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You're wrong about the SSD speed in the 256 gig the M2 ipad pro 256g has been slowed down just like the M2 air with speeds of 1500 for right and 1,480 for read !
A big thing for me is the sheer pleasure of using the device. The iPad Pro is just a lot more pleasurable to use with its touch interface, connecting you direct to whatever you are doing rather than through a touchpad or mouse. Plus the flexibility of the device to use as tablet when not working. Tech reviewers love to say that the iPad software is dumbed down, but for what most people do it every day use, that simpler software is an advantage to get what you want done without extra complications. I have used an iPad Pro, as my main device for the last five years, running an international business, plus photo and video editing, and playing music, and watching video and web browsing. It just provides everything I need.
I need to ask you if you ever need to search for stuff in the files? I do purchase ordering and can't use my iPad for it. If I open up the finder to search for a part I ordered in a purchase order, it can't find it. It just finds the words of the title of the order itself. It can't find a part in the actual order that I make (PDF's). This is there one reason, I think the iPad in not "Pro" They need to add this support.
Interested to hear more about what tasks you do on the iPad to run your business? Is it mostly productivity and communication type things (email, messaging, notes, calls, etc.)?
@@MikeJones-oe3do Yes, exactly. I ended up buying a 2015 15 inch MacBook Pro for like 350 bucks just so I have something to use at work. It’s a shame that my $2300 iPad Pro can’t do that. Makes me wonder why I wasted all my money on it but it is what it is.
I have the same doubt.....I'm planning to buy MacBook Air...but I like the iPad pro with apple pencil much more .....I'm normal user ....would you suggest me to go for iPad pro or should I play safe and get a MacBook. Your thoughts ?
It's impressive how much performance is packed up in such a small device. IPAD M2 is like a Ferrari running in Traffic. Apple needs to step up the software game.
The geekbench numbers for the M2 put it close to Intel's HEDT platform from 2017. I know that doesn't mean that it's as fast and performant as those processors... but it's really crazy to think that a chip designed to be in a massive workstation tower is in the same ballpark as tablet SOC 5 years in the future. It's also hard to believe because of how badly iPadOS (and the apps on it) holds back the M2.
@@descendency iPad M1/M2 can smoothly run macOS including all its software. I hope that Samsung and Microsoft work together to integrate windows into their tablets. That’s the only way to push Apple to get serious about iPadOS
I could literally buy a used iPad Pro 11 128gb with A12Z and a used M1 MacBook Air 256 for the same Price as one iPad Pro 12,9 128GB. That‘s just insane how incredibly overpriced the new iPad Pro is.
i have almost this same combo, refurb 12.9” 2018 ipad pro & m1 macbook air base model. it cost much less than a new 12.9” w keyboard & pencil. plus i have Mac OS capability
I have both. The iPad is essential to me for media consumption and drawing (procreate), and most of my email and internet activity. The Mac does database and web development, and some of my writing (I’m a writer). So, both make it work for me, each doing what it does better than the other. Sent from my iPad!
Agreed! Both devices have their own distinct uses. As a teacher, the iPad is great for lessons- I use it instead of writing on a white board. It also helps me model what I want students to do on their own devices. The computer helps me with word processing (forms and plans), using spreadsheets, video conferencing, and other web-based programs. Pretty much everything else the iPad isn’t used for. For many people, buying both products can’t be justified and I will always suggest buying a computer over a tablet simply because of the current incapabilities in iPad OS.
@@itsjohnny4267 I only had an iPad before a MacBook because I already had a PC for computer functions… I do think you need any kind of computer first but now with an iPad / MacBook combo the workflow is very neat.
As someone who does a lot of creative writing I'm debating which to get some I have a smaller form factor over my hefty Pro laptop. Would you still pick the Macbook Air for writing over an iPad with keyboard?
The ipad is still primarily a media consumption device. Reading articles, taking notes and drawing works really well. But I've yet to see anyone use an ipad pro as their primary work machine.
✋🏻Yup! I use mine for drawing/ painting with my pencil and media consumption. No major work on it. Use my MBP for that. Then I use my iPad as an extra monitor.
I used my IPad Pro 12.9” 2nd Gen for productivity for about 95% of my work, only missing minor PDF and file management and some easier editing work. Liked the screen and portability.
I think the iPad is easier and computer is needed only when you hit some wall… like “I need to format this drive” or “there still not a (good) app for this”,
Like every year, the answer to the question on whether iPads can replace MacBooks is… it depends, and really it doesn’t matter. Some people can and some people can’t. But that isn’t a bad thing because you should buy the tool that works best for you. If you reverse the question and ask whether a MacBook can be an iPad replacement, I’d say the answer is also maybe. Buy what you like.
Wow the iPad speakers sound so good. And as someone who has one I can say it’s not too far behind the 14” MacBook Pro I have. But not quite there yet. It’s just so crazy that I have a TABLET that’s faster than not only any other tablet, but 98% of laptops! Great vid as usual. Max Tech is the 🐐!!
I waffled back and forth when getting my M1 iPad 13” as to whether a MacBook Air or iPad would be better. I decided that, for me, the iPad with the Logitech Combo Touch would be more flexible. I’m able to do most everything that I need on it. However, when I find that I need more power or desktop-level apps, I can use Splashtop to connect to my Mac Mini (from wherever I’m at) and use those higher-level apps. It has worked well over this past year, giving me the best of both worlds.
I guess I'm looking forward, and noticing that iPad Pros could be the next "all-in-one" device. The flexibility that they provide is insane. I have a laptop, but wanted a tablet size form factor. So the iPad Pro 11" M2 wound up being the device I purchased. But if I'm the future, they release an iPad Mini Pro, I will definitely buy that one when released. For the time being, the iPad Pro 11" M2 will be absolutely sufficient for my personal needs.
I have a powerful gaming PC with a massive monitor and I needed something for portability. I ended up choosing an iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard 12.9 over M2 MacBook Air and I absolutely love it. It is so much more fun to use than a computer.
Excellent review. I recently bought both, I know I am fortunate, but I use both throughout the day for different situations. If I could only have one, it would be the MacBook Air.
To be fair, as far as authentication goes, The Apple Watch can also serve as a way to authenticate you on the Mac and have you log in automatically, so in that respect it is faster than FaceID (since you have to swipe up on the iPad to login)
My M1 iPad Pro has replaced my old MacBook. It’s an awesome machine that is artificially limited by Apple. It will do almost everything most people need
Pretty good, something you could add is using them in a dock like setup. Setting both up with an external monitor, mouse, keyboard & dock. I imagine using an iPad Pro like a laptop connected to its dock(for using numbers, pages, working) with a mouse & keyboard then disconnecting it for media consumption(RU-vid, social media, games etc.) when you leave your desk. I think the external monitor support & functionality on the iPad would be important in this use case. Although I think right now you might need 16.2 beta. If you find this idea interesting enough you could do it when 16.2 goes public or whatever version ends up with monitor support & stage manager. 👍
I bought the new M2 iPad and I have zero complaints. I use it for studying and is perfect for my use and the user experience I find more satisfying then my MacBook Pro.
@@saiiiii8683 it last me a day from studying at 8 am - 4 pm and watching videos and playing games in the evening // I recon 10/12 hours of nonstop use depending on the screen brightness
Unless you need the Apple Pencil, comparing 512GB models, to get the iPad Pro 12.9 with Magic Keyboard you’re gonna spend nearly the same for the significantly more powerful and functional base 14” MacBook Pro with current deals. Both are miniLED 120Hz displays, but the 14” MBP gets you bigger display, much more connectivity, better speakers, and full featured OS. I have the M1 12.9 iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard and the M1 MacBook Air, and I basically only use the iPad for watching videos/movies.
Apple simply wants you to have to purchase both devices. There is no reason to cripple the Ipad transfer speeds or prevent it from using Mac OS. It's why some people, including me, purchase Surface Pro's instead. The Apple Ipad hardware is a little better, but it is crippled by the OS.
Exactly! I am going Surface Pro next go around. It ends up being cheaper than if you were to buy an ipad pro and macbook air. Especially when the Surface Pro goes on sale.
@@Michael-ur5qb Yes, the Surface Pro 8 on upcoming sales should be a great value. The 9 is only a small upgrade, so a good opportunity to get a bargain.
For me personally im in a weird position where i prefer to work on a pc but prefer the apple eco system. i do engineering for work but i draw for fun. i might just go with the ipad and hope it gets better since it has a lot of potential software wise. An iPad could become a Macbook replacement one day but a Macbook could never replace an iPad.
I think the question shouldn’t be can the iPad be a laptop but are laptops still necessary because the iPad can do what most people use a laptop for anyway which is videos web browsing and light gaming and it is a lot easier for those who have difficulty using a computer and I think the reason a lot of people don’t like the iPad is they try to make it a laptop instead of a really really good tablet which is what it is
Nice. I would love to see a Stage Manager multitask comparison between the iPads. If you have a desktop, newer iPads are a perfect addition, I just wonder how they would handle serious multitasking. On my Mac Mini 16Gb, memory pressure stays yellow most of the time.
I bought the M1 MacBook Air out of necessity for the very few things it does that my iPad Pro cannot and not because I like using the Macbook. I wish I could get rid of it. What’s frustrating is that the iPads limitations are 100% software and could all be remedied with a software update.
There is a part of me that thinks that adding MacOS to the iPad would totally drain the battery. I do think this could potentially one reason that this hasn’t happened in addition to Apple not wanting iPads to cannibalize MacBooks. I could be totally off with this assessment, but believe there may be some merit to this reasoning.
Hardware-wise, huge compromises have been made to the iPads aside from the battery in order to keep the size and weight down. They really are two very different animals despite sharing some important hardware. Kind of like how you can find a Honda Civic engine in an Ariel Atom. Well... is it fast.. yes. But compromises have been made as well - hope you like no effective windscreen, heater, roof...
Apple never wants iPad Pro as Macbook equivalent even if they have similar chips. You know it is marketing concerns. Apple wants you to buy Macbook too so they limit iPad software between an iphone and Macbook.
While the iPad has vastly improved in utility over the years, and can be configured the same as a basic work laptop, it's still not a great laptop if typing is your primary input. The Pencil is the reason for the iPad, for content creators. The iPad excels as a drawing tablet. Pro/Con: iOS has its own ecosystem of apps, many of which are not on MacOS, and are essentially built around touch/draw interface. With M chip iPads, there doesn't seem to be any reason not to be able to run MacOS/apps, but it is what it is. Two different tools for different sets of use cases, with a fair amount of overlap in-between. If you can only buy/carry one, the question is: "Do you mostly type, or do you mostly draw?"
Thank you for the comparison but each point is debatable based on the use each person makes of each model. For me, I use mail, web and MS office and IOS office does not run VBA files ( files with macros ) and opening and closing a file is an import and export procedure and you lose a lot of functions in your files during this process. Therefore I just ordered a well equipped MacBook Air. If the IPad Pro would of operated the MS office files similarly to MacOS, then for sure I would of taken an IPad Pro. I’m sure it’s a question of time where IPad will operate like a Mac but we’re just not there yet.
@Max Tech I really enjoy and appreciate your reviews. I really hope and wish you would add an additional sound test / comparison of talking only. So playing one of your previous videos to give a sound impression of a podcast or video with just talking. Thanks!
I chose M1 iPad Pro + magic keyboard + apple pencil over Macbook back in 2021 and i never regretted. it actually is a mini laptop for me and does even more than any laptop can do thanks to apple pencil. it offers so much, i don't see a reason why would i need a macbook if i have to choose between the 2. especially for my needs.
As a tech reviewer I don’t see how you guys miss the ipad critical use cases as it can be a cellular device for 20$ a month unlimited..it can be used anywhere and everywhere without connecting to Wi-Fi.it has its own number to connect to other people.FaceTime etc.it can be used with your AirPod maxes instantaneously..i believe the iPad wins off ease of use..
Very helpful and practical comparison. Artist here. I need my laptop replacement to be able to sketch. The iPad Pro is great for that but does not run the main digital painting app. I use (Rebelle). Would love to be able to have my Mac Mini as my desktop and iPad Pro as my laptop/tablet without having a Macbook which is not sketch capable but works great with pen tablet and pen display. I still have the iPad Pro 4th Gen and will not be getting the M2 iPad Pro (maybe the M3). Main deal breaker-the portrait front camera is barely useable for zoom etc. due to being annoying for someone to not look at you hardly at all while talking. Also, the file manager is OK but also annoying as stated in the video. So, the iPad Pro not there yet for laptop replacement for me.
Logitech Combo Touch Case/Keyboard/Trackpad is better than Apple's existing offering for iPad Pro - offers more protection, has function keys, separates from the device while retaining kickstand - funny how similar Apple's new iPad keyboard is to it...
So, in summary (w/o any politeness filter applied): - Ipad: heavier than a M2 macbook air; top-heavy when used with a magic-keyboard; charging speed is terrible, battery life is terrible, no full OSX support, thicker than a macbook M2! - Macbook air M2: screen in 2022 standards is abysmal (WTH, Apple?); speakers suck I could live with the bad speakers of the macbook air M2, but the screen is such a massive fail, I wouldn't even buy this device when it was 50% cheaper. Conclusion: The *only* way to go is the 14" macbook pro. Excellent screen, good speakers, battery & performance is really good. I wish, Apple would offer the M2 macbook air with a better screen.
Hey Max & team, thank you for your hard work! I love your in depth videos, but this video lacked some valid points in my opinion. For example you didn’t mention that the letterboxed area of the screen of the iPad Pro is much smaller when watching videos because of the aspect ratio. Your standard 16:9 video just looks much wider on the MacBook Air and I much prefer that, despite the inferior display quality. Secondly you didn’t talk about the big plus for the iPad that one can buy a 5G version, which you you obviously don’t get on the MacBook Air. Keep up your good quality! All the best, take care.
Thank you for a great comparison. I love the easy use of some of the iPad apps (LumaFusion for example) and the handholding for reading. But more and more I am getting sick of the shortcomings on the iPad. I agree with you that some of those shortcomings like the disastrous files app must be intentional as they would be easy to fix. I own the last gen MacBook Air and it was already good. The new one looks like the perfect end of a long evolution. There is not a lot of room to improve. It may be time to leave the iPad behind 😢
The problem with iPadOS for me, is the browsers. I work on developing/administering business platforms (SharePoint Online, Dynamics and Salesforce) and I can't do it using the browsers on the iPad, even when requesting the Desktop Sites. I need MacOS in order to use a device for work.
I was so disillusioned by my maxed out M2 iPad Pro 12.9 that I returned it and got a Max Studio instead. The software limitations (especially the horrendous mouse acceleration), the weight (a complete setup weighed more than my company issued 14'' MacBook Pro), etc. etc. made it not worth the price. The Mac Studio (max version not ultra) is priced in the same range as the iPad Pro but it offers so much more productivity-wise
I say despite its shortcomings, I think the M2 IPad Pro would be a great pick for me. I orginally wanted a new tablet to replace my Samsung Tab S5e for media consumption and mobile gaming. However, I started learning on how effective the Apple Desktop chips can do for productivity such as photo/video editing. I normal do all my editing on one of my window desktops PCs, however I am not a expert at the software so it takes a while for me. Having the power of the M2 chip on a tablet size form is honestly amazing for me because I can edit content on the go and can still be much faster than a regular windows desktop. Sure the editing software on Ipad is not the full coverage of the desktop counterparts, but for simple editing for videos in YT or Tiktok, it can really make things easier for me to produce them. Overall, I am picking up the M2 IPad Pro for my tablet replacement but also being a powerful All in One device.
There are many features about the iPad I like, but the iPad Pages app is annoying to me. I wish they would use a menu system like on the full program or, better yet, display the menus similar to Word.
While iPad have iPadOs there's really nothing to compare. A professional would buy always a macos/windows machine for the much more endless possibilities these machines can offer. But as a secondary device it's perfect.
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It's kind of sad that apple doesen't make convertibles like other brands. The macbook would be perfect if it could be bought with at least a toch screen. The problem is that you either get an ipad, which is amazing for note taking and some more casual tasks or an macbook, which is great at more professional oriented tasks like video editing, but lacks any useful functionality as anything more than a boring laptop. Editing videos, photos etc on an ipad is possible, but the apps are significantly more limited and not for professional use, compared to their PC / mac counterparts.
I’m just here just to check how much ip can replace mb. Tablet is tablet. Whatever it can do laptop work is bonus. Ip already is the king in writing,reading and drawing departments.
Apple needs to start thinking about cramming MacOS and iOS into a single package with 2 different operation modes (Mac style and Tablet style). If this sounds like an Apple Lisa, it's because that's exactly what they should be doing. At the logic board level a Mac and an iPad are becoming frustratingly the same!
I really wonder what was in their head when they decided to add 2 cameras on the back of the Ipad. who goes out and take pictures with an Ipad???? on this form factor having a phenomenal front facing camera makes sense .. the back camera is almost useless
Max, I tip my hat for your storage speed test. This is incredibly useful for us that have to take a machine on the go, I use my M1 Air mostly as a backup machine when traveling. Keep these tests please. And thank you for spending your time doing this. (It is a shame Apple is crippling the Thunderbolt port on the iPad, that thing would be wonderful as a off-the-beaten-path backup solution). Cheers.
Which one to buy? Neither. The M2 is a waste of money. Mac: Buy a used/refurbished M1 MacBook Air or a 14" MacBook Pro if you really need more power. iPad: Buy an M1 model or even a 2020 Pro model. IPadOS doesn't really use the M1 effectively and the 2020 model has the same display, case and form factor and is plenty quick.
It's unfortunate Apple intentionally hinders the Ipad Pros from becoming full out Mac replacements. This is most likely because of a business decision by Apple to keep the Mac sales going which actually doesn't make sense when you dig into the facts about it. Ipads are more than powerful enough to run anythimg a Mac can run and I use my iPad as my main primary device and as a music producer I absolutely love it. If Apple would actually bring more professional Apps to the iPad it could easily replace a MacBook. Infact when I go back to use a tesdional Mac OS system I find it outdated and old and prefer the layout of iPad OS. Laptops in general are getting old and outdated and really believe Tablets are the future when it comes to mobile computers
As much as I love my m1 iPad Pro, I still much prefer my m2 air MacBook for everyday usage. Though I do love using my iPad to watch Netflix in the kitchen while I’m cooking, it definitely has some fantastic speakers.
Short answer for me, no. Because it doesn't have Logic, MainStage or 3rd party plugin support so for me in the "pro" music world, doesn't apply. It might be great for other kind of pros but not us in the music world.
I feel like I misheard but how do you download and use Lightroom for iPad on the MacBook? im trying to reduce the monthly cost and get a $4.99 plan that ill mostly use on the iPad but occasionally on the MacBook Air m2.
Thank you for the Review i have the both M2 iPad pro and M2 MacBook air it works seamlessly for me using universal control watched your video and bought it
The two iPad dealbreakers for me? Corrupted external SSD drives, & inadequate file management. So long as iPads are plagued with these issues, they are not even a consideration.
I didn’t get. So, is there any dependency in storage value and read/write speed? At the moment I don’t have an iPad, but I want to buy one with M2 chip. But I don’t want to face with this SSD-issue as I can in MacBooks. Internal speed is a very hot topic for me.
As a owner of the iPad Pro & the MacBook, I personally would choose the MacBook Air over the M2 iPad Pro, iPads are great but the MacBook Air M2 is awesome. I have been using the iPhone 14 Pro Max 512GB over a month now & it was a good upgrade from my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
May I ask why you prefer the macbook air over ipad pro? I also have an ipad pro, but have a malfunctioning, older non-mac laptop. I’m still contemplating whether I need to invest on a macbook when I already have an iPad Pro. Any comments would be welcome
I’m looking at the (rumoured at this date) 2024 12.9”iPad Air vs the 2022 12.9” iPad Pro. Both have the M2 but the Pro will have ProMotion. I’m concerned about the FaceTime camera on the 2022 Pro. But can you compare the two and suggest what might be best? Mostly web surfing (6-8 tabs), media consumption, photo editing but not pro level.
This has convinced me to m go for a lower spec iPad and get an external drive and spend the saved money on a new Mac Book if they are even gonna be worth it
Ummm its not 50% faster at 13.25 its 28% just saying. You also showed the m2 is throttled down in the ipad so I am guessing its held back on ipad os just another observation.
I recently bought an iPad Air M1 256gb, a Logitech combo keyboard case, and an Apple Pencil 2nd gen. With Amazon’s recent sale on iPad-related products, I got all that for $890 USD, compared to a M1 macbook air which is currently on sale on Amazon for $800. Those extra $90 got me - the ability to easily convert my laptop into a tablet - a touch screen in both laptop and tablet mode - a great tool for drawing, which is something I was never good at and gave up on in high school but I’m actually having fun with again when I’ve got an Apple Pencil - a better lap experience than my Windows laptop, since I like to sit with one leg crossed over the other and the Logitech stand works GREAT for that Subtract the Apple Pencil if I didn’t decide I wanted to get into drawing, and the prices are equal, so it’s a choice between a bigger display or having a tablet mode.
Instead of buying a new ipad pro + magic keyboard, you can buy MacBook Pro 14’ has the same XDR screen, better speakers and more usefulness, in a similar price.
I got a iPad Pro awhile back and it is the most disappointing of all my Apple purchases. It was to be my device for my practice area for music and it ended up mainly just being used for Zoom and some music app's. iPadOS was on of the major PIA and big reason I would go back to my iMac for everything else. So I bought a Macbook Air M2 a lot so I could trying a M-series SoC and I instantly found myself using the MBA M2 all the time way more than my iPad Pro. I can do more with the MBA for recording music, making videos, basic office type work, and even just watching video and listening to music. With iPad I would try to set in a gaming chair and watch music tutorial video or do ear training apps and the iPad even in the keyboard folder was a pain to stay in a usable position. Using the MBA M2 it just sits there in place and easy to move screen to any angle I want. As for sound from the device I would say they are about the same except I disagree with you I find the stereo separation even better on the MBA M2. Since I'm a musician if I really want to do serious listening to music with my MBA M2 I use headphones. Also with the MBA M2 I can run full version of Ableton Live and do recording in my practice area or remotely, nore of the full DAWs run on iPad. So I am extremely happy with my MBA M2 I mainly bought it because I needed something small and wanting to tryout a M-series chip. I find myself using the MBA M2 all time and even using it for some things I was doing on my iMac because of its handy size. So no more iPad's for me. If Apple does make a OSX for iPad that will make a big difference, but for me I'm going to stick with MacBook's instead.
I also do music and MuseScore, Acrobat Pro, and many other things simply work properly on MacOS, as they always have. Not odd kludges, work-arounds, and hoping things convert - just open and go as designed. Also, many people forget that Adobe got its start on Mac and its products still work best on MacOS. PAying good money for 3/4 of the program is not my first choice, but that's what the app store usually gets you.
Great review, I found it very clear and very helpful, thanks! I was considering the iPad Pro for my principle work device vs. the Macbook Air but will definitely now go for the latter.
Just so you know, since the 2022 Adobe Max, Lightroom CC on Mac and Windows gained GPU Acceleration for exports but the iPad didn't (it did not even get anything new in Photoshop and LR still lacks many features from the Desktop version without any reason, Adobe is restricting the iPad voluntary...). From what we saw before this new version of LR, the iPad Pro M1 was faster than the Macbook Airs and Pros M1 on exports meaning that when Adobe FINALLY upgrades the Mobile version for iPad, exporting files will likely become faster on the tablet than it is on the Laptops.
Also, there are many ways to increase an iPad's battery life, unlike MacBooks. An iPad, like an iPhone, has many customizable features that can increase its battery consumption, knowing how to use an iPad, again, like an iPhone, can dramatically change your usage of it. Oh and please stop telling people to buy a fast charge brick, it is destroying the battery! Learn how to charge your devices and only use fast charge when you need it..
Do you think that Applies is ditching Final Cut Pro for Davinci resolve?? I’ve looked into Davinci Resolve and I guess it works across the board from Apples to Windows and the pro edition is one time pay, so you don’t need subscriptions.
