LUNA is an absolute failure, too little too late and off the charts failing beyond shadow of a doubt, give it up is what I say, sadly, it does sound great and sound is the key but...sorry, it seems no one wants to bother and its behind in so many ways that it cripples your workflow...soudns great but simply SUX a55
@@mikehunt576 Horses for courses. Workflows are specifically personal. With an Apollo interface, it works beautifully for me. The interface console software has been integrated into Luna; a big plus too.
I would be evidence to the contrary. As a professional mixer, I left that nonsense behind willingly and happily. I think UA has totally lost the narrative, making an ancient, inefficient DAW, a textbook definition of a contradiction.
@@gregormarini They made a big mistake assuming it would be easy. I can’t think of a more complex piece of software than a modern DAW. I agree about the “analog feel” nonsense. We’ve had endless options to impart an analog sound on our digital recordings for years. UA seems to think it’s about pictures of old gear. It’s incredibly amateurish.
I have been using Luna with my Apollo interface for about a year and half now and I think it's really intuitive. I just subscribed - look forward for more Luna videos in the future!
A lot of the plug-ins included in the pro version (the EQ, Compressor, Reverb, Tape Echo and Oxide, along with some kind of channel strip) came bundled with my new UA Volt interface. So that'll save me $200 for now. This looks like an easier and more intuitive DAW to learn than the old version of Samplitude I've been procrastinating on trying to teach myself (with not a lot of online resources to help). The console layout allows you to more easily keep track of the signal path, which I like.
I have the volt interface also I'm a avid protools user ( pun intended)😂 and I think I'm going to use Luna for tracking and PT for mixing but I really wanna see if tracking is seamless for me and to see if Luna is a CPU hog!!!!
This was wonderful, thanks! I've been wanting to dive into Luna for some time but wasn't quite ready to jump into yet another DAW to learn. But I think you've made it clear that Luna is really quite intuitive, especially for those of us who cut our teeth on analogue hardware. And also that its emulations are of high quality. As you've explained it, the workflow provided by Luna does seem quite intuitive, etc., so I'm definitely going to dive in. Cheers!
Excellent review - really enjoyed your perspective. I've been a Luna user for almost a year now and you nailed it. Big change coming from years of Logic but a greatly appreciated change. Luna is great and can only get better! Cheers!
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you can use a fader plugins like izotope relay to ride the volume, last on insert chain, i don't automate the DAW fader cuz i like to have master level control even after i automate. hope this is useful to some.
How is the drum programming? Is there a drum sequencer? What about the piano roll? Scale highlighting (piano keys included. Not just the grid)? Chord function? Audio recording? Clip fading? Cross fading? Clip gain? Any pro microphone options to switch between microphones? Perhaps a Rode NT1, MXL770, Shure SM7B for example . That would be dope. Midi notes: velocity, volume etcetera?
I’m still getting used to Luna and I use it for tracking instruments like drums, voice, guitar, bass and synth. I still use Ableton for my last edits because I’m still learning it and Ableton is easier for me. So drum programming? Not that I’m aware of but if your recording synths , MPC etc it’s amazing because you can put it through amazing unison channel strips, compressors etc. there is some uad plugins like moog, some synths etc but I’m not sure it is the same like Ableton. Cross fading absolutely. And if you get a sphere microphone you get a tonne of microphones such as the ones you’ve mentioned. You will need an Apollo interface, possibly a satelite, mac and sphere mic plus a couple of thousand dollars on plugins. There is sales throughout the year and bundles that make it cheaper. It’s an expensive route but it’s the best in regards to accessing the best channel strips, amps, and compressors, reverbs, delays etc. it’s a pain in the neck regards DSP. So I do recommend getting an Apollo 6 to 8p. Very least a quad. I have a quad and need to get a 8p soon for extra channels and DSP. But you can Daisy chain devices. It’s more of an audio centric system instead of midi. If I’m wrong anyone please correct me but that’s how I understand it thus far
Testing on Windows (in Core audio mode, I dont have Apollo etc). For me its great for analog color, nothing more. Did single bus for vox and put chorus and it already made bus with noticible latency). Have no clue how to fix it
I love this daw, but I returned to pro tools because my system was having some bugs with Luna, such as outsync automations, 3rd part of plugins with problems... I'll wait a little longer for these issues to be resolved and then I'll definitely use it this Daw in the future. (Macbook M3).
Thanks for your comment. So far, I haven't run into any problems 🙂 You've probably already spotted it, but just in case, there's a feedback option in the top right corner of Luna where you can report any bugs.
its basically the API Mac Version of Reasons Studio...which is SSL and you get more mixing tools on the SSL Channels in Reasons opposed to Luna....Luna is OK...but Reasons Smokes it
One thing that really bugs me is the very short fader throws in the mixer. Looks just like Studio One version 6 that I did not upgrade to because of that reason. Im still recording with Studio One version 3 because of that and other things that they eliminated or changed.
Hey, thanks for your comment. There are two options for the height of the faders. If you go to the top of the box that the faders are in, you can drag them up to make them longer. I hope this helps.
@@mixinglessonsreally?! That surprises me. I’ve always only used Logic and assume all DAWs would have that feature. I am looking forward to exploring Luna a little more. Sometime I think it may be useful to write and record in logic and then Mix in Luna. Knowing me I may be over complicating things! (Who me?! 😂) And why would I want to do that you ask? Because sometimes I think it’s important to just go, the track is finished, time to start mixing. I have a tendency to want to keep fiddling with a song, seeing what parts I’ve hidden that I may want to still use, tinker with a performance etc. It drives my producer nuts! As he says, at some point you have to just say t yes song is written, the parts are recorded and it’s time to finalise your mix. Hence moving over to a different DAW to mix. 🤷🏻♂️
It's definitely useful to have some method for drawing a line under each stage of the process so that you can shift your focus to the next step. And if switching between DAWs helps you do that, then that's a great solution. I think Logic is ideal for writing and composition, whilst the sound and signal flow in Luna is fantastic for mixing, so it makes a lot of sense! 🙂
I see almost nothing about Luna that would appeal to me. I started my career in the mid 70s using the best analog gear available, and yet have zero desire to go back there. I don’t know a single professional mixer who is nostalgic for the hulking inefficiency of those days. The direction of the marketplace is (finally!) dictated by production needs. I can’t imagine what makes UA think the opposite. Maybe 20 years ago this would be a viable product. Today, it gives off strong boondoggle vibes. The great, big image-perfect EQs and compressors and VU meters are an absolutely nuts approach to mixing on a display. I can’t imagine how much screen real estate most of my work would require with LUNA. Vast arrays of knobs and switches I am not using is an odd concept to say the least.
I think of bookmarks as like saving a snapshot of the mix at a particular moment to recall later. Whereas I think of versions as something you're continuing to work on, which will autosave and have an undo history. So you could work on different versions of the mix, and then within each version, you could have bookmarks which give you a snapshot of the mix at a particular moment.
I'm running an M1 Pro chip, not sure what the GPU is but it's surely good enough NOT to be getting graphics lagging, especially but not exclusively on all my third party plugins. Can anyone weigh in? Anyone experienced the same issue? It's borderline unbearable 😂
I've not experienced any issues like this. I'm running Luna on one of the previous generation of Macs that used Intel processors, and I haven't had any problems. Hopefully someone can offer some suggestions.
Reason and Luna. The only DAW's that feels like an actual mixing desk/music studio, with built in full channel strips without having to open plugin windows. LUNA doesn't come with the Pultec suite though😊. Not even in the pro version. It's a seperate purchase. At least when I got it some months ago.
Thanks for your comment. I really like having the channel strip extension as part of the mix window. As you say, it feels like a mixing desk. I bought the Pro Bundle a couple of weeks ago, and I'm happy to say that it included the Pultec Passive EQ Collection. 😊
You did a great job explaining how Luna works! Ive been going back and fourth from Logic and Luna and can't really decide which to stick to. Luna sounds amazing and its mixer workflow is great. Im leaning towards making this my primary daw for recording and mixing. Do you think your going to choose Luna over Protools?
Thank you very much. 🙂 I've always really liked Logic, especially the virtual instruments. I've been really impressed with Luna so far. I'll probably be switching between Pro Tools and Luna for a while, but I'm definitely moving towards making Luna my permanent DAW.
@@mixinglessons I disagree, Luna is a waste of space, sonically mediocre, if you hear something in LUNA that you thin you dont your daw check the BIT rate , try 48khz instead of 44.1khz, luna is 48khz but dont let LUNA fool you with just that, it stinks as a DAW, you have better results with a single Acustica audio plugin on the master bus then adding LUNA to your applications folder to waste space,
Paid Pro version is pretty much mandatory for serious analog style API workflow You can't buy the NEVE summing without UAD hardware I own all the DAWs and I love LUNA
Hi. Nice video. Love it. I'm new using Luna. Recently I imported a session of 40 tracks in wave format. But my session is jumping within bars when played in LUNA. What do you think it may be? I also noticed you are using core audio connection like me. I have apogee symphony mk 2. Is there a setting in witch I won't have this issue in Luna?Thank you
Hey, this isn't something that I've experienced in Luna, I'm afraid. But I'd definitely recommend using your Apogee hardware to see if that improves things.
@@mixinglessons well I have been using apogee my whole life. I don't know if I need to change any settings for Luna different the I have it for logic. Do you think I should do that? Thank you
@@ian20n Hey, I'd recommend contacting UA to see if this is a known issue, and hopefully they will be able to advise you on the best settings to resolve this.
You know I always have this doubt about Luna and Unison. I have a bunch of UAD plugins including all LUNA extensions, I am used to just drop API Vision channel strips for all my channels. At the same time, if I want to record something externally, I can use the API 212L unison preamp, but after it, the signal faces the API Vision channel strip, and that plugin has integrated the 212L as well, it doesn't have a label in the extension, but I assume that because the extension is supposed to be the exact API Vision channel strip VST, and it has it there. I guess my question is, what's the point on recording an instrument through unison for the signal to apparently go in to the 212L once more because of the strip? Does this makes sense at all?
Hey, thanks for your question. Something to note is that, when you use the API vision channel strip as an extension, it's not going through the 212L preamp. Instead, there's a line amp in its place. So you would need to use the 212L as you record. However, if you use the API Vision channel strip as a plugin rather than as an extension, you do indeed have the 212L preamp. So there are essentially different workflows to get to a similar point depending on the way that you like to work. I hope that clears things up. 🙂
Hi , great video! Would you be able to share how you have routed your audio to record your screen with audio for this video? Do you have an apollo interface? Thank you.
Yes, certainly - to record and hear what you can see happening in my videos, I record my screen using Quick Time Player to record the footage, and I have the audio output from this system going into an audio interface which is connected to another computer. I also have a mic connected to that interface to record my voice. I then bounce the audio out of that DAW and sync it up with the screen recording in iMovie. And no, I don't have an Apollo. I hope that helps! 😊
Oh Wow, that makes total sense! Which Luna could make it a bit more easier. In other DAWs there is no need to connect to an interface into another computer! But that is a great way to do it for sure! Thanks for your reply and keep up with these good videos :)@@mixinglessons
No external plugins like Waves and all? would love to check this out. Been hearing of Luna for a while but never really got to look into it. I'm a Protools user by the way. Great Video man!!!!
It seems you are showing the Vision API console and it's not in Luna pro Bundle? I had to buy the console separate in order to get the view you are showing.Please clear up for me. Thanks
