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Low Power Airlift Pump Explained (Pneumatic Ejector Pump aka Geyser Pump with Check Valve) 

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This is a detailed explanation & presentation of how a pneumatic ejector air lift pump works and the materials I used to created it. I invented (re-invented) this airlift pump last year and am using it quite successfully for an aquaponics setup. This design works well for small scale aquaponics and scales up to larger higher wattage systems. Unlike conventional airlift pumps or geyser pumps, a pneumatic ejector is energy efficient and can pump to high elevations with low submergence ratios, utilizing the maximum power an air pump can provide.
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@Primer595
@Primer595 3 года назад
I have been working on a hydraulic pump for six years now. I used the same check valve system as yourself. It is amazing what water lift can be achieved with absolutely no pistons or seals. It is very tough to discover that your idea was patented so long ago. It seems to go with the territory! Nice video presentation.
@redpsycho90
@redpsycho90 7 лет назад
I was struggling long time to get my geyser pump working. Your design and movie really helped me, it works now! Thank you
@CleverLittleMaker
@CleverLittleMaker 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for creating this presentation. I've been researching air lift pumps and pneumatic ejector pumps in particular, and your presentation was excellent. Very helpful Thank you again.
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 6 лет назад
Your very welcome! Thank you for watching and commenting. Although my videos are kind of all over the place in terms of topics, I will be planning to make more on this particular subject such as a how to make a submersible the type pneumatic ejector pump for aquariums.
@antoniojosearruda7729
@antoniojosearruda7729 8 лет назад
Hello lock8! Ok, I think I have enough knowledge to develop this pump models of various shapes to operate submerged or on the surface, added the knowledge gained in these 14 years experimenting with his idea of the siphon and will now test models with the greatest possible flow, thank you for the answers a hug, Arruda
@captainnemonadie6541
@captainnemonadie6541 5 лет назад
Great pump... excellent presentation. Your innovation using the check valve solved my problem of insufficient head pressure in shallow sumps. I like your analogy comparing it to an inverted bell siphon but take exception to the term 'sucked in'. Thanks...great design.
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 5 лет назад
Thank you Captain Nemo for the wonderful comment! I wish I was the first to invent, maybe I'd be a millionare by now haha. I'm only about 25 years too late. But in any case, I'm glad to at least share the knowledge of this useful invention. I hope to make a tutorial video on a how to make a submersible type Pneumatic ejector pump.
@tenaciouslifeform
@tenaciouslifeform 8 лет назад
Perfect! Thanks. Eliminating my mechanical motors.
@camiliaishere1266
@camiliaishere1266 3 года назад
This helped me a lot!
@charleschristlives1484
@charleschristlives1484 2 года назад
Nice job.
@kliqcreatives1379
@kliqcreatives1379 7 лет назад
thanks so much this is the one video that explains the principle for me -
@energieeffizientetransport522
@energieeffizientetransport522 4 года назад
Principle from me ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xm3P_UkCU-g.html
@charlesashton349
@charlesashton349 4 года назад
total brilliant!
@daviddavids2884
@daviddavids2884 7 лет назад
thanks for posting. some late thoughts... this type of air lift pump might be capable of raising water to a head of five meters or more, if a correctly designed riser is used. one of the advantages of these pumps is the creation of relatively larger, wall-to-wall confined bubbles. confined bubbles lift all the water within the riser, until the air is able to escape. so, like other pumps, its the water in the riser above the siphon that is raised. the volume of air per 'flush' should be optimized in relation to air pump flow rate and the volume of water in the riser, above the siphon, to give a pump cycle rate of one or two per second. cheers
@antoniojosearruda7729
@antoniojosearruda7729 8 лет назад
Hello lock8! I've done the change to your project that found the ingenious functionality and simplicity, tomorrow, 3rd I will try to eject to 30 feet if it works I'll be very happy and I'm very grateful for answering my question.Then I inform you the test results. Grateful, Arruda
@christophercochran5883
@christophercochran5883 2 года назад
I did 35' easily with a 2" pvc chamber.
@christophercochran5883
@christophercochran5883 2 года назад
I did 35' easily with a 2" pvc chamber.
@SAN-vx7vd
@SAN-vx7vd 7 лет назад
Great yes I want continuous flow with two devices. Thanx
@unknowncuyler5449
@unknowncuyler5449 8 лет назад
I would absolutly love to see an all clear as glass built model made.. and a colored fluid demonstration. just to see it in motion.
@KostasCreatingSustainability
@KostasCreatingSustainability 2 года назад
really well understood and explained. HAVE YOU ANY NEW INNOVATIONS you've discovered since then?
@mchamster7
@mchamster7 9 лет назад
Just a thought with the leakage from your check valve there.. a small rubber O-ring around where the marble seats would help seal that and maintain the pressure in your container for a little better efficiency. Also, does the check valve need to extend out the bottom like that? I'm thinking if it's internal within the unit, you can lower the whole thing further down in the water column, meaning the air bubble's forming in higher pressure and so probably being able to push more water and/or give a higher lift. Very much like the design though.. I've been looking at airlift and un-valved geyser pumps but have been a little discouraged by the depth required. This looks like it might be the solution I've been looking for.
@samrajnisanth6460
@samrajnisanth6460 2 года назад
Thanks/samraj coimbatore India
@Red-bo4wo
@Red-bo4wo 9 лет назад
Would Like to ask? The compressed air delivered doesn't shut down for the bell to refill does it. Looks to me that it doesn't. If that's so could it be that the air being delivered can be a stand alone cylinder with pressure in it not needing a powered compressor?
@ferdinandvillena5169
@ferdinandvillena5169 6 лет назад
maybe you can lift more higher if you put a check valve in the water output pipe of the pump
@natarajsetty851
@natarajsetty851 3 года назад
Thank you so much for your video I learnt a lot from it... I have a small idea I don't know whether it works or not but still I want to explain ... Can you fix an impler above the suction and connect the air flow in two way T type so that the impler rotates and water will easily pump up..thank you.
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 3 года назад
Thanks for watching. I'm not exactly sure without looking at a picture or diagram of what you are saying. Is the goal for the impeller to harvest energy from the sucking or rather to have the impeller motorized such that it will aid in the pumping action? If you are referring to the later, I would imagine the impeller would help pump to a higher height, it may interfere with the refilling action of the chamber. A timer may need to be engaged to turn off the impeller when it is refilling so there is negative pressure in the chamber and such that the air in the chamber can escape.
@SAN-vx7vd
@SAN-vx7vd 7 лет назад
One question brother. Will it give continuous water flow with air pressure or each time it will refill.then build pressure and then through water out.Is it pissible to take continuous water flow when check valve once open and close only when there is no air?
@antoniojosearruda7729
@antoniojosearruda7729 8 лет назад
Hello lock8! Worked perfect for 30 feet, fills and empties alone may be injected air all the time without stopping it does not interfere realized that the larger the diameter of the outlet tube of the depressurized water and fill faster, ie, pumping more water as tubes thicker, I will test with mior height or will simulate height lowering of the water outlet diameter, so I can test in the same place ejetei 30 feet, but I will soon eject 200 actual feet in a deep well, something else, if you use a more powerful compressor flow increases enough, I used a portable pump to fill bike tire and ejetei about 8 liters / minute, I'll build a giant to pump some 5000 liters per hour to irrigate the crop of a friend, I will try to replace the siphon by a horizontal one-way valve to see if it even faster filling processes and emptying, I can guarantee you is that has already been using my system with the aid of electronics since February 2001 and today thanks to his idea got rid of electronics which made more functional and ecological bomb because dispença electricity, imagine a propeller attached to a compressor without using any electricity can pump water, or solar energy. I have already observed that this pump can be cosntruida of any size, bigger is better because it does not waste time with breaks to fill and EM PORTUGUES: Olá lock8 ! Funcionou perfeito para 30 pés, encheu e esvaziou sozinho, pode ficar injetando ar todo o tempo sem parar que não interfere, percebi que quanto maior o diametro do tubo de saida da agua despressuriza e enche mais rápido, ou seja, bombeia mais agua como tubos mais grossos, vou testar com mior altura ou vou simular altura diminuindo o diametro de saida da agua, assim posso testar no mesmo lugar que ejetei 30 pés, mas em breve vou ejetar 200 pés reais em um poço profundo, outra coisa, se usar um compressor mais potente a vazão aumenta bastante, eu usei uma bomba portatil de encher pneu de bike e ejetei uns 8 litros / minuto, vou construir um gigante para bombear uns 5000 litros por hora para irrigar a lavoura de um amigo, vou tentar substituir o sifão por uma valvula unidirecional horizontal para ver se fica mais rápido ainda os processos de enchimento e esvaziamento, o que posso lhe garantir é que já vinha usando meu sistema com auxilio da eletrônica desde fevereiro de 2001 e hoje graças a sua ideia me livrei da parte eletrônica que tornou a bomba mais funcional e ecologica porque dispença eletricidade, imagine uma helice acoplada a um compressor sem uso de eletricidade alguma posso bombear agua, ou com energia solar. Já constatei que essa bomba pode ser cosntruida de qualquer tamanho, quanto maior melhor porque não perde tempo com os intervalos para encher e despressurizar, sem falar que se usar compressor eletrico ligado a rede eletrica o rendimento do sistema pneumático é por volta de 3 vezes mais eficiente que o sistema de bombeamento tradicional. Mais uma vez lhe agradeço por ter tido essa ideia do sifão de ar, fantastico. QUALQUER PESSOA QUE ESTIVER PENSANDO EM FAZER ESSE PROJETO VAI FICAR IMPRESSIONADO COM O FUNCIONAMENTO, MUITO BOM. Grato, Arruda
@usmankhanb4u
@usmankhanb4u 7 лет назад
you can add a bucket/bottle as chamber in the end as resourvior to produce consistant nonstop flow of water , if u get what i mean , outlflow needs to be in proportion that until next fill of water it slowly empties water , will need a valve to adjust rite timing
@usmankhanb4u
@usmankhanb4u 7 лет назад
yes exactly , will be interesting to see , do tag me when u make it
@antoniojosearruda7729
@antoniojosearruda7729 8 лет назад
Lock8! I observed that the pump body weight has to be greater than the weight of the displaced water otherwise the same will float on the water as it exits. I already have an electronic version here working for more than 60 days, that is on the connected surface to a tank with 2000 liters and has pumped more than 40,000 liters of water this time without nehum problem, use a 40-pound compressor, ejeto 1714 liters per hour. Lock8 ! Observei que o peso do corpo da bomba tem que ser maior que o peso da agua deslocada, caso contrario a mesma irá flutuar a medida que a agua vai saindo. Eu já tenho uma versão eletrônica aqui funcionando a mais de 60 dias, essa fica na superficie conectada a um tanque com 2000 litros e já bombeou mais de 40 mil litros de agua nesse tempo sem nehum problema, uso um compressor de 40 libras, ejeto 1714 litros por hora.
@antoniojosearruda7729
@antoniojosearruda7729 8 лет назад
Hello lock8! My system that pumps 1714 L / h at 30 feet is too large, is on the surface side of a tank with the capacity of 2000 L, direct air compressor use 40 pounds, it's all working, have not given the final finish for lack of time, but if you want to view photos including of the water coming out of the pipe can send you a photo via e-mail. 40 pounds can pump almost 120 feet, there would no longer 1714 L / h, will be less Arruda
@antoniojosearruda7729
@antoniojosearruda7729 8 лет назад
Sorry, reviewing their response, I missed answer you, I confirm that I developed an electronic version that works perfectly and I will feed with photovoltaic solar energy soon, but I prefer to replace the electronics in your system that seems much simpler and can work with it I generate compressed air through the wind power, the good of your system is not dependent on electricity and therefore offers some other options for operation. Grateful, Arruda
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 3 года назад
What happens if your purge vessel is too small? Does the flow get interrupted? Is it possible to set this up so that it delivers a continuous flow of water?
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 3 года назад
If the vessel is small the cycling time would be faster which is less efficient since most of the work from the air is lost to churning water. There are other vids on youtube which refer to a "burper pump" this is basically a pneumatic ejector with a tiny vessel. To get near constant flow you would want two alternatingly operating ejectors each with very large vessels so there would always be at least one pump purging water while the other is refilling.
@antoniojosearruda7729
@antoniojosearruda7729 8 лет назад
Hello lock8! I am in Brazil, Bahia, saw his project, I enjoyed the air siphon idea, maybe improve my project with my pump can eject water at very high heights with corresponding pressure, only to have to wear an electronic circuit and sensor level inside the chamber to know the time that it is full or empty when empty, the low retention valve opens because the pressure of the water outside is larger and the chamber fills, then the chamber filled the box level sensor closes an air relief solenoid valve and connects the compressor which is currently electric network, I will do soon with solar energy, so the compressor connects, the water begins to rise with great force and volume when it becomes empty the camera sensor the low level turns off the compressor and opens the solenoid valve to depressurize the chamber, then begins another cycle. I want to remove the electronics and level sensors and see if your air siphon idea works in my pump, vc tested whether depressurizes if you have a second valve in the water riser pipe? Grateful, Arruda
@christophercochran5883
@christophercochran5883 2 года назад
Sounds expensive. How high you trying to pump?
@SAN-vx7vd
@SAN-vx7vd 7 лет назад
Out of phase mean two seperate pump with two air supplies. Can we integrate them for large fish tank with on air device, so that when one is refilling other is throwing water or both pump in one packing. Plz do work on this.
@usmankhanb4u
@usmankhanb4u 7 лет назад
you can add a bucket/bottle as chamber in the end as resourvior to produce consistant nonstop flow of water , if u get what i mean , outlflow needs to be in proportion that until next fill of water it slowly empties water , will need a valve to adjust rite timing
@MichelVaillancourt
@MichelVaillancourt 9 лет назад
Question for you: What is the LPM / PSI of your air pump, vs the LPM / Lift of the water? I've been looking for a good tool to lift water for my aquaponics, and was wondering about lift heights and flow rates for your pneumatic ejector air lift pump.
@christophercochran5883
@christophercochran5883 2 года назад
I made this pump to fit inside my 30 foot 4" well casing. The water level is at 25 feet. I easily pump water up 30 ft. Into a 50gal barrel. I use about 17psi. I only pump 36 gallons a day but using a 12v battery and a solar panel it will pump all day long without running the well dry.
@christophercochran5883
@christophercochran5883 2 года назад
I made this pump to fit inside my 30 foot 4" well casing. The water level is at 25 feet. I easily pump water up 30 ft. Into a 50gal barrel. I use about 17psi. I only pump 36 gallons a day but using a 12v battery and a solar panel it will pump all day long without running the well dry.
@michaelbridan
@michaelbridan 8 лет назад
Great video, I'm looking to design one of these to pump 12ft up, small amount of water, but still there is an obvious gravity issue... Any tweaks you can suggest ? My first two attempts have not worked, though they did not have check valves... Thanks!
@DrDangerPuppy
@DrDangerPuppy 8 лет назад
+jlocke8 Is there any reason you can't use this check valve: www.homedepot.com/p/American-Standard-Flow-Regulating-Check-Valve-M953052-0070A/205512748 Also, although I haven't made it all the way through the comments so I don't know if you've already answered the question - what size are those pipes? Otherwise, nicely done!
@DrDangerPuppy
@DrDangerPuppy 8 лет назад
***** The check valve I linked appears to be a check valve in name only, it appears to function more as a restictor. This link however seems to be a one way check/stop valve. www.homedepot.com/p/Homewerks-Worldwide-3-4-in-PVC-Sch-40-FPT-x-FPT-In-Line-Check-Valve-VCKP40B4B/202369948?MERCH=REC-_-PIPHorizontal1_rr-_-204237824-_-202369948-_-N A marble is of course cheaper.
@troysantos
@troysantos 4 года назад
I'm interested to know if a larger pump using this design could pump water 10 meters / 10 yards up a hill with a slope of about 45º. I wanna fill a 15,000 liter / 4,000 gallon tank :)
@christophercochran5883
@christophercochran5883 2 года назад
The answer is yes. Although there are ratios that must be taken into consideration based on the amount of air pressure required to pump the water. You should be able to use a 4" pvc pipe 17 inches long and use a 3/8 inch air line and a 1/2" outflow tube. Make sure your pump is vertical in the water.
@amiedetailsintamil8857
@amiedetailsintamil8857 5 лет назад
1.my wall 45 ft water only 30 -45 only its suitable ? 2.and 1hp air compressor motor?
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 5 лет назад
Nanda Kumar 45ft lift can work as long as you design chamber and pipes to withatand the pressure. 1hp compressor should be enough. to provide sufficient psi.
@osvaldorodriguez4865
@osvaldorodriguez4865 7 лет назад
El sifon del diagrama es diferente al sifón de su aparato. Trabajan igual?
@2plus2equalz5
@2plus2equalz5 6 лет назад
Yeah the design you made looks like the siphon is upside down
@brose6651
@brose6651 7 лет назад
I'm thinking of making this for a submersible water well. Do you think it would pump sand particles through or would sand likely settle in the tank?
@brose6651
@brose6651 7 лет назад
jlocke8 Thanks so much for the reply and guidance here. I have a $600 Shurflo diaphragm well pump that gets damaged by sand. I've looked at normal airlift pump designs where air is injected straight into a riser pipe and bubbles the water out. Unfortunately, my water well is 85 feet deep and the water level now is only at the 80 ft mark so the normal airlift would take tons of air to push that little water up that distance. But I think your design with the check valve could prevent the greater air quantity required to lift since your design only lifts small portions of water at a time. I'll try it out and keep you updated and thanks again.
@WolfgangMartin
@WolfgangMartin 7 лет назад
Abonniert and #playliste #systemphysik
@norge_indiankumar2264
@norge_indiankumar2264 3 года назад
Given than the chamber and pipes can handle higher pressure upto several say 5 bars, will this setup still work? Specifically in shallow water?
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 3 года назад
Hi, thanks for your question. It depends how shallow. Bare minimum the water level must completely submerge the chamber in order for there be enough water pressure to open the check valve and refill the chamber. Ideally the top of the chamber is several inches below the water surface.
@norge_indiankumar2264
@norge_indiankumar2264 3 года назад
Thank you!!
@gfmhmc41
@gfmhmc41 8 лет назад
If I wanted to build one of these to pump water over 200 feet down my well would it still work
@l.a.martin2424
@l.a.martin2424 8 лет назад
+jlocke, Hello, I kinda have the same issue as Gary McGhee, but instead I have a 205ft deep well (static water level of 65ft). The well is 120ft away from the house and downhill (10 degree do the downward slope to the well casing, aka additional 20ft of vertical lift). I'd like to build a pump that I can put down at 195ft, with a 3/4 inch discharge pipe that will deliver water into an un-pressurized holding tank in my basement. Given these figures, my understanding is this give me a THD (Total Dynamic Head) of 240 feet, or 103 PSI (or did I do something wrong?). Finding information on how to this is scant OR more likely, I'm simply too much of a simpleton to figure out which equations to use to determine compressor PSI and CFM, or even what size air supply line.... I want to do it myself, I just don't know where to find the right information... Any tips/resources/books you would recommend? Also, do you think it would be beneficial to add a check valve in the discharge pipe/spout right above the chamber?
@randolphsnyder1505
@randolphsnyder1505 Год назад
​@l.a.martin2424 A lot of trial and error going on with air water pumps. If you want to totally understand the principle,read up on Brinolli's theorem,he is kinda the father of hydraulics. My opinion is this pump is a bit over the top.foot valve not needed and just another thing that might fail.just use a piece ,around 6 ft long 3 in. Sch40 plastic,on the top side couple a 1 1/4 in poly 100psi down tube,it comes in 300 ft coils.cut the other end at a little angle up about 20 inches drill a hole and install your pressure line end,method of attachment depends on casing size,1/2 inch pressure line,material of your choice. You are going to need between 5 and 10cfm at 100 to 130 psi.I have installed several they work fine ,I installed them where submersible did not last long,because of sand or high iron content.they are less efficient than a submersible but if you need water and your well has a lot of sand etc then thus the way to go. 5:06
@howo357
@howo357 6 лет назад
Wouldn't the one way valve closes at 2:20 when the water fills the bottom of u syphon causing airlock and the air has nowhere to go except increasing the chamber pressure?
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 6 лет назад
Yes that is correct, the one way valve will close again at 2:25 after the water has submerged the u-siphon plugging it. Then the air will increase chamber pressure to displace the water.
@howo357
@howo357 6 лет назад
@@LockeLaboratory i thought the water wouldn't have continued being sucked in after 2:20 because the valve is closed. Maybe I misunderstood the animation. If the junction of the u syphon and the main water pipe is at the same level or higher than the u syphon inlet, the syphon bend shouldn't have filled with water until the syphon inlet is submerged, right?
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 6 лет назад
Oh I think I misunderstood your first question. Yes the water will get sucked in after 2:20. This is because the entire chamber is submerged in water and air naturally wants to float upwards due to bouyancy. From time 0 to 2:20, there is no path for the air to escape except through the outlet pipe going upwards, when the air reaches around the bend of the U siphon as it is being pumped in, suddenly there is a path for air to escape upwards. The air escapes upward just as if you opened a bottle of air underwater. Then naturally the "bottle of air" will fill back up with water since it is submerged in water and --In this case it will fill up with water through the one way valve. This is why after 2:20, the valve opens and water comes in. Hope this makes sense, let me know if you need further clarification. I guess one way to picture it is to imagine a sink full of water with a cup (bottom side up) submerged in the sink, you take a straw and blow bubbles into the cup and the cup fills up with air, suddenly you turn the cup right side up and all the air escapes and floats to the surface and the cup is now again filled with water. The only difference between the cup and this pump is the auto-siphon feature plus one way valve which allows it to become a "pneumatic ejector pump".
@howo357
@howo357 6 лет назад
@@LockeLaboratory I still don't get how we can get siphon when water outlet is higher. only sinario is the air pressure inside is higher than atmosphere which makes sense because of air pump. however if that's the case the water get sucked in?
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 5 лет назад
Yes when the air pressure inside is higher pressure, it will purge the water out of the water outlet, once the water is completely flushed out of the riser, the chamber is exposed to atmospheric pressure. At this point the higher pressure inside the chamber will cause the air to flush out dropping the chamber pressure enough to suck in water. It sucks in water to equalize pressure with atmospheric pressure.
@giobelkoicenter
@giobelkoicenter 8 лет назад
What aerator are you going to use on this? what is the wattage?
@giobelkoicenter
@giobelkoicenter 8 лет назад
+jlocke8 do you have video with your new upgraded? my plan is using it to my well and I need to lift the water for 10 feet.
@giobelkoicenter
@giobelkoicenter 8 лет назад
***** thank you for sharing. I reall need this
@damienfynn1522
@damienfynn1522 7 лет назад
Greetings, what is the maximum height of these pumps?. I have a tank that's about 15' above the ground,will it pump to that height?. Great video.
@damienfynn1522
@damienfynn1522 7 лет назад
Thank you for your reply, I have just reread my message and I noticed a mistake. The height should be 15m and not 15' .
@troysantos
@troysantos 4 года назад
​@@damienfynn1522 Have you tried it? I want to pump water 10 meters up.
@damienfynn1522
@damienfynn1522 4 года назад
@@troysantos no I haven't tried, nobody has answered my question.
@troysantos
@troysantos 4 года назад
​@@damienfynn1522 I see. Thanks. My friend might understand how this pump works and decide to try to make one. If we do, I'll let you know what happens. The mechanics of all this is completely lost one me.
@damienfynn1522
@damienfynn1522 4 года назад
@@troysantos thank you so much.
@beetelgeuze
@beetelgeuze 5 лет назад
hi! do you, or someone here, know if it is possible to build a pneumatic ejector airlift but instead of powered by an airpump, by a venturi powerd by a sump pump?
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 5 лет назад
hi beetelgauze, a venturi with sump pump provides negative pressure which is the opposite of what an air pump provides. A venturi would have lift the water via a suction and you would be limited by sump pump power and ultimately atmospheric pressure. Are you aiming to unify the number of motors in your setup?
@beetelgeuze
@beetelgeuze 5 лет назад
@@LockeLaboratory my goal is to fill the chamber with the bubbles that are produced by a venturi yes. Therefore the chamber would be filled a lot faster due to the pumps power combined with the venturi bubbles, could it work or am I reinventing the wheel?? Thanks
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 5 лет назад
I think you could possibly have a geyser pump configuration, it wouldn't be a pneumatic ejector. For example, if you cut off the bottom of the chamber so it has no bottom and no one way valve, then pump in the bubbles from the venturi into the chamber, the chamber will fill up with air eventually. The air would then come out in a burst and whatever water is in the spout will shoot upward. The amount of water pumped up would be significantly lower than a pneumatic ejector however since all the water from the chamber will not be pumped upward, only the water that is in the upward spout. The chamber water in the geyser pump configuration would simply be pushed in and out of the chamber due to the bubbles displacing it. Hope this makes sense. Its like taking an upside down cup of water that is submerged in a tank, then blowing bubbles into the cup from the underneath.
@beetelgeuze
@beetelgeuze 5 лет назад
@@LockeLaboratory what would happen if i try to fill up this ejector style pump from a venturi with an outlet of 6000l/minute? i guess the ejectors' housing should be large enough-like a 20l bucket with a lid. This would cause the housing of the system to fill up a lot faster but could it make the same result with so much water pumped in? My guess is that the pressure inside the chamber goes up a lot quicker and the pneumatic ejection would be sort of like a geyser, but with longer bursts. also, i wonder if the venturi would just stop working from the built up pressure! i'd like to try it on my future aquaponic system. right now im running a 60liter aquarium with a plantfilter on a geyser pump so it spits out just enough for a couple plants. your video inspired me to create something awesome as this - thanks for your informative answer!
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 5 лет назад
beetelgeuze i understand. you are saying to pump the water into the oneway valve port. yes that is a great idea! and i think it would work along with the air pump in conjunction. there is another youtuber named Glenn who made a similar device dubbed the "AQUAZEN" pump which in one video he connected to a water pump to boost its output. i think you should experiment and develop this design. glad to be a source of help and inspiration. let me know how it goes
@haroldwestrich3312
@haroldwestrich3312 6 месяцев назад
GREAT video: PLEASE HELP ! ! wouldn't it operate the same if you just had a U shaped trap at the bottom of the main water exit? That would eliminate the need for a "T" ? ? Someone please help me understand why a simple U trap wouldn't do the same thing.... Thank you all in advance for the hundreds of replies I'm sure I will get to this question.😀
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 6 месяцев назад
Great question. So a simple U shape will not work for the following reason: the water that is in the chamber would not be displaced past the opening tip of the "u". Imagine a full chamber. Water level drops as air displaces chamber but the water level drops past the entry of the "U", the only water that is displaces is the small amount within the U bend.
@antoniojosearruda7729
@antoniojosearruda7729 8 лет назад
Olá ! Com minha bomba, ejeto atualmente a 30 pés, 1714 L/h, em outro já ejetei 90 pés, no proximo vou ejetar a 200 pés, o corpo da bomba que tem que ser muito resistente, aço inox é uma boa opção. se for de materia fragil, explode. Hello ! With my pump, injector currently to 30 feet, 1714 L / h, in other already ejetei 90 feet, the next will eject 200 feet, the pump housing that has to be very resistant, stainless steel is a good choice. if the fragile material explodes.
@yajahiragodoy5329
@yajahiragodoy5329 8 лет назад
An idea
@markk2862
@markk2862 8 лет назад
I think if a check valve was added to the out flow that would allow you to pump higher. Similar to a pitbill pump only with out the need for a plc to control it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PFfzBbbw3sI.html
@christophercochran5883
@christophercochran5883 2 года назад
I tried it with a check valve on the top. It doesn't work.
@MRGF78
@MRGF78 5 лет назад
Where's the demonstration???
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 5 лет назад
Hi Thanks for your interest. You can see some videos here. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QySiZxiZFrw.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bg4r1PSFA0U.html
@tammytran9986
@tammytran9986 7 лет назад
how could you invent it if it was patented in 1973?
@frederickjohnh
@frederickjohnh 9 лет назад
***** Is the pump to the far left in this video that Glenn Martinez describes at 34 minutes 40 seconds, also a pneumatic ejector pump as it uses a one-way valve? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1EDlMqrngqQ.html
@frederickjohnh
@frederickjohnh 9 лет назад
***** Thanks for the good explaination. I have another question regarding the siphon and where it is attached to the pipe. It your drawing it is part way up the pipe and the siphon is outside the main pipe. It other words the air will go down and then part of the way up before entering the main pipe. I am wondering is it would function the same to place a tee lower down in the main pipe and then add a short piece of pipe, a 90 degree elbow and another piece of pipe pointed upwards to form the siphon. In this manner the main pipe would also serve as the upward portion of the siphon. It is doing this in your design as well but only starting a bit higher. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. Thanks again for your time, help and for sharing! Frederick
@frederickjohnh
@frederickjohnh 9 лет назад
Frederick Henderson Here is an album of pictures of Pneumatic Ejector Pump diagrams. I took a screenshot of your diagram in the video and then modified it to show you want I am thinking. In another one I show your bell siphon. s1143.photobucket.com/user/frederickjh/library/Aquaponics/Pneumatic%20Ejector%20Pump Let me know what you think of my idea to use the spout pipe as part of the siphon.
@frederickjohnh
@frederickjohnh 9 лет назад
***** Thanks! Your explanation helps a lot. It also explains what I have been doing wrong. It looks like to keep this a compact as possible that a bell siphon is the best way to go. One other question do you have a way to determine the best volume for the chamber for pumping efficiency? It sounds like you have done a lot of research on this. Just hoping to learn from you.
@frederickjohnh
@frederickjohnh 9 лет назад
***** Did you do an experiments regarding the size of the siphon pipe in relation to the spout? I was just wondering as in the one you built the siphon tube is smaller.
@frederickjohnh
@frederickjohnh 9 лет назад
***** So regarding the size of chamber have you tried going smaller. The reason I ask is that thing we learned in science class about things in motion tend to stay in motion. I was wondering if with a bigger air pump the efficiency might be better if the water and air in the spout are kept moving in an upward direction by the burst being closer together.
@WolfgangMartin
@WolfgangMartin 7 лет назад
Danke für die Inspiration I try it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xm3P_UkCU-g.html
@rafiamanyar4390
@rafiamanyar4390 6 лет назад
One word says all "LIAR"
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 6 лет назад
Is that an acronym?
@2plus2equalz5
@2plus2equalz5 6 лет назад
There's a 2010 patent for the exact design you claim is yours with the one way valve and everything so you didn't invent it patents.google.com/patent/CN102562680A/en
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 6 лет назад
I know I wasn't the first to invent, I mentioned this in the video. I just so happened to think of the idea myself in a void, make a prototype, then do a patent search to find that it already exists. This is why I am knowledgeable about this device and is why I made the video. Besides it was patented in 1973 before I was born not 2010. You went through a lot of trouble to do a patent search on my behalf --thanks for watching and commenting. This is the exact device patent, it predates any "geyser pump" patent See patent US3898018A patents.google.com/patent/US3898018A/
@2plus2equalz5
@2plus2equalz5 6 лет назад
Fair enough, could have been a goldmine if you came up with the closed bottom and one-way valve design first though. I'm using this for a uni project so without your video I would have never came across this design so I owe a lot to you :D
@LockeLaboratory
@LockeLaboratory 6 лет назад
Thanks Kris, glad to have helped. It is a bitter sweet feeling to find one's idea in the patent database. Some sadness that I wasn't the first but also feelings of validation that I'm not crazy and that people would spend several grand to pursue the same idea. It seems open source is the way to go these days for some ideas however as innovation speed is way faster. Cheers!
@jackkelsay8205
@jackkelsay8205 7 лет назад
I hate to break it to you, but you didn't invent it.
@jackkelsay8205
@jackkelsay8205 7 лет назад
jlocke8 more informative than the other videos I've seen though. the infographics help. I'll give an A- since you didn't invent it lol
@antoniojosearruda7729
@antoniojosearruda7729 8 лет назад
Lock8! I observed that the pump body weight has to be greater than the weight of the displaced water otherwise the same will float on the water as it exits. I already have an electronic version here working for more than 60 days, that is on the connected surface to a tank with 2000 liters and has pumped more than 40,000 liters of water this time without nehum problem, use a 40-pound compressor, ejeto 1714 liters per hour. Lock8 ! Observei que o peso do corpo da bomba tem que ser maior que o peso da agua deslocada, caso contrario a mesma irá flutuar a medida que a agua vai saindo. Eu já tenho uma versão eletrônica aqui funcionando a mais de 60 dias, essa fica na superficie conectada a um tanque com 2000 litros e já bombeou mais de 40 mil litros de agua nesse tempo sem nehum problema, uso um compressor de 40 libras, ejeto 1714 litros por hora.
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