Luo [of Kenya] vs Jonam [of Uganda] Language Comparison 

Thank you so much. Much love❤️

So Glad to hear this My In-laws from Mt. Kenya. Truth is what Uhuru Kenyatta did for this Country will go down into History. If many others put Politics aside and learn the lessons you did between the Myths of Kikuyu - Luo Friendship, that is a Diamond in our Lives.

🤣🤣 ur very funny man,. What did uhuru do

​@@johnolang I guess the 'handshake' and the concept behind the subsequent _building bridges_ initiative. He and Raila were invited to speak about it at the US national prayer breakfast. I think he tried to reverse the division that had been brought about in his father's regime, by Moi (given that the Kikuyu and Luo were his biggest political threats) and himself along with others. I think the cold war between USSR and the west played a role. It was very active in Africa. A lot of propaganda had been planted over decades, even oaths taken. The name Raila could not be uttered on the mountain. Yet he got 700,000+ votes from the region this time and could have gone neck - neck with Ruto had he started campaigning even half as early as he did. Anyone can say they're a Raila supporter without any backlash. Not enough progress, but that's a good beginning. Uhuru's family walked the talk too, with a Luo daughter in law. Ruto unfortunately did a lot of damage because he camped there for 5 years saying things like "watu wa kung'oa reli", introducing the idea of Raila as anti-Christ (lol) etc

@@panafrican.nation I get u sir, may the spirit of unity prevail in our nation

Apwoyo matek Opiyo. I will come back to Gulu. Kindly share my videos with your friends and family. I need more luos here.

I'm oyango Fredrick from Nairobi proud to be luo

And the luo love you too Kasee😉😉

You're our friends. Take it to the bank lol 😂😂🤣. Our brothers and sisters

@@judithodwar7112 Sure we are in it together

You are our friends 💯

We love you too our kamba brother from makueni

It's surprising how close the languages despite the tribes being geographically apart

Very beautiful

Unapologetic and proud ? Omera 🤣

Have you compared the Alur?. They are closest to Luos than all our Ugandan cousins

Hahaha unapologetic and proud😂😂

Yes, Gilbert, I have compared the Alur. check out for the videos

Great points for those studying this language and its peoples!

Such an amazing insight. I didn't really know that there's a difference between "dhot ot" and "thigo". I thought they were two different words with the same meaning

Yes! We say Ching/chinga in ugenya

Thigo is merely a shutter. The frame not included. It was wicker door made from a pliable plant called "Olando". It was tied with a rope to the last wall post before the opening (dhot, dho ot)on either side in the evening. In the day it was untied and rested on one of the walls. In other words thigo was mobile not fastened to any frame. In my part of Luoland, finger is " lith lwedo". Toe is " lith tieli". Lwedo is simply ✋.

Dhakona is broken Luo. Husband is "dichuo", "jaot, wuon par". My grandmother "Dana".

Iron roofed house is " od opanga".

Well, let's hope someone will actually go for it

What about the Bible in Luo? I wonder if they have translated Bibles in Uganda.

More like a standardised written language.

this is very good idea bro, Im Luo man from mara Tanzania

Yeah, surprisingly so. It was one of the best language interviews I've had

My grandmother originally hails from there, she is Jonam, unfortunately, I didn't get the chance to meet her

Nooo...all our words are theirs😅😅😅we came from those areas

Say, all our words are theirs. We came from there not the other round. 🙂🙂🙂

The lady is not very good at speakinJonam, but all the words are similar just that she doesn't know some of them. 95% are similar. Next time try to interview two people.

Thanks Michael, much love❤️. On this occassion we love you and we’re telling it to you straight 😅

That's one reason they might not rule Kenya, so sad honest is feared in Kenya. When you are honest people look like you're from Jupiter. That's why Kenyans say Hii ni Kenya to meaning no justice will be done hope for change only Luos can do that.

So you are not Luo but you know the original and copy versions of Luo? Crazy

@@sylusouma6231 I have encountered many Kenyans from other communities and foreigners who speak better Luo than I do.

@@michaelopere5424 if you learn some semantics and morphology, you will realize that there is nothing like a "correct" form of a language. What exists are dialects that are brought by environmental factors. A Dr taught me this in UoN.

Thank you Dan. Surprisingly luos are scattered allover East Africa

Hello man of God, Yeah, surprisingly we have so much in common and, yes, you'll feel at home among the luo of Kenya 😊

hello servant of God. my opinion is that we are one African family only tht we were splited and forced to have these artificial boundaries by colonialists so tht they could easily steal our resources and they went to extent of destroying our culture and identity bt our God is great we are back to retrace our route and fix our ancient unity

Excellent observation

Yeah, seems like 5 was the reference point

@@KPtravels001 and we lost Abi+dek which I later on learned is now Aboro.

In Siaya County ching (hand), lwedo (finger)

This is awesome 👍

Interesting

😅🤣🤣🤣 Please don`t read too much into stimulants and pokers

@@Infinity74856 Chiega + Chuora (very interesting, Kenyan Luos became more direct after Sudan)

@@Infinity74856 Actually I've been corrected- arousers +pokers!

Let me just read the comments here😊. Sina maoni

Thank you so much Newton. It's fulfilling knowing how close we are to other tribes geographically away from us. I got so excited 😊. Thanks for the subscription and kindly share with your friends. Let's get all possible luos on board. Reunion starts with having the knowledge

Wow this is close. Jogo wacho mana dholuo

Erokamano nyamera nyar odhus winam😀. I never knew too until last year(2022). And that's why I'm motivated to do this. I realized how ignorant were about luo history and knowledge. The schools lied to us. They didn't teach us true history. And that's why I take it as my responsibility to help educate the luo. Kindly subscribe and share my videos with your friends and family. The more luos we have here the better . Erokamano maduong' Nya kisumo

Apwoyo Okidi. Kindly share my videos with friends and family. Let’s reach as many luos as possible

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Hahahaha she did well. Chunye yom😀😀. Thanks for the correction. Though I think "alufu" and "mabati" are used more often. But I agree that "gana" and "opanga" are the ideal luo words

I think our language is dying slowly, we are losing some luo words to Swahili/English words eg opanga to mabati. And I'm worried that in the next 50yrs it'll be a fully eroded language. Our luo scholars should not let this happen please, come up with a Dholuo dictionary to guide the future generations.

I am not sure if “gana” and “opanga” are really dho luo words rather kishwahili and bantu adaptations…think about igana from the kikuyu and panga=metal=mabati. I am from Nairobi, Kenya born in Uganda, and my father drwas his origins from Kasipul.

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Gloria's skin aside😉😉, could you give me an instance of a word that's pronounced differently between johomabay and Josiaya?

Faiza you are very right, the janam dholuo is the same as dholuo spoken in Siaya. An example dipo in Siaya the other luos ie central and South Nyanza say laro . There are quite a number Ndalo - puodho Odins - bando Osirgoho- chieth gweno Akut - aluro - the bird

@@TheNyahero those luo you are reffering to all originate from siaya. So whenbyou say they are different i am left perplex. The best i know is that all those wordings from central and southern also exist in siaya people. I think its just the choice of wordings to use

@@mjukuuwakwetu356 you are right but the that choosing of words is what make the difference example in Central Nyanza where I was brought up we call it dhoot while in my second home in Siaya we commonly call it thigo and this applies to many uncounted words but nonetheless all are dholuo

South Nyanza, Gem and Kisumu pronounce words in a similar manner. Ugenya, Alego and Imbo not only pronounce words very differently from the group mentioned above, but they are also different from themselves.

Yes. Kenya luo&Tz luo is same tribe. So everything is 100% same across the border

Luo ke is thoroughly rich, if brought that to this present conversation would bring total confusing. For aluori would mean: I fear you I give you respect I surround you Remember Luo ke & Tz migrated from different clans of luos collecting cultures and dialect from the same most of which they have kept, and use interchangeablelly eg dho ot= thigo, aora=kulo . The northern luos had their various clans staying pure ice in ug and SS. But all the same Luo is one apart from little influence. Let's continue

@@okumuokelo4494 do you think the farther a group is from Bahr El Ghazal the more dilute the language is due to influence of the tribes they meet along the way?

@@KPtravels001 all Luos have borrowed from their neighbors. That is why, for example, we have an easier time understanding Jonam than Acholi. However, Luo's from our point of origin have neighbors that speak Languages that are related to Luo. The borrowing stays within closely related Nilotic family. On the other hand, Luos who neighbor Bantus will borrow from their Bantu neighbors causing the language to drift further from its Nilotic origins. That is why Kenyan Luos from south nyanza wills say "Bando" for maize from "Chibando" in Kisii and "Marieba" for Cassava, also from Kisii.

@@vowuor oooh Jesus!!! It's starting to make more sense now😂

Thank you. The journey of a thousand miles has started already

Thank you Purity. I had fun interviewing padhola in Tororo too. We Are One BIG LUO NATION

Kindly share my videos with other luos. Let’s reach out to all luos in the world if possible.

@Aduong, we'll come to you next 😂😂

Yea you guys are closely related...

@@KPtravels001 okay no problem I can’t wait.

They all came from South Sudan bro.

I think we need to come together and form a kingdom of all tribe related.

Wow! I found it very interesting to have brothers and sisters in Uganda and TZ. Am a Luo from Siaya County in Kenya.

Yup they speak the original luo

My home is Kisumu county but I'm currently in Europe. I'm always fascinated by the luo from my maternal grandma's side of Alego in Siaya. They speak deep luo vocaublaries like "ndalo" which we call "puodho". They might understand Jo nam even more. I always stay in Kyanja, Kampala during my annual leave. I'm now motivated to travel up North with Pakwach as the first visit and if safe ancestral lands of South Sudan in the near future. It feels so good to be around people you feel connected with. While here just meeting a Kenyan, Ugandan, or Tanzanian brings joy.

The lady is beautiful

Yeah, it is very surprising seeing how much we have in common despite being geographically apart for many years

Hahahaha pleeeeeeease 😂😂😂. Is it the video or girl? Anyway, I think I need to make a list of all the candidates and present to her for assessment

Hahahaha well it's possible to unite without politicizing 😂😂.

Thank you nyamera. Help me share it widely.

Thanks Newton. I wonder how “mia” infiltrated almost all luo subtribes even though it’s a borrowed word

@@KPtravels001 that's quite surprising. Even Acholi say mwaka to mean year and kalam to mean pen

Piny obed yom nyamera 😂😂😂 kudos Luo Nation greetings from Kenya

@@cavineowaka6749 mwaka is from kiswahilli but proper Acoli word is oro. Kalam could be swahilli too, I will check on this.

That means Anyuak is also very close to luo of Kenya 🤝

@@KPtravels001 yes Anyuak is also very similar to Dholuo of Kenya

Am kenyan Luo and am happy to know Luo nation is so wide a cross east africa

Wonderful

Am a jonam from Pakwach Distrust,along the River Nile, Uganda. In 2013 I had a chat at Whitesands Hotel, Mombasa, with Dr Okum, the CEO Centre for Corporate Governance. He was surprised we didn’t need interpreter to communicate.

Thank you so much. We’re one big family. Please share my videos with your friends and family. I need all possible luos onboard

@@KPtravels001 asante bi Mia support bende

Bi Mia support

Thank you Fredrick . I'm rejoining the dots

You're welcome. A step at a time. I'm sad that I spent my entire childhood thinking that we [luo of Kenya &TZ] are the only luo in the world

Do it😊. It's amazing. A journey of self discovery

Thank you so much. I also find Jonam the closest of all the Luo tribes. Please share this video with friends. Let's have all possible luos onboard

Iam from ugenya

Ugenya Luo clan in Kenya understand jonam very well because they belong to jokomolo

True. Gipiirs descendants were not permitted to cross to the east of the nile due to the curse at Wang Lee. Likewise Labongos followers were not allowed to cross to the west side of the nile. Gipiirs followers inter-married with the Lendu and Okebo people to produce Alur.

Well, some good articulation of history here. Betty and Odoch, could you both send me a private message? I need some clarification

Thank you so much 🙏. It my pleasure to be able to awaken the awareness of every single luo in every single country. Kindly share my videos with as many friends and family as possible.

She's very eloquent 🤗

We also call hand ching in kenya

I could go to Tanzania but it's not necessary because luo of Kenya & TZ is one group. Same language, same dialect, same accent. To be honest, they even have relatives on both sides of the border and cross often to attend weddings, burials etc

@@KPtravels001 yeah it doesn't make sense

I have your back 😉😉

On behalf of everyone who participated, THANK YOU 🙏

Could you send me a private message? I want to inquire on how I can get copyright permission for some luo music 😊

Yeah, Jonam is the closest to luo of Kenya

Thank you so much. We try to give our best

Dholuo should adopt the lost "Dak"

Are they really luos?

@@KPtravels001 not really but they're river lake nilotes and almost everything you were discussing is very similar to what the Nuer and dinka would say.

They are closely related to Luos. Nuer is much closer to Luos then Dinka is. It is said that Nuer once lived with the Luos in Southern Kodorfan before the Luo Moved to Bahr el Ghazal . Also that many nuer s were incorporated into Luo at some point.

They are very close to luos.. especially the nuer. But in this regard even Turkana is closer to luo than it appears. Words are different but within there is some common origin.

@@cls4786 very true compare Acholi dressing and Turkana very identical

Adwoko erokamano nyamera. An Jahomabay an bende

Alaf liz umeolewa...nikutafte..

Yeah, I often feel so thrilled to have the reality (of how close we're) reveal itself before my eyes.

Hey am Japadhola try we please much love

A connection has started already 😉😉

Thank you so much Belinda. Kindly share with your friends and let's get every luo on board

I'll also pass the greetings to every luo group(s) I meet

Wooow, this comment got me. I’m happy to be impacting the lives of the luo children in Gambella. Hopefully I’ll meet some of them when I come over for the Anywaa/Anyuak interview

@@KPtravels001 Ina pwøc (Erokamano).

Ofcourse the colonialists’ version of “discovering Nam Lolwe” is hogwash. Every African tribe around the lake knew the lake before the arrival of the wazungu

Dreams are valid 😍

Thanks. I think I'm a little ignorant about luo dialect of Alego

@@KPtravels001 not just Alego. Alego, Ugenya, Gem, and Yimbo make up almost a third of Luo land. One out of 3 Luos in Kenya talk this way ...

'Lwet' is 'finger nails'

@@Julesamon in which dialect? It is clear that there is no universally “correct” usage.

@@Julesamon kogno oe kok is finger nail.lwet is hand.

Alright.

Hahahaha focus is on the camera not the girl 😂😂

hahaha focus boychild 🤣🤣

Anyway thanks so much omonto minto

Lol😅😅

your name Matara - does it have a meaning? The Luo of Sakwa - Siaya County might want to know!

Yes, it was much easier to converse with them

Very true... I'm from Alego and I can relate.

Yeah, I was amazed too

I haven't forgotten brother. South Sudan was at war when I wanted to come and I was told to wait until everything is settled.

I’m happy too to be part of this. The luo of Ethiopia are next

They are obviously happy to see you too😉😉

I will. I've just finished with luo if Uganda so definitely I'll be in Ethiopia sooner than you imagine

Ethiopia has luos, sikua najua...

@JERRY COLLINS OMONDI very intriguing...kwa hivyo Luis wamesambaa kote.... lakini Ethiopia aiii, walifika uko aje, alaf lugha yao wakenya wanaweza elewa...

@JERRY COLLINS OMONDI incredible...

Well, this is the closest I ever felt. I had a field day among Jonam. I had free conversations in luo

Nimefurahi Sana wajaluo wa TANZANIA we are the original one tuko sawasawa na wajaluo wa Kenya hata Uganda MUNGU AWABARIKI KWA KUUNGANISHA Wajaluo wote

Thank you so much. It was amazing finding out that these people exist

All western tribes in western kenya are ìn Eastern uganda, eg iteso ,turkan,samia,saboti,gisu/bukusu,aluru,luos japadhola,wahayo

Glad it was helpful! Kindly share with your friends and family. I need more luos here.

More than South Nyanza? I think it blends with both South and Central Nyanza luo

@@KPtravels001 central Nyanza yes, most Pakwach's words are similar to thier dialects and, their tongue is much faster than southerners... yaani gi rudho wach.

@@anderikusjuadi hahahaha are you from the South or Central?

fingers- Ching/lweti,is the true luo words.hand- bat

You are right very close to Alego and Ugenya

I’m coming for you next😂

So close! Closer than I ever imagined😊

Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you

No, you have been wrong all along 😂😂

Yeah, sound like both are used among the luo of Kenya. Unfortunately, I didn’t about “ching” before the making of these videos

Thank you so much

I bet so. I still feel Jonam is the closest to Kenyan luo more than all but you probably understand her more than me😀

Yes 👍

It has something to do with the migration patterns.

Majority of people who moved to Kenya were from the Jonam group

@@KPtravels001 I see

@@georgetacful it's alleged that luo of Kenya are a cocktail of different luo tribes

There were several groups of Luo during the migration period and even prior to migration

From my interactions with the luo, I deduce that Joka Jok were Acholi, Joka Owiny were padhola, while Joka Omollo were Jonam (and Alur in general).

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Yeah, I had a field day in Pakwach, Northern Uganda. I had natural conversations on the road and in shops and restaurants without being noticed as a foreigner.

That’s true Alex. I feel South Nyanza have lost bit of the language

@@KPtravels001 south nyanza are majorly suba who have also lost a language and culture.

​@@GodfreyAirado you know Suba population is pretty small? Read more about Southern Nyanza Luos

Thanks for clarifying this. I feel like I need a second video with the Kumam to explore their history

I thought lwet is the arm while fingernails are 'kogno/koke'🤭

​@@dorineawino7449 fingernail = kok/ kogno, hand = lwed/ lwedo/ ching, arm = bad ( luo from Kenya)

​​@@dorineawino7449arm is bat. Lwedo is hand. Finger lith lwedo or ching in Ugenya/Alego

Thanks for the info! And I’m glad you like what I do😊

That's a good suggestion. But that needs a dedicated budget. I'll consider it in the future

Yeah the separation might have led to differences in some vocabulary

United n intermarriage with kisii,samia,and wanga, people in mumiasi thats why u hear names like ousi,okumu,ouma,akinyi odyek,Owir,Awori,oparanya etc Mostly bantu people we don't commonly use the word O in names

I agree. And Swahili words obviously cropping in

Luo is one big nation. Bigger than we imagined

Thank you so much. A journey of a 1000 miles has just started

Because you are their sister 😜

And who is "we" in your sentence?

@@KPtravels001 Ooh, sorry, I meant majority of Ugenya, especially young guys.

Kiny nabi would come from one who is passing a message. While abiro kiny comes from someone who's been made to respond to question. Am jalego born in S. Nyanza

@@okumuokelo4494 hahahaha I'm loving this. Your grammatical analysis of the luo language is amazing. "Kiny nabi" is a sentence while "abiro kiny" is a response to a question

@@maasaimaasai2895 great. I just wanted to know if the "we" is Acholi, Alur etc.

Yeah, we're heading there🤗

I feel you, the colonial borders did us dirty. We can start by forming cross border Luo organisations then keep making small progress.

Not a kingdom but a nation. A Luo nation. A kingdom requires a geographical location complete with a king/queen. A nation, on the other hand, knows no geographical bounds and is all in the hearts and minds of the people.

@@georgeodhiambo598 Omondi's proposal is a Luo Nation with our own governance and teritory. We can curve out this from the current nations/countries we live in, that I support. Hearts and mind is a little vague

@@peterobila1243 I know that and that's what I was responding to. There is a difference between a nation on the one hand, and a country and its variants on the other. A nation is created out of a strong sense of belonging to a group of people. It does not even require the existence of a country into which people are "forced" to exist under coercive powers of a state. A nation is built out of a bond to which people willingly and joyfully become a part of because they believe in it. In this day and age, it is very easy to trace and find people with whom you share common and binding interests to create a nation without the concurrence of any coercive state power. Neither a coercive state power in the existing countries nor a some coercive state power associated with the nation to be created out of the lost but found new interactions of a people. The more I read about the current situation and physical disparity and dispersion of who are natural members of the Luo Nation, the more I realize that the first step is to create networks for building the "nation" rather than seeking a physical "country" first. There are communities that fall under the Luo Nation in Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Sudan, Ethiopia, DRC, Chad, etc. Others have suggested that some are even traceable in West Africa (Cameroun, Senegal, Nigeria, etc). It is unimaginable how a geographical country or kingdom could be established under those spaces currently occupied by the various Luo Nation units. But it is very easy to build the necessary bonds of nationhood without regard to the geographical space one may find himself in. The future of nationhood will be found in cyberspace. Geographical space will be a secondary issue. Luos, in its wider sense have a factor which is both a strength and a weakness. Together they are many, actually very many. But they are also highly dispersed. Being dispersed makes them a minority in the many countries over which they are spread. So the greatest benefit will be realized when they turn their wide dispersion into a strength rather than a weakness. Nationhood is a heart and mind matter. It is an emotional thing. A feeling thing. Remember that the Jews survived and indeed thrived two thousand years of nationhood without a country/state of their own. They created their sense of purpose around the Jewish Nation and made their presence be felt. Luos are better off because although they are dispersed, the various branches all have ancestral land wherever they are settled.

Yeah, I think I haven't the Kenyan luo as much as I thought because I never heard anyone use this word

@@KPtravels001 mostly uswd by jo ugenya

@@KPtravels001 aching' means aluedo

Jo luo ma ugenya be luongo fingers ni chingi.

@@KPtravels001 kel nyathino kisumu.

Thanks so much Opara. Kindly send me a private message on email or Facebook and I'll direct you how to send me the video

Thank you. Kindly share with friends and family. We need as many luos here as possible

Then what will one say about "lith luedo or lith lueti" am in TZ.

Exactly, I've always told some of them but they seem adamant.!!

@@francisgendo7297 that's top of the finger

I mean tip

Hahaha luhya is luhya😂.

I would need to read more on this😊😊. I'm not sure if I should trust it

Woods who et al. Also who is the publisher?

Genetics and language are two different things. If it was linguistically then that would make sense.

Could you have a link to that publication I am very much interested

Padhola, but remember kenya luo has all clans, acholi,even karamojong.

May it be so

Thank you. Kindly help me share widely

Yeah many people have said that. Do you if it's possible to remove it while the video stays on RU-vid?