Lying to Police After Discovering a Graphic Crime | Jill Halliburton-Su 

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Brilliant thank you

Mike...I am moving from Tex-ass to Flori-duh. Pray for me that I don't wind up as one of your stories.

Thank you for last Irish story 🥰 and I'm asking for moooore 😁

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this comment is the best one 😂

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Right, a lot of this makes no sense.

Ya! My first thought was, it's totally the dad/husband! I may have to listen again as I feel like I must've missed some details since I was trying to listen at work.

Yeah, based on what was presented here, I'm surprised the father/husband wasn't in the crosshairs more. His claim of seeing someone _in real time_ break into his house on Nest is EXTRAORDINARILY unlikely. And then he went on to try to implicate his own son, which is very very odd. Obviously a youtube video can't possibly cover everything. We don't know the whole story. But based on the info presented here, he seemed like the most likely culprit. It's likely he was ruled out for good reason that just wasn't mentioned in this video, but, yeah, definitely seems weird.

Well if I'm an elderly who knew little of technology, I would ask help from my ADULT son to help me checking it out.

@@ardinsalim9048 you'd send your family member into a house with a masked intruder that you've already seen on camera because you need him to help you with the technology?

Exactly, had to be somebody familiar

I had a dog that was so dumb, he played fetch with the burglars that stole almost everything I owned. He was a sweet dog but he didn’t have 2 brain cells.

@@elizbethcook8223he played fetch with the burglars? Thats wild lol

Seriously, some dogs are really not with it, could be considered just dumb.

Doesn't mean anything.,... What he went to house and got dogs trusted it's big house could of locked dog in another room.... Then dog went sleep they don't tell us age of dog neither old deaf dog....

He was let go after 11 hours of interrogation.. he was never arrested. They were doing the same thing to the dad in another room and neither asked for an attorney.

Fully agree! I personally thought Justin was innocent the whole time (i put myself in his shoes at that age in a sense and he didn't seem to be faking in the interrogation room*) and he deserves an apology at the least! I hope he's doing well despite such a tragic situation with his Moms horrible murder* And such a unbelievable story overall * She was a lovely person it's beyond terrible ❤

YES! I was thinking the same thing.

My thoughts exactly!

@@m.m.1933 When you can get a kid to say “I want my mommy”. He was at full stress mode and the one person he wanted was no longer around.

People who lack street smarts will often make weird decisions when they are faced with a serious emergency. And in all fairness, he called his son because he thought it was his son on the footage.

@@indifferentadvocate1737 Yeah, but once you find out that the man wasn’t his son, he should have called the police right away.

not really. Ive definitely seen police act in such a way that would make me fearful that they would shoot my wife on accident. It lead me to look up some statistics on it once that really scared me tbh. Alot of departments wont even give an officer re-training after they shoot your wife because she was shaking too much. Current training has them shoot her immediately if she startles them--even if there is cover available to evaluate first. Qualified immunity guarantees that the officer will only be judged by his colleagues rather than people like you and others in the community, I would maybe call wife first, then neighbor (or maybe just the neighbor--im the one he would call too.) it depends on what my gut would be telling me in the moment.

yeah, like why even have a camera then? 😂

Some never consider calling police

Ya that got my spidey senses tingling for SURE. I have a doorbell and back yard camera that I check on periodically when I’m away. If I saw something fishy, I would be on the phone to 911 IMMEDIATELY. If my daughter was near by I would then call her to tell her NOT to go to the house where the bad shiz might be going down. Seeing a masked intruder and then calling a loved one to go check it out is extremely bizarre

He called his son thinking it was him on the camera. He 100% thought it was his son goofing off.

​@@Syndrum But once his son said it wasn't him, he still didn't call 911. Wtf. It's like he didn't care about his wife's wellbeing.

Very very fishy.

@@atlasbonds6095 I feel you, I think the father thought his son was bullshitting him, though. Who knows. But the father had an alibi. The son was seen on camera only getting there after the fact. An odd family, yeah. But the only evidence was pointed at the guy currently in jail for life.

One of them was definitely innocent and they hounded both of them so they definitely hounded an innocent man. If you’re ever accused of a crime clam up until you have a lawyer.

You ever see that one TC vid of Ryan Waller, where they were hostile to the innocent kid and THEN they found the real reason he was being incoherent? I left out the reason so to not spoil. It was crazy like this.

about the sentence - it's clear that in the first prosecution the State gave the jurors the option of lesser included offense. The jury reached a verdict but then the foreperson threw the verdict by announcing it was not HER verdict. That forced a new trial. I've never heard of this happening before. So Dayante was retried.

@@dane947yes, I was so furious about that. Nothing will bring that poor man back, but I don’t remember if the police had any real consequences. It makes me furious though.

That's why, even if you absolutely KNOW your're innocent, DO NOT talk to the police without a lawyer.

Exactly! And for someone who never committed a violent crime before, this would be quite a big leap.

Evil thoughts and lies perpetrate the soul via saturn..... ur=a.... spiritual warfare

I don’t think he did it 😢

Maybe the dad put a hit out on his wife and tried to set the son up

No motive

Ya! We need a follow up on that lol. Also if he could throw in an insurance policy dance for our pleasure even though that wasn't the case! 😄

He was still there to interview Deonte I noticed... Dirty pig lol

I know, right!! Damn.

@@sarebear1592 He should be called out on his lies! 😂

@@ThumbsUpKitty agreed ! Also agree on the life insurance policy dance 🪩 haha Mike's the best 😊

Maybe he thought that if he'd kill his mom, he wouldn't think twice about killing his dad either.

Dad did not said his son did it. His dad said " he is skinny and looked white" The cop tried to make him confuse by staying his dad said it was him.

@@onionheadguy7094 eh?

@@glow1815 His dad was asked who else (besides himself!) knew where the cameras were. He didn't hesitate even a nano-second to say "My son!" with exclamation intended. Plus, he just happened to "look" when the so-called intruder was in the house (no evidence, just his word), and he sent his son there to discover his mother in the tub. Sick and twisted, my money is on the father all the way. You think a guy who works in a lab all day doesn't know how to frame someone?

I think the father did it. I think he was upset at his wife for "coddling their lazy son." He left the hot water running to obscure the time of death and give himself an alibi. He sends his son to the scene of crime and tells the police someone matching the son's description disabled the cameras. I mean, if the son had not been on camera on his way home he would have been charged with his mother's murder. That's just my guess.

Right. Further, if there is one thing I know it's that in this country money can often buy a lot of things. All it takes is the right officer to do a solid or take a bribe. Dad sees an intruder, confirms it's NOT the son, doesn't call police, sends son to investigate, son looks all around the house before finding her in the bathtub, he doesn't call police, he calls dad back and only then do they call the police. Just weird.

Yeah but, he was asking people to make alibi's for him. And his DNA was there. What this video fails to mention is that water is very damaging to DNA.

people always say the person who did it is a race that they dont belong to

@@DriftKingfromTekken3Did you not hear that it wasn’t found on the knife in the tub or bathroom. It was found in the entry way, on a belt, and the knife dropped on the way out.

How much could he really see with a ski mask on? Dad got it wrong. DNA got it right.

Because the hired deleter was suppose to unalive the wife and kid leaving Pops all the cash 🤔

Because he believed that was his son on camera. He didn't believe there had been an intruder until his son called about finding the mom's body.

@@unc54 No. Once he realized something was off he called his son and had him go home and check things out. Yes there’s some confusion that initially happened.

@@djc6323 people don’t seem to understand the part of the case where it was very well explained that although she was a Haliburton, she didn’t have Halliburton money. She was disconnected from that part of her family. They left her nothing. They made their own careers. They were successful In their own right

@@unc54 So he saw who he thought was his son but unsure and didn’t immediately hangup and call the police.

Nope he doubles down in a dateline interview. Guy sucks.

I swear that's the same thing I wanna know 🤣

Yes me too! Did Justin get his apology cos they were calling it so early!!!

Definitely didn’t apologize and definitely didn’t consider a career change haha cops are too proud to apologize unless they’re in trouble

I doubt there exists a diagram merging detectives cocky enough to slam everything onto someone from the get go with qualities like sympathetic hindsight.

you’d think he wouldn’t want to put his son in a dangerous position

Yeah but nonetheless this is one more case that exemplifies why police should never go in with preconceived ideas. Imagine that there was no DNA evidence...that kid would be screwed.

And suspicious.

The dad thought it was the son playing around. The dad knows it's his son that killed his wife.

​@@ricardopereira2746 the kid did kill his mother. He was just lucky that a burglar was in the house also.

facts but i feel the other guy didnt either he seem legit shocked when the cop said murder this is a tough one i dont think they got the guy the dad said he saw skinny white male they arent similar at all in size it a hard one to judge lol

@@marquisfelder3170 The dad is a POS who isn’t half as smart as he thinks he is. Often highly specialized people are very DUMB in other areas. Like he threw his son under the bus and didn’t get him a lawyer either. And yeah described the perp as a white guy. The Dad’s a 🤡

Stupid cops should have to publicly apologize to that young man.

Well, I disagree. I thought the son sounded 'fake'. Over the top emotion, 'why would I kill my mommmmeeee'... Sorry, think they had it right in the first place. The son did it. DNA for the other guy... that's all you have. People seem to think DNA is the be all, end all... and it is not. More evidence against the son, than the kid serving time.

Yeah I bet he never got that apology from the cops.😅

Him screaming "mommy" really got me, idk he sounded genuine

The 911 call is what makes him look the worst in my opinion.

@@BrookeKatherine. Good thing you're not a detective.

I can't know for sure. There's so much room to doubt in each scenario

@@BrookeKatherine. And then he lied to the police during interrogation !!! He's as dumb as the dog that didn't wake up.

And then DNA of completely random person "being discovered" there by forensics. I feel professor had connection to make this DNA appear eh? I also think they should look into this Termite man he either used his son as a weapon or a fall guy and then changed gears imo.

Exactly what I was thinking! Plus how personal the attack was...I mean the black kid wasn't a Saint but didn't have any history of something that violent. The attack was clearly personal. Plus he was so calm in the interview, you wouldn't have assumed the dudes wife just got murdered. I'm guessing they had some way to prove he wasn't there. It's very odd

I totally agree and the son's reaction to the interrogation was completely normal to me, he was so panicked and confused.

The way he answered TOO quickly that his son was the only one besides him who had camera access, the way his video surveillance subscription had just lapsed, yet he conveniently happened to catch someone who looked like his son doctoring the cameras but didn't call the police. They are saying he has no motive, but he's the one with the money, and if he divorced his wife she might have gotten a big chunk. I just feel like he might have hired someone to do it, hoping his troublesome son would get blamed? Two birds out of the way with one stone. However, the young man who was convicted was highly intelligent and seems very manipulative and charismatic. I think he has the potential to be a VERY dangerous person. I could see someone raised with a very hard working mom barely ably to make ends meet, breaking into the home of a wealthy woman and finding her lounging around in the middle of the day and getting very angry and killing her because of it. I'm not convinced that either of them did it or were involved but either scenario seems possible.

Wow that is what I was thinking,why didn’t they integrate the dad like they did the son,and I’m not even sure the other guy did it and he got life,wow only god knows.may this woman rest in peace 🙏

He does work at McDonald's. That's why the shake machine is always out of service. Dude can't do anything right.

Honestly, I'd really like to know what that detectives email address is.

​@@amusedBYfoolsI'm sure with a little research, it wouldn't be too hard to find. If he's still a detective.

@@JackBQuick79it all makes sense now 😂😂

It's America, they have the worst justice system on Earth. It's a police state. They lead the world in locking up their citizens. With only 4% of the global population, the US has 22% of all prisoners on Earth. If you go to them to report a crime they just put you in prison. Absolutely avoid going there as it is also far more dangerous than the rest of the West.

i am sure they did

Father must have paid them off. He obvs did it

@@maryjanerx i think you are the culprit

@@maryjanerx Just what I was thinking, about the payoff anyway.

​@@maryjanerx he obviously planted the DNA of a known burglar whose exact MO was to not only rob wealthy houses but to also do it by that exact entry method? And he did all this magic while an hour away at work? Dateline covered this ten times better, this is literally the single worst video Mike has ever made. Anyone familiar with this case knows what a piss poor job he did in this research

That's exactly what I thought! He'd be watching the person answer the phone and say hello ...!

hmmmmmm

Nice.

I was literally about to comment this exact same thing but maybe the “intruder” had unplugged all the cameras by then?

And the father would definitely be able to tell if the intruder was black or white…

Can't say I would have acted "normal" if I was accused of murder or if I had discovered one..

@@tanjahelenkvitnes6954 most ppl blurt out the truth

Xackly.

I mean I thought he did it 3 mins in to the video

@@goodcitizen-ft9bg so did I lol

Didn’t work for the other guy. “I want a lawyer.” … “you’re being charged with first degree murder.” … “why” …. “ask your lawyer”

100% and never fall for the "only guilty people need a lawyer" crap.

Yeah right, cops never get held accountable, they do/say something stupid, and get a promotion 🤦

@Christine DeSimons ROFLMMFAO, I sure as eff hope so.. he'd be lucky to get employment as a picking up trash.

Nah he's off insisting he's right on some other poor slob

I wouldn't trust he would be able to do a good job at that either .

I think cops should serve the same amount of time the falsely accused person had to serve

And the hired murderer protects the dad at all cost? Every single hitman that gets caught turns on the guy who hires him. Every single one. That theory makes no sense.

He didn't check it. It sends you an alert when camera is triggered

​@@SoulDelSol even with the cancelled subscription? If so that's good to know

@@indifferentadvocate1737 If the hitman planted someone else's DNA, then it's a wash for the hitman.

@@indifferentadvocate1737hood politics would say not to snitch so if he went home after snitching he wouldn’t have a place no more

Ive slept under my desk at college. Many do to avoid going home to only come back again.

Makes sense that he lied to his overachiever Asian dad, probably wouldn't have approved of wasting precious time not studying.

Colleges are full of people taking naps in all sorts of places. Back before cell phones with alarms, they'd even put notes on themselves "please wake at 2pm" or whatever. Roll down the windows in the car for a slightly more private nap? You bet.

Yep. Done it myself.

@@-Monad- If you want to bring racial stereotypes into it, why not say it makes sense because the son was a typical dishonest, lazy, ill-educated American?

It's a demonstration of how the USA upbring their kids now. It's all one big soap opera and the better the "acting" the higher they get. Gotta LUV the way he grabs his head as if his brain is expanding and hurting inside.

Maybe we’ll get an update some day.

The whole thing with the father is just fishy. Just thinking as a dad myself; I would have done the complete opposite of this guy at every turn.

@@tillitsdone yeah right, you do not know what you will do in the future.

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@@ursodermatt8809 it’s not hard to know you won’t set up your kids. Maybe you can’t relate to that type of love.

That was my thought too!

Came here to ask the very same question. (^_^)

F**K NO! Pigs have no honor. No integrity. No character. A pig's word is s**t. If a pig gives his word, it's as good as him giving you a turd. Most detectives are interested in just closing a case. Not interested in whether or not it's the correct suspect.

@@SueP-D Yep. If I had to guess, I’d say nope. That wasn’t a very smart statement on his part imo.

@@fljpopguy We’ll probably never know… but I’m thinking he’s still there, interrogating more people.

Yeah we don't have them on our radar up north. But maybe y'all could import something that eats them. Monkeys? As for as how wonderful was Miss Halliburton; did she really make a living from her art? I never heard of her.

yep. i can relate to him. i did the sleeping in the car bit, too, when i was pretending to go to college. ended up programming myself to lie about it.

If my father had told me there's a guy in a mask at the house, bathtub would not be the first place to look for sure, but because of that, suicide wouldn't be my thought at all when finding someone injured or dead. No idea how others wouldn't connect it to that immediately...

@@sarcasm-83 Did the father tell him that or that the cameras were unplugged? Did he think his mother unplug the cameras, and his father just thought it was him? All this case shows is that if you have a friend check out a knife you have, then get it back carefully and put it in a ziplock, you can frame them for murder in Florida. I wonder if the cops even checked that community's entrance camera for the second guy.

Maybe he was throwing out drugs. Like a dumb selfish kid. I don’t know but if I were on the jury, there would be too much reasonable doubt. I wouldn’t vote to convict. At least his crying was convincing. That trips up psychopaths so much-they don’t know how to convincingly fake grief.

I feel this. I had to walk a very thin Line with my words growing up lest I shatter my parents fragile egos

Why? Dayne was a psychopath. He charmed everyone to believe he was innocent. Same thing Ted Bundy did when he was committing crime, he acted so innocent and all.

Dayonte* and also we live in society that thinks blacks are always just framed and can't actually be criminals.

As someone who has been part of a jury. I agree with this

Agree! BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT... DNA on the knife but nowhere near the bathtub or..? There is doubt here. Its messed up!

Punished or fined for DOUBTING??????? Yeah, right

That face when he heard the charge looked _very_ genuine to me.

He didn't do it. His body language tells all. He was expecting B&E allegations. Weird case.

He didn’t do this. He definitely is being honest.

Grammy's are for music not acting so what are you saying?

OK, so you are a racist... got it!

I thought the same thing. When the son tells his dad the mother is dead, the dad just says call the police. Not “get out of the house NOW” like what???

A street stupid lab nerd with no common sense. These people exist. It doesn’t override DNA evidence, cell phone data, etc.

A Korean dad

@@Lamedvavnikhe is Japanese.

Research. Before you move! Don't go to TX, it's gonna have all Cali's problems in no time, crime, traffic, more evil

They consider it solved.

im so sad he obviously was not guilty...not enough evidence either way...i wouldnt have found him guilty without a doubt

So three people, who didn't do it but all accused? What is wrong with the world?

Had a good heart!?

i'm absolutely certain that it was the son. The way he's throwing a tantrum, fake crying and is able to easily talk about his 'beloved' mom killing herself - he's guilty!

I found it hard not to laugh at the son's interview. He is so very clearly lying. He cant even keep his story straight on the same day. Also, when a father blames a son, that says A LOT because most fathers would not implicate their son, even if the father had been the murderer. That just doesnt happen often. I dont know if the black guy is invovled, but I tend to doubt it.

@@scorch4299 And I hope you never get to be a detective. 😁

@@scorch4299 You should keep in mind this is true crime entertainment. If you watch the actual full length interviews, the dad was not attempting blame him the way this was edited to seem.

What would the life insurance policy matter when the family is already rich? Rich people don’t murder for paltry life insurance money unless they’re in debt, which would’ve been mentioned if the police had uncovered any financial issues

@@chonkcat7362 mike wasnt trying to edit it to seem like that, the police were trying to get the son to confess to it by tricking him into thinking his dad was “talking“ in the other room

I ignore jury duty notices for the same reason. Apparently 80% of the ppl in my city do the same, the city put out this big thing about it. Sorry, City, but who am I to judge Anyone?! No thnks!💀

Also, I think this guy is innocent. I think the son did it. Jmo. Obvs I can't know. But that's my gut instict.

@@ginanotafan1039 Letting the incompetent 20% judge is worse. Many innocent people are convicted probably because the 80% are clowns ignoring jury summons.

​@Gina(Not A Fan) pretty sure ignoring jury duty summons can get you into trouble

@@kenna_smi apparently not for 80% of her city .

Just like Chandler Halderson, Joel Guy, Grant Amato…. They all have so much in common! Justin killed his mother!!! He didn’t know that the Nest subscription lapsed…. He unplugged all the cameras, wearing a mask thinking the cameras were still recording….he used his own knives and tried to cover it up!

@@joycemarie9702 I agree, I think the son is guilty.

​@@joycemarie9702 it's not hard to buy a new knife

I literally did the same thing during a time of depression. I’d sleep in my car so my family didn’t know.

@@joycemarie9702 okay karen

​@@One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All he has been caught numerous times as seen. Plus what kinda POV is that. Because of burglary he should be in jail for a crime he didn't commit? Assuming he's innocent obviously

Maybe he hoped that his son would get killed too???

@kcbeatz32 the MO doesn't match and I'm wondering how this could be wrong.

This is exactly what I thought

The dad didn't have a motive.

Always. Cops can say almost anything in an interaction. They can lie, cuss and so many other things.

Ummmm it’s a criminal investigation you smooth brain what clown world do you live in? 😂😂😂😂😂

most jurors are NPCs

Reasonable doubt isn't an option for young black men. It's guilty until proven innocent.

​@@SlikkRikk504 did you watch the video? The first trial the jurors were gonna give him a lighter sentence just because he was black. (Btw, I think he's innocent)

@@dusktildawn2428 do you live in America?

@@I.B.S yeah

I don’t think they have the right man at all, this case definitely needs investigated further imo

evelynvslife: He just couldn't just up and leave his research at University...you underestimate the importance of termite analysis.

Not just a masked man... a masked scrawny white man.... definitely needs further investigation.

He thought was his son

@@nwicconsultants6640 🤭😂

To me he sounded like a liar. The genuine calls-- often-- are just reports in a shaky voice. But always the guilty person is shrieking. Would a regular person continue in hysteria like this son did with the police? Would the non-dramatic father be so open to the possibility of his son's guilt as this man was if his son was not the type to have committed such a crime?

​@@amberspauldingexactly. It sounds like he's acting. And badly.

nicely put.

What hi-def device did you watch this on because I couldn't see whether he had tears or not.

And why didn’t his father call the cops immediately if he thought it was his son?? Nothing makes any sense here…

@@bellamichelle6248 that part.

Well hes right

Let me ask you this after the entire video look at the son responses and look at the young man who went away and not their words their body language their facial expressions justin killed his mother and covered it up unfortunately the bimbo cops in florida are like the rest of the state stupid asf when it comes to real stuff like this

I know right! You could have knocked me over with a feather when he said somebody would have to know where our security cameras are and the cop asked who knows where they are? The buggy dad says my son. Without hesitation.

me either...he should have gotten the death penalty

The dad saw a WHITE guy! 5:35

Yeah it’s not adding up.

I can't believe he got convicted. It doesn't make any sense

@@heatheratkinson7956 it makes zero sense. but i can def believe he still got convicted. SMH

I must agree with you. The investigators didn’t do a good enough job with making sure that there is no doubt of anyone’s guilt. I feel like there’s way too much emotion and tribalism involved in courtrooms these days.

The fact they found a way to pin it on a black male without any substansive evidence despite the fact the father distinctly said it was a white male speaks volumes.

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Its supposed to be BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. Having seen this video, I have more reasonable doubt he didnt do it.

We didn’t get to see all the evidence. Prosecutors probably proved from phone he was nearby at the time.. there had to have been more evidence than just dna

Agree 100%

Imagine getting away with murder after your family pins it all on a random black kid...

@@k.o.h3599 Did you watch the video? It's proven it could not have been the son. I'm not arguing whether the conviction was right, evidence there seems shoddy to me too, but you can't say "imagine getting away with murder" when he obviously didn't do it. Maybe it was the dad but gtfo of here with that shit, I'm talking about this kid's trauma, nothing else.

​@@k.o.h3599 research the case. The dudes DNA is multiple places. And he had no connection to the family. The right guy is in prison.

@@stephenlowe8158 DNA means nothing when evidence can be planted. A low level burglar with no history of violence doesn't just suddenly and randomly do what he's accused of doing.

That or because polygraphs are useless and shouldn't be used.

Polygraphs are literal garbage and most people know that by now

I don't usually feel perplexed when watching these cases but I must say I feel confused and very sad like there was an injustice done here. It just doesn't feel right. However when the suspect started looking for an alibi I started coming off the fence.

No it doesn't. Mike just did a TERRIBLE job presenting the overwhelming evidence against the killer bc Mike is a random dude on the internet who has no business making these videos

@@17thknight if thats how you feel, why are you watching?

@@17thknight I like Mike's videos and I have never felt that he was poor at presenting cases. Sorry you feel the way you do.

it may be just me, but i had the feeling something is missing...

and why were you with him at the time?

@@NuncNuncNuncNunc I was in juvenile detention. Don't see what you're trying to prove or get at lmao

@@gitgudbra "on the internet everyone is a dog" If someone posts they have first hand knowledge that no one else has, one should be skeptical because everyone can say anything. Your followup lends credence to your original statement even though it is not proof.

You are absolutely correct... don't listen to these LIBTARD APOLOGISTS!

Right? What sets a lot of people off no matter how "good" or "bad" they are is being accused of something do ACTUALLY didn't do. I would have reacted very similarly for sure. Imagine being accused of the murder of your family when you're innocent and the cops are sitting on their asses yelling at you instead of going to find the actual killer(s).

This is true. That scream on the phone with the dispatcher was as real as it gets. Those cops are the keystone type

Soo agree with these comment, I seriously didn't believe the son did it, he just didn't come across as a murderer at all

I felt the same way by hearing the cracks and desperation in his voice. Especially when he said, "my dad?!" When they told him what his dad had been saying. It reminded me of when I was young and my dad would blame me for things I never did. I would sound just like that trying to prove my innocence to my dad who already thought of me as guilty and making excuses/lying. It's exhausting and makes you feel crazy. Similar to how I felt with my ex who was a narcissist and would twist every little thing to fit his narrative and make me the bad guy. Of course there are people who are good at faking it, but in cases like this I personally didn't think he was guilty. I would've been surprised if he really had done it, because my gut and his response was that he didn't. It's scary how many innocent people go to jail though. Especially when police pride gets in the way. When people's egos are so high and they don't want to admit they're wrong. Anyway I've rambled on long enough lol.

@@roguemystique7 Omg-osh Lea I've been there too with the gas lighting & feeling insane, truth always comes out in the end though hun, exhausting is always how I described it

yea, also dna on a knife? I don't know ... sounds staged. Not wearing gloves and dropping a knife infront of a door like some murder cinderella is a bad staging which police loves I guess. Also son screaming I dont know ... screaming often means lying. The intruder was white, then he wasn't. He was wearing a mask and just went to kill? Why bother with cameras ...

Makes sense. I agree

me, too

Of course he did, what an asshole

Wtf this crazy dad remarried so fast?

His father did murder her!!!!!

@@PabloandHumans nobody said he didn’t, why you mad🤔

​@@PabloandHumans no do a little research and you'll know the right guy is in prison. This is not hard people.

@@stephenlowe8158 and you probably love Joe Biden. Creep. The right guy may be in prison, but he didn't do it, just to do it.

@@Prosodyy not mad and many people (check out comment under yours) think he had NOTHING to do with it. He sent his son there for a MF reason

But he was called by his dad to go home because their was an intruder, my first thought would be, that intruder killed her

@@agiraffe3673 His dad clearly didn't communicate the extent of what was going on. Why on earth wouldn't he have called 911 immediately after calling Justin? He sent his unarmed teenage son into a house with a burglar in it? Something about this is fishy and honestly, it isn't Justin.

She was tied up

@@lucyandlily4197 ☑️

So….you ignore actual DNA evidence over a feeling that the other two are just ….sus. Wow. Who ever let you be a part of a jury needs to be slapped. You clearly ignore evidence in favor of speculation

I agree and it’s strange the son didn’t think to call the police too. I mean he didn’t know the situation he was going into. What if there was an armed robber in the house?

This !!!

I wondered if this was a cultural reaction at first, like not trusting the police and trusting family, but it’s sketchier the longer I think about it, even with that. My current (probably wrong) theory is the father set up the situation, maybe hired a killer, gave the info about the security and his son’s knives. Burglar was hired and told the house would be empty to make it more believable as a burglary gone wrong-killer handed him a knife and went after the woman as she tried to run (two guys with knives, yeah, I’d run). Killer ties her up, she gets his mask off, he uses it as the excuse to kill her then, burglar guy freaks and runs, dropping the knife. Killer is either someone the burglar knows and is unwilling to turn on (fear or loyalty), or the killer is a complete stranger (explains why he had to get out to contact people to try to find out who the killer was; he either couldn’t find out or he did and was threatened into keeping his mouth shut).

To me it just means he knew it was his son wearing a mask, or very probable.

@@kellybraun7048 It’s possible the father hired that guy whose dna was in the house, was told to use the sons knives and drop the murder weapon in plain site to frame the son, of course he’d describe him as the son if he was trying to set him up, everything was far too convenient.

@@kellybraun7048 also didnt he make a point of talking about her family and how well off they were, i dont know if her inheritance would pass to the husband but i wondered about all of that and how it could play a part in someone killing her, maybe her husband and then using the son or the other guy as the scapegoat

There is a strong possibility that the guy whose DNA was found at the crime scene and in other parts of the house, had a history of breaking into and robbing houses in the area, escaped from custody and tried to get people on the outside to lie for him did not do this. Okay, sure. What possibility would that be?

@@meisteremm just because the guy is a trash individual, it doesn’t mean he did it. I’m not saying he wasn’t there, I’m just saying that the son and the dad seem to have something to do with it. Look at how chill the dad was while he was interviewed. He didn’t once mention how distraught he was about his wife. I think he may have instructed his son and told him to bring a friend. There’s no way the son didn’t know that guy who’s locked up right now. But hey, it’s all speculation 🤷🏾‍♀️

@Barbie’s stepsister You're right, it is ALL speculation. What isn't speculation is DNA evidence, which is what they have at the house and the crime scene.

I would bet my 401k that you wouldn’t comment that if he was white

A white guy would have been found guilty at the first trial. No one would have been saying I don't want to convict this young white guy to prison.

Hahaha 😆 😂 😆

It was murder after all.. That just as easily could have been him in prison for life...

About the age of 18 you're no longer a child. Find it interesting how some people with something skin tones can be looked upon as a child although you have to age 25 yet others are called an adult when they're only in their teens.

Awe man

I did it all the time in fact. Pre med took it out of me. I even kept a camping mattress in the back of my SUV just to take naps in there during undergrad. Having parents with high expectations as well, if I really didn’t want to go to class, I went to the school anyway. Especially if I had more than one class. I’d skip one or two and go to the other one. I had a music history class that I never actually went to, but I’d be on campus sleeping in my car.

He not only called his son to go to the house, he even blame the son for it...