Lucy Letby: A timeline of the most prolific child killer in modern Britain - BBC Newsnight 

The amount of lifes lost to protecting reputation and business is beyond sick.

Prison sentences of various lengths should be dispensed to hospital executives for their grossly nonchalant attitude to the concerns about Letby raised by staff. More children died as a result. Those responsible should not get to walk away.

She shouldn't be the only one to go to jail.

Germany here, we had a case of a patient killing nurse (adult critical care patients) and the hospitals he worked at refused to take action despite multiple warnings by doctors and colleagues. He was able to kill dozens over several years (number will never be determined exactly because the bodies of potential victims were already too decomposed to prove anything) before he was eventually stopped. So, blocking investigations into suspected harming and killing of patients is not just a problem the UK healthcare system.

Jesus, my own child is 8. This hits home so much bc i went into premature labour and relied completely on the specialist Dr's and nurses to keep my baby alive. If he'd have passed I don't know how I'd have survived. I've had 2 miscarriages and was told I was infertile. What this creature did to these families and loved one's will never be fixed, it will never end, and will forever torment the victims.

If this happened to my daughter I wouldn't accept a penny I'd want senior management to go to jail. For incompetance

Those managers need to be charged for negligent homicide, to allow this for going on for months after the initial complaints. They deserve prison as well.

The former medical director and executive should be held responsible for something in this tragedy, they forced the doctors to write an apology to the killer WHILE SHE WAS CARRYING OUT HER HEINOUS CRIME! This is beyond insane

I am a nurse myself, but in my opinion all healthcare providers should take psychological/psychiatric tests prior employment.

More than a third of health care workers have suicidal thoughts I used to be a nurse once a blue mood and watching people suffer did actually lead me to suicidal thoughts, I feel healthcare workers are more likely to want to kill themselves than others, most healthcare workers go onto the profession because they like people and want to help, I hope people understand that. But then there are nurses who I have met who have confessed that they hate people, they hate children, they hate old people, they don't care, they have bad attitudes and I don't think those types of people should be tolerated on any wards but somehow they keep their jobs. Psychoanalysis should be done on every nurse 6 monthly in my opinion.

WTF is the management doing? COMPLETE INSANITY

I work in the head office of an NHS hospital, it's absolutely unfathomable that these concerns weren't immediately listen to and no action was taken sooner. Senior Management have blood on their hands

Hats off to the person who brought this matter to light and who raised a police complaint against her 🙇🙇

I was in ICU when I was born. I owe my life to the medics who took care of me way back then. To think that someone in their position was deliberately causing devastating harm to and taking the lives of such children is utterly abhorrent.

It's so sad and horrific. To think that one baby was murdered on the fourth attempt. The poor little child managed to survive three times, only to succumb on the fourth time. It's so weird that someone like Letby obviously impressed her nursing college and her employers, whereas other less confident, but basically good students and nurses would have been chewed up and spat out by that system.

I don’t understand how managers did not even suspect her, they should keep an eye on her after first death. Also it’s the managers fault that so many kids died. I’m surprised there are no cameras, it’s very strange

Condolences to the parents and their families. Very sorry for their loss 😢

Management in various hospitals up and down the country behave in a similar manner. It’s not just unique to the hospital in Chester. It’s generally non-medical management that are the primary problem and constantly stop medical clinicians from doing their job. There must be a full public inquiry into what happened at the neonatal unit and hospital that Letby worked at. Those that failed to listen must be held to account!

These top managers earn yearly salaries of £160,000 + benefits . They should be sacked instead of moving on to other trusts !!!

The management needs to be fired and jailed - real consequences for negligence causing death!

Interesting to see how the hospital directors now say "we will co-operate fully" AFTER the conviction - but vigorously resisted co-operating years before it.

This is as devastating as it’s infuriating. I cannot begin to imagine the pain those precious babies went through. A neo natal ward should have been the safest place for them. There are a few NHS doctors in my family and they’re all crushed by this Letby case as are all decent people. The senior managers have to be held accountable, it was their lackadaisical approach which empowered Letby to continue her evil plans. If clinicians tell you about a colleague you HAVE to take prompt action. Lucy Letby should have been dragged into the courtroom and made to listen to the families impact statements. She doesn’t get to choose anything Shipman, Allet, Norris and now Letby are simply demons in human form.

As a nurse myself, I'll never understand this😢

"What lessons can be learned", is the words we often hear from politicians. After the case of Beverly Allitt, was there any protocols or even guidance issued for dealing with medics who are suspected of bad intentions? The fact that managers were able to dismiss the suspicions of so many other medical people and threaten them with consequences, suggests that no lessons were learned at all and no protocols or guidance exists.

Having read the facts of this case, the fact that Lucy was found guilty at all is an absolute travesty. Poor Lucy is paying for the incompetence of others who aren’t honest enough to admit their shortcomings. That the justice system in this country can’t see the truth leaves us knowing that none of us will truly get justice when the system is as corrupt as this.

She has dragged the NHS name through the dirt. My daughter died a few hours after birth and we had midwives and consultants with us the whole time giving my daughter the best opportunity at life. In the end we made the decision to let her fall asleep as the consultant was physically giving her oxygen for 3 hours. Everyone involved in my daughters life and death were amazing. They were supportive and understanding. Most importantly they explained what was wrong with my daughter and showed why it was highly likely she wouldn't survive without being given oxygen. I miss her every day but it eases my mental health knowing everyone did all they could. It must be torture to lose your child and then find out they were actually murdered. That vile person (not going to even say her name) should rot in prison for the rest of her days. No doubt that she will kill herself one day to escape a life sentence.

Bit bloody late to be cooperating. It’s not just the monster Letby but the system ( see “trusts” - which is ironic) which allowed this to happen. If I was one of these poor parents I’d be taking these trusts to court for failure to do their jobs.

So where are the Executive Members ( they are not staff) who ignored 7 Consultants and pursued their "Trust Image?" All retired on Gold Plated pensions or moved on to other Trusts to reinforce some other "Trust Values". Anybody who was involved in this Mass Murder should be brought to account for Criminal Negligence.

Corporate manslaughter charges need to be applied in these situations. Not only to get justice for the families, but to scare future executives into action when they are brought accusations of malpractice, as they too would be threatened with jail time.

I was born 9 weeks premature and spent several months in NICU. This case is horrifying and hits home as I was dependant on the doctors and nurses for my every need and survival. What she did to her victims and their parents is utterly unforgivable. My heart goes out to them.

The NHS management is rotten.

Letby's parents must be wondering where they went wrong. This whole thing is a parent's worst nightmare on so many levels.

I live across the pond in the state of Washington. I am a retired RN in Infection Control & Prevention. Listening to this insane tragedy and how the physicians were not taken seriously and were actually blamed for thinking it could be a nurse is gut wrenching. If this had occurred at the hospital where I used to work this is what would have happened. * after 1st death Infection Control would have reviewed the chart and then reviewed the case with the Pediatric Infectious Disease Physician * after 2nd death Infection Control would be creating an Excel spreadsheet comparing the 2nd death to the 1st; listing everything from diagnosis, room number, ALL similarities with staff, and so on. At this point Risk Management would be involved with Infection Control and the Regional Infection Control Manager would be notified. * after the 3rd death, the nurse would have been identified as the common denominator in all the cases and the heads of Infection Control, Risk Management, and the Regional Office would come to a solution. I am not saying all of this as criticism, I’m confused as to why other departments such as IC and Risk were not involved. One death is horrible but with two deaths occurring, no one is working normal hours anymore and charts are torn apart, nurses are interviewed, practices are reviewed, rounds on that floor are constantly occurring and if deaths continue the Center for Disease Control & Prevention on the other side of the country would be notified and invited to come to the hospital. Please excuse this expression, “shit would hit the fan.” Something would be done…it would not be allowed to continue even if it meant doubling up on nurses for each baby. Do you think policies will be changed in this hospital going forward?

There are questions that needs to be asked about how baby killer Letby was left in her role after so many had raised concerns about her. About how she was able to raise a grievance procedure against those who raised the concerns and it was found in her favour. Allison Kelly was the senior manager in charge of nursing and has only just been suspended after she was moved to another role within the NHS trust at the Northern Care Alliance as a nursing director. Ian Harvey was the medical director at the time and was allowed to retire in August 2018 just one month after Letbry was arrested with a pension pot of £1.8 million. Tony Chambers was the chief trust executive who was also allowed to retire in September of 2018 with a pension pot of £1.5 million. It stinks, all of it, the doctors and nurses who raised concerns who were chastised for doing so, who were ignored allowing this killer to carry on and cost the lives of more babies and these people seem to be able to walk away? Two of them being paid vast amounts from the public purse in pensions without it seems any recourse whatsoever. They should have been sacked and the pensions denied and now they should be held accountable for manslaughter in the very least. Because now this vile excuse for a human being has been locked away for the rest of her disgusting life should not mean this is over. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2jnDr5EIpmY.html

What's shocking is that noone from management is held accountable! Enabling at it's finest!

As a newcomer, I moved to the UK less than 3 years. I really hate the work culture. When I pointed out the issues, I was told I was harsh. When I heard my colleague said she doesn't want to see blame culture. I think blame is good. In my culture, we say the issues. Not suppress it. Now, I just don't give a shit at work. The management just wants peace.

The weirdest thing is that the evil among humans looks so human

Well done to the doctors for pushing the police investigations. As for the management, trying to brush it under the rug to protect the hospitals reputation, they are practically guilty of aiding and abetting Lucy Letby.

So management completely ignored what they were supposed to manage.

Lucy did not have a fair trial. The similarities with the famous case of Lucia de Berk in the Netherlands are deeply disturbing. it was manifestly clear to me that she was not getting a fair trial. Science was being abused. The police were called in to investigate unexplained deaths on the ward and to assess if a crime had taken place. EVERYONE who worked on that ward during that period begins the police investigation as a potential suspect. But the police began their investigation, of a potentially unfathomably serious crime scene, by strolling in and meeting with senior doctors and consultants for a briefing. They then proceeded to investigate as instructed by the doctors and consultants. Those doctors and consultants were SUSPECTS! These are the same doctors and consultants who made the accusations. Since when, in any potential murder enquiry, has the person/persons reporting the crime been discounted as a suspect before the police even reach the crime scene? Their potential negligence or the possibility that they may have been the murderer was never investigated. If this case wasn’t political from the beginning, it certainly is now. I don’t think it was ever about justice, it was always a face-saving exercise, initiated by another failing, underfunded hospital, who knew there was doctor/consultant negligence involved in most of the unexpected deaths and events on the ward, many of which happened when Lucy wasn’t on shift. Babies dying as a result of negligence or understaffing is a bomb waiting to go off, which would have decimated the already dwindling public confidence in our NHS. That would be very damaging for the politicians who rely on public support to stay in power. Because the NHS is funded by the government and ultimately of course, the electorate. The government, which means the electorate, fund the police too, through grants to each local force. In the last few years, the reputation of the police and public sentiment towards them has justifiably fallen dramatically and must be close to an all-time low. Is it possible that the government and senior officers were desperate to restore some faith in the police force? Cracking the ‘crime’ of the century would go down well with the public! We’ve seen how political and senior police heads roll when they screw up. This investigation was very high profile, very emotive, very long and expensive and, with their reputation in the gutter, it was important for the police to come out triumphant. And it would look terrible for the NHS if all those doctors/consultants in just one department of just one hospital were found to be negligent by the police and their neonatal ‘expert’ (with no neonatal experience). Oh the damage that would do to the NHS, and of course the government, who pay those negligent consultants’ generous wages, but underfund the hospital so badly. It’s SO much less damaging to their reputations to pin everything on one lone murderer. It certainly takes public attention away from the failures of the more powerful parties, if the public have a single villain to target with their fury and hatred. Not to mention the money it’d probably save the NHS/government in medical negligence compensation lawsuits. The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) and the Criminal Justice system (CJS) are also funded by the government. Following a hugely expensive investigation by the CPS and a trial costing the electorate £Millions, can you imagine the implications for our national institutions, if she’s granted an appeal and exonerated? For starters: 1. The CJS isn’t fit for purpose. 2. The CPS isn’t fit for purpose. 3. The police force isn’t fit for purpose. 4. The NHS isn’t fit for purpose and 5. The sheepish police and CPS have to begin a new, highly expensive investigation that might lead to more highly expensive criminal proceedings against negligent doctors. Far cheaper and less damaging to leave one woman sat in a cell for the rest of her life. Plus it pleases the electorate, many of whom think she should be tortured and executed ASAP. All those votes gone if she’s even granted an appeal! Countless more millions votes gone when those services are found to have failed and she’s exonerated! And then there’s the shame they’d all face when they have to get on their knees and give Letby a grovelling apology and pay her very substantial damages. In summary, her acquittal would be a very bad day for a lot of very powerful people and institutions. It would shatter the electability of the government who have overseen all those institutions for the last 13 years. Very weirdly, Ben Myers KC, for Letby, agreed with the prosecution to exclude from the trial, statistical evidence that more or less proved her innocence, because it was confusing? It need be no more confusing than the information in this paragraph. It simply needs an independent expert to do the analysis and present the conclusions to the Jury. Why did you agree to exclude it Mr Myers? And why did you agree not to contest an absurd insulin reading, that forced Letby to say, the insulin must have been administered maliciously when there are multiple other explanations for the reading? I also understand Mr Myers had two paediatric medical experts of his own who reviewed Dr Evans’ reports and listened to his testimony. I understand they were in the courthouse waiting to testify in Lucy’s defence, waiting to challenge Dr. Evans’ testimony. Waiting and waiting in a nearby room, but never called to testify by Mr Myers. Why? And where is Mr. Myers now? There are multiple questions hanging over his defence of Letby, but he remains silent. There’s no reason for his silence…..or is there? Myers needs to explain how and WHY he failed to successfully defend her. It was in everyone’s interest that she was found guilty, except hers, and it’s in everyone’s interest that she doesn’t get an appeal, except hers. 1. Air embolism cannot be determined by imaging, and can only be determined soon after death, and requires the extraction of air from the circulatory system, and analysis of the composition of the air using gas chromatography. 2. The coroner found a cause of death in 5 out of 7 of the alleged murder cases. Two of them appeared to be, in part, related to aggressive CPR, two appeared to be due to undiagnosed hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy and myocarditis, one of the infants received no autopsy, and the other infant was determined to have died due to prematurity. It is highly unusual for the cause of death to be altered years after the fact and using methodology that is not supported by the coroner’s office. 3. The two claims of insulin poisoning are not supported by the testing conducted, and the infants (who are still alive and well) did not have dangerously low or dangerously high blood glucose levels for any period of time. There are many physiological reasons that could explain their low blood glucose during the whole period. In one of the two cases, assumptions are being made on the basis of one test taken at a single time point, clearly inconsistent with the other medical readings, and contravening the manufacturer’s own instructions for use (see image below). The report detailing the conclusions from that single test violates the code of practice of the forensic science regulator. Moreover, it appears that some numerical error has been made in the necessary calculation, resulting in an outcome which is physiologically impossible (or the person responsible did not know about the so-called “hook effect”). The mismatch between C-peptide and insulin concentration does not prove that the excess insulin found must have been synthetic insulin. There are many other biological explanations for a mismatch. No testing was done to determine the origin of the insulin. Similarly, there are many innocent explanations for the detection of some insulin in a feeding bag. 4. The air embolism hypothesis is confusing because it fails to explain why some children apparently perished and others did not, and it has not been supported by the minimal necessary measurements. 5. In at least one case, Lucy is blamed with causing white matter brain injury. This claim is utterly dishonest. The infant who experienced this brain injury was born at 23 weeks gestation, and white matter brain injury is associated with such early births. Further, there is sufficient evidence that demonstrates that enterovirus and parechovirus infection has been linked to white matter brain injury in neonates, resulting in cerebral palsy. 6. At the time of the collapses and deaths of the infants, enterovirus and parechovirus had been reported in other hospitals. There is a history of outbreaks of these viruses in neonatal wards in hospitals around the world. They especially harm preterm infants who do not yet have a functioning immune system. It is reported that many parents of the infants were concerned that their ward had a virus (as was Lucy) and that Dr Gibbs denied this was so. To date we have seen no evidence to show they did any viral testing, and if they did what the results were. Oh and those so called ‘codes’ that the press used to say were codes for murder? That is one of the biggest lies and misleading evidence I have seen.

She was a sadistic psychopath in my opinion and knew full well what she was doing and got pleasure from it.

The editing around the laptop interview was the strangest thing I've ever seen from a news program.

My son was born prematurely and was in the hospital for close to a week after birth. This news is so hard to see, how could this happened.

A public inquiry needs to be conducted

What an awful awful awful management system. Even if there weren't killers out there, ignoring potential problems for as long as you can (allowing them to fester) should be a fireable offense.

CCTV in the room. Right now. It's an emergency. Every day they are not installed is another failure.

She deserves what she got . Those poor small babies and their families . And those other evil people. What a world

Any medical directors that delayed the investigations should be put on trial also.

OMG this is just so incredibly upsetting I can't even fathom how on earth she could be so incredibly cruel to such beautiful vunerable and precious little babies - it's just beyond comprehension. I dont even know how the parents could EVER recover from such a pointless and unnecessary and totally preventable tragedy 😭😭😭

What dreadful pathology is it that drives such an allegedly dedicated nurse to murder her helpless victims? We must at least attempt to study her in order to understand more!

"She is not the first NHS serial killer and unlikely to be the last." What?!? Sorry I'm not British but I don't think this is normal thinking. The British public should not accept this as something inevitable.

My mother was stuck in a ward of hell in Wellington Hospital in New Zealand where elderly were neglected and abused. Wellington Hospital NEVER apologised or took responsibility. ABSOULTELY ABHORRENT!!!!!!!!

Management are to blame…the NHS cover up a lot deaths due to their neglect. I lost my premature son who was doing well and when I addressed lessons to be learnt from his death the NHS consultants completely ignored us. I have no trust in the NHS and I would urge everyone to question and challenge any medical treatment you undergo on the NHS. Unfortunately we do not have qualified medical professions and the NHS is so understaffed the government would recruit anyone. I have witnessed the way nurses were treating babies in neonatal and soon as a parent you raise concerns they quickly cover it up. I honestly believe a lot of neonatal deaths are covered up using the excuse of prematurity. I recall one of the student doctor decided to go back to his country and when he was saying bye to me I could see concern in his eyes and that what he learnt in that hospital was not nice so he no longer wants to stay in this country. At that time I wish I had raised my concerns but my focus was on my son and getting him home soon and this is going back to 2019 plus this was a well known London hospital. My advice to everyone when you are being treated by the NHS keep an eye and question everything as they are lacking a lot of professional staff.

There are striking parallels between the reactions of the hospital's management to the dead babies and how the Catholic Church reacts to sexual abuse reports. It gets ignored. In the hope the problem goes away on its own? Gambling with childrens' lives? No serial killer or serial rapist will stop on their own. The amount of damage these individuals are causing is immense. It goes far beyond the direct victim's. There's the families, it causes tremendous trauma that usually affects every member of the victim's family. Then the staff or members of the church or wherever else these things are happening, entertainment business, etc. All these people around the psychopath criminals are suffering without a doubt in one way or another, the events themselves are traumatic. And there's always the moral dilemma while this is still on going undetected that comes up when a suspicion is growing, that can erode and destroy a workplace. Victims who have survived are traumatized or will be affected by physical health issues caused by the abuse. And yes the entire hospital gets a bad rep as well, which impacts the entire staff negatively. There's so much fallout that is eroding the societal fabric around these acts. All caused by a single individual. They really must get a kick out of that. I think for certain jobs a psychological evaluation and screening should be mandatory. It's not uncommon in other occupations so why not for all jobs where people could nudge a person who is vulnerable and at their mercy over the edge and kill or harm them in the most hideous and cowardly secret way. Surely there's ways to notice them? The issue is that it goes into territory where you discriminate against neurodiverse people who haven't commited any crime.

I was placed on a maternity ward during my training which was being investigated for abnormally high mortality rate , the atmosphere was intolerable , and my overwhelming impression of the staff there was that many were insufferable narcissists who felt above any critique , as hard as that is to imagine perhaps nursing attracts this type of person as well as the genuinely caring

Lucy Letby's "personal relationships" within the hospital will eventually come to light.

Sorry to all parents and the families.😢😢

Trying to protect their reputation, look at their reputation now! 🤦🏾‍♀️ My condolences to the families ❤🙏🏾

This happening in a country like UK where human life is given so much importance is just sickening. I pray for the parents who lost their child. May God be with them in these hard times.

WHY ON EARTH aren't those NHS people sued for gross negligence? The families of the killed infants should get themselves a good lawyer and start proceedings for a class-action lawsuit!

I am incredulous about the ex-hospital manager's statements in this video. The unforgivable delays in bringing this case before the police needs a thorough investigation. And now an investigation calling only for voluntary witnesses is another layer of delay in knowing the full truth.

It's like the old saying goes "kill seven, you're a murderer, kill millions, it's a sudden death statistic".

That is an absolute disgrace, the higher ups in the nhs need to be held accountable, the first tome a query was raised she should have been investigated, 10 innocent childrens lives could have been saved if it wasnt for complete negligence

The hospital and those executives who did nothing about it for 2 years should be sued and found guilty as well. Smh 😢

I know of a GP who refused to give a referal for an XRay the Dr felt it was a waist of time since the patients was an 87yrs old who was a carer for a disabled 55yr old man and the old 87yr old was suffering sciatica nerve pain in his back and down his leg. He had to lift the 55yr old into and out of the bath daily. Now tell me at what age are we to old to be given help and left to suffer but still to have to care for our loved ones.That GP knew his situation but didnt give a shit. That GP should be stripped of the qualifications and not allowed to ever practice again. When did the hypocratic oath drop from the Drs swearing in ceremony. This is disgusting and the NHS has to answer from the Top of the chain to sort this type of disgusting and cruel treatment out.

What a shocking case. Why on earth did she do that?!😢

Now let’s see a timeline on how the NHS management who ignored warnings left her free to kill & they walked away from their jobs unpunished. They are complicit

I hate the cover ups in the medical world to try to sweep the murders under the carpet to keep the reputation and money of the hospital safe! Now those people that tried to cover it up should be charged too for obstruction of justice. How can 7 clinical experts come with evidence to say there is possible murders going on and then the boss tries to sweep it under the carpet and make those 7 clinical experts apologise to the perpetrator? Those bosses should be in JAIL

Lots of love and condolences to the parents that lost their kids. ❤ This lady is a psychopath.

Senior medical staff should run the hospitals. Not non medical they don’t understand the true nature of true medical needs .As a retired registered nurse. I remember managers being brought into the Health Service. They are more concerned about money than the health of the nation. 😢

They all predate on the most vulnerable members of society, the very young and the very old. Utterly cowardly and shameless.

Last year I lost my baby at 21 weeks at Southmead Hospital, Bristol.I was calling the antenatal unit according to their maternity’s book protocol they did not let me come for check up , the nurses keep telling me have paracetamol and they don’t want any unnecessary admission, and after two days I beg to the nurses to come their and even they were very rude to me over the phone and I managed to go there and I had my late miscarriage at 21 weeks , and many nurses keep telling me it meant to happen no sympathy whatsoever for me my child died after 1 hour after born , they explained me the child will die soon, but hardly anybody was with me , only me and my husband, I didn’t like how I was treated there, I asked them for enquiry they did not give me any particular answer too felt so vulnerable. I think now nurses are too rude to look after others, I am just telling my experience so don’t feel personal.

Why do news outlets protect the hospital management by not focusing on their enabling? It gives the serial killer so much more thrill knowing they can keep doing it.

Please take action on those who failed to investigate during the 2 years from the first death, they are more responsible than this convicted. Rest in Peace all those Lovely infants

This frightens me even more to think that how many more must be out there right now with the same intention as Lucy’s putting the face of an angel but inside being the darkest evil. A new “NHS FEAR” unlocked 😢

As a health care provider & educator , I adopted the Quranic Sura : Whoever killed a soul, it should be considered as though he had killed all mankind; and that whoever saved it should be regarded as though he had saved all mankind. Sua5 , Chapter 6 My sincere condolences & prayers to the babies families. And to Letby's parents.

I had a case of theft from patients (elderly), never the full amount, just part of their cash. We looked at off duty and found a common person on duty, a maid. How to get the evidence, consulted, limited choices couldn't use CCTv it would invade patients privacy, so in the end we let it been known that we had a suspect, and were trying to get proof. The individual left, anf the thefts stopped. Its hard to get evidence sometimes.

It's so sickening that they let this happened for 13 babies to do something. Should have investigated extensively after a few dead.

Death Penalty needed here.

Why the management, hasn't been charged with gross criminal neglect, resulting in the deaths of six children, is completely beyond me. Despite the grave concerns, being expressed by hospital consultants, and other whistle-blowers. The hospital administration still chose to ignore and sweep away, the anxieties being raised. The arrogance is mind-blowing.

If Lucy Letby had weighed 250 lbs and was covered in acne, I wonder if she'd had got so far? The fact that she has the face of an angel let her get away with it for so long I believe. What a devastating loss of innocent life.

RIP to those poor souls and condolences to their families. I'm assuming when working for the national health service over a long period of time the stress and impact can possibly make that person's views/value on life and death become different compared to the rest of us who do not work within this sector. It's so sad that even though there were red flags raised earlier on the only reason it was eventually investigated was because it was something that couldn't be hidden or kept silent forever. Before a lesson could be learnt , those who failed these children and their families should be made accountable and be punished. There should be regular mental health checks for all the staff within the NHS, you just don't know when a nurse/doctor could break and It could be your life in their hands.

On every Executive Team in the NHS hospitals, there is a Medical Director and Nurse Director, they are there to lead and support clinicians. Most of the managers at clinical level have a clinical background, ie departments are lead by a Consultant and a Lead Nurse. The question is why this strong group of professionals were unable to ensure that this case took so long. All neonatal units should consider CCTV, patient privacy is not the problem, but even then a lot of actions may be considered natural care. But in this case it might have helped prove the case against this individual earlier.

I'm afraid to say this is not unique to these managers, this hospital, this sector. The issue of poor management is pervasive and systemic throughout the public sector. It is fundamentally and critically broken.

The management above her is no less guilty. Other nurses and doctors came to them with claims about what she did, and they brushed them off instead of looking into them. If they had taken action sooner, then so many lives wouldn't have been lost.

Every suspicious death should be inspected further to avoid the next one.

We need capital punishment for these criminals.

The one thing hospitals are afraid of is lawsuits.

Very young, very old and the disabled who trust with unconditional love and ARE God's light and example for us all! My daughter was abused this year at a hospital where I once worked and I stupidly really felt that the hospital would want to find the truth and prevent it from happening again. I was clear about not seeking monetary compensation (as if any amount could!). Instead they closed the internal investigation, a mockery and a slap in the face. A response from two people that was complete fiction and decades of my daughter's life that proves it. While families are grieving or surviving, these corporate cold CEO's and shareholders are ONLY concerned with publicity. When will they learn PEOPLE want them to step up, not cover up!

Why have the executives in charge at the time not been held to account?

Hospital needs to be held accountable

I used to be a nurse,but I always cared very much about the poor ill patients ,adults /shlidren too/very eldrly. I was so glad to see the dear people get well /healthy enough to go home!.... I am 71 now /care for my ill husband ,who thank God is getting better again ...T.G.....after a long illness.

The management is responsible for this careless behaviour and ignoring the facts or issues raised by the doctors. NHS sucks ! Being a doctor myself, I am highly disappointed.

I would cautiously ask who signed these deaths off and how?

I’ve never understand how people can murder let alone innocent babies

My 4th son was born 21 weeks early the scariest birth ever. coming in at 1lb 8 ounces, they rushed him straight special care. I didn't get to hold him or even see him for 2 hours that felt like days. Now he's 6ft 4 and getting married. Anyone who works within the special baby unit must be devastated and feeling betrayed. How did it go unchecked for so long and if I see one comment about lessons will be learned, I will lose my shit

The NHS needs to stop policing itself!

I worked in the NHS for 4 years, and on a personal level one of my Managers was excellent. However, there has been instances when some Managers have autocractic attitudes and they think they have more authority and knowledge than nursing staff. One of my friends went off with stress because the Manager was making life difficult for some members of the staff. There were many incidents in the town where I lived which were questionable because of nursing staff being undermined and the Managers making awful decisions, and nursing staff were over ruled.

Why she did it isn't the only question. Why did it take so long for this to become public knowledge and how was she able to do what she did without anyone else present?

We will always ask, how did this happen?!!!!