Ludwig Reacts To I took Ninja's Masterclass and it ruined my life By Drew Gooden 

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No literally

legit lmao

frfr lol

Exactly. If Drew cared about making the stream as successful as possible, there are plenty of things he could have done differently, including using his own channel and branding, but the point was to test the advice and show how effective it would be

@@Keijo_ literally!!!

Exactly you nailed it! People are so ready to take shit out of context these days. The chat in this stream particularly. "Oh it's so cringe" um... Yeah? New streamers, in fact, any new content creator is cringe. Because you're getting practice being yourself on camera in front of people...? Like helllooooooooo. Not only that but yes exactly drew wanted to mimick a fresh person who knows jack shit right. Watches the master class. And attempts streaming. Because if a famous streamer makes a MASTER CLASS. People expect nuanced advice and a plan to potentially follow in order to start a small streaming career.

I also think it would be so ridiculous and awkward to have such high energy for…literally no one? Lmao like just screaming and acting hype for your not a single soul. Who does that lmao

@@heyyitsjude To be completely fair though. Streaming to 0 viewers is a reality when you start streaming even today. And you stream to nobody because you gotta get some practice and be comfortable having a camera rolling the whole time. However, I completely agree that having a high level of energy with 0 viewers is kind of ridiculous. But at the same time you can use that footage and edit it into a youtube video or use clips and post them on instagram and tiktok and youtube shorts.

Uh, yeah. He’s an entertainer. Entertaining is his job. He knows what he’s doing. But he literally said he just doesn’t want to, because it’s too involved.

@@Hey_Jamie I guess my comment was aimed at Ludwig's criticism how his streams weren't entertaining enough.

@@iwillcry Lud does have a point though, but I disagree with his overall take and the fact that he watched the whole video on stream. Streaming is a different skill set than making videos. Being entertaining for 5 hours is different than making a 30 minute video, even though often times that video could take days to make and edit.

@@ikaro555 yeah, if drew wanted to get as big as possible he could easily just join RU-vid streaming. He would immediately get hundreds of thousands of people interested. I think if he streamed on RU-vid he would enjoy it more because he would get lots of people active and chatting, which makes things way more fun for the streamer.

@@charlesbronson2926 yeah but this masterclass was about someone new to streaming without any outside promotion or influence so i guess thats what drew was going for

Because that’s his take on the video?

@@figlemon But like why though, Drew isn't talking about him. As well as the things Drew is saying isn't wrong. Ninja did a shitty thing with the masterclass. It's like when Logan Paul tried to pull the same shit with his how to become an influencer course. Is Lugwig really that BIG of a Ninja stan that even when Ninja is in the wrong and is being called out for it. He will still try and defend Ninja to the point of even insulting Drew for just stating facts? Or is there some another reason because the first reason just makes Lugwig lowkey look like a shitty person for defending an obviously shitty action lowkey.

Some ppl said he's a Ninja fanboy

@@figlemon bro is a die-hard ludwig simp

That's the whole point of Drew's video. He didn't use techniques he already knew, he used techniques taught by ninja because he's evaluating/using Ninja's courses.

@@iamhereblossom1588 EXACTLYYY

Yeah it's definitely intentionally. He's trying to act as if he's the lowest common denominator in terms of who might try this. Like the person who needs the most help from the series and what they'd get out of it.

Drew's stream was obviously bad on purpose bruh

Lud sounds like a Ninja stan. I get that you've met irl and you used to watch him but Lud's bias is palpable; nearly refuting every negative statement about Ninja in some way.

ikr? very strange

he probably felt called out or something just like xqc react

You all took it too seriously. It almost seems like this entire comment section aren't Ludwig viewers.

@@olojondro73 yeah because they are drew stans who are just going around youtube shitting on people not agreeing with him

ikr? like, where did that comment come from...?

Why are twitch streamers so fucking toxic

Lud was joking too lmfao

@@olojondro73 based on the rest of the reaction… was he though? was an asshole the whole way through

But he said it with such a serious tone. So I think it was because he didn't catch Drews sarcastic tone with that comment.

Big streamers don't realise how much luck and money is required to make anything out of a streaming career

@@burger9788 exactly this. the lucky ones are the ones least likely to acknowledge the luck involved

@@vitalyaloves yup Ludwig has always had a huge ego and it's only growing

Lud has talked about how luck is a big part of streaming but it’s not just luck, it’s how prepared you are when that big moment comes. There are tons of small streamers or youtubers that suddenly gets put in the spotlight and they don’t do anything to capitalise on this and disappears from the face of the earth

that's not the point of the video though? @@cuddleswithdogs

Exactly!!! This is all information real stream educators like Senpai Gaming and Katliente have covered. It just goes to show how out of touch Ninja is with the rest of the community. And I feel like Ludwig was defending Ninja too much out of the gate. If you ask your audience to go out and pay for an education from YOU. It better be well researched and well thought out.

@@jedimaster0667 Imagine if you’re friend made a video series that someone else was criticizing, no you don’t have to hold it up to the standard of God, but you’re not just gonna be like, “ya know what, this is utter trash.” Also, at no point in the stream did Ludwig tell anyone to take the class. Ludwigs take on the masterclass was also on the side of negativity, just not as far as Drew Gooden’s stance.

Brooke coming in with the SAVAGE burn!

Idk bro, I try not to publicly diss my personal connections, but that’s just me.

@@figlemon idk why watch a video that’s obviously going to be criticising him if you’re not open to it tbh. He could’ve chosen not to watch the video

Exactly!! The point of drew’s video is how ninja is basically advertising that if you just spend 200 dollars you can be as good as him, when that’s not at all true. Tried to give lud the benefit of the doubt but he completely missed the point!

Exactly! I think the only somewhat negative thing he said in that way was that Ninja isn't exactly the *best* streamer in his opinion, but they do just good enough to be iconic The literal point of the video is that Ninja made this class for people just starting out in the streaming game, but not taking into consideration what it's like to...start out in the streaming game, seemingly just doing the bare minimum for social media agents just off screen directing him on what new things he should do as a celebrity

i almost didnt recognize ludwig

yeah I used to watch a really small streamer like tops 20 viewers 10 chatters for a really good stream and they checked in with the regulars every stream

@@Sadie-rai every streamer with less than like 30 viewers and that streams consistently does that, especially the 5-15 range

I think Ludwig is saying that in the sense of rebutting Drew’s jokes about it. Like how Drew went, “how’s the dog, oh you don’t have one? Well get one.” But also, it’s very likely that Ludwig could just be too big and out of touch.

I kinda agree with that, i like drew just as much and that felt a bit of an overreaction

Bro atleast he is adding stuff to the video and adding insight. That is proven because even though Drew’s video was 37 mins, this video is 1 hour. Ludwig added of 23 mins of content to the video. Second, there are many other streamers like Xqc that react to content without saying anything, sometimes they aren’t even present in the stream and are just playing the video to fill. Also, Ludwig didn’t post his reaction, this youtube channel did so it’s not like he’s milking views off of someone else’s content. Finally, have you watched any of Ludwig’s videos? He actually doesn’t clickbait that often, look at his recent videos and tell me if the title of his videos are clickbait. Yeah there might be slight exaggerations in the title but they definitely aren’t enough to be labled as clickbait. I’m not saying Ludwig is right for reacting to this video and that it’s ok (In fact I think he is slightly in the wrong), I’m just saying that he probably did it the best possible way. P.S. I do not mean to belittle you with this reply I’m just trying to give perspective. Sorry if I offend you in any way. Also, I just noticed I wrote an essay in the middle of the night and am contemplating life decisions so goodnight.

@@cairo2684 you can't look at the length of the video to say how much content there was. If someone sat still at their desk for a few minutes, would you call that content? If you were to just cut this video to show lud's words it would be pretty boring. Ludwig streamed himself watching drew's video, showing the whole video, and got donations and channel memberships while doing so. He still profitted off of it even if he didn't post the highlights to youtube himself. But that's just it, the highlights that big react streamers post on their own channels are usually edited to show themselves contributing and satisfying "fair use". It's not fair use when they stream the whole video, that's just theft.

@@charlesbronson2926 daph39 has watched so many of Drew's videos that it became a little infuriating bc it feels like she has no content. Hasan also did this and left the video on and left 🤦‍♀️ I don't watch streamers a lot but knowing that a lot of them stream this way is annoying asf they don't have content so they watch other people's content and sit there and make comments

@@chocoberry6501 preach! I had to tell RU-vid to stop recommending her videos, and fan edits

That was insane, yeah. "let's follow the course and see if it's good or bad" -nah man, you shouldn't have just followed the course lol, big mistake, btw why are you saying the course is bad when you didn't do 84 things outside the course that a beginner wouldn't know?

@@doolioart3314 yup, I mean I get he was trying to entertain but it was just so unnecessary to disrespect Drew out of nowhere in front of his chat, idk if he's kidding or they're friends but it's pretty lame to just shit talk the guy he's using for content just to seem smart to his audience.

@@666tris That seems like vested interest to me, I don't think it's possible to miss Drew's entire point.

@@doolioart3314 while that is true, not everyone will do that especially ninja's idiot kid stans which a lot of his audience are and might get tricked by that. drew even pointed it out that he got more knowledge by searching in google than what ninja said in his overpriced masterclass. his point is also that is he is acting like a person who doesnt have atleast single idea how to stream but is a huge fan of ninja and want to be successful in streaming like ninja. thats why he bought his masterclass, which the only thing he will follow since again he doesnt know how unlike ninja who is supposedly going to teach him. also ninja even taught something about 'internet-lingo' like that matters more than literally any other things (streamdeck, make a stream overlay, etc.)

@@BaldwinIV_of_Jerusalem I am confused, you seem to agree with me, but you start with "while that is true"... and then everything you wrote supports what I wrote:) Or am I missing something?

oh god, now scared to watch this video.

@@dravenfm I read the comments beforehand and I was scared too. I dont even watch Ludwig and I love drew, but it's really not that bad if you don't take Ludwig that seriously

Love Drew and like Ludwig, but Lud just completely missed the point of Drew's video

There’s a ton of RU-vidrs who do make a smooth transition to streaming. But that’s our survivorship bias kicking in. There’s plenty of creators who try for a week to a month, and then it just slowly fades out. People don’t remember those creators week transition to streaming, because why would they want to, just stick to the entertaining main channel edited videos. I think that in many cases it’s a fair assumption to think that the majority of RU-vidr’s transitioning to streaming is bad. There’s a ton of youtubers who can take their existing content and smoothly transition it to streaming and hold their fanbase. There’s also RU-vidrs who are really creative and can come up with new ideas that revolve around their demographics interest. But most of the time, the content doesn’t transition well to streaming, the quality isn’t as high as what’s expected from RU-vid videos, or that the RU-vidr isn’t accustomed to the high energy of streaming. In Gooden’s case, if he went back to streaming using his main stream, it’d be weird to watch a 5 hours unedited uncut analysis of someone else’s content like he did with the Ninja video. If he went out of his target demographic’s primary interests and did stuff like runescape gameplay, without creative ideas and high energy, only the people who are really big fans of Drew would stick around. They’d either be uninterested in the different content or they’d assume they could find the same content at a higher quality somewhere else. This is not a diss towards Drew, but it’s just how many RU-vidrs fail the transition, and I used his relatively short streaming experience as an example.

@@figlemon “There’s a ton of RU-vidrs who do make a smooth transition to streaming.” But…but we’re in agreement then! I never claimed every RU-vidr is successful on stream…Lud made what I considered to be a reductive blanket statement that discounted that significant “ton” you mentioned. I have no “survivorship bias” because of all the creators I consistently watch on RU-vid, those that do stream have successful streams…even the very inconsistent ones. I am simply not familiar with said bad streamers you or he is referencing. That doesn’t mean they don’t exist by any means, but I don’t have a bias for the “survivors” because I haven’t seen any real failures? And they don’t always do streams based on things pertaining to their normal YT content, sometimes it’s very far removed from their normal content but many fans find it entertaining to watch that person regardless of platform! That being said, what Drew did wasn’t experiment to see if he could transition to streaming successfully as an already successful RU-vidr. He created an account not connected to his brand, to emulate how it would be for a regular person (who doesn’t already have a leg up) to follow Ninja’s instructions. I am fairly positive Drew would have a successful streaming career, much like majority of his friends on the platform, because he already has at minimum like 500 fans (I’m super lowballing…Danny Gonzales had like 2k ish a stream and they’re the same person) who would watch him do pretty much whatever he wants to and enjoy it.

@@heyyitsjude I don’t understand how someone can say 1 thing in the first part of their argument, say something completely different in the next, then have Gooden fans come out of the woodworks to like tbe comment 🤷‍♂️

@@figlemon 🤡🤡🤡

Yeah now leave out nick and noel and you‘re right.

I get the exact same people in my recommended every single time. And there will always be at least one lingerie girl, even though I follow literally no one in that genre

​@@Hey_Jamiesame, twitch loves putting body painters on my main page

Exactly, He totally missed the joke.

Sometimes you can click on a video and watch just a few seconds, and RU-vid will show a full red bar as if you’ve watched the whole thing.

There was a trick. If you skipped to the end and then rewatched it wouldn't show you mid-section ads. He has premium but the habit never stops i guess.

I think slandering is a bit harsh. He’s a big stream that relates far greater to Ninja than Drew Gooden, and is backing what he thinks. Ludwig was also on Gooden’s side, just not nearly as negative. The only time you could say Ludwig abhorrently “slanders” Gooden is when he calls Gooden’s 24 hour stream boring, which is a subjective take.

@@figlemon and when he called him dogshit at geoguesser out of no where which to me seemed so random and unnecessary especially when he had to point out he was talking about Drew and not the other guy.

@@Infurnace6699 Not to mention Drew saying his best state streak was 5 and then 6 was clearly just a joke.

@@Infurnace6699 I thought that was just a joke. Like how anyone playing a game and is insecure would just say everyone dogshit expect themselves. He only clarified so chat didn’t spam about how the other guy is super good and that Lud should watch him. Just a harmless joke.

@@markvieyra9950 okay so I don't watch Ludwig much so correct me if I'm wrong but from videos of him like reacting to tiktok and other things. He seems like the kind of guy to always laugh at his own jokes, I didn't hear no laugh, not even a chuckle or giggle, he didn't even SMILE, his face was DEAD SEROIUS. Now I'm pretty sure whenever someone makes a rude seeming joke about someone else, they usually show one of those signs to let people know they are joking especially someone outgoing and a social butterfly like Ludwig. Another thing as well is Ludwig seems like the type of guy to only make those kind of jokes about his friends. I have NEVER seen him until this video make fun(jokingly or not) of another content creator he doesn't know or is close to. So if you have proof or something that proves me wrong about anything I said, send them my way.

Yeah

On god he’s way more funny than lud and I like Ludwig a lot

Facts lol

Sometimes for me if I click on a video and leave after like 5sec, and search back to it later, it’ll show a full red bar at the bottom for whatever reason. Maybe that’s what happened

@@volleybrawl1 Lol, I just commented this same thing on someone else’s comment. That happens to me all the time.

this happens to me all the time....

It is just a joke, of course.

​@@monkeyprodigy161 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Thanks! It's kind of disappointing to watch this one

Thanks bro .

I think when it’s an analysis video like Drew’s, Ludwig feels as if he’s expected to watch as a critic. If it was a TikTok compilation, that’s when he’s just a dude.

@@figlemon 🤡🤡🤡

@@honeywellparts7541 ???

Yes, and it’s been done before Ludwig was born, and will be done far after.

Yeah, the difference is that even though Drew had a big following on RU-vid, clearly the fanbase didn’t want to transition due to a lack of time/platform issues, or that the stream didn’t keep their interest like the normal content Drew makes. Ludwig and his friends streams, while they may be uninteresting to you, clearly are entertaining to their target demographic and are very successful. You’re friend who wants to be a streamer is just living in a daydream tbh. It’s like 8 years olds who want to be Michael Jordan so they play once a month.

@@figlemon don’t get me wrong i think ludwig is still great and interesting and one of the best streamers, as are his friends. they’re certainly very creative as well. also to be clear about Drew’s streaming endeavors, no one in his fanbase knew he was doing this or else he’d probably get at least 1000 viewers first stream. his point was to show that truly starting out from square one and just simply gaming with ninja’s recommendations proved to be unfruitful. and yeah my friend is definitely dreaming a bit but more in a greed way. she really just wants to be rich and famous lol. i actually really haven’t been friends with her for a while now but that’s not worth explaining.

​@@figlemon Drew deliberately used a username that wouldn’t be easily traced back to him and didn’t promote the stream. He was trying to see whether he could grow following Ninja’s advice. If he’d told his viewers he was streaming then some would’ve obviously tuned in. He only had two people comment in chat the entire time he streamed because those were the only people who found him organically, and they weren’t his prior fans. Part of what Drew’s videos show is that it’s hard to even get discovered on Twitch. It doesn’t really matter how interesting your content is if nobody is getting recommended to give it a chance. If there’d been many people tuning in then clicking off it’d be another story, but hardly anyone clicked on to the stream for even a moment.

@@figlemon None of his fanbase knew Drew was streaming at the time. He did that on purpose to emulate somebody streaming for the first time without a fanbase.

@@figlemon nah people didn’t watch his stream bc he didn’t tell any of his fan base that he was going to stream on twitch... thought that was pretty obvious lmfao

But.. finding all that is very luck dependent? I understand that you don't think it's good advise but it's literally just the truth of the occupation. There's little you can actionable do that ensures getting a decent sized community, that community not being garbage and then finding corporate money. The best advice is just trying till you get lucky I don't see what you would want him to say

@@symawi312 I see where you're coming from. Many of the things we're discussing do have luck factors. But there are actionable things you can do. For one thing. You can't just stream. You have to have at least one other social media platform in addition to streaming. And if you are taking a shot in the dark with little plans. You have to be ready to keep doing what works. And if nothing works. Developing a plan based on what already works is important. Whether it's education or entertainment, comedy, DIY, etc. Having a posting schedule and practice and research is important. That's all actionable. While what Drew showed/summarized Ninja's class says, is the class says "just stream and be entertaining". Which is out of touch with how things work today. There is a luck factor. But you can't just turn on stream and put your hours in anymore. You can't just post to social media, text or video, once in a while or even everyday and expect results. But I agree that once you have your own unique plan for your unique approach. After that it's just consistency and luck.

I was thinking this when lud was talking about RU-vid streamers at the beginning

I think it many cases it’s a fair assumption to make. There’s a ton of youtubers who can take their existing content and smoothly transition it to streaming and hold their fanbase. There’s also RU-vidrs who are really creative and can come up with new ideas that revolve around their demographics interest. But most of the time, the content doesn’t transition well to streaming, the quality isn’t as high as what’s expected from RU-vid videos, or that the RU-vidr isn’t accustomed to the high energy of streaming. In Gooden’s case, if he went back to streaming using his main stream, it’d be weird to watch a 5 hours unedited uncut analysis of someone else’s content like he did with the Ninja video. If he went out of his target demographic’s primary interests and did stuff like runescape gameplay, without creative ideas and high energy, only the people who are really big fans of Drew would stick around. They’d either be uninterested in the different content or they’d assume they could find the same content at a higher quality somewhere else. This is not a diss towards Drew, but it’s just how many RU-vidrs fail the transition. Paymoneywubby’s content was able to make a smooth transition. He has a bright personality, can hold the energy, and come up with creative ideas to hold people’s attention.

it's a completely different thing in itself. YT you can be scripted as you can and it'll look good. when you stream there is no plan and no way to stay on one. you have to be completely reactive as everything is happening.

@FigLemon i’m seeing you in almost every reply dude jfc

Where's the joke?

Just like Ludwig said, I don't think twitch streamers can be teachers.He already gives his experience and tips through his streams.

smh fake fan

A million dollar question.

I do agree with you. I will however also say that you won't get ANYTHING out of commenting something rational. Ludwig is without a doubt that sorta person who only takes their own opinion, and don't seek knowledge or advice amongst others unless absolutely necessary, so I recommend that you only watch his content when you're interested in what he has to say.