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LS400 STRAIGHT PIPE (SUPER LOUD!!!) 

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@barrettf5413
@barrettf5413 7 лет назад
Everyone knew this was coming, next step is to slam it on hockey pucks
@DanielNeres
@DanielNeres 7 лет назад
I thought the same thing.
@mostchilldude
@mostchilldude 7 лет назад
haha I remember that og haggard vid
@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg
not that fucking shit LOL i remember that. what a waste..
@SouthPlanObservation
@SouthPlanObservation 7 лет назад
And then rodknock...after fixing the motor and painting the car comes the crash.
@michaelolsen5252
@michaelolsen5252 7 лет назад
i dont think so. Now they have money. So form hockey pucks to ebay coilovers. now to a decent brand. :D the lexus deserve it. it so damn good locking. i am in love and really want this car. Dont destroy it. please
@ciangallagher4556
@ciangallagher4556 7 лет назад
"Just passed emissions test so it's fully road legal" Next day- straight pipes
@calking420
@calking420 4 года назад
Noice!
@kclee
@kclee 7 лет назад
i used to be a fan...now im an intercooler
@mattisdecat7876
@mattisdecat7876 7 лет назад
ha ha ha, no
@asainboitimothy3104
@asainboitimothy3104 7 лет назад
James Dunne coolant one
@soupgaming705
@soupgaming705 7 лет назад
GRYZLER U is a fancooler then!! Lol
@alexomara3110
@alexomara3110 7 лет назад
am i the only one who just facepalmed?
@seskandtheothers8494
@seskandtheothers8494 7 лет назад
I like the new Chow Orion combo doing stupid stuff. it's a bit like the old days
@the_drift_gang
@the_drift_gang 7 лет назад
Day 1: "Bought a real clean Lexus" Day 2 "Lexus gets straight pipe" Day 3 "Slam a Lexus for free" Day 4 "Lexus destroyed"
@AndrewPruteanu
@AndrewPruteanu 2 года назад
Day 4 is impossible
@Oliver2020.
@Oliver2020. 2 года назад
@@AndrewPruteanu literally the truth. My transmission has been messed up on my ls400 for 2 years and i drive it daily and it still refuses to die. Needs valve stem replacement too as it blows smoke when i start it lol
@AndrewPruteanu
@AndrewPruteanu 2 года назад
@@Oliver2020. I really want an is f sometime, those are amazing cars
@dfyjjjfr6y
@dfyjjjfr6y 7 лет назад
Already loud LMAO😭😭😭 soon it gonna be "Lexus LS400 Hydro E Brake (IT RIPS)"
@macbookawesome17
@macbookawesome17 7 лет назад
Jedadiah Sands please that would be so sick
@lillexus5589
@lillexus5589 7 лет назад
Jedadiah Sands "LS400 Burning in new clutch" and 2 days after that "LS400 engine blown"
@macbookawesome17
@macbookawesome17 7 лет назад
no clutch in an auto
@twkado7986
@twkado7986 7 лет назад
u where so close to it
@jarredlehman9193
@jarredlehman9193 7 лет назад
chow officially has the best sounding car from haggard garage!!!!!
@speedyspeedboy436
@speedyspeedboy436 7 лет назад
jarred lehman Wait for the v6 Genesis to come out
@xTerraH
@xTerraH 7 лет назад
Speedy Speed Boy its a v6... in what universe will the genesis sound better than a 1uz?
@kundrra5424
@kundrra5424 7 лет назад
What do you expect from a 4.0 L v8??
@bestmillimeter1858
@bestmillimeter1858 7 лет назад
Big Smoke Two number 44s, one with cheese; and a large soda.
@vincentcorralez4772
@vincentcorralez4772 7 лет назад
chow gonna end up bringing this channel back. no bullshit #Haggard
@flexample9346
@flexample9346 7 лет назад
Vincent Corralez yeah its getting more and more like the old haggard used to be, just plain fun stupid shit really
@kaiyuVFX
@kaiyuVFX 7 лет назад
Vincent Corralez hell yea
@FujiShiina
@FujiShiina 7 лет назад
he has the most hack car the whole time xd
@vincentcorralez4772
@vincentcorralez4772 7 лет назад
Orion knows what he's doing. only time will tell.
@sydewayzsn9562
@sydewayzsn9562 7 лет назад
Fucknow no funk chow
@JusstinC
@JusstinC 7 лет назад
i may not understand a damn thing chow says but his smile is so heart warming
@toddbrown4185
@toddbrown4185 7 лет назад
Make chow his own shirt. He deserves one lmao XD
@traxxasslash95
@traxxasslash95 7 лет назад
Chow now owns the best sounding car in Haggard.
@gadgetmanconnor
@gadgetmanconnor 7 лет назад
I can't wait to hear chow in a drive through trying to order over the straight pipe
@EuroTrashLife
@EuroTrashLife 7 лет назад
Turn the car off to order, easy haha, then start it up and scare the shit out of the person behind him
@gadgetmanconnor
@gadgetmanconnor 7 лет назад
Still think it would make a good video
@devilskullBEL
@devilskullBEL 7 лет назад
Those Lexus v8's are actually silent as a mouse when idling, even without exhaust. You can('t) hear that at 12:10
@staticuzs1608
@staticuzs1608 5 лет назад
@@devilskullBEL your right I have a gs400 and its quiet
@viarella3434
@viarella3434 7 лет назад
dude this video had my smiling like the old days when I was that age fucking around like that..I'm a father and shit I would love to go back to those days..great vid!!
@thelbzlife9220
@thelbzlife9220 7 лет назад
og Haggard vibes
@BOT_TAHIR
@BOT_TAHIR 7 лет назад
such a fuckin awesome video
@itscroc_
@itscroc_ 7 лет назад
1:18 what do you mean by "it sounds like a v8"? I mean, it has a v8 lol
@user-og2wq9vf3b
@user-og2wq9vf3b 6 лет назад
Croc hes a amataur easy on him
@911wasindeedafalseflag
@911wasindeedafalseflag 6 лет назад
well its a small v8. the ls has an extremly quiet engine so the fact that it was louder he said it sounds like a v8...as in a real loud v8
@akellerseattle
@akellerseattle 6 лет назад
Croc I think it was more of a "now THAT sounds like a V8", as in the car was quiet before and now it sounds like a real v8
@kylebradley8963
@kylebradley8963 5 лет назад
Croc THANK YOU
@AndrewPruteanu
@AndrewPruteanu 4 года назад
@@911wasindeedafalseflag that's a small v8? It's a freakin 4.6L. That's not that small.
@vladprud8760
@vladprud8760 7 лет назад
Next video: land yacht gets rear ended
@pv2roach11
@pv2roach11 7 лет назад
Vlad Prud next video transmission is shot in the Lexus. Cause 95-97 ucf20 lyfe
@lillexus5589
@lillexus5589 7 лет назад
pv2roach11 "LS400 engine and clutch blown" and "LS400 Drift prep"
@pv2roach11
@pv2roach11 7 лет назад
Natan Szulc next video boosting the Lexus. Next video chow stuffed the Lexus.
@mmyrvold5494
@mmyrvold5494 7 лет назад
We need cam back.. He is the only one who knows how to use power tools and isnt clumsy as fukk
@DatBlueHusky
@DatBlueHusky 7 лет назад
that 1uz gonna fucking outlast all the cars there
@_milo590
@_milo590 7 лет назад
DAT 30GB easily.
@PBplayer1202
@PBplayer1202 7 лет назад
DAT 30GB it's gonna outlast all the people there
@jeremyplc2380
@jeremyplc2380 7 лет назад
This is like bringing back the oldschool haggard garage! i absolutely love it dude! Big thanks to you guys you're the best !!!
@joshkree8016
@joshkree8016 7 лет назад
I'm a simple man. I see haggard upload, I pull down my pants
@koukiyuri3020
@koukiyuri3020 7 лет назад
JOEL LEE LMAO WTF?
@earnestbunbury2103
@earnestbunbury2103 7 лет назад
More like a simpleton than simple man...
@TarzanGTI
@TarzanGTI 7 лет назад
That's why I did... to take a shit of course...
@bUtMyRiGhTs
@bUtMyRiGhTs 7 лет назад
Mr.Racing or a Catholic priest
@twostroke12v71
@twostroke12v71 6 лет назад
Stay classy
@jakethedrifter.132
@jakethedrifter.132 7 лет назад
5:45 your staring at those welds like it's another dimension
@jasonfrazer9369
@jasonfrazer9369 6 лет назад
Jake The Drifter. My dad nearly went blind looking at a welder and he was even close to it
@DR-ld4jn
@DR-ld4jn 7 лет назад
It's amazing to think how many RU-vid channels haggard has spawned: Ricer Miata, tommyfyeah, grillos fruity ass channel, cams vlogs, Dylan's shit, Kelvin Malli, Donovan's channel and all the gaming stuff. Not to mention Dan. Probably missing a few but so many streams of income have been created by haggard for so many people. Pretty cool
@SirDougelton
@SirDougelton 7 лет назад
Not to mention all the copy cat channels too
@xXPandakXx
@xXPandakXx 7 лет назад
csl kelvins channel came from rudniks
@DR-ld4jn
@DR-ld4jn 7 лет назад
xXPandakXx And rudnick came from haggard
@hugocohdavid
@hugocohdavid 7 лет назад
csl whats dons channel?
@DR-ld4jn
@DR-ld4jn 7 лет назад
DANK DAVE it's in suggested channels
@jarredlehman9193
@jarredlehman9193 7 лет назад
1:16 "it sounds like a v8!" it is a v8 lol
@hunteraltman4762
@hunteraltman4762 4 года назад
Sounds like a v8, compared to a silent ride
@wackomanx
@wackomanx 7 лет назад
Oh it sounds like a V8? That's because all LS400's come with V8's... 1UZ... beast engine.
@joaoteixeira7288
@joaoteixeira7288 7 лет назад
i have one in my school hope one day i see it run!
@wackomanx
@wackomanx 7 лет назад
I hope so too. They are big and beautiful. The 1UZ is an awesome engine. Check out Matt Farah driving a 1UZ swapped Miata.
@invinciblejets4690
@invinciblejets4690 7 лет назад
No shit....
@FreeUpTheWeed
@FreeUpTheWeed 7 лет назад
wackomanx yeah,although most of them are quieter than this "stock" clip from what I've heard
@wackomanx
@wackomanx 7 лет назад
Yeah just sounded like Orion was surprised that it sounded like a V8. Not sure what he was expecting it to sound like. It's not an exotic V8 with a flat-plane crank and equal length headers.
@project_tripn9125
@project_tripn9125 4 года назад
As a ls400 owner who's painted his firemist gold, I can tell you that it does look good in gold
@blisswagersstreetball5554
@blisswagersstreetball5554 7 лет назад
*ladies, we got all these pipes* Chow 2017
@adirtyspritecup6505
@adirtyspritecup6505 7 лет назад
This man needs a fuckin Adidas sponsor already
@zjohnson9809
@zjohnson9809 7 лет назад
Those welds look like genital warts.
@DonPaco.
@DonPaco. 7 лет назад
Z Johnson saying it from expirience?
@zjohnson9809
@zjohnson9809 7 лет назад
El Paco Chingon Duh
@earnestbunbury2103
@earnestbunbury2103 7 лет назад
Don't crack them welds
@marquisethomas5611
@marquisethomas5611 4 года назад
RU-vidr : i straight piped my...*leaves resonators on* Factory od : cut the old exhaust off, go to auto zone & get 5 feet of straight pipe
@steefs6418
@steefs6418 7 лет назад
It needs a broken sticker
@DR-ld4jn
@DR-ld4jn 7 лет назад
Steef S Nah it'll get rear ended within a week after application
@lillexus5589
@lillexus5589 7 лет назад
csl before that they will blow the engine drifting it
@meatyman925
@meatyman925 7 лет назад
Wouldn't be Orion if he didn't beat on his friends cars.
@soundman_caraudio
@soundman_caraudio 7 лет назад
the shop is dope!
@1ruckus1
@1ruckus1 7 лет назад
how is your favorite flouta maker?
@1ruckus1
@1ruckus1 7 лет назад
flauta*
@LeninVera
@LeninVera 7 лет назад
SoundmanCA nice to see you on other channels. give him the grandma discount!!
@1ruckus1
@1ruckus1 7 лет назад
Lenin Vera 😂🤣😂
@tsnlhernandez13
@tsnlhernandez13 7 лет назад
SoundmanCA I didn't know that soundman still existed! Im subscribing.
@thelongranger55
@thelongranger55 6 лет назад
Lol there is a 1993 around the corner from my house for $1,000 , clean body no dents clean paint ( pearl white ) with Metallic charcoal gray strip on bottom half , this video convinced me to buy it today & do a straight pipe mod just so I can burn the tires ! Thanks guys I love this channel haha !
@JiSeestheworld
@JiSeestheworld 7 лет назад
VIP it
@troybursey5746
@troybursey5746 7 лет назад
starting to be like the old haggard vids again love it👍
@Bart-ns9bj
@Bart-ns9bj 7 лет назад
should do a manual swap
@brandonpavlock8961
@brandonpavlock8961 7 лет назад
john stone yes
@jakedalton3358
@jakedalton3358 7 лет назад
john stone maybe if you spelt it right they would
@hyr0llr
@hyr0llr 7 лет назад
john stone you should pay for the manual swap.
@DR-ld4jn
@DR-ld4jn 7 лет назад
john stone they go to Mexico enough I'm sure they could smuggle one up
@DR-ld4jn
@DR-ld4jn 7 лет назад
Cheeky edit
@alechendrix9367
@alechendrix9367 7 лет назад
Take it to Dans Rod & Customs, heard he's good at working on cars
@elcrack3343
@elcrack3343 7 лет назад
Houston Fiends he works nice with lexus
@MrMrWife
@MrMrWife 7 лет назад
Houston Fiends joke is old all ready
@lillexus5589
@lillexus5589 7 лет назад
Houston Fiends Heard he is quite cheap, only 5K for a roll cage and some other tweaks, just bring your car over to his shop he will have a look at it
@alechendrix9367
@alechendrix9367 7 лет назад
Natan Szulc 😂😂😂
@thegaslightneverends
@thegaslightneverends 7 лет назад
he has experience with lexus as well!!!
@joebluck3106
@joebluck3106 7 лет назад
no, hate, but why not just one whole piece? dont you have a tube bender...? awesome none-the-less. shoutout!
@mikelights8106
@mikelights8106 7 лет назад
Haggard af i absolutely love it
@ThePieman911
@ThePieman911 7 лет назад
Oh no boi, what is you doin, don't straight pipe your daily
@aaronryder8619
@aaronryder8619 7 лет назад
Luna Tuna It's haggard garage, what did you expect them to do to a "daily" ? I wouldn't be surprised if Chow made a channel called 'IDriftMyDaily' .
@maxpower700
@maxpower700 7 лет назад
with the pipe that far out from the bumper, it aint gonna be that bad. remember its a coupe with alot of deadening, being a lexus/rebadge vip-yota
@maxpower700
@maxpower700 7 лет назад
just listen to the last clip, window down, and it aint bad (on video atleast hah) :)
@sergiorodriguez6130
@sergiorodriguez6130 7 лет назад
Luna Tuna my daily mustang is full straight pipe with long tubes lol
@Doct0rEVille
@Doct0rEVille 7 лет назад
I daily my bugatti and its straight piped
@OverfedFish
@OverfedFish 7 лет назад
Next video: KICKED OUT OF THE SHOP!!!
@DonPaco.
@DonPaco. 7 лет назад
OverfedFish no
@bikeflippaztv8556
@bikeflippaztv8556 7 лет назад
Orion 2017- "Loud = Quality"
@mysticgaming1730
@mysticgaming1730 Год назад
Lowkey miss watching thaw goons all together
@fightmestupid
@fightmestupid 7 лет назад
I'm getting flashbacks from og Haggard
@louis-philippeaubin6259
@louis-philippeaubin6259 7 лет назад
"shit be lookin' like a killer whale intestin" - Damien 2017 😂😂
@monsterx625
@monsterx625 7 лет назад
Im not asian but I'll catch hands with Damian when he comes down to LA
@lukepaul2882
@lukepaul2882 7 лет назад
Bollo
@NISMOE-gd3qt
@NISMOE-gd3qt 7 лет назад
Herro
@tarungonneea4614
@tarungonneea4614 4 года назад
This isn’t even og haggard but it’s such a throwback
@Qogu
@Qogu 7 лет назад
Why did you guys just straight pipe the two resonators and mufflers?
@earnestbunbury2103
@earnestbunbury2103 7 лет назад
"four mufflers..."
@adamfortin11
@adamfortin11 7 лет назад
Chow is reviving this channel. I LOVED this video!
@dannykid28
@dannykid28 7 лет назад
Yoooo!!!!!! 4:50 that's my buddy Alberto's right hand drive v8 300zx!!!! crazy as fuck lmao his ig is @saabkid900t
@pompeydude123
@pompeydude123 7 лет назад
I like this. It's haggard back to its roots. This is the shit I love!!
@blakeb2634
@blakeb2634 7 лет назад
Chow looks so happy
@maattss_8129
@maattss_8129 7 лет назад
Damian and those impersonations are gold 😂😂😂
@ethanhoffman5120
@ethanhoffman5120 Год назад
weird how this is in my recommended and ken block is in it 😔
@booshninja431
@booshninja431 Год назад
Honestly bruh. RIP Legend
@chantzer0569
@chantzer0569 Год назад
welding w/ no gloves, hood, or even glasses. I trust it ngl
@chuki_george
@chuki_george 7 лет назад
next videos: Welding chows diff Slamming chows lexus + new wheels Chows car gets TOTALED
@ZEROTOSIDEWAYS
@ZEROTOSIDEWAYS 7 лет назад
this is why i started watching you back in the day
@mattytdb94
@mattytdb94 7 лет назад
Orion definitely knows how to throw that lexus around 👌 Sounds fucking nuts too, good shit chow 💯🚗💨🔥
@anthonybarela4559
@anthonybarela4559 6 лет назад
Man how cool is that, I mean chillin with a good group of friends in your own garage just wrenching eating pizza and roasting rubber! Thanks for putting a smile on my face,just subscribed to your channel
@muradkaratepe8499
@muradkaratepe8499 7 лет назад
2:08-3:26 omfg i'm dead 😂😂😂
@Gagaganerd
@Gagaganerd 7 лет назад
Now get him wheels and tires , coils and and turbo 🤘🏼
@IntegraDIY
@IntegraDIY 7 лет назад
Should put some clean VIP style wheels on the Lexo
@CoziestWeeb
@CoziestWeeb 7 лет назад
My favorite haggard garage car forsure
@mikekoksmal5053
@mikekoksmal5053 7 лет назад
ive seen more wercks in your videos then in my town
@Ramy_Ramz
@Ramy_Ramz 4 года назад
So lucky to be in Australia. We get all the authentic JDM imports.
@paul1s1
@paul1s1 7 лет назад
Someone sponsor these guys with a lift
@Boosker
@Boosker 7 лет назад
Really hyped for this build! When he started it I came instantly.
@spacer832
@spacer832 7 лет назад
now some vip wheels and coilovers, than turbo kit :))
@issorjmedia7770
@issorjmedia7770 7 лет назад
Spacer coilovers you mean hockey pucks
@ignoranceisbl1ss
@ignoranceisbl1ss 7 лет назад
You can make that thing look pretty cool actually...dang.
@Simple_tl
@Simple_tl 7 лет назад
where is cam
@anthony100x35
@anthony100x35 7 лет назад
Hosea JD im asking the same question
@dillon3129
@dillon3129 7 лет назад
kris200998 is he hooking up a hydro to the front wheels?
@Simple_tl
@Simple_tl 7 лет назад
did he get kik from Haggard Garage
@huckilt
@huckilt 7 лет назад
Hosea JD his Snapchat showed him with his family for his bday I think.
@javgee6733
@javgee6733 7 лет назад
He's with rudnik
@henrikostling804
@henrikostling804 7 лет назад
King Chowie got his new whip all squared and now the Haggard Boyz gon' slam it on hockey pucks and do brake burns all day. Friggen glorious.
@macncheese1991
@macncheese1991 7 лет назад
those pipes are so uneven it's driving me insane >.
@labombaromba
@labombaromba 7 лет назад
Lmao the Honda in the accident at the start and the fact that it was on Haggard instantly reminded me of the Burnout fire with Rudnick against the tree.
@PvMcris
@PvMcris 7 лет назад
This is probably that one car they shouldn't ruin...
@Rattle_canned_restorations
@Rattle_canned_restorations 7 лет назад
... you know you've done it right when the guy in the skyline is filming YOU, good shit dudes!
@haunted_.
@haunted_. 7 лет назад
fuckin Damien is such a character 😂😂😂
@nicpstg
@nicpstg 7 лет назад
this car is the return of classic HG
@johnparra1947
@johnparra1947 7 лет назад
Exhaust leak for sure
@richlincoln1824
@richlincoln1824 7 лет назад
Just gonna say it, this was the best video in a while
@ImCondor1
@ImCondor1 7 лет назад
*not trying to hate but Chow's Lexus has more progress than Orion's Lexus.*
@leonardr6704
@leonardr6704 7 лет назад
Might get one of these just for that sound, God damn
@MySpeed12
@MySpeed12 7 лет назад
LEXUS HYPE
@risenflame
@risenflame 6 лет назад
Built, not bought. Bravo!
@Black-en4gb
@Black-en4gb 7 лет назад
Let the rice begin
@kroniical3830
@kroniical3830 7 лет назад
Bro, Orion's donut was crazy as hell.
@alialani8408
@alialani8408 7 лет назад
Is it just me or did it sound like an E39 BMW M5 after the straight pipe?
@__jonksi__1542
@__jonksi__1542 7 лет назад
I'd say more like a 540i
@alialani8408
@alialani8408 7 лет назад
Yeah but both the M5 and the 540i both sound kinda similar after a straight pipe tbh
@torryminers2177
@torryminers2177 6 лет назад
Fr
@oneforalljustice5050
@oneforalljustice5050 5 лет назад
Nah sounds like a v8 Lexus.
@earthsperfectphotos9765
@earthsperfectphotos9765 7 лет назад
All the vids are great but this one was one of the funniest 😂 Thanks for the content and keep up the great work 🤙🤙
@JAKETHESNAKKE
@JAKETHESNAKKE 7 лет назад
they gonna blow up chows new car soon
@jdmtoyota7079
@jdmtoyota7079 7 лет назад
T I'm sure the 1uz can take that abuse
@nickbryant1343
@nickbryant1343 7 лет назад
JDM Toyota sure can they're very durable especially the first gen like I got. there's one on RU-vid with stock internals on 16 psi 640+HP
@torryminers2177
@torryminers2177 6 лет назад
Nick Bryant link?
@treweng7497
@treweng7497 6 лет назад
This dude called it 😂
@theoriginaljoke3.148
@theoriginaljoke3.148 7 лет назад
Re-subbed, this is the old haggard I've been missing.
@JDHBASS2448
@JDHBASS2448 7 лет назад
Chow and Damian now have the best sounding cars in the Haggard crew......until that 3.8 swap is done.
@chrishazen369
@chrishazen369 7 лет назад
that thing sounds MEEEEAN dude. I need one
@kayu8004
@kayu8004 7 лет назад
i liked the chinese talking OLOLOLOLOLOLOOL
@MrWAGNL
@MrWAGNL 5 лет назад
I just got an 92 LS400. I can’t wait.
@Boosker
@Boosker 7 лет назад
Everyone relax with the "Where is Cam" shit. He's been hanging with Rudnik for a few days. Check Out Cams Snapchat.
@siko142
@siko142 7 лет назад
its an ls 400. If I'm not mistaken its got a 1uz, thats a v8 with some punch! just if you if you didn't know.
@akiisemowski4745
@akiisemowski4745 7 лет назад
Hockey Puck it now that would be so haggard
@manny9fresh
@manny9fresh 7 лет назад
Orion a savage for drifting that boat
@jasonmartinez3174
@jasonmartinez3174 7 лет назад
I love chow lol
@emilschmidt5287
@emilschmidt5287 7 лет назад
Out here boiiii Tyler Fialko aint got nothing on us !!
@FranzJx
@FranzJx 7 лет назад
HAHAHAH
@wormgaming257
@wormgaming257 3 года назад
MAN WTF YOU DOIN HERE MAN
@kamronbates9642
@kamronbates9642 3 года назад
@@wormgaming257 how and why are we both hereo
@BasketballAve
@BasketballAve 6 лет назад
You guys are crazy welding with no goggles...that super bright light is going to deteriorate your vision and see spots all the time...your eyes will have a hard time seeing at night....take care and God bless...
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