and Christians. There is an intimate link between the belief in ECT and toxic behavior. It explains why, especially among fundamentalist, why toxicity runs rampant in so many OTHER behaviors and beliefs. What they can't really swallow ends up coming out in other horribly destructive ways: sexism, homophobia, and all kinds of manichean beliefs that cause so much harm -- and they can't even see it. Where there is belief in ECT, there is, almost without fail, toxic behavior. They go hand-in-hand.

Thank you so much for making this documentary! Is there a DVD available yet?

Appreciate the perspective. I learned a bit about the universalist position but I’m still not sold on it. Chris Date’s position (based on Edward Fudge) on annihilation has substantial Biblical support and warrants serious consideration. I’ve seen Chris lay out his position on podcasts and it’s quite persuasive. Also, there’s not much serious discussion about ECT here. It’s just dismissed as having “no scriptural support” but without any discussion of why ECT has been the dominant view for 1500 years of Christian history. If you’re going to convince Christians that universalism is the more compelling view, you’ll need to present a detailed refutation of ECT. I’d love to be a universalist, if it’s true. But I’m not there, nor are many Christians today. I need to do more careful research.

A thought as I watched this. I wonder if this belief in eternal conscious torment is an example of peoples hearts growing cold as the end of this age approaches? Technically it’s been “the time of the end” since Christ came and died and rose again.

The advocates of infernalism are advocates for the worst imaginable cruelty that has nothing whatsoever to do with justice. It angers me that these people use the OT massacres as "evidence" that God runs out of patience (as though God were a human being!). What "justice" was involved in those massacres? Children were put to the sword, for God's sake! And you talk of justice!

The real good news

Excelso documental. Celebro haber podido dar con este espectáculo de material. Y debo decir que me ha sorprendido el hecho de que usted preguntase a personas bolivianas. Yo soy mitad argentino y mitad boliviano. ¡Saludos! Augusto

What is the “second death” in universalism? There must then be a second resurrection. Seems annhilationism has the most support for it.

Fantastic!

The Greek word "aion" means the lifetime of a man. The time of life.

34:30 really spoke to me.

Could have included a heading beside each introduction to clarify each persons belief, ETC etc. Without an introduction or commentary It's a bit hard to jump between interviews if you're not sure what they believe and therefore what final point each person is arguing.

I hope the old man walking coast to coast heard and now believes the Victorious Gospel

Now, *this is good news!

I find universalism compelling, but I don’t find this documentary compelling. There is too much focus on the people’s personal feelings and what would result if you believed in eternal destruction then you would have to think this or how could you feel this etc. God is providential and higher than any of our senses, so if eternal damnation is true, of course we would not understand it now. There were many good arguments here but also a lot of arguments based on how it would make people feel before and after death. Make the argument fully rooted in Hermeneutics, orthodox Christianity, and the original language of the text.

God entrusted revelation of His plan for a restoration of ALL creation to sinful man. Therefore in espousing the Gospel there is always a tension between God's everlasting love in universal restoration or restoration only of those who embrace the Calvin fundemental interpretation. The former mirroring God's love without end the latter mirroring the human hearts slant on biblical interpretation. " If you cannot see it our way it's the fire of hell for you." Ultimate universal redemption a far more beautiful message which would enemour far more to God than a God who would allow the majority of mankind to be torment for ever over an issue in our short life. COME ON 😫

Everyone who believes in Hell does not believe they are going there and why they can continue to believe no one else has any hope.

If Hitler's "crud" was burned off and if he was "destroyed", then it seems to me that's a form of annihilation even if that divine spark survives and has been freed. Frankly, I'm OK with annihilation in the case of pure evil. It makes no sense for Anne Frank and Hitler to share the same Heaven.

Please do this also for other Christian doctrines

It’s quite impossible to genuinely believe that most people go to hell, including possibly you yourself, and still live a sane life. And because of this, I think that most evangelicals and Calvinist aren’t really taking their beliefs seriously.

God is love. God wills that all shall be saved. God in Christ died for us. And yet (so the infernalists claim) God has created a universe in which most of humanity will end up suffering endlessly. Does that really seem credible?

Paul seemed quite driven (desperate even) to save people, and to lament the perishing of some of his own people. If "all will be well", I'm not sure I see where the all-consuming drive to "save" others comes from, or where the lament for those who "perish" comes from....? Thoughts?

Oh boy, the argument that you need people to suffer endless torment to give Gods love more value is just so twisted and sick. I guess parents all need at least one child chained up and tortured in the basement to make the others feel extra special then! Do these people even listen to what they are saying? Wow.

16:50 Jesus says fear the one who CAN destroy both body and soul. Not WILL.

Clearly, this is not about what the Bible is purported to "say" or not "say" (could black letters on a way white page actually speak out to help the reader disambiguate any confusion), but about what the reader both perceives subjectively through framework of their upbringing, education, cognitive capacity, stage of faith, and quality of consciousness, as well as what they project into the text from the same set of mental and spiritual dispositions and assumptions. As such, the three options of ECT, Annihilations, and Universalism can be viewed respectively through the helpful framework of developmental spiritual psychology, to which some in the Early Church held: somatic, psychical, and spiritual. David Bentley Hart, in a video on the "doctrine of reserve" has recently reminded us that these categories were not just used in gnosticism, but they were prevalent among different groups in Late Antiquity, including among the proto-Orthodox.

What was God's solution to original sin in the garden? There was consequence for the deception alloted to the ones deceived but also a covering that was given to them by God himself. Will our savoir who is God remove that covering upon the event of our death? Asked, and I think answered. What say ye?

If the kingdom of heaven is within, wouldnt the kingdom of hell likewise be an inner state?

Cool but what do we do with all the references to hell, lake of fire, in revelations?

If there no forever hell, how do we know there is a forever heaven?

Some of these people are talking about God's patience for people, what is he waiting for them to do. Is God sitting up in heaven with his fingers crossed hoping that these people turn around and repent? How could a God who knows the end from the beginning hope for anything? He already knows what's going to happen, there's no surprises with God

This is how INSANE religion makes people!!!!

Those who deny Jesus is the Savior of all would have 1 Timothy 4:9-10 say...This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. For therefore we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, exclusively of those that believe. That's not what the faithful saying that's worthy of all acceptation is though. The word is especially of those that believe, not exclusively of those that believe because Jesus is indeed the Savior of all sinners. As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith. Galatians 6:10...Again, not exclusively but especially 1 Timothy 4:10 is clearly stating that God is the Savior of both unbelievers and believers. The context of this verse is that it is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation...you might as well embrace the true free grace theology now instead of later because it is the one true Gospel of the One True Living God. In the end we will all indeed believe 1 Timothy 4:10 because it is indeed a faithful saying that is worthy of all acceptation as stated in 1 Timothy 4:9. 1 Timothy 4:11 commands those who believe to teach this clear percept of the One True Living God found in 1 Timothy 4:10. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2:3-4 The bible can be hard to understand so I asked God for wisdom. He told me all interpretation of all scripture must bend the knee per se to My decrees and percepts. So I interpret all scripture in light of the gospel, which is good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. As well as in light of the fact that Jesus didn't stone the woman caught in adultery which the law of Moses commanded. As well as in light of Luke 9:54-56 which states...when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village...The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. John 10:10 So when Jesus talked about Gehenna, we should cross reference back to Jeremiah 32:34-35 to make the connection that is the valley of the son of Hinnom. Although, We should read the whole chapter of Jeremiah 19 and 32 in light of John 10:10. Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. Philippians 4:8

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where is the word probation used

Will God take into account his children that are brain injured?

I could never just pray for some people's salvation; I would ALWAYS include that EVERYONE, even my 'enemies', would be saved, even though I was immersed in (what I now realise was) a Calvinist-based church. I would almost apologise for asking! I now know that impulse in me was pure and based on God's true desire - that ALL shall be saved. No more cognitive dissonance!