2:53 Luke S story doesn't check out, just FYI. He says he just tried to walk up to him and instead Luke P body slammed him. The video does show Luke S running at Luke P.
greimalkin I agree.. I saw the videos twice and what Luke s says does not match the video footage.. you see him running towards Luke P .. he wasn’t walking as he was saying .. not a fan of both Lukes
Producers knew Hannah loves football players. Luke P played college football. Colton was ex-NFL player Tylor C was almost NFL player. He was drafted by the Baltimore Ravens, but left the sport due to a shoulder injury.
Hannah is so immature. She makes everything worse and feeds the drama. I mean, she seriously told this joker that she's concerned that he doesn't talk about her enough! LOL. She loves being the center of attention and having all of this drama swirling around her. And you can tell she still has a lot of issues about Colton rejecting her - you can see the resentment whenever his name is mentioned.
Wow, you're dumb. She's the friggin' Bachelorette, moron. She's supposed to be the center of attention. They're all fighting for a relationship with her. Obviously, she's gonna be the center of attention, dumbass. The issue is she was told Luke.S talks more about his business than he does about her, which makes it sound like he only came on the show to promote his business while stringing Hannah along, hence why she was bothered by that claim. Its the same way Hannah felt odd when Jed admitted that he initially came on the show to use this platform to boost his music, which made Hannah feel like Jed was stringing her along just to get his music off the ground. Its a totally logical reaction to the possibly discovery that 1 of the guys she likes could be a complete phony, you fxxking idiot. Also, Hannah doesn't have to be peachy keen when hearing Colton's name. They didn't totally sort everything out when that season ended, so ill feelings were still in the air, which is understandable. Just STFU, cause your entire comment just showcases your stupidity.
Carole Beth But I was saying he keeps lying. And nothing is weird about commenting... Lying about how he was saying that he thought luke s did come here for the right reason then telling Hannah that his here for his liquor business.
Devon Ava I’m sorry, yes, of course you are free to comment, I just didn’t understand it. There is no proof that Luke P is lying about Luke S’s reason for being there. How would he know about the tequila business if Luke hadn’t been talking about it? It looked to me like he didn’t deal well with once again the guys hanging up on him, and just said what the guys wanted to hear. He should have stuck to his guns and had the courage to tell the guys what he really thought about Luke S. He lied to them about that, but it seemed to be a reaction rather than a calculated, manipulating, thought out, response..
He jogs at him slowly lol, he never 'threw punches' And he's already stated he was doing that to complain to him not to throw him into the crowd. Also, bumping bodies is very normal, in rugby, which should have been the most cautious assumption made. Not assuming he needs to fucking body slam him.
Luke p. was standing in one spot Luce s. ran at him at full speed and got dip. That's not at tackle. Luke p didn't run at him at all. He was defending his self and if he didn't it would have been Luke s. tackling Luke p.!
He could had just pushed him . he didnt have to pick him up and slam him on the ground . It was unnecessary and he took the game too seriously. What if luke s broke his neck?
Really if a person is running at you your going to push them that don't make sense you could break your arm doing that. and the way he picked him up actually shows that he knew exactly how to dip a person right.
Who's more credible? The political consultant or the crossfit trainer? Luke S is clearly the smart one here so I believe he planned the whole thing to turn all the guys against Luke P. He probably attacked him knowing well Luke P would defend himself and even though Luke P apologised for overreaction (he could've just pushed him), he didn't accept his apologies and ran with them. He clearly had his buddies to back him up (Mike, Dustin, Dylan), but what don't we hear what Peter S, Connor, JPJ and others think? Production was pretty smart to show us only Luke S's buddies so we would think the entire house is against Luke P. For all we know the guys I previously mentioned defended him. Luke S is clearly not there for Hannah. There's ZERO chemistry between them and they don't even touch each other most of the time.
He looks like a guy that cant handle arguments and situations in an appropriate manner. He would react aggressively which would possibly scare you in the future.
I think thats its SUPER critical and cruel to go diagnosing someone that you dont even know ! reality tv is really good at portraying people in bad ways. And it obviously truly hurt his feelings, when they were calling him a sociopath. I dont think he is a liar or manipulative i think its Luke S i feel like he is purposely trying to play the victim to get sympathy and appear innocent. Luke P is possessive and aggressive (in sports ! which is a no brainer since he literally played football in college) but i don’t believe he is aggressive or a danger to hannah in anyway.
minhoisbæ jadyn Enjoy that black eye, sweetheart. Are you kidding me? Luke P is a lying piece of shit! He has spread rumors, conniving, physically attacking for no reason - at the very least, he is emotionally psychotic - he will lie probably throughout their whole relationship. I mean the look on his face at the rugby scene is psycho. If you cant see that, then I fear you will date someone violent and not see it in them (I hope that does not happen to you btw). But Luke P is volatile.
Tellurye well said. Its people like this that don't see obvious signs of jealousy , control , manipulation and violence , that end up in the hospital fighting for their life from a abusive partner. People are so naive including Hannah. How can she not see that Luke p is very very bad news
@@jakepaulpound-for-pound9418 Luke P, in less than 2 shows has lied, conived, attempted to manipulate, fabricated info, libel / slander and took physical aggression out on someone. So, my assessment is spot on. I take it, since you seem to think hes a great guy, you do the same activities? Pity.
Albert Pak Nobody seems to be concerned about Mike lying to Hannah about Cam to get him off the show because he was personally angry at Cam. Nobody is concerned that Luke S lied about what happened on the field.
I definitely think they are making him out to be worse than he really is. He is pretty nutty. But I mean...that’s the show. They edit people to fit into the shoes format. Like they’ve made him the villain cuz they need one! I’m sorta gettin tired of it. Change it up for one 😁😁😁 thanks.
Coconut ScienceGirl92 How do you suppose the producers edited Luke’s conversation with Hannah to make it look like he’s lying about Luke S? Because as the story plays out, it sure looks like he lied about telling Hannah the truth about Luke S being there for the right/wrong reason.
Raye Mayo They can mix words up so the sentences sound completely different from what was actually said. Past contestants have shared that and a video was made about it. The contestants have to sign a contract saying that they give production rights to show them in whatever light they want to for the story line. It is pretty horrible.
I haven’t seen this show at all, so I am talking out of my ass and I don’t admit to knowing anything. I am seeing all these tabloids about Luke P and I’m trying to see what’s going on. I’m watching all the “10 worst moments of Luke P” etc. videos and to be honest from what I see, I completely agree on the comment that they are purposely posing him the villain. I would t say he’s all cream and sugar, but he seems to actually care about (Hannah?) in the other videos I’ve watched, and actually could be a sweet guy. Still problematic, but he would have his sweet moments possibly more than the other contestants
There was a video that was released and Luke P was completely true about everything he said!!!!!!!! Luke S WAS coming after Luke P! But with all the editing they made Luke P come out as the villain. I don't like him for Hannah at all, but I don't think Luke P was completely wrong with this one.
i do sympathize with luke p a bit because like he said, the guys dont know what happened, and its easy to treat him as a target since he said he was failling in love with hannah so early on and is just aggressive in general. i dont like a group of people ganging up on one person.
It's obvious Luke P really cares about Hannah and is not on the show to get fame like almost all the other guys. I don't care if he acts and looks a little crazy, as long as he isn't physically or verbally abusive towards Hannah, it's fine. He's not there to make friends.
Alice Lindsay He’s obviously a manipulative liar.. He lied multiple times in this episode, was way to serious about a game, and in the past he was being controlling and just crazy in general. Plus there is no way in hell he actually fell in love with her in not even two days of knowing one another 🙄 Girl you are crazy if you believe anything he says
All I have seen from Luke P is confrontation. I have not heard Luke P open up to hannah about anything. At least the other guys have actual conversation with her.
Jim Johnson actually two guys Garrett and Peter didn’t mention Luke P and just the whole show so far in general.. He’s obviously a manipulative liar.. He lied multiple times in this episode, was way to serious about a game, and in the past he was being controlling and just crazy in general. Plus there is no way in hell he actually fell in love with her in not even two days of knowing one another 🙄
That's all ABC wants you too see so you think he's a villain. They're not showing their relationship or the fact they talk about family, religion, etc.
I don’t expect her to apologise to Luke S. He needs to go home. She tells him that she’s heard that he’s talking about his tequila brand and not talking about her and he completely ignores her. All he says is that he understands her concern and is there for her. No mention of whether he has been talking about his tequila brand. No mention of whether he has been talking about her. Just a smooth politician-style sound bite that glosses right past the issue and expects that the audience is dumb enough not to notice. He has no respect for Hannah to think she’s dumb enough not to notice.
I watched the footage many times. Luke S was running towards Luke P and tried to punch him. Luke P reacted and throw him down on the ground. How did Luke P know about Luke S's tequila brand if he didn't hear it from Luke S himself? It's pretty obvious he isn't into Hannah and Hannah isn't into him. At the end, I don't think Luke P lied. He said Luke S talked to Luke P and asked him to speak on his behalf. There was a scene they didn't show us because they're trying to make Luke seem like a villain for ratings.
Alexis V you are so blinded by how good looking he is. WAKE UP. I don’t know how there’s women including you that support that behavior and all the other red flags
Let's be honest. Luke S wouldn't have been able to pick him up and I think he knows that so I'm pretty sure he was not going to. Luke P straight up lied about what actually happened too. Oml
sarah kelly RIGHT! She should’ve focus all her time and conversations with him on fixing him! I get she’s falling for him hard, but I honestly think that’s just because he gives her so much attention and she’s flattered by that. I haven’t really seen him actually tell her why he’s in love with her, or open up about himself. All they do is make out, and when they have talked, it’s just been about the drama he’s been causing. I’m already excited for this at the Men Tell All!
If anyone still says that Luke P doesn't deserve all this hate he's getting, especially after this episode, then it's obvious they're just enamored by his looks. This man is not a good guy. He's manipulative, overly aggressive, possessive, full of himself, and thinks this show is nothing more but a competition and being the one Hannah picks in the end means he wins. This guy showed red flags from the very beginning but this episode put the final nail in his coffen. He's not staying for much longer, especially when he keeps acting like a complete fucking sociopath. You can't defend this guy anymore. So stop falling for this guy just because he's 'cute' or 'good-looking'.
Luke p. was standing in one spot Luce s. ran at him at full speed and got dip. That's not at tackle. Luke p didn't run at him at all. He was defending his self and if he didn't it would have been Luke s. tackling Luke p.!
Markesha Gayfield While defending himself against the guy who is way smaller than him. In my opinion Luke S was running toward the game night at Luke P. Even if he was running toward Luke P, Luke P Could’ve easily just pushed him out of the way. Luke P was pissed the whole time because Hannah was giving attention to the other guys. So many red flags. Did you see the jealous looks on his face?! Wake up!
Dylan Cashwell, well said!! Heś everything you stated and so many of the other guys see it, I don´t understand how Hannah can´t sense it?? I sensed it from day one, just from his intro speech on the first episode. Indeed Luke P seems like a sociopath. And, I don´t even find him that good looking as others rave about. He´s actually become creepy
I honestly don’t see the problem with Luke P. He is starting to fall in love with her. He feels threatened by other guys. To me it looked like Luke S. was kinda charging after Luke P then Luke P. body slammed him. Also, it’s rugby... an aggressive game. Luke P. apologized too. I don’t see this as enough information to call Luke P. a sociopath.
Obviously we all know how aggressive rugby is, but to me personally it didn’t look like Luke S. was charging at him, and if he tackled him that would’ve been fine, but I think his head was just so in the game that he wasn’t really thinking about how he was winning, he was just doing whatever it took. it was kinda creepy how narrow visioned he was. And to me when he apologized personally I think it was just so that Hannah thinks that he’s trying to be better, but idk what to make of that. The other thing in this episode that was frustrating to watch, was when he told Luke S. that he didn’t think he was actually there for the wrong reasons, and that he would tell Hannah the truth, and then he goes and straight up does the EXACT OPPOSITE! Anyways...I wouldn’t call him a sociopath either, but...he kinda scares me lol
Holly Golightly I don’t find him possessive. I find him more protective like all boyfriends should be like, I hope. He doesn’t like her kissing and flirting with the other guys. Understandable. Because it’s only a tv show that’s centered around drama, I find it understandable that they only show the guy who acts on his feelings. Most of the other guys most likely don’t like sharing their girl either.
Nikki Fonseca I understand. The tv can twist things especially a reality drama show. You can’t have a reality show without the drama. The clip of the big Luke P. slamming Luke S. on the ground was confusing especially because we can barely see it out of the corner of the screen. All of it seems sketchy anyway. Luke S. just seems to me the creepier one. I don’t really have a reasoning.
If Luke P was lying about Luke S focusing on his tequila brand, then why didn’t Luke S deny it? He was caught in the spotlight and couldn’t deny Luke P’s accusation.
@@gdesiree29 He did NOT. He said he was for her but never denied he had or was planning to have a tequila brand and talked about it. How else did Luke P know about his tequila brand?
Yes. As far as the footage shows all Luke S said about the accusation that he was talking about his tequila brand and not talking about Hannah was that he understood her concern about that. He never said that he hadn’t been talking about his tequila brand. He never said that he had been talking about her. He just glossed over it (very reminiscent of the political interview style where the actual topic is not addressed and they just hope the audience doesn’t notice). Maybe he did say something and it was edited out. But based on the footage which is all we have it seems like he didn’t. Hannah knows what was said. In her position if someone didn’t address the direct issue and just said they understood my concern, I’d be sending them home. It’s double talk and it has no place in a relationship. I wish it didn’t even exist in politics to be frank.
Luke P. is a walking, talking red flag. To me this shows that having a lead this young causes red flags to be ignored. Luke P. is not the one or anything close to that. He's got issues but Hannah is ignoring it because of her lustful feelings. Once you've grown and seen things in your life guys like Luke P. stick out like a sore thumb. You then know to ignore guys like him. Hannah hasn't reached that point yet.
Luke p. was standing in one spot Luce s. ran at him at full speed and got dip. That's not at tackle. Luke p didn't run at him at all. He was defending his self and if he didn't it would have been Luke s. tackling Luke p.!
Idk who would still like Luke p. Hes too aggressive and possessive. Hey, I like a strong man who would fight for me too but this is going overboard and its getting creepy to me. I have seen the spoilers and hes not even the guy she chooses so sorry for those who like Luke p lol
He's never lied to Hannah. The only lie we know so far is to the guys, in which he told them he was going to speak on Luke S's behalf and take back what he said and he ended up not doing it. He doesn't owe anything to those assholes who are always attacking him and calling him psychopath.
I am sorry, what the problem or conversation between 2 men has. I will say goodbye to both of you because you guys are not here for the right reasons and both of you wasted my time.
@@tikitorchgamin1842 nah you obviously need to learn what the characteristics of socio/psychopaths are. He's manipulative. Everything that he said was trying to turn himself into the victim when majority of the guys have a problem with him. If 9/10 people see the same issue with a person it's usually for a reason. You're just easily impressionable and that's the type of person psycho/sociopaths usually target. Look into Charles Manson. He has tons of men and women who followed him blindly trusting every word he said, and he was so manipulative he got them to murder for him lmao. I'm not saying this guy's that sinister, but if he's claiming to love this girl after a few days and then suddenly turning at emotion off and into anger over the slightest things.... that's a dangerous combination.
@@jadadoesntexist You know there is a thing called. "Respecting someone's opinion" I was giving my opinion no need to right a essay while your at it :/
@@tikitorchgamin1842 see..this is the problem with the world. When someone is given logic in response to a statement they instantly want to claim their opinion isn't being respected. Reading is good for you by the way. So is spelling.
Jim Johnson Luke P is obviously a manipulative liar.. He lied multiple times in this episode, was way to serious about a game, and in the past he was being controlling and just crazy in general. Plus there is no way in hell he actually fell in love with her in not even two days of knowing one another 🙄
Luke P scares me! I don't think Hannah should pick him at the end of all this! But, she is so into wild men and that is her source of attraction to Luke P sadly!
I know that for a fact that, women should complain to men, not the other way around. America has disgraced manhood. Americans need to give back the role of men in this nation.
Karina D, you don't have to be rude to me. This is a social platform, meaning you can say your view or prospective on how you view issues. Don't be disrespectful, don't attack me instead comment on the video.
He is a liar. He hit him out of nowhere. He is psycho and violet and would be with her too. Look at his eyes. He told her he loved her in 2 hours of the first night. PLEASE send him home.
what's to say he won't get physically aggressive like this towards hannah if they do get married. this guy seems like a domestic abuser. so so many things going wrong
Luke P is an immature silent but deadly hot head goof. I would imagine it is the show that wants the bachelor/bachelorette to keep on the drama queens and kings that should go. I can't imagine them being dumb enough not to see it or listen to the majority of the complaints, so I think they are told to try keep them on and not boot them out unless they see it for their own eyes more proof as it brings ratings. It happens every show and every show they keep them until near the end to help ratings. Drama brings an audience too. Hannah must think physical pain in her show will bring a rough painful sports fans to watch. I think she is going about getting ratings the wrong way. Crock tears, she knew someone would get hurt. We all did.
