M1 vs A14X iPad Pro - The TRUTH 

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“Just love all your children equally” lmao I legit cracked up

It’s weird how I want a faster cpu in my iPad just so I can open the RU-vid app 😂

It can have 10 m1 chips but if no pro apps then pointless I had 2018 iPad Pro so won’t be upgrading until apple release pro apps software needs to match the hardware

I just realized I am wasting my internet data to listen to leaks that won’t happen

What will the iPad do with M1 if it also keeps the iPadOS..? For about 2 years now (may be more) the OS is holding back the iPad not the hardware.

I hear Rinie talking for hours but always understand too little

If the m1 can be binned to fill iPad Pro with lower bin chips it may be more cost efficient to reuse m1 rather than a slightly smaller chip just for iPad.

I always thought it was absurd that they would put the M1 into the iPad Pro. The M1 almost certainly has components that are totally unnecessary for it, even for the Pro model.

Loving these under-10-minute videos!

With the M1/A14X, will the iPad Pro be able to run Big Sur? Is that the endgame?

Dude, a honest feedback and suggestion. Please talk straight to the point and then you can elaborate the history of it. You make very confusing by mixing up all information and talking to point somewhere in middle. Your presentation needs to be structured for clarity as a viewer. Hope you take positively.

The iPad Pro will continue to get held back by software, there’s nothing on the iPad Pro that couldn't run on an entry level iPad. Developers want their apps and software on all iPads, they won’t make iPad Pro specific apps for the most expensive iPad.

0:01 Rene Ritchie: iPad Pro with M1 give it to me now Apple: Sure here you go, we also added Mini led, 5G, thunderbolt along with M1 enjoy!

I like how the transition to the Ting sponsorship caused Rene’s arms to rise up behind the graphic. I'm hoping for an iPad Pro HDR - for a low cost colour grading on the Mac via Sidecar

This didn’t age well did it?

Love your videos! I’ve been watching you on macbreak weekly for a few years and it’s definitely a little odd to hear you talk so slowly! (not that that’s bad. It’s just something I noticed)

nice transition at the end there from the upcoming Apple product cost, saving money, then right into the add. Advertisers must love you Rene.

I don't think the a14x will have the exact same performance as the m1, but it will come close. Let me explain. You see the a12 and a12x were both clocked at 2.5ghz, and had the same amount of cache. However, the a14 bionic is clocked at 3 ghz and had 8mb of l2 cache for the performance cores, where as the m1 is clocked at 3.2 ghz and has 12 mb of l2 cache for the performance cores. So I speculate that the a14x will have the same clock speed and cache as the a14 bionic. Also, combined with the thermal and power constraints of the iPad, it won't be as powerful as the m1, but burst performance will certainly come close to the m1 MacBook air. I expect it to have significantly less sustained performance than the m1 and most likely only having the 7 core gpu, probably down clocked and TDP downed slight. Don't know about ram, but I could see apple doing something where it's 6gb on most models but maybe 8gb on the top storage model. Either way, this is going to be an insanely powerful tablet.

Originally apple introduced A14 Bionic Chip with iPad Air (4th generation)

Unless there’s gonna be new software to take advantage of it, there’s literally nothing my 2018 iPad Pro 11” can’t handle right now. iPadOS and the apps it allows is holding back the iPad’s potential

More memory in the new chip already so I don’t log out of my accounts in Safari tabs please? 🙄 The fact I have to keep asking this means the iPad Pro is not the computer I wanted it to be

In all honesty, I don't really see the point of M1 in iPad Pro? Like, sure, it would be nice to have that extra power just because but do we really need it? There aren't many apps at all on iPad that really stresses the A12X. And a simple step-up to A14X would be more than enough power for 99% or users. Is it really worth it?

I think people who haven’t studied the human computer or the mirochip as detailed by old educational IBM videos don’t truely appreciate chip design or chip architecture

If Apple put the M1 in the iPad Pro then Mac OS should be able to hacked in... and then we’d have a touch-screen Mac.

I'm getting the 2021 12.9" iPad Pro regardless of what they call its CPU. It's gonna be a beast of a tablet.

Also, I don't see the point of M1 iPad Pro until we have a Pro App Suite for iPad. Final Cut Pro, Logic X Pro, these are apps we need on iPad Pro to justify the upgrade.

The code name cores you gave the Apple chips is a neat character to them 👍

Idk I recently got the 2020 and it's doing fine. Maybe you can wait til the 3000 ipad master with built in toothbrush

And now, m1 ipad pro does exist...

The “problem “ with the iPad Pro is that it is way faster than what most of us need it to be at the moment and the only reason I am writing this comment on a 2018 12.9 model bought this year instead of the 2015 model I had been using as my main device until the purchase of my m1 MacBook Air was because I could get it at a very great discount and because it had considerable more storage than my gen 1 unit. A new 2021 model with all the things the rumors think it will come with would not be of interest to me even if I had not invested in the 2018 model recently as I would be more interested in adding a high quality display to my m1 than in an iPad that is even faster than the 2018 model when the 2015 model was fast enough for my use case. Love your videos though and are rooting for the small percentage of iPad users who could use a faster iPad Pro with a better screen. I however would prefer to spent my money on a minlLED high quality stand alone display for my MacBook Air than an for my use case ridiculous fast 2021 iPad Pro

I came back here to read new comments

I want an iPad Pro with a M1 chip and the ability to run OS X

As apple charging MacBook prices for the iPad Pro models they should let us run pro apps and give us the choice of if we want MacBooks or the smaller form iPad

Rene gettin' SLICK with the transitions, dagnammit!

That seqway to the sponsor was smoother than LTT

5$ per GB !!!!!!!! For less then 3$ you can get 1.5GB data per day for entire month here in India.

Great video explaining a complex issue clearly. Thanks.

I suggest to Apple that after next Mac Pro mini desktop and Mini, to have slide out motherboard, so you can swap out a m1 and slide in a m1x or M2 etc. That way they can just sell an upgrade rather than a whole system. They would save on production cost and constant new design costs for case and system design for next 5 years. I’d rather pay for a swappable mobi that has cpu/GPU plus storage and ram for $300-$700 for top tier specs. Also, they could sell upgraded power supply adapters.

And the M1 happened for the new iPad just like some of us thought it would. 12.9 1 TB 16 gb ram waiting to order next week.

Rene you’re a genius. Love the way you explain things.

Honestly I feel like Apple might put the m1 chip in the iPad Pro and just call it the A14X but keep the chip the same

You’ve got what you wanted 😃 M1 and Thunderbolt. Great explaining of the chipsets thanks for your video!

Apple has internal and external customers. Those iPads and Macs are customers of the processor chips

All of the iPads are still primarily media consumption devices. Very few people who have an option between a computer with a dedicated keyboard or an iPad are ever going to choose an iPad for production. Part of it is the file system and how locked down adding for sending receiving documents to an iPad is. The expense of internal storage and the hassle of attempting to attach external storage to an iPad exacerbates this. I don’t think high and laptop and desktop chips are necessarily needed and iPads.

Isn't it one thunderbolt controller with two ports? The 9980HK in my 16" MacBook Pro has two thunderbolt controllers, one each for the ports on each side of the laptop. So for example, if I want to connect 4 external monitors to it, I have 3, I have to do two on either side, but I can use an adapter to connect 2 monitors to one port.

if apple would just let you fucking multitask on a massive 12.9 inch screen without jumping through 50 hoops that would be cool too

Don’t you mean added three graphic cores as one of them was disabled on the A12X? 🤔

You have the best giggles!

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Yep, still the best Apple content on this site

Excel macros on iPad would be nice. Otherwise what’s the point?

Increible review, finally they released their iPad M1 a year later… M1 are a15cpus correctly clocked.. just look at the comparision a12x (2018 iPad Pro with a dedicate gpu) vs a15 (no x ver. released), only 10-15% improved performance vs a 3yo cpu, and then you have from a15 to m1 40%performance increase?… also if you compare iPad M1 vs MacBook M1, MacBook has like a 20% better performance wtf?? Why they underclock the cpu on iPad?

I thought you were talking about 0.3% of my viewers aren’t subscribed when you said 0.3

How funny would it be if they brought a graph out showing how many people do NOT use the full potential of the chip and put the same chip in the new iPad! 😂 People would go mad!

So essentially it's mostly just semantics, right? Not M1 because that's just the name threy slapped on, but the bones will be pretty identical?

Can I get an M32X??? Give me all the cores!!

M1 smashed intel. A14X will just put the A12Z to shame !

Excellent breakdown!

What does it matter without Final Cut?

Wow ! Love the detective work !

Codename for CPU on A14 is really Unique

I wonder if Apple simply makes the A14x like the entry M1: if cores (or unneeded parts) are broken they become iPad chips.

There is no reason Apple can't let you run Catalina on the iPad since you can run iOS apps on the Air.

Apple: "Oh shoot. Find another name. Rene figured it out..." Just buy SoftRAM.

Hmm, lots of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

An ipad pro that can both run iOS and Mac OS would be a total killer.

I hope they offer iPad Pro with 8/16 like the Mac.

I hope 256gb ROM is going to be the new standard. Then I would buy it since I am not ready to pay a lot more xD

If Apple ever had any intention to place an M1 into an iPad, I think they would have simply put an 12Z into the Macbook instead. There are similarities, but each OS has a unique architecture, it should be a unique, dedicated product SoC.

I don’t know what all the confusion is all about. Apple CLEARLY stated that the line of chips for the Mac is exclusively FOR the Mac, and not for anything else. There might not be too much difference between the current generations of M chips, and A chips. But there are notable differences. They can’t market an iPad Pro chip with Mac chip branding. That would really confuse everyone, and would seem as though Apple was going back on its word.

You are wrong. 1 TB ipad pro had 8 GB ram, not 6

Hi, from the future here, I can confirm you read apple’s mind.

What about energy efficiency? Currently using the iPad 2018 Pro. So by using the „new“ chip set, would just a slightly better expectable but at the same time an improved energy efficiency?

Love your proposed names, BrainStorm and ShaderStorm. The iPad Pro SoC will be called an A14X/Z. M1 chips that fail testing on thunderbolt or emulation acceleration modules could be repurposed as A14X/Z chips. Whether or not they sell enough iPad Pros to justify creating a mask without those components is questionable. Probably not a significant difference in chips per wafer. So the cost savings might not outweigh just binning and disabling those extra modules.

Love your children accordingly 😂😂

Love's your video ❤️

I mean, it’s called M1 for mac right? Why would it be in the iPad?

It doesn’t matter 99% of the people that use these don’t use them to their maximum potential. Same with the iPhones and Apple isn’t innovating in ways that bring new experiences and ways to interface with tech to people like they used to but rather play the yearly numbers bump game like samsung has been doing for years.

They’re the same cpu

Apple has to pay Intel a royalty for every Thunderbolt controller they sell. They would never, ever put a Thunderbolt-capable chip into a device that doesn't need it. Even if the A14X lacks only the TBolt controllers compared to the M1, it's still worth it for Apple, especially when you look at sales figures.

The M1 is the A14X, the A14X is gonna be the M1. Some of the coprocessors are gonna be different but the CPU and GPU are gonna be identical.

The iPad Pro will come with an M1 or M1x only if Apple releases XCode/FCX/LogicPro. I don’t see the need for so much power if you don’t have pro apps to work the device with.

As Rene explains. The A# SoC designs were scaled up a bit to become the M1. Apple Silicon is an entire family of SoC designs. It's all about the thermal and size constraints for each product. Apple is making bespoke Apple Silicon SoC designs for each product. Apple implied that the M1 was originally designed for the MacBook Air but when they added active cooling even they were so surprised at the results from the unified memory they also put it in an entry level Mac Mini and 13" MacBook Pro. The next level of Apple Silicon will no doubt add more CPU / GPU cores and more RAM. I seriously doubt they will even use discrete AMD GPU's as the unified RAM eliminates the need for an external GPU with it's own high speed RAM sitting out on a PCIe bus. That's like trucking your work down the highway to a factory and trucking the results back to the corporate headquarters. That's a lot of overhead. The size of the die on an iMac and the Mac Pro can be significantly larger than the M1. What's next beyond 2022 will be 3nm and kicking things up to a whole new level. Going from 5nm to 3nm saves even more power and increases transistor density further improving performance. Going from 7nm to 5nm produced about a 27% improvement overall. We will likely start seeing radical new product case designs as various limitation are no longer limitations for Mac's. When designing processors it takes at least 3-5 years of R&D, there's a whole lineup of designs coming. Apple's been busy on this for several years. Easier because they already had the basic design in the A# SoC. This is why Intel and AMD are so very screwed, it will take them that long but likely longer to catch up to where Apple is today with the M1 let alone where Apple will be at that time. This is going to prove to be just as highly disruptive as the iPhone was when it launched. This is the next new thing. Right now, heads are exploding across the entire PC market. They are all now in a mad scramble and if they are not, they are in very deep denial.

You were RONG!!...

The iPad Pro is basically fucked then. They won’t give it the respect it deserves. They’ll under power it again. So Evil.

I do not believe rumors so I don't think there's gonna be a A14X

Would there be a upgrade for the ipad magic keyboard? I have been searching everywhere for that update.

iPhone 13 will Have Storm Core in CPU and GPU that work better with AI and Camera like Better Lidar, Better Camera even for Video and Better FaceID with much Less Battery and much less RAM. Work.

get rid of the ting ending. good analysis thanks

Yeah, the M1 in an iPad wouldn’t make sense as it’s a laptop/small desktop CPU. Also an iPad shouldn’t be as powerful as a MacBook.

The M1 also has a GPU that appears to macOS as a macOS MetalFamilyGPU for Metal, OpenCL OpenGL and perhaps some other legacy Frameworks, something that none of the A-series chips do. That may be why Apple hasn't named the cores on the GPU. There's a good chance that they're NOT identical cores to the A-series cores.

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What we need on the new IPad Pro is simple. thunderbold and more USB C port and a headphone jack.I don’t care about there front cameras.It’s a waste of space!!!!(maybe one for LIDAR) Use the extra space for better wireless antenna or extra graphics processor.Not upgrading if that is what they are offering.(marketing BS) Just my IPad Pro user opinion.

M could also be for “Mobile”

Rene, I'm planning to buy an ipad Air 4 to complement the M1 macbook air. Don't wanna spend a lot on an iPad Pro. Would you recommend the air or the vanilla ipad ?

I'm confused. isn't M1 just a Mac version OF the iPad silicon? so putting M1 into an iPad would just mean the same performance? where's this idea come from that it will double iPad performance like it did with the Mac?

people dying of covid 19 and you worry about if apple will use M1 chip on Ipad pro?!

The M1 is a Desktop processor with x86 instructions. The A processor is a Mobile processor with instructions for iPad. The iPad has no use for x86 instructions. Answer iPad doesn't need and wouldn't benefit from M1.