LS9-THE MOST POWERFUL FACTORY LS CAM! WILL IT WORK ON A DESTROKED (4.8L CRANK) TURBO LS3 OR NA 5.3L 

I always wondered about the guys obsessed with making torque down low. Seems it might be good for an everyday use truck but maybe not for a car that wants to hook up on the rare occasion it may go full throttle.

If it works for you-then it is the right cam

I have the truck norris cam in my na at the moment 5.3 swapped sn95 pretty happy with it definitely drops off hard around 6300 or so but we need the rpm for the 1 to 2 shift and 2 to 3 shift to keep it on its toes curious to see how it acts with my s475 in spring

@@OAndy2222 damn i dont like that lol.. my 4.8 truck was ls6 cam shifting at 6300 and felt okay, i wanted to do same with my 5.3 and now am 100% sure ill go with the btr hot rod cam

@Honda Service Center I think the truck norris is probably the best bang for your buck on your low end torque i mean i definitely wouldn't mind 7k shifts but also didn't want to spend the time pulling heads and fighting with finding quality lifters the small cam should light up the s475 nice and low in the rpm range tho

Hmmm everyone forgot about the 2004 ls6 cam in a na and turbo back in the day people where in the 8 sec quarter mile range with that cam

@@OAndy2222 dont really care for low end, i will have a convertor to help me out, i just want to shift at 63-6400 rpm without falling out of powerband at all

You're the best!

@@richardholdener1727 I actually have a friend who works as a “promoter” not usually with RU-vid stuff but he’s a solid business partner. I plan to get him in touch with you if it’s something he’s interested in doing, and if it’s something you’re interested in checking out.

How much boost? Id assume 25+

@@Airman.. 26lbs.... though it didn't make much more power over 24. Turbo was done. Was the T4 1.10 AR S475.

@@AdamOpheim more boost will overcome cam shortcomings, less boost will be hp output limited by the cam breathability, you need a bigger inducer, with single turbo setup a 74mm inducer is too small, if your build can take more id suggest doubling it or go 88 or 90 pro mod snails

IT WON'T IDLE

@@richardholdener1727 Then why does the Truck Norris cam with 107 lsa work so well?

the Truck Norris isn't just a 107 lsa-it has valve events that allow it to do the things it does (after much design and testing). Those who focus on 1 aspect of the cam-are missing the big picture.

Take it from a GTO guy. Get rid of that damn cam. They do weird things to valvetrain harmonics.

YES WITH CHAD

how's the LT build going?

@@veganjoy Terrible. Canadian money is worth about as much as Mexican vs the US Dollar at the moment and I am still trying to find an engine builder that I am comfortable with to save me from ordering from the USA and paying a ton for shipping. If this was an LS, I wouldn't be so concerned, but I need someone who has experience with LT's and more than just CAM swaps.

@@joeyjojojr.shabadoo915 damn that's unfortunate. what shops in the US would be good with LTs? i know RPM in delaware has a kickass h/c/i package for LT1s but dunno if that translates to good knowledge for a higher displacement block

@@veganjoy MAST and LME are on my radar. My plans are very basic, but I have only seen Aluminum LT blocks sleeved out to 4.125" and I was hoping for 4.185" and do a 454 standard deck height LT and just order the 454r LS Rotating Assembly from GM Perf Parts and call it a day. Nothing fancy, just 12.0:1 on Pump Gas and use LT4 Injectors (as it's only going to be N/A). Not even sure if it's worth going aftermarket LT heads vs simply porting LT1 heads. My biggest concern is the Oil system. The variable vane LT pumps kinda scares me. Alternatively I could just use OEM GM parts and do an LT1 Corvette Dry Sump setup. I just don't want it to cost more for an N/A setup than it would have to just build a 427cu LT1 and turbo it.

@@veganjoy Take a look at American Heritage Performance out of Los Angeles. They are Corvette specialists, but they build a lot of engines that get rebranded by other shops as well. I've tuned a couple of big displacement LT setups from them that produced well over 1000 whp on E85 with a 2650 blower. I think they have a feature coming up on Engine Masters soon too.

Similar to the direction of my current build. For the cam, did you have to change timing cover and reluctor to run that cam? I have a lm7 in my truck, but I believe the one I am building is an L59. Also is a tune required? I plan for tuning with hptuners in the future after I break it in for a few hundred miles and save up. Thanks!

@@wht240sxka The L59 is essentially the same block as the LM7 you have now. My motor was changed to the different timing cover, but the LY5 is a gen iv motor and I'm using the stock reluctor wheel. The cam doesn't care which wheel you use as long as the cam position sensor and tune match the wheel. Yes you will need to tune it before you run it very far as the cam is very different from the stock cam. I wouldn't drive it without tuning it first. It will make less torque down low then the stock cam, but it makes a lot more top end power. You will also want to upgrade the springs in the heads as this cam is really designed to run over 6k rpm. I have my redline cutoff set at 6500, but it would pull to 7k and beyond if I let it. The stock truck valve springs are not designed to handle the higher rpms.

Thanks for coming

And it was used along with a blower

I have a ls9 cam I want to try it with nitrous 170 shot Its a good cam for the I should I change it for better one

This guy local to me threw a 3800 blower on a j swap in an eg hatch was nutz

call me

Displacement is the big thing-how you get it is a little thing

@@richardholdener1727 do you think the ls9 cam would work out good for a 5.7 ls1 with 243 heads and bigger injectors and bigger intake/throttle body?

@@germancantu9847 in the video, he said he never recommends it. So.

@@richardholdener1727is it possible to make 500 hp with a 5.3 na I have a 96 Chevy 1500 I wanna swap I have no experience with mods 6.0 to pricey in my area about double the price of a 5.3 what mods do you recommend me? That will still make it reliable daily driver, decent power

what is different about the aussie parts?

go 351W

please see the ls9 advance video

that would move the power band down to a lower rpm right?

@@veganjoy depending on the LSA it could increase power across the board without any loss on top.

4.8 IS A DESTROKED 5.3L

He's addressed this previously. They're still too expensive in the salvage yards, BUT, If someone wants to drop one off to him, he'll gladly put it through its paces.

@@genemounce8302 thanks for the info! Cant say I’m dropping mine off haha

An oil-less turbo can be a temporary turbo... Turbos will tend to quickly destroy the self-contained oil because of the extreme heat in operation- read: tend to. A lot of attention to operating parameters will be required.

Sadly read the same. Heard if you go with billet compressor wheels it helps, but it’s damn hard to find a budget friendly turbo kit for the challys, unfortunately.

David is a good guy-I speak to him often-he is doing a ported 2.2l dodge turbo head for me

I used David V' calculations on my pump gas 461. I called Isky and they cut me one real close to my original, but with a 104 center. More power everywhere!

@@richardholdener1727 I'm sorry for contacting you get but I didn't know how to otherwise. Have you ever tested the KAnd N stub stack and do they gain or lose

4/10ths of a point is a change of roughly 1.5% in power

why would you choose a centrifugal to feed a turbo-the centrifugal makes very little boost down low

please see the many 6.0l vids up that show combos to choose from. a 6.0l with a cam and turbo will do that

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1X4fzLiTlAA.html his 383 ls shootout does over 500 ft*lbs

I noticed that the dyno run starts at 3500 rpm. Would this cam require a higher stall torque coverter? Would it be soft at 2000 rpm as I'm driving around town?

yes-the valve evens and very wide lsa is how most of the pd blower cams are ground

NO SIR

YOU WILL NEED A TUNE AND BIGGER INJ

hope it actually goes into production (thoughts on not using the word thoughts any more in comments)

was never offered in any production car-I have run them

WOULD BE GOOD

there is no EXTRA burnout-there is only burnout or no burnout..In my Yoda Voice!

@@richardholdener1727, burnout, you must . . . lay rubber, you will. lol

STOCK MANIFOLDS ARE GOOD

I never find those

It’s been done more tq sooner but with positive displacement blowers it can make a car have no traction lol GM made it be soft in the hit since the blower makes instant tq

please see the ls9 cam advance video

ALWAYS MORE TO TEST AND LEARN

@@richardholdener1727 put David Vizards Cam calculations to the test! ;) There is alot of talk out there but not many videos or evidence of it actually working for LS engines :/

YES

YES ON 8000

3-BOLT TO 3-BOLT? AND DD IT HAVE THE RIGHT X PATTERN FOR THE CAM SENSOR?

@@richardholdener1727 It's three bolt yes. Online mine looks exactly like the LS2 sprocket. I have the cover, sensor installed. Tried to fire it up awhile back it wouldn't. It's in a gutted S10. It's carbed with a 800 CFM jetted to 1000. Elderbrock Victor Jr intake, ported and polished 706 head's, big valve springs. Put a 80 mm turbo in the bed with intercooler in bed. Has a 250 adjustable NOS plated on intake. Put nos on it due to the cam being sloppy out of the hole. Iv ran nos for 23 years now on my mustang and brothers mustang. Be cool to see that 4.8 you have with the LS9 cam, turbo and 75 shot nos out of the hole. It would keep them rpms up higher for sure out of hole. Hey something to try right 👍

does it have factory eccu? if so, you need a 1x trigger wheel and will need to move the cam sensor to the new design front cover with the proper cam sensor. LS2 might be 4X

less then just leaving it 6.2Ls

I also want to add that the different variations between the LS blocks and heads is confusing to me. It sounds like I can use 6.0 heads on a 5.3…?

your 4l60e wont take 600 hp

Okay fair enough, rather know that now than find out the hard way. What kind of power upgrades would you recommend for my setup? Also curious if you know what power the 4L60E is capable of handling. Thank you!

a cam won't do that

@@richardholdener1727 What will, besides boost?

@@sjcperformanceou can stroke the LS6 to 383. Higher Compression, forged internals, big camshaft, high flowing cylinder heads.

@@sjcperformancethere’s also the use of nitrous

everything is important

THE LST STUFF WORKS WELL

various with tests

no

@richardholdener1727 thank you uncle Richard putting in my ls7 cam tomorrow on my 6.0L caprice 🫡

Obviously the 6.0L is going to be easier to get there. Just a cam, tune, and bolt-ons.

@@IndenturedSavant13 in my junkyard in bakersfield ca there's a couple 6.0 s but there's also a aluminum 5.3 from a envoy delani that's why I was asking? But thanks for the info there's a yukon xl motor waiting. ✌

I have the l33 aluminum 5.3. The truck intake manifold is good(the denali may have the newer 5.3) but you may want to upgrade for a larger throttlebody. Exhaust and cam with tune will get you that 500hp or very close. The accessories will rob some power but you'll be really close. The 6L if you don't need the weight savings is nice due to the fact that it either hadbrec port heads or can fit them. From the factory the rec port heads are just superior to the cathedral ones...ported is different but their are many great factory rec port heads that flow ported head numbers and used are cheap. It's very easy to get 500hp+ out of a 6L with mild selection of parts. And that's with good torque as well. 600hp is fairly easy to achieve on stock internals with a careful selection of parts..but you'll loose some power down low as tha trade-off. I personally stroked mine for the torque, wish I had ported the heads(799's) but upgraded everything to handle boost and 7200rpm. Good luck, personally I'd look at how much they want for each and the mileage and condition of the motor and choose from there

@@mythos000000025 I am going with the 6.0 I think the aluminum 5.3 would be cool but It would mean more work I just wanna stick with the kiss rule. But thanks for all the info really appreciated 👍 ✌

@@joseperez8769 grab the heads off the l33 and use them on the 6.0. they should be 799s. Get the exhaust port ported if you can. Grab a TBSS intake and 90mm throttle.

I can tell you about the stage 3 in a square headed 6.0 and it works well.

@davidreed6070 I am building a twin turbo'd 6.2L using the stage II Twin turbo cam with ported square port LS3 heads. Just trying to get a feel on what It can do.

yes-I have run the stage 2 TT cam

@@chijiokepenny2100 I am a person who matches engine components as well as possible. The hot side of my turbos, the wheel is an 80/73 with a.91 ar. I drove the car all around na..it ran good.

yes

@@richardholdener1727 thank you sir. Good videos!

power curve was provided

@@richardholdener1727 i see the graph but cant spot it is it 6600?

I'll take it. Message me

no torque

@@NTRGFX , the dyno numbers don't look bad. To me, 106 is narrow, 114 is wide, and 122.5 is extreme.

That's a blower cam for you.

@@NTRGFX you don't gotta worry about torque with a positive displacement blower which is why it is the way it is.

NO

Well a converter would take care of that but I assume you want to race stock converter in each

More power up top wins period. You aren't in that low rpm much when racing maybe on the launch but once you pass that rpm range you never see it again through a run so the top end makes alot more difference as far as an all out wot run. On the street you spend more time in that range so you may wanna go with the one with more torque that is up to how you want your powerband but as far as which one would be quicker in an all out run the one with more top end is gonna pull.

the ls9 cam can be run on any ls

the ls9 is a low buck factory cam-where is the money throwing

@@richardholdener1727 I mean in general... This video reminded me.

If only you looked at the many, many playlists on the other engine families before making this silly comment

I DON'T EALLY DO SWAPS-CHECK OUT SLOPPY MECHANICS FOR THAT

@Richard Holdener okay thank you, it's not really a swap it's just taking a 5.3l engine that's currently in the truck and building it up for power

do you have hp tuners or some ability to tune the new combo?