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Lowko Knows What BRONZE Looks Like And Harstem Is Confused. | Rank Roulette Season 2 NA's Revenge 

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The reigning Rank Roulette champion is here to defend his title! Can Lowko win 2 seasons back to back? The competition seems fierce on denying him this record breaking accomplishment! Smash like and help our Dutch Heroes to finally beat the Americans!
Take a shot at Rank Roulette vs the World! Try to beat Harstem as a member of the community and compete against the other viewers: forms.gle/4vimjiWkvuKgRNzS9
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0:00 Intro
0:43 Round 1
6:38 Round 2
12:18 Round 3
17:37 Round 4
21:55 Results
22:45 vs the world Round 8 Results
26:14 vs the world Round 2nd Half Round 1
28:30 Standings
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@sosasoseante8757
@sosasoseante8757 3 года назад
4:08 gotta give props to Hamster for making an entire newspaper article only to show it for 2 seconds
@Willdroyd
@Willdroyd 3 года назад
Hamster goes above and beyond!
@arminb3939
@arminb3939 2 года назад
Now I wanna read that page 3 :D
@galacticviper4453
@galacticviper4453 2 года назад
I actually stopped and read the whole thing, and I laughed so hard
@patrickgartnercoelho5628
@patrickgartnercoelho5628 2 года назад
Brilliant!
@Elnadrius
@Elnadrius 3 года назад
Yeah, you totally should do a podcast! About starcraft, live and Dutch things that will be awesome. I'll definitely listen to it!
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 3 года назад
I've thought they'd make a good duo. They could be the Dutch Tastosis.
@TritonTv69420
@TritonTv69420 3 года назад
As well as why 420 always come up in their videos 😉
@spagettech
@spagettech 3 года назад
@@danielskrivan6921 yeah. I'd definitely watch that
@arthurfraco2970
@arthurfraco2970 3 года назад
If it’s with lowko I would watch. Or reynor
@nepenthesspectabilis1907
@nepenthesspectabilis1907 3 года назад
Agree. They are laughing half the time (thumbs up) and I would like to hear their opinions on builds, play styles, decisioning making, the works. Plus I'm still salty that Lowko didn't get a team in the Caster Draft tournament. He's way more popular then these fools CatZ, DeMusliM, feardragon, Maynarde, Nathanias, PiG, Rifkin, Rotti(under 3k subs...noob status), ZombieGrub(boys will be boys, stay in your lane) Blizzard really needs to start bringing in top talent if they want their game to continue into a third decade
@davedavy5406
@davedavy5406 3 года назад
My theory behind selecting ranks: Bronze: No build order, no timings, trying to figure things out. Silver: Has a build order for the first 3 minutes they can't follow, but is trying. Has no Micro. Gold: Has a build order they can follow, but poor mid-game, bad army comps and untidy Micro. Platinum: Have 1 thing they are good at, one of build order, micro, Army comps or Macro. Everything else it not good (this is my rank). Diamond: Good at most things, but not exceptional at anything OR Exceptional at one thing but not good at anything else. Masters: Is Good at all the things, exceptional at one thing. GM: Is Good at all things, and exceptional at multiple things. Using this formula....I'm very rarely right
@jovanpetrovich9359
@jovanpetrovich9359 3 года назад
That last line had me laughing
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
Actually this formula looks pretty promising. But it might just still be pretty difficult to judlge on just 2 minutes :p
@MsHojat
@MsHojat 3 года назад
Dude I've been master league ever since it existed and I usually don't really have a specific build order or timings and I just figure things out. Resource float, multitasking, APM, micro are all far more important. You can't even tell timings from a fractured game because you don't know what delays may have occurred. So that's probably your problem. Granted, this is difficult, as even Harstem and Lowko get significantly off regularly.
@DaxRaider
@DaxRaider 2 года назад
my high is masters 1 and i never learned a fucking buildorder in my life xD i just build "some of these, some of these, oh these look nice, well lets push here and there lets try this" i have NO FUCKING CLUE what i am doing xD people totaly overthink what a master / dia whatever has to do xD if u can spend ur money and have relativly decent micro and know what fight to take and what fight not to take, while also trying to harras, it really doesnt matter much what you build you will end in masters xD
@galacticviper4453
@galacticviper4453 2 года назад
lol
@PotatoMussab
@PotatoMussab 3 года назад
"I think we're pretty close" Yes you're both in the Netherlands
@grahamelliott9506
@grahamelliott9506 3 года назад
if lowko wins another medal like this, you should put that dutch phrase about 'a donkey shouldn't hit its foot on the same rock twice' on the back XD
@keithwallace5277
@keithwallace5277 3 года назад
a Podcast between Harstem, Lowko + another guy I would totally watch that We need the "Trash Taste" of the SC2 community
@TheGahta
@TheGahta 3 года назад
Rotterdam hands down
@avsbes98
@avsbes98 3 года назад
Rotti 100%
@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786
@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 3 года назад
UpaTree has already proven to make great podcast material with Harstem in Pre-show Companions. UpaTree FTW!
@mareksicinski3726
@mareksicinski3726 3 года назад
Trash taste is a trash podcast though
@ManAtPogo
@ManAtPogo 3 года назад
I'd add Lambo
@zenith5180
@zenith5180 3 года назад
In game 1, the blue Zerg made spines in the natural in order to lure out drones vs the banelings. The banelings were hidden until the drones got to the natural, which is why red just split the drones and let them stand still.
@KeppyKep
@KeppyKep 3 года назад
I feel like this is the closest episode ever in terms of Harsem and his guest thinking the same thing. And finished with only a 1-point difference
@ManAtPogo
@ManAtPogo 3 года назад
Ok, I gotta say that this episode had a very pleasant Vibe. So basically I'm all in for any Lowko/Harstem colab.
@VoidUpgradable
@VoidUpgradable 3 года назад
Harstem and Lowko have wonderful banter
@franjsaenz
@franjsaenz 3 года назад
Such a bromance energy, totally love it! 😂
@NeedASpot
@NeedASpot 3 года назад
This was the best content I’ve seen on RU-vid in this community. Lowko and Harstem is the best duo hands down. Lowstem? Harko? Better than every other combo
@KoolMeester2
@KoolMeester2 2 года назад
Tastetosis vs lowstem?
@Shegin
@Shegin 3 года назад
In 2nd round i quite see my TvT. Things that sell it out: really late bunker on high ground (if it was reactor reapers guy could be dead), really vulnerable starport at low ground which you want to defend (i prefer wall, but at least tank in this case could save him whole trouble of this attack which did nothing) and in the same moment other guy could freely do double drop in mineral lines on natural/main instead of A clicking starport. And my biggest nemesis is F2 whole army which was seen a lot. That can guarantee a lot of mess since no turrets (you cant really afford it) when any drop comes in. Edit: P.S. On second thought biggest nemesis is A click tosses and random TvP in particular but that's another story.
@awooawoo9628
@awooawoo9628 3 года назад
Same thing for me, my TvP and TvZ have a decent win rate of 65%+ but my TvT is absolutely terrible since judging a good fight is the hardest thing in that matchup due to how finicky siege tanks can turn the tables in a fight. Even worse when you are playing bio vs mech which feels like you get a instant death sentence when their siege tanks just siege up in your natural and you lose all your bio in a instant. Literally the only way I win TvT's is just survive until you get 10 ravens and you can just disable all of your enemies tanks and insta win. -hardstuck D3 Terran with 260 APM
@Shegin
@Shegin 3 года назад
@@awooawoo9628 tanks before 2x attack upgrade dont even 1 shot marine. If you getting catch off guard with bio vs mech its luck of sensor towers or scout. Normally mech can do this trick only when mech's base already gone by your bio in exchange (which is positive trade most cases). I have quite opposite feeling as TvT most skillbased and "fair" matchup for me, when TvP just terrible random or you have to turtle with constant fear of dying even if you scout... and it's d1 with 120-160 apm.
@Raiseren
@Raiseren 3 года назад
some parts of the build opening did look a really weird, but honestly you could see that easily in masters as well. F2 abuse can easily be seen at 5K mmr as well. Generally the speed at which he moved around the map while maintaining the macro made me think this was a 4.5k+ MMR game as well. Definitely didn't look like diamond from what we saw.
@Mouradif
@Mouradif 3 года назад
No sarcasm, Blizzard matchmaking is really broken, I recently did my 5 placement matches after not playing since HotS and I'm apparently Master 3 with 2600 MMR (Europe)
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
Nah m8. You'Re just that good! #natural #talent #noFilter
@vmgNarra
@vmgNarra 3 года назад
As a Terran expert I hereby inform both Lowko and Harstem that your TvT guess was just straight up wrong. First of all the builds: red went for a standard gas 1st 2gas build, whereas blue went Maru style rax gas gas. So far so good, however he kept the 2 reapers at home way too long and arrived on the other side of the map too late and thus got cleaned up by 5 units. He should hit when there are 3 units. Then the bunker was completely useless as 1 cyclone can literally solo kill 2 hellions and 3 reapers. Blue didn't know this and delayed his expansion by a huge amount because of this. Then he went for vikings instead of a raven which makes no sense unless you 1 base all in. This early game alone gave me the upper boundary of master 3. Then the unit control wasn't the greatest, like marines walking into tank range. Also no spotting marines and poor reaction to the counter attack. Therefore I went for D1. Close enough I guess.
@NicholasKramas
@NicholasKramas 2 года назад
You guys should definitely do a podcast you are the two best SC2 streamers and for completely different reasons. Harstem's got the snipe insults expert level execution on those, he also has Grand Master level know how on some of the very esoteric nuanced levels of gameplay at a high level, loco is one of the best at understanding the whole map and everything that's going on knowing what should be going on at what point staying engaged in the analytics and the discussion as the game evolves it would be an interesting development to see how that's applied to a podcast. You have your one guy who's able to hold the floor and evolve the discussion and then the other guy who's able to be the color commentary and you guys work well together you're my two favorites anyway good work
@skipperg4436
@skipperg4436 3 года назад
LOL fast reactor on Starport is a Diamond meta. People usually don't build ravens here xD 2 Gateway-Cyber-Nexus also seems to be the meta at low diamond - high plat level,
@Harstem
@Harstem 3 года назад
If YOU want to participate in Harstem vs the World, NOW is your chance! Halfway through season 2 we are resetting ALL points and start fresh into the 2nd half! To participate, just fill out the forms in each weeks description ( forms.gle/4vimjiWkvuKgRNzS9 ) BEFORE the next episode airs. In case you miss a week or two, that is no problem, since you will just get the average score of that week. Try hard and your best to win some of the amazing prices! Best of luck sailor! Also learn more about our sponsor VIP-Grinders.com and how eSports players turned poker pros winning $$$ Millions in prize money www.vip-grinders.com/go/esports-players-turn-poker-pros/
@onatkalkan4907
@onatkalkan4907 3 года назад
Captain “prices” means the price you pay to buy something. “Prizes” is the reward you get from a challenge or tournament. ;)
@brandonsaarela7597
@brandonsaarela7597 3 года назад
Please do a podcast together
@christopherress6635
@christopherress6635 3 года назад
Maybe you can make this Nerimah guy your rank roulette Stig. Compare you and guest scores to his each week to determine how well you should have done. Guest gets a special prize if they beat him.
@DarknessDShadow
@DarknessDShadow 3 года назад
I waited for the Lowko episode so much
@robinstrahlendorf463
@robinstrahlendorf463 3 года назад
The Intro of Hamster was golden
@TotoTitus
@TotoTitus 3 года назад
wen dutch stream
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 3 года назад
I actually beat both players today! First time for everything. Slightly beat Lowko with my personal best score of 10. Huge comeback from last week where I think I got 21. Maybe next week I can get single digits. . . . R1: D1 - 2 points. Like Harstem, I was debating between D1 and M3. R2: D3 - 2 points. I was way underestimating this one and was going to guess Platinum. They talked me into moving up a league with all of their compliments. R3: S2 - 4 points. R4: P1 - 2 points.
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
Is that 10 points? That's the number 2 spot my man! At this point, you can even try to beat MCanning!
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 3 года назад
@@hamster_designs I've also had a lot more attempts than he got.
@dogtato
@dogtato 3 года назад
it's good you are keeping the lowko connection active so other people will talk to you
@GuruEvi
@GuruEvi 3 года назад
The second round, I knew they were overestimating the rank. Really good micro, they were quite accurate in that it was master and GM level plays, but they’re Terran, so you still lose to Gold Zerg and Silver Protoss a-moving their armies.
@f00dify
@f00dify 3 года назад
Having rewatched the video again. I can see how the guess in the second round could be lower than Masters because there was a lot of Janky camera movement through the clip it's just that the game play seemed better than the last one.
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
Also keep and eye on the workers in the lowground base. They are just idling on cam for quite a while ^^
@lambdasixtwo8808
@lambdasixtwo8808 3 года назад
@10:45 That harstem face is priceless, can i get a T-shirt of that face instead?
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 3 года назад
I like his reactions. My favorite is in his loss-win to Maru.
@andregustavo7159
@andregustavo7159 3 года назад
I thought the thumbnail was just two harstems
@buka9330
@buka9330 3 года назад
11:22 tbh that might be the case. My highest rank ever was Diamond 3 (I stopped playing sc2 after that for over a year). But recently after coming back and playing a few games like an absolute bot and still somehow winning I got Master 3 with 3800 MMR. That's like low D3 mmr.
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 3 года назад
Not guessing every week means a lower score, doesn't it? It seems the best way to win would be to make only 1 guess.
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
You will get the average score of the week if you skip a week.
@estellebright2579
@estellebright2579 3 года назад
My prediction vs the result. Round 1: Gold 1. Result: Master 3. Round 2: Dia 1. Result: Dia 2. Round 3: Gold 1. Result: Gold 2. Round 4: Plat 1. Result: Plat 2. The first round of early ling bane rush is really tough. The red player makes me feel the micro is a bit weird and not high level enough. Rest is close but consistently higher one tier. But I think my instinct is correct here.
@unicorn907
@unicorn907 3 года назад
Previous episode #3: Gold 2 & Silver 1, actually Bronze 1 (but actually actually Gold 1) - "Whoa, that was bronze? Well. Sure, I guess." This episode #2: Master 1 & Master 1, actually Diamond 2 - "IMPOSSIBLE! Blizzard or Hamster obviously must be wrong."
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
Yeah, pure AUDACITY by the reigning champ... Success really changed him :(
@michawozniak3488
@michawozniak3488 3 года назад
I am the guy from the second replay. Yeah for some reason I can't seem to get out of Diamond 2 😂
@TritonTv69420
@TritonTv69420 3 года назад
Two of my favorite youtubers!! Love you both.
@maus6199
@maus6199 3 года назад
the crossover we all have been waiting for
@2JoeStudios
@2JoeStudios 3 года назад
Yes!!! Please do a starcraft Podcast! I would listen the shit out of that.
@refablobb
@refablobb 3 года назад
you two absolutely should do a sc2 podcast!
@sethwhite4635
@sethwhite4635 3 года назад
I'd listen to a lowko harstem podcast. Sounds awesome
@TheNighmare1
@TheNighmare1 3 года назад
Gotta love harstems disappointment face when he realized lowko won by 1 point hahaha
@bradleywatts7928
@bradleywatts7928 3 года назад
nice.
@lacryman5541
@lacryman5541 3 года назад
Can we see the entire replay of the round 2 TvT in order to figure out why it is so misleading?
@samuelhowarth5597
@samuelhowarth5597 3 года назад
Yeah I have to know how Hamster tricked everyone.
@gigatrihard8607
@gigatrihard8607 3 года назад
@will b I am diamond 3, if that is diamond 2 then I have a very loooong way before I'll be able to climb xD
@samuellarkin7998
@samuellarkin7998 3 года назад
19:02 Guy shoots his own cannon
@m.helazior9932
@m.helazior9932 3 года назад
I had a bug with the reclassification of my Terran race on the EU server, I went from platinum 1 to bronze 1, and the worst is that I continue to play opponents as strong as before. On the other hand in Protoss and Zerg I am always diamond. Does anyone know why? I saw a clip of a Korean bronze 1 pro, is it the same thing that happened to him?
@Naomi-ig1vz
@Naomi-ig1vz 3 года назад
Instead of direct at camera turn it at an angle an you could see the engraving
@benjaminchen8857
@benjaminchen8857 3 года назад
lol. For the guess, I think I’m the Zerg opponent, and I’m Diamond 2
@DininDalael
@DininDalael 3 года назад
Harstem. I think you need to play a few gold, platinum and diamond players to remind yourself what our level is. The other good thing about it is you'll basically get a 5min no rush kind of game.
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 3 года назад
I'll volunteer for a GvP (gold vs. pro).
@HHalcyon
@HHalcyon 3 года назад
Yeah, it's basically the opponent trying to figure out for five minutes whether he has enough units to attack and decides that he hasn't so adds another five minutes to preparation time and expands occasionally. Like me.
@Krarilotus
@Krarilotus 3 года назад
wait so for the scores its only adding +1 point if you are wrong 1 league. Interesting!
@Naomi-ig1vz
@Naomi-ig1vz 3 года назад
How do you send a replay btw?
@guest273
@guest273 3 года назад
That game 1 was such a doozy.
@dustinmorrison6315
@dustinmorrison6315 3 года назад
Yes do a podcast.
@noneofyourbusiness4133
@noneofyourbusiness4133 3 года назад
Lowko’s voice has some INSANE bass boosting🤘🎸
@canadianbakn
@canadianbakn 3 года назад
For Harstem vs the World what score did you give the people in the top 4 for the weeks that they did not participate? If it's ignored, basically 0, then wouldn't that give an advantage to someone who doesn't guess every week? Great series as always a blast to watch :)
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
If you (have to) skip a week, you will get the average community guess for that week :) So it will be ok to good in most weeks, but you obviously cannot win by just being average :p
@canadianbakn
@canadianbakn 3 года назад
Perfect, sounds like you guys thought of this already :D. Thanks for getting back.
@ryfors
@ryfors 3 года назад
What's the punishment for not guessing for a week? Is it 1 or 2 points? Just thuinking that it might be a good idea to make sure that it's not a strategy to avoid guessing if it's a confusing game.
@dominikmagnus
@dominikmagnus 3 года назад
well, apparently there is NO punishment, i guess, so you get 0... so you get one guess in and do nothing and you win. When I heard him say that and that NONE of these participants guessed every game, I was stunned. "This is unacceptable!" - Lemon Grab
@LuckyFoxes789
@LuckyFoxes789 2 года назад
Honestly that would be an awsome podcast.
@snarkysnarksson3002
@snarkysnarksson3002 3 года назад
10:59 Did they miss the first game was NA? :)
@koko9544
@koko9544 3 года назад
terran dia2+ in eu they quite strong
@TheTykk
@TheTykk 3 года назад
last game D2
@TheDarkASE
@TheDarkASE 3 года назад
A LOWKO AND HAMSTER HOURLONG PODCAST AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@yorkshire_tea_innit8097
@yorkshire_tea_innit8097 Год назад
18:25 wp speed in the upgrade tab lol
@Naomi-ig1vz
@Naomi-ig1vz 3 года назад
What format?
@mareksicinski3726
@mareksicinski3726 3 года назад
15:00 it’s very known
@Kuplung57
@Kuplung57 3 года назад
Allright. Can you two be the next Tastosis?
@matrasky3413
@matrasky3413 2 года назад
I want to know what's behind the blanket covering the picture on the wall 😶
@remyy7832
@remyy7832 3 года назад
please podcast!
@thearchives2691
@thearchives2691 3 года назад
OOOH HAMSTER WE'VE GOT MORE THAN 8. Hell yeah.
@sleepy4118
@sleepy4118 2 года назад
Lowko and Harstem.. oh man it's a great synergy!
@vld.mihalache
@vld.mihalache 3 года назад
Best duo on the internet
@henryviiifake8244
@henryviiifake8244 3 года назад
24:13 Harstem: "Oh, the sweet taste if victory, my boys 😌" Also Harstem: 👁👄👁
@Qlmmb2086
@Qlmmb2086 3 года назад
Playing along! Round 1: Locked Masters 3, 0 points, woo! Round 2: Thought halfway through, "This **looks** like masters, but diamond can look like masters when the game is super standard and there's nothing to provoke mistakes." Locked Masters 1 anyhow, should have gone with my gut; 4 points. Oof. Round 3: Locked Plat 2. The screen scrolling is deceptive; even if a player does a quick edgescroll flick, replays will show it as a slow pan to try to make it more viewable. Still overestimated though... 3 points. Round 4: Weeeiiirrrd mix of high level and low level skills; strikes me as players who have watched pro players and studied how the game is supposed to be played, but not practiced enough to actually execute, which in starcraft tends to be all you need to get to plat. Locked plat 3: 1 point Final score 8... not bad if I do say so myself... not that anyone is going to believe me, I suppose.
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
That's #2 AND beating the reigning champion! Very impressive! You should definitely test your luck in vs the world - even though there seems to be far scarier competition :p
@Qlmmb2086
@Qlmmb2086 3 года назад
@@hamster_designs Usually I play along in my head and get in the 10-12 range... but now that I know there are t-shirts involved the gloves are off :P
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
@@Qlmmb2086 Go get'em chief!
@K3rriganZerg
@K3rriganZerg 3 года назад
M3 first game, nailed it :'v
@MacJonesBelly
@MacJonesBelly 3 года назад
Is this the fabled Lowko Connection?
@nar2130
@nar2130 3 года назад
High Not Sure! I'm Fritos.
@skyler.mclane
@skyler.mclane 3 года назад
You spelt denying wrong the description (not deniing) xD
@ebbethinggaard
@ebbethinggaard 3 года назад
I WANT that T-shirt!
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
Good luck guessing then!!
@Blindsaplol
@Blindsaplol 3 года назад
There is always the possibility that some good players that are at a lower mmr that they should be are there because they just droped by doing 30 loses in a row to farm the ladder .
@DininDalael
@DininDalael 3 года назад
Happens to me everytime i make it to diamond, then its non stop losses
@st4ndby
@st4ndby 3 года назад
@@DininDalael it’s more about your mindset. I bet you feel really uncomfortable and you feel more „threaten“ from your opponents
@lizardthatsavesyou15ormore34
@lizardthatsavesyou15ormore34 3 года назад
Absolutely guessed that gold 2
@rafiri8941
@rafiri8941 3 года назад
If I win I refuse to wear a t-shirt on which there is written "NA's revenge" ! Outrageous !
@StrigWilson
@StrigWilson 3 года назад
I think he overestimated the NA sc scene, and NA harstem fanbase
@mareksicinski3726
@mareksicinski3726 3 года назад
10:00 how is it?
@johanasala1645
@johanasala1645 3 года назад
gotta give it to you that's a nice shirt
@MetalMan1245
@MetalMan1245 3 года назад
I'm so sad, I was doing so well, I was in third place, and then I guessed Diamond 2 on the last episode and blew it, oh well, I still did really good up to that point, maybe next time.
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
You get a fresh start right now! Take the first half as a tutorial and go ham now :D
@januszkiesiewstopa8938
@januszkiesiewstopa8938 2 года назад
10:41 its absolutely was like i was playing tvt and i am a diamond 2 Terran xD kiesiew 😂
@brandonsaarela7597
@brandonsaarela7597 3 года назад
Please do a podcast together
@MarkPetravich
@MarkPetravich 3 года назад
For next season, the best community guesser should be invited! Also, how do you handle if someone doesn't guess in a week? Do they get a few points?
@DerpRO070800
@DerpRO070800 3 года назад
Great Suggestion. That would be a much cooler price
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
If you do not guess a week you will get the community average, which is surprisingly good a lot of the times!
@lite4998
@lite4998 3 года назад
Wait. Are you telling me they aren’t the same person??
@Buchi_7
@Buchi_7 3 года назад
aaah, Rank Roulette, my favourite content :)
@SquintyGears
@SquintyGears 3 года назад
What score gets entered if you didn't vote that week? The community average guess?
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
Exactly!
@dominikmagnus
@dominikmagnus 3 года назад
@@hamster_designs but what's the point? what? how? what?
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
@@dominikmagnus the point is to make it more accessible to people, who might be busy with life and might happen to miss a week. It should feel more like a fun game rather than some kind of weekly obligating commitment ^^
@dominikmagnus
@dominikmagnus 3 года назад
​@@hamster_designs still looks like more of a non-answer to a riddle "How to make those who can't participate all the time still satisfied". Imagine you and two of your friends roll up into a bar. Your friend B proposes a game of darts. Each gets 3 throws. First throw you get 15, friend A gets 10, friend B - 20. Second throw you get 20, friend A - 18, friend B doesn't throw. You and friend A are somewhat puzzled, but ok. Third throw you get 16, friend A gets 16 and friend B doesn't throw again. You sum up points and your friend B says he won, because he was apparently getting average of our shots somehow. (so it's You:51, A:44, B:54) Me and my friend A could just laugh it off, but if that's 100+ randoms on the internet - i don't think so. I was always weirded out by bad PR decision of big companies, thinking that it's some corpo garbage at play. Now I see it on individual level and frankly I'm not impressed
@MrSkarlowy
@MrSkarlowy 3 года назад
@@dominikmagnus You're making a lot of sense and I agree with you. But there's no need to be rude to them about it. This is the first time they're implementing it and there's bound to be oversights. Chill out and give them a chance!
@alexs.2069
@alexs.2069 2 года назад
A big problem here are the weird mmr in Europe With the same MMR you can be in different leagues, something there is completely wrong
@jorgemichaelquino7562
@jorgemichaelquino7562 3 года назад
DAMN I WANT THE SHIRT😭😭😭
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
Try your hardest and believe!
@dominikmagnus
@dominikmagnus 3 года назад
Okay, so giving average points for no guess is all kinds of bad. 1. We're measuring individual skill. Obviously, when you measure ones skill (or luck if you think there's no skill to it) you measure the actual data with the participant involved and do not involve the average stats. When you measure how far someone can jump, you don't pull up the average jump for every jump they didn't take. That's bonkers. You still need to assign some value to that jump not taken, but it mustn't be an average jump. You could add a multiplier to their score, you could add a lowest score, or their average score multiplied by some amount. You can think of how to do it, but taking an average score of everyone else participating is not the way, especially with a system like this. 2. This discourages guessing. I mean it. Imagine a situation: you encounter a hard guess and you're pretty sure, that you can't guess this one correctly - then by not taking a guess you would be close to a good score, BUT since the more difficult the case is, the more people could resort to not taking a guess, which leads to only a handfull of guesses being made, which in turn lessens the score the World in Harstem vs the World will get, since less guesses mean less consistent rounding. For example when rounding 10 guesses a deviation of one guess by 10 points would sway the rounding much more, that if there's 100 guesses. I'm pretty sure there are more problems with this, that I don't see at the moment. Maybe other viewers can get some input on that one as well. Thanks
@dominikmagnus
@dominikmagnus 3 года назад
Imagine someone now making a lot of fake accounts to make some dumb guess (like bronze 1 every single game) to make everyone, who doesn't participate take a lot of points... I guess I shouldn't have said that out loud, but I'm not the only one with the brains. You better come up with another plan for people, who don't participate and announce that, because this could end up pretty bad. If people leave backdoors like this and something's on the line I bet there's gonna be people, who would use it.
@Harstem
@Harstem 3 года назад
Hey, We are looking at ways to improve this with our team of highly trained monkeys. This has been a bit of an oversight on my part and we will try to get the best solution possible, we are looking into multiple options ( depending on what is possible with the way we collect and process data). Sorry for not having the greatest execution this time, we'll try to ease out the growing pains in the second half Kevin
@dominikmagnus
@dominikmagnus 3 года назад
@@Harstem that sounded quite fitting. Don't get me wrong the whole Rank Roulette is still 9/10. Would've been 10/10 if not for that strange decision. We usually feel passionate, when something we love is not up there with the gods.
@DerpRO070800
@DerpRO070800 3 года назад
On top of the world
@TheSwordfish-g3r
@TheSwordfish-g3r 3 года назад
How did they rank the guy doing disruptor + storm + observer micro + solid macro in platinum!!??
@WindsorMason
@WindsorMason 3 года назад
To me it was gold level unit comps and decision making + better micro and macro.
@TheSwordfish-g3r
@TheSwordfish-g3r 3 года назад
And they were right wtf
@Soygalactus
@Soygalactus 3 года назад
Agree with Lowko, you should totally do a Podcast!!
@sonicshaman2997
@sonicshaman2997 3 года назад
20:30 'this is a tough one, it's soo hard' seconds later: one of us is right, it has to be
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
Their minds work in mysterious ways!
@nekdo_kavc
@nekdo_kavc 3 года назад
Dam; now i am sorry i didn't play Harstem vs the world. In the last 5 games i only got 3 points so i would probably get the shirt, but at the beginning of the season i thought i had no chance.
@NeedASpot
@NeedASpot 3 года назад
Please do a podcast together. It can be about anything. Just do it
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd 2 года назад
I hope this isn't mean, but if harstem did the intro it would be better. I'm recalling how much he nailed the intro to starcraft 2day
@michael6909
@michael6909 3 года назад
Imagine that one guy that got almost all 0 and made 1 huge mistake.
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
That's a tilter...
@EndsHunter
@EndsHunter 3 года назад
You have DeMuslim as the guest in the description of the video
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
Thanks for the heads up!
@oblahuwtf5786
@oblahuwtf5786 3 года назад
Its so weird to hear Hamster without the voice distortion on, i legit freaked out a little bit xD Also shouldn't nit participating for a week be punished at least with one point? Or is this already accounted for and i missed it? Would be a shame for these who participate weekly and get good hit, but never would beat the slackers who get lucky once or twice.
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
We are currently looking at different options here. On the board we have the idea of really giving a penalty point per miss (additional to the average score) or maybe some kind of hybrid solution, giving a player the opportunity to miss 1 or 2 weeks without a direct penalty, but penalising them from the 3rd miss on.
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
But you should not forget, that it is impossible to win with just the average score, so either way it won't affect the top positions :)
@User-pn4zz
@User-pn4zz 3 года назад
In a tie, the one where Harstem had the highest score should win, because it suggests a harder video
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 3 года назад
Harstem is REALLY inconsistent with his guessing, especially if paired with different guests.
@User-pn4zz
@User-pn4zz 3 года назад
@@hamster_designs he’s inconsistent because some videos are harder to guess or are made misleading
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