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M2 Max MacBook Pro for Photographers & Filmmakers 

Tyler Stalman
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Apple's latest MacBook for creative professionals
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0:00 Intro
1:31 Advantages
2:20 DaVinci Resolve
4:57 Comparison
5:04 Final Cut Pro
8:40 AI
10:17 Guests

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@nightSean
@nightSean Год назад
This is easily the best comparison Ive ever seen. I really appreciate you showing the comparison through the process instead of render and export times!
@mross4321
@mross4321 Год назад
Dude the render and export time videos are so annoying. Anyone trying to get the cheapest macbook doesnt care about export times lol
@Tonellacam
@Tonellacam Год назад
@@mross4321 my thoughts exactly !!
@WYSbyAdamLash
@WYSbyAdamLash Год назад
Man, this is exactly what I was looking for. Other reviewers were only comparing export times, which don't matter as much as how fluid Final Cut or Resolve is during editing by adding multiple layers and noticing any skipped frames.
@zanettifranke2252
@zanettifranke2252 Год назад
very nice comparison! thats exactly what i felt with my m1pro 16". even without 6k footage it just stutters with effects and titles etc. i was mostly editing with hevc and h264. ill probably upgrade to the m2max with 64gb...how was temperature fan noise etc? still as silent as the m1s?
@ReidDesigns
@ReidDesigns Год назад
Been looking specifically to do more locally generative art and I think this has helped me decide whether to go M2 or to buy a refurbished M1 Max. I’m moving from intel so paying the little extra for the M2 might be a better buy right now. Thanks for this.
@YOUAREMYKIN
@YOUAREMYKIN Год назад
@stalman This is the most useful review for a filmmaker using Resolve! 100% it's all about the smooth playback experience and editing. Question: I shoot w Canon R5C on Canon RAW LT-do you know if the M1 Ultra Studio plays back Canon 8K RAW LT w conversion LUT smoothly in Davinci Resolve? I know you tested the R5C and Ultra Studio w FCP and I noticed that at 07:14 of this video the M2 plays RED RAW 6K smoothly, so that gave me some hope! Thank you.
@Fatthy
@Fatthy Год назад
I always wait for your review, I’ve always been using macs, but sometimes i find my self need to do some work tasks on 3dmax, is there any chance to use 3dmax on the M2 max and parallels
@MannyWalks
@MannyWalks Год назад
Coming from a Intel MCP 16", I think it's about time to upgrade 🤔 I was waiting for your review Tyler 😁🔥
@GrandpaSStudio
@GrandpaSStudio Год назад
thanks for your time Tyler!
@SebastianCristanchoYT
@SebastianCristanchoYT Год назад
Do you have a tutorial about your workflow going in between FCPX and DaVinci? I just bought DaVinci and looking to get started 🙂 Great video, btw! Loved the end interviews.
@crisrocchi2722
@crisrocchi2722 8 месяцев назад
Hi Tyler, can I ask you which display settings you use for video editing and color correction? I mean preset and frequency (proMotion, yes or not?). Thank you
@matthewtaruno
@matthewtaruno 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for mentioning that the fluidity of moving through the Motion VFX plugins in the interface is the most important! 100% agree and it's exactly what I am looking for in this sort of review. My M1 16" Pro struggles to play stacked MotionVFX plugins in Resolve. I hope the M2 Max or Ultra chips can solve this, such a pain in my workflow.
@coyote23b
@coyote23b Год назад
Thanks for the timeline review. Much more important than render times.
@joyKafka
@joyKafka Год назад
Exactly the comparison that I am looking for. Thank you a great deal.
@Geemantotal1
@Geemantotal1 Год назад
Really helpful. Can I ask where do you think the base MacBook Pro m2 pro sits. Is it better than the M1 Max?
@KyleFranko
@KyleFranko Год назад
I am MAINLY in doing lrC. I would be using as a display for my camera as well during shoots. Would you recommend going to the m2 max? I am coming from a much older version Samsung and will be my first Mac. Thank you
@97nelsn
@97nelsn Год назад
As someone who still has a Mid-2012 MacBook Pro 13 that turns 10 this March, I need this upgrade regardless of M2 Pro or M1 Pro.
@JohnDennery
@JohnDennery Год назад
I’m also still rocking a 2012!! This might finally be the year to upgrade but I’m still gonna film everything in 1080p 😂
@Aventurasdepelicula
@Aventurasdepelicula 2 месяца назад
thanks for this video man I know its been a min you did this. but im in the middle of upgrading and I wondering about the 4k or 6k footage for smooth editing in Final Cut. also what ram would you recommend ? how is the M3 pro in comparison. aloha.
@clensmedia6514
@clensmedia6514 Год назад
This is the review I have been looking for, I have finally made the decision to upgrade from my old but reliable i7 2015 MBP but I was agonising whether to go M2 Pro or Max. I think you have answered that question for me. Thanks a very good video.
Год назад
Really good summary compared to other reviews posted yesterday!
@studio28photography9
@studio28photography9 4 месяца назад
Great video ,I just bought one coming from windows what's the best color profiles to use or color preset for the monitor ?
@IainAnderson
@IainAnderson Год назад
Nice! You certainly found the point where the M1 Max can't keep up. One thing about those stress tests, because the extra effects were packaged as titles, that means that the additional effects are (I think!) applied to the timeline resolution (8K) rather than the clip resolution (6K) that they'd use if they were effects. While that makes the M2 Max all the more impressive, If you were working in a 4K timeline, the M1 Max might have been able to keep up. Thanks!
@thefaader
@thefaader Год назад
Coming from an intel based Mac it's amazing what these new silicon chips can do and how smooth and fast it runs!! love my 14'' m2 pro
@scottleist
@scottleist Год назад
Question, in the FCP example of playback. Was the playback in better quality or better performance?
@alysiamessersmith5818
@alysiamessersmith5818 Год назад
This might be a dumb question but is there really a huge difference in performance between the 30 core and the 38 core?
@user-yc4ng5xd9g
@user-yc4ng5xd9g 28 дней назад
This is “the” only doubt I have ,and this video just make me clear what I needed (I didn’t saw any other videos about this) Thanks a lot ❤very helpful 🙈
@ChefeJamon
@ChefeJamon Год назад
would love to see the same testing you did on final cut but on premiere pro
@rodrigodenigris6778
@rodrigodenigris6778 11 месяцев назад
Would you get the M2pro 14” or go for the M1 Max 16”. It has been a couple years since M1 so there have been so many deals that have made the M1 Max 16” similar in price to the 14” M2pro
@aryapraagya
@aryapraagya 4 месяца назад
Great video Tyler! No one seems to understand that while export times are a good way to compare which GPU is better between devices, the most important thing is efficient playback. Just one question, during these tests how much maximum RAM was being used, would the 64GB RAM version be more than enough? or is there any advantage to the 96gig variant.
@canews8971
@canews8971 Год назад
You really do make some high-quality videos. I can't believe you don't have millions of followers yet. It will come.
@Clemme
@Clemme 6 месяцев назад
Hi mate. Best test out there! Im editing in 4K ProRes in FCPX on my M1PRO, 10/16GPU, 16GB. I compound a lot of clips and use color grading masks and color finale 2 + add cinema scope border.png layers, and I'm surely not able to play back in "optimal quality" - a lot of dropped frames and the project (300GB) takes 1min 20s to load from my Lacis SSD PRO 2TB and 2/3 the program crashes when I try to open. Im thinking about buying the M2MAX since I use the computer all day long and I hate a lacking workflow. Do you think the M2MAX with 32Gb ram is enough for a smooth workflow or should I get the 64GB instead? I also use a lot of time in Topaz AI upscaling, de-noiseing etc.
@JakeHolder
@JakeHolder Год назад
Will 32gb be enough to run Final Cut? Been trying to determine if I need 32 or 64 gb of the m2 max
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch Год назад
Brilliant second channel plug, integration. 👏🏼
@mirageleung1575
@mirageleung1575 Год назад
honestly, I've watched a ton of reviews on the M2 max so far.. been mulling building a PC rig, waiting for the M3, getting an M1 max until M3 is out. I have Sony A1 footage. This really gave me a ton of confidence in the performance now for raw 8k which is absolutely incredible. This has been probably the best and most meaningful review. thank you. subscribed
@ThinLineMedia
@ThinLineMedia Год назад
13th gen Windows laptops handle Denoise with 0 dropped frames
@aryapraagya
@aryapraagya 4 месяца назад
​@@ThinLineMediaCould you link anything for reference, or let me know which machine you tried this with?
@waipahutube
@waipahutube Год назад
does the m2 max run hot? did u touch above keyboard? my 16 i9 runs super hot.
@GDoggProductions
@GDoggProductions Год назад
Thank you for making this video XD ! i have the same laptop and yeah, it is deffo faster than my windows computer but yeah, it does have it's limits when adding loads of VFX to a clip fantastic video 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@sickhcivc
@sickhcivc 5 месяцев назад
excited to see your m3 review
@KwasnikPictures
@KwasnikPictures Год назад
Was that intro a 3D scan?? :O Looks fantastic Tyler!
@aryapraagya
@aryapraagya 3 месяца назад
Just one question, based on your usage do you think the 96gb variant makes sense for video editing or do you think the 64gb is enough for 99% of workflows?
@levigarcia7035
@levigarcia7035 10 месяцев назад
Best real world comparission, thanks for share it.
@kushspatel
@kushspatel Год назад
Need to upgrade from my 2017 MacBook Pro 256gb because the battery lasts 2 hours and the ports are broken and the butterfly keyboard has 7 broken keys. I need to choose between M2 Pro vs Max and need help deciding. I mostly us Lightroom CC and occasionally Premiere but also want to use it for 3D rendering.
@piteshmistry9957
@piteshmistry9957 Год назад
I have a 5 year old Dell XPS laptop. Been really intrigued with the Apple Silicon transition, and most likely will upgrade to the 16in MacBook Pro. Very impressed with it's performance and efficiency :)
@georgiivanov4739
@georgiivanov4739 Год назад
It's gonna worth upgrading!
@nathanhoefert
@nathanhoefert Год назад
I am doing this exact upgrade. 5yo XPS and getting the MBP m2 max. Pumped!
@camerons.2831
@camerons.2831 8 месяцев назад
What are your specs on the M2?
@TheFilmmakersWorkshop
@TheFilmmakersWorkshop Год назад
Great Job Tyler. Slick and personable presentation. Is that a Sigma 14-24 on the Lumix S5mk2?
@stalman
@stalman Год назад
Thanks! Close, it’s the sigma 20mm 1.4
@TheFilmmakersWorkshop
@TheFilmmakersWorkshop Год назад
@@stalman 🔥🙌
Год назад
Great test, Thanks
@robnjk
@robnjk Год назад
The NeRF intro!! Love it
@bobsteinfinkel
@bobsteinfinkel Год назад
Good review, thanks for posting. Did you mention the amount of ram you are using? I know you said you didn't want to get technical, but any idea what a good amount of Ram would be? Do you need to max out go get benefits, or does the chip construction make that not as important. Heaviest use case for me is doing multi cam edits with three streams of 4K.
@stalman
@stalman Год назад
This review unit is maxed out but most people’s needs probably max out around 32GB, it would handle your multicam just fine
@aryapraagya
@aryapraagya 3 месяца назад
I'm already considering the 64gb m2 max 16 inch but I don't know if I should get 96gb ram or not. Heaviest workflow for me would be a short feature length film with grade, grain, NR, 6k/8k or multiple 4k streams and timelines streching upto 2 hours, etc.
@SuperFilmregisseur
@SuperFilmregisseur Год назад
Sadly the speakers on the 2021 model kept crackling whenever I was pushing the cpu, either on after effects or final pro or anything cpu intensive... Very sad! My friends and employee's at the local Apple report the same
@dougreuter2712
@dougreuter2712 Год назад
What specs were you running on the M2 max?
@GregoryyM
@GregoryyM 7 месяцев назад
What microphone? Thanks
@joegiuliano5203
@joegiuliano5203 Год назад
What do you do with all the old MacBooks? Can I buy one?
@ugurabdioglu842
@ugurabdioglu842 7 месяцев назад
Hi, I am editing in Final Cut Pro and looking for a new MacBook. Ik have M1 13 inc now but it's starting to lag. I am going to edit wedding that will be about 2 hours. Which one should I buy with the max modal 30 core gpu or 38 core gpu? Thank you if you can give some advice :)
@CinematographyLischka
@CinematographyLischka 11 месяцев назад
i really like your testings, anyway, what i would be looking for is a comparison to a windows machine. with a 5nm or 4nm cpu
@Snowboy2015
@Snowboy2015 9 месяцев назад
YOU'RE MY HERO!
@eddieayala2997
@eddieayala2997 6 месяцев назад
thank you for this comparison
@AA-kj4ic
@AA-kj4ic 9 месяцев назад
Have you tried M1 Ultra with the same noise reduction?
@forever.pushin
@forever.pushin Год назад
I’m hoping my answer is in the video but… Is there a lag when viewing and scrolling through Raw files? I have the 8gb ram M1 Pro 13”, and i hate how it buffers when I’m viewing my raw files 😢
@milanthafernando2102
@milanthafernando2102 Год назад
try lumion 12 run on m2 max if its work then it worth of buying.
@CinematographyLischka
@CinematographyLischka 11 месяцев назад
Props for the intro)
@jwgosla08
@jwgosla08 9 месяцев назад
What are the specs of your mac?
@RoboMagician
@RoboMagician Год назад
how is the m2 mac speed compared to windows nvidia card machines?
@bowieknife
@bowieknife Год назад
Would the m1 max 16" Macbook Pro with 64gb ram from last year stutter like that?
@framebuyframe2493
@framebuyframe2493 Год назад
I use Prores 422 LT because it works best for my A7III + Atomos Ninja V setup and like it better than the in camera recording.
@suisujin
@suisujin Год назад
I am still using an Intel macbook pro from 2020 and tried to edit files coming from the GoPro, tried Premiere Pro, official GoPro app and GyroFlow as well, they all die when processing the 5.3K and 4K files. I think it's time to upgrade the laptop
@apocryphal_man
@apocryphal_man 8 месяцев назад
What was the exact config uses here?
@THEFOODDEE
@THEFOODDEE Год назад
I love y M1 pro 14 inch dont think i will upgrade this time maybe next year
@drewski5k177
@drewski5k177 Год назад
Thank God for this video. If I saw another RU-vidr just comparing export times I was about to snap 😂. Earned my subscription for not cutting corners keep it up
@jo69123
@jo69123 Год назад
How does this M2 Pro compares to Windows Intel and Amd workstations?
@MattCasket
@MattCasket Год назад
You should demonstrate how the m2 max does with fusion in resolve. Or with raw 6k. These are the real tests that people willing to spend 3k plus on a laptop want to see. Also, blender and after effects demonstrations would be great.
@apocryphal_man
@apocryphal_man 8 месяцев назад
But any 1600 Euro PC will absolutely demolish the M2 max in these 😂. I know because I tried.
@aryapraagya
@aryapraagya 4 месяца назад
​@@apocryphal_manWhich Windows laptop did you try it on? or would recommend?
@TrendlineProject
@TrendlineProject 11 месяцев назад
Nice work! I completely agree with you that playback in realtime is way more important than the actual exporting speed. The m2 max mbp is a beast of machine! I got 14” version and I’m able to add countless layers of graphics and it plays smoothly with no stuttering whatsoever.
@jhaque1600
@jhaque1600 11 месяцев назад
what specs do you have?
@TrendlineProject
@TrendlineProject 11 месяцев назад
@@jhaque1600 32gb/1tb/12cpu/30cgpu
@carlosayestas2633
@carlosayestas2633 10 месяцев назад
@@TrendlineProject i got that, and it was terrible with Lightroom classic -.-' .. . . .
@DavidStella
@DavidStella 9 месяцев назад
@@carlosayestas2633I find that hard to believe. I have a M1 Pro, and Lightroom classic is still very fluid.
@kaekae385
@kaekae385 7 месяцев назад
Do you edit off external ssd or local?
@kingsamvisuals
@kingsamvisuals Год назад
Thank you. Scrubbing is way more useful than export. I honestly just leave the export running and come back.
@PTYC933
@PTYC933 Год назад
Here to see stable diffusion. Been playing mid journey for awhile now.
@graugaming74
@graugaming74 Год назад
Just dropping by to say I am a pro editor and work on complex projects. My M1 Max 16" is fully spec'd out and it rules on most projects. Rarely have slowdowns. If you are looking to get a great video editing rig and cant afford M2 then you should really still consider m1 max. It is a great machine and I probably won't see a reason to upgrade in the next few years unless apple adds more video encoders/decoders to the chip.
@aryapraagya
@aryapraagya 4 месяца назад
Hey man, do you think there's any advantage of 96gig of RAM or will 64gig be more than enough, also what about 32gig. I wanna work mostly on 6k timeline, no 8k but my timeline can strech upto an hour so..
@ByMartinLopez
@ByMartinLopez Год назад
Excelent video. 🔥🔥🔥
@euengelion
@euengelion 11 месяцев назад
Have you tried to proxy the videos?
@ooppss5284
@ooppss5284 Год назад
6 layer effect still smooth on m2 max...is it because of your high spec m2max or can it be done with m2max base spec?is it dpending on GPU upgrade or RAM?
@aryapraagya
@aryapraagya 3 месяца назад
please let me know your finding especially 96gb RAM vs 64gb
@paulgarner3364
@paulgarner3364 Год назад
I didn’t know you used Resolve but I’m not surprised to be honest :) great review as always Tyler thanks !
@stalman
@stalman Год назад
More and more! FCP is still the best place to cut but the finishing tools in Resolve blow it away
@paulgarner3364
@paulgarner3364 Год назад
@@stalman I tried it once before and it scared the hell out of me, I’ve only just got proficient with FCP !! I keep seeing more and more RU-vidrs using it but I’m not quite there yet. I do like Dehance videos through it and all the great functionality I just don’t have another two years spare to learn another tool lol :-)
@paulgarner3364
@paulgarner3364 Год назад
@@stalman and now I spent all night installing and watching Videos on Resolve, and they say RU-vidrs don't INFLUENCE people .. lol :) I notice a bunch are saying lately .. just because I say it's good, it doesn't mean go out and buy it .. but hey, you guys are so good at what you do, it's costing me a fortune. At least this time it was FREE :) thanks Tyler ..
@gerardferry3958
@gerardferry3958 Год назад
I still use super 8 and glue it gas a unique look
@MatthewMoniz
@MatthewMoniz Год назад
Umm can we talk about that intro 👌
@Visha1khare
@Visha1khare Год назад
Damn that intro was good
@gurugamer8632
@gurugamer8632 Год назад
How much ram these systems have.
@krishnansrinivasan830
@krishnansrinivasan830 Год назад
Awesome & Thanks :)
@mattlankford1597
@mattlankford1597 Год назад
Hi Tyler, do you think 96gb of memory is really worth it on the M2 Max for someone who edits in FCPX. I mainly edit 4k footage from an A1 and A7S3, I do use a good amount of motion VFX plugins. Or would 32gb be more than enough? I'd be coming from a 16" M1 Pro with 16gb of memory.
@lasseleendertz
@lasseleendertz Год назад
How is your experince so far on the m1? Filming on a A1 too and thinking about switching to macbook. And what codec do you use? just internal rec.?
@mattlankford1597
@mattlankford1597 Год назад
@@lasseleendertz I ended up getting the M2 Max with 96gb memory. It hasn’t been night and day like when I went from intel to M1 Pro but I notice a difference. I record internally on the A1, XAVC HS.
@classicboy97
@classicboy97 Год назад
Do you film 8k with the A1? Both FCPX and Davinci fail so hard to export my 4k projects when I mix my A1 8k internal clips with the FX3 and FX30 clips
@mattlankford1597
@mattlankford1597 Год назад
@@classicboy97 nope, I just stick with 4k 24 and then 4k 120 via S&Q - maybe try make proxies for your 8k?
@aryapraagya
@aryapraagya 4 месяца назад
Is 96 gig any good at any point? or will 64 be enough even when working on say 8k timelines??
@jisan317films
@jisan317films 11 месяцев назад
I recently got the m2 max macbook pro, but is unable to playback 4k footage on a 1080p timeline without frames dropping, anyone know why that is? I have color corrections and slow motion in the clip but that should not make it difficult for the macbook to playback.
@hlz657
@hlz657 Год назад
For M2 max's smoother 8K RAW effects adding, is it owing to CPU or GPU or 96GB ram upgrades? I'm a noob, thx!
@aryapraagya
@aryapraagya 3 месяца назад
what did you find out?
@saradietschy
@saradietschy Год назад
You needs a robot camera when you got NERF :) awesome intro tyler
@stalman
@stalman Год назад
Saved a few bucks for sure 😬
@joakimchardonnens
@joakimchardonnens Год назад
Hi, thanks for this great test. If I'm not wrong, your have a M2 max machine with 96 GB and 38 GPU that is ... a way stronger than the M1 Max 32 GPU. And fortunetly in your test with resolve and final cut, it proves it, clearly. But the price of the full loaded M2 max is ... a lot of money too. Do you think that a M2 Max with 30 GPU, 32 Go Ram will be also faster than the M1 Max 32 GPU, 32 Ram in these kind of work on Resolve?
@snehasaini4357
@snehasaini4357 8 месяцев назад
exactly this is the comment i was looking for. So did you find the answer. Please let me know.
@damodar3327
@damodar3327 5 месяцев назад
Yes plz give this reply for this question
@descendency
@descendency Год назад
8K60 HDR video on YT is a good stress test. The M1 Max struggles to do this without frame dropping (obviously, some frames will get dropped without noticing, but these are noticeable stutters).
@Guironey
@Guironey Год назад
gooddd content thxxxx
@therealcalebrz
@therealcalebrz Год назад
what mic is that?
@nathaliamilis2332
@nathaliamilis2332 Год назад
Id love to see M1 MAX vs M2 PRO
@cammackey
@cammackey Год назад
Great review Tyler! I personally don’t think I’ll upgrade my M1 Max until they can run Denoise smoothly
@stalman
@stalman Год назад
absolutely, there's no need to go from the M1 Max, it's still insane. It could easily last you 3 or 4 computer generations
@toxotis70
@toxotis70 Год назад
@@stalman in 4k timeline with 4k footage, can it play in real time with denoise (no other OFX) ? can you test it please ?
@shridexdigi1982
@shridexdigi1982 Год назад
@@stalman please I will appreciate if you could do a comparison between the Fujifilm xh2s f-log 2 prores 4k vs Canon c70 c-log 3 xf-avc. And if possible fuji xhh2s prores raw and canon c70 raw lite. Love from Nigeria
@TylerMcCool
@TylerMcCool Год назад
yep - we're spoiled, frankly
@ThinLineMedia
@ThinLineMedia Год назад
You can upgrade to a 13th gen Windows Laptop which has 0 dropped frames during Denoise 😂
@ArthropodSpidey
@ArthropodSpidey Год назад
The intro proves that this man is the white Marques.
@Juan_EncarnadoIII
@Juan_EncarnadoIII 8 месяцев назад
Premiere pro?
@womp6338
@womp6338 Год назад
Thanks for testing AI images, not many people cover this. Is 32 gb enough for this? I wonder how long these would take using a 3060 gpu instead
@stalman
@stalman Год назад
Oh yeah for sure you can do it with 16gb too, just depends how much the performance matters
@AeAce
@AeAce 9 месяцев назад
Ok so M2 Max it is!! I am currently using the Intel & yea I’m getting frustrated while editing.. 😢
@GarrettMusic1
@GarrettMusic1 Год назад
I have a 2015 mac pro I think it's time to upgrade haha
@50450720
@50450720 Год назад
Pro res hq is the goto, purely because its butterly smooth in final cut.
@Acquavallo
@Acquavallo Год назад
I would love some Photoshop action in these reviews. I don't do video, so as good as these reviews are, they don't give me an idea of what the computer can do.
@Potchekansky
@Potchekansky Год назад
After that intro shot, I couldn't hear anything you said in your review, because I kept thinking on how you've done it..
@TheLunzDen
@TheLunzDen 8 месяцев назад
I haven’t used ProRes in years it just works without it
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