I did this upgrade using the 12-pound hammer spring. I got light strikes with the 10-pound (red). My trigger pull is 4 pounds down from 7 pounds! Way more accurate at the range. Well worth the cost and time!!!!!!!
Just swapped out the 10 pound hammer spring for the 12 pound hammer spring for the same reason. I was averaging at least 1 light strike per magazine at the range. Hoping the 12 pound spring resolves this issue.
@@kristopherhiser4967 Yes I've ran about 3 boxes of ammo through it with the 12lb and not one light primer strike. With the 10lb I couldn't make it through a magazine without a light primer strike. Go with the 12
@@B2the4th Thank you! I could shoot my defensive ammo with the 10lb, but I could not make it through a single mag of FMJ with the 10lb. I swapped to the 12lb last night. Haven't had a change to test yet.
@@kristopherhiser4967 Shouldn't have any more issues with it. My philosophy on ammo is I want a gun that will shoot almost anything I put in it. (Russian steel ammo is the exception) Never know when you'll find yourself in a situation and Magtech FMJ is all you got.
When you say hold onto those springs you weren't kidding. My Takedown Pin Dent spring is no longer with me lol. Called Ruger to order another one and they hooked me up no charge! That's customer service I can get behind right there!
The MCARBO upgrades (all of them) are worth every penny of their investment cost. The trigger and spring kit is a MUST have. I used the 12 lb return spring and it's perfect for a carry gun in the pocket. Their quality parts are worth every penny for the improvement they provide.
Just completed install on the new trigger and thanks so much for the tutorial. Very methodical, easy to follow and great tips on the do's and don'ts for the install. I am a novice and could not have done this without the video. Job well done and many thanks!
I just got back from the rifle range. Due to the 10 lb hammer spring and upgrade on the trigger, I cut the group size in half, nothing short of incredible! Thank you Mcarbo!
Thanks for the very detailed video. I ordered the trigger kit, spring kit and the new contact rod and spring. I replaced All the polymer parts along with the striker spring a pin, contact rod and spring. Polished the barrel ramp and the partial ramp at the top of the magazine housing/lower 1/2 of pistol. 👍👍👍
Just got this trigger and spring kit delivered yesterday, looking forward to attempting the install. Thank you for the video! I don’t know about the 10lbs hammer spring, maybe a 12 and 14 would have been a little more practical for this type of handgun. I love a good three pound trigger, but not sure in your front pocket is the place for it. Just my two cents. Keep up the good work!
@@CompShooter54 I did buy their trigger and the spring kit, but haven’t installed it yet. Definitely going to go with the heavier hammer spring when I install it. I always think there’s a balance between pull weight and action/travel of the trigger, I usually carry something with a 5-6 pound trigger with a fair amount of pre travel and a slightly longer reset. I’m not the biggest fan of a manual safety on a carry gun, unless it’s a single action only gun. I’ve had a lot of pocket 380’s over the years, but strangely haven’t had a Bodyguard. A palm size gun with a long DAO trigger that breaks at 9 lbs sounds pretty tough to shoot accurately. Is that the case?
Popped a hammer spring seat pin dropping an unloaded one upon checking a retention holster, thanks for the thorough process, saved me a lot of aggravation.
Before installing the roll pin for the firing pin take the 1/16" punch and check your hole is clear. I did not do this and the roll pin dinged the edge of the firing pin. The ring was enough to cause light strikes. I had to disassemble and file the ding out.
I just installed these into mine, it is the best investment you can make! Absolutely makes a good gun, a great gun! I'd recommend the 12lbs spring if you intend this for carry.
Attempting to install this caused much headache and nail scratching. Not your guys' fault. I wish I knew how frustrated I'd be when attempting to bend and remove the hammer spring, removing the firing pin, and then reassembling it all back. I ended up not installing it. Pity. Edit: Ok, I went back and decided to give it a go again. I finally installed it. My fingertips are sore but it's finally done. A new level of respect for gunsmithers.
I did the install . Made a world of difference, but it is going in the safe, it's still no fun to shoot and in my opinion not a huge enough difference in concealability to replace my Hellcat or HK P30 SK . Really good instructional video. Thanks
I put the 12lb spring in because people saying 10 lb gave light primer strikes.. out of 48 rounds I had 10 failure to fire due to light strikes.. putting the stock spring back in.. was a waste of money for me
Thanks for your HONESTY about these products. When 99% of comments are a bunch of rants and raves it makes me skeptical like they’re paid for their reviews or employees of the company or something 👀🐸☕️
I do not want to change the spring, but do you advise upgrade the trigger? I just got the Ruger LCP Max Anniversary edition, and read that the stock trigger is pinching fingers. can I do the trigger and leave the factory spring? thanks!
What a great Video! I did exactly what you said and it worked well. The trigger pin was a challenge because of my fat fingers! I also added tritium rear sights and a Veridian red laser to the trigger guard. All set now. Thanks a million.
Wow ! This really is an outstanding installation video ! Very detailed and well explained and the visual aspect is just perfect ! In addition your description step by step and your reasoning about the order of the installation is not only logical but it complements the “timing” of the whole installation ! Just like a perfect narrative or a “thriller” if I may say so ! Thank you a lot Marc ! I subscribed immediately !
Did the full install and got light primer strikes with the 10 pound trigger spring. E-mailed Mcarbo but no response yet. Installed 12 pound spring and will try again. Mcarbo trigger is pretty nice though.
Totally with you, thought that the first time I pulled the trigger on the older LCP2 years back. The design of their new hammer springs to cancel that sounds is pure genius!
Hey, guys! So I installed everything and it feels great but I'm curious, when dry fire training, after I fire, my laser stays on like the firing pin is still engaged. I tested the laser and the firing pin and both seem to return to regular position on their own but then when I reassemble the gun, it does the same thing. Is this ok?
Broke the hammer spring cap. Little plastic tab is almost broken and has no retention now. I hope Ruger will sell me a new one. Damn thing just falls off now.
Sorry, also wanted to thank you for reading the trigger pull scale Correct. Most if not all of the other RU-vid’ers say 3 POINT 1 2 instead of 3 pounds 12 ounces. Bothers me, lol .
I have a question about pin down I just I perched the pin heavy duty from Mcarbo so whene I go to the range I noticed the pin star come out do you have any idea because I just contact them they said send me the pin back but I ask you that question do you notice that the pin from Mcarbo has the same issue with the pin like from ruger factory why the pin come out when the star shooting
Removing the trigger pin for the safety blade did not go so well. I used a block with very light hammer blows until I needed to hit it a little harder.....the stock trigger broke off. Oh well I didn't need it anyway right!
I’m debating just using the 12 lb spring kit with the stock trigger. I like having the longer pull of the stock trigger on an EDC but would like the lighter trigger for accuracy. It seems like a good compromise between accuracy and safety. Thoughts?
I believe with the new trigger set all the way in it would be close to same as original pull length, and you could try to adjust the travel, maybe something slightly shorter would be long enough for that saftey margin but also an improvment on the overal feel
Question for anyone who has the trigger. Does setting the pretravel change where the trigger breaks compared to OEM or does it just change where the pressure starts? (Wanting a crisper break with very little creep, yes I understand its a precocked hammer and will have some creep)
Any problem with just installing the trigger with all the factory springs? I'm just fixing a trigger safety issue on my 75th Anniversary model. Locks out the trigger accidentally at random. Not sure if all the spring kits are needed.
I just did this install and have totally lost all feel and sound on the reset. I let the trigger slowly creep forward after dry firing and can't tell when it's ready to go again. Any ideas? Used the 12lb spring and the supplied firing pin spring as well as the Mc trigger shoe.
Has anyone got light strikes with the 12lb Hammer Spring + the lighter Firing Pin Spring? Edited: Use a light Firing Pin Spring, if you upgrade the trigger and you use 12lb hammer. Light primer strikes are less likely to happen.
@@Cwh1992 yes. Out of 100 rounds of PMC Bronze 90 grain FMJ had about 6 or 7 light strikes with the 12lb hammer spring and the lighter firing pin spring. Never had any light strikes when testing higher end defensive rounds though.
@@bryantartusI was wrong. No, take out the factory springs, except the OEM trigger return spring. After testing different springs, if you upgrade your trigger and hammer spring, make sure you change to a lighter firing pin spring. If you don't, light primer strikes will happen, even with the 12lb hammer. Also, I suggest upgrading to a heavier trigger return spring, and not use the lighter one which comes with the trigger.
Should have gauged the weapon you worked on before and after. Hard primers can be a problem when changing trigger spring weight. Find ammo that's works well with the weapon.
I'm getting one of this LCP max soon Do I really need to upgrade it or is it fine the way it is???been reviewing/watching about this..before getting one.
It's fine imo, the upgrades will make it easier to shoot. The flat trigger is just a matter of preference, same with pretravel. The hammer spring makes a difference for sure.
@@peterv1318 but of noobie here can you explain why not? I thought adding the trigger and 12lb spring would help increase accuracy and overall trigger comfort why is that bad for carry
@@guitarthrasher81 light trigger is easier for you to squeeze for it to go off. Under stress this can make it go of when you don’t want it to. Yes you would have better control in shooting. In most situations you just have to pull the pistol and they will talk shit but walk away. You don’t want to be pointing it at them waiting for them to decide if they still want to attack you and the gun goes off. Edit you will most likely have your finger resting on trigger and stress will actually make you tighten your fingers.
How does this compare to the galloway one as far as feel goes? also i saw they have a 13lb recoil spring for sale but you guys dont any reason for that? does it even make a difference?
Don’t be a idiot like me, I didn’t realize the springs had the cotton/felt material inside for the quieter trigger pull. My dumbass thought it was material that got stuck from me cleaning so I kept pulling the stuff out until there was no more only to realize what it was for 😂😂😂😂😢🔫 Now it boings again!
It's ridiculous that companies even make different springs for these triggers. That you should not even give options for different Springs it's pointless this is a self-defense gun it should always be the factory spring!
Why? Using a holster that covers the trigger and not pulling a gun out unless you intend to use it solves the issue. Also 5 pounds isn't that light. Also, don't keep your finger on the trigger. Don't do stupid crap and it's fine.
Usually they have real good videos but this video is so edited it must be a pain to install. I’ll pass and I have purchased lots of their products I actually live about 15 miles from them I had visited their warehouse thinking it was an actual store but the guys where cool about it. This dude didn’t even want to remove the barrel from the slide and on the website they have an option where they will install it for you I wouldn’t let this guy do it.
looks like the juice is not worth the squeeze.. also, i'll never understand how people comfortably film their hands when they really need to trim their nails. thanks for the vid