M2 Pro Mac mini vs world's first Core i9 micro PC!

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The Mac mini has been a staple of the Apple Silicon lineup- a great value option with strong performance and a reasonable price tag! But nowadays, as Intel is upping their performance game, there's a lot more competition from UCFFs- Ultra Compact Form Factor PCs. These things can get pretty fast, in fact Geekom sent over their new IT13 which comes packing a core i9 13900h, a first for UCFFs. Today we'll put it through its paces and see how this upgradable little box compares to Apple's most powerful Mac mini offering
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0:00 Mac mini design isn't very mini
1:11 IT13 Unboxing
3:07 Easy upgrades!
4:20 I/O
4:49 Performance benchmarks
6:29 Fan noise
7:01 Thermal testing
7:50 GPU comparison
8:28 Interesting performance results
9:12 Value differences
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@BattleshipAgincourt 7 месяцев назад

Apple should have filled that empty space in the Mini with upgradable storage modules. Regrettably that would negate their ability to charge a premium for non-upgradable storage.

@tonyburzio4107 7 месяцев назад

FALSE. The case fits on standard racks in server farms.

@CouldBeMathijs 7 месяцев назад

@@tonyburzio4107 OKAY, they still could have used the space for something else though

@chidorirasenganz 7 месяцев назад

Utilizing the space would mean that when the mini gets its redesign it won’t be able to get much if any smaller

@chromaticvisuelle 7 месяцев назад

Agreed! Upgrades are so stupidly expensive

@ms1-Alex 7 месяцев назад

You can’t really upgrade too much an ARM processor. Except for the storage. Like on any phone you will expect to have an upgradable ram, you d lost the advantages of an arm processor if you take ram separated

@brafya 7 месяцев назад

dont make it smaller "just because". the mac mini is small enough, its good enough. the reason they're sticking to the same shell is because of the literal hundreds of thousands if not millions server rack units that slot these right in, this target demographic far outweighs regular consumers who put these on their desks as far as i know.

@jordansmith7621 7 месяцев назад

RE: server racks. You easily could make a 3D holder that’s the same size at the current mini, and fit a smaller one inside of it. That way they can shrink the size of the mini (because ya know; that’s the point of it being called .. mini) but they can sit retrofit it into server racks

@belugabruh9112 7 месяцев назад

@@jordansmith7621 but 3d printing would take time so apple would have to include it with the mac mini which is very unlikely 😁

@TheRealMafoo 7 месяцев назад

"this target demographic far outweighs regular consumers who put these on their desks" And as mini PC's get better and better, this statement will get more and more true.

@jordansmith7621 7 месяцев назад

@@TheRealMafoo wrong. Everyone benefits from smaller computer parts and chassis while still retaining high performance.

@productamadeus8745 7 месяцев назад

I think on some level….you kinda feel like you got cheaped out if this thing looked like a Apple TV. People want some “heft” on their desktops.

@Frank-in-NY 5 месяцев назад

Impressive! I use my Mac Mini M2 for Studio Recording. The benefit has been it's dead quiet, no noisy fans. This Geekom seems to have overcome the heat/fan problems and can certainly provide more bang for the buck.

@TravelingSolo 7 месяцев назад

The external power supply sort of defeats the purpose of a compact unit. Combined, you’re not gaining much over the Mac other than separation. I have a monitor with an external brick and I can’t stand it.

@arturoehr 7 месяцев назад

It’s cheaper than the m2 pro

@TravelingSolo 7 месяцев назад

@@arturoehr That's not exactly true when people start looking at machines, since the entry level M2 is less than the i7 linked here, and you have to assume the i9 he is reviewing is going to push that number even higher and people will pay attention to the entry level pricing. You might get more specs for your money, in terms of storage or number of cores, but those numbers may not mean much to the typical user. Then again, it's not just about specs - your typical consumer would likely never feel much of a performance difference between a 512GB M2 mini and a 1TB i7 IT13, for instance. With pricing so similar, a huge part of this decision will be driven by user experience, presentation, and OS/software.

@adriano760 7 месяцев назад

@@TravelingSolothe i5 one is cheaper

@TravelingSolo 7 месяцев назад

@@adriano760 A Chromebook would be even cheaper than that, but it's sort of defeating the purpose to keep going backwards lol

@JonathanJK 7 месяцев назад

One advantage is if the power brick fails.

@Olli-Tech 7 месяцев назад

I really love the Mac mini design. It's really hard to find something that esthetic.

@igorbalen3389 7 месяцев назад

You can buy yourself a beautiful vase

@Olli-Tech 7 месяцев назад

But there is no M processor inside 😅@@igorbalen3389

@another3997 7 месяцев назад

Get yourself a large photo of a Mac Mini, put it in a frame and mount it on a wall. Apple would probably sell you such an item for $500! 😂

@shaggyfeng9110 7 месяцев назад

Yes, the apple one is so much more beautiful than the PC one. I have a gaming desktop and a gaming laptop that made my room look like a part of a cool factory. The Mac mini + dock connected to the same monitor simply looks more crafted like a piece of art.

@shaggyfeng9110 7 месяцев назад

@@igorbalen3389 Being able to buy a beautiful vase does not mean the esthetic of tools are worthless. After all, it is more expensive to hide a PC and still be able to access all the ports with a dedicated desk.

@SmallBoxCentral 7 месяцев назад

Mini PC's have come such a long way in just a few years. I just did a review of the Minisforum UM790 Pro, that thing is a beast with a Ryzen 9 processor. Would love to see you compare that with a Mac Mini!

@chidorirasenganz 7 месяцев назад

Lmao I was coming here just to say that 😅

@akin242002 7 месяцев назад

I agree. The Minisforum UM 790 is great for video editing, given it's size, and excellent for programmers.

@richard.20000 7 месяцев назад

Intel 13900H has CPU with 14 cores (6+8) and 20 threads with max boost frequency 5.4 GHz. Apple M2 Pro has CPU with 10 core (6+4) and 10 threads with max boost frequency 3.5 GHz. And yet Apple M2 beats Intel. I'm pretty sure Apple has way lower power consumption, too bad it was not measured. Apple M2 has 45% higher IPC (performance / GHz) than Intel Raptor Lake or AMD Zen 4, which mean Apple CPU is at least 5 years ahead Intel and AMD competition. New Nuvia Oryon ARM CPU gets 3227 pts in GB6 ST which smokes every desktop PC. IPC at M2 level while Orion having 12 big cores only. ORYON is a new laptop beast. Further other companies announced laptop ARM SoC: Nvidia, Mediatek and AMD is working on ARM CPU again too. Intel's x86 platform is dead. Every CISC x86 (16 and 32 bit legacy blob) is running on internal RISC core (since 1995 P6 Pentium Pro) which is fast but not effective. That inefficiency was OK for decades for desktop PCs but it cannot fight with super powerful pure 64-bit RISC CPUs from smart phone (blob free). That's a fact.

@akin242002 7 месяцев назад

@@richard.20000 Apple beats Intel in power efficiency, yes. This is important for laptops and cellphones. For desktops, drastically less for individuals. Geekbench 6 multi-core scores: Intel i9 13900h 12977 Apple M2 CPU 10094 Apple M2 Pro CPU 12222

@chidorirasenganz 7 месяцев назад

@@akin242002 power efficiency matters everywhere. As power is not free and the more power you need the more heat that is generated. Which requires more cooling/noise/power. Also the scores you posted were multi core which is what the post you replied to was about. Most programs and interactions with an OS are single core tasks. Multicore is irrelevant outside a few niche use cases

@SuperFredAZ 7 месяцев назад

Great review, I have a Minisforum $300 machine based on the Ryzen 5 4500U (16 GB, 512 NVMe). I can easily upgrade the dram to 64 GB, and the NVMe to 1,2 or 4 TB I use this as a backup to my main computer. I don't game and this micro-pc is perfectly fine for all my "normal "work-flow", Office, web-surfing, etc.

@StephenRosenbach 7 месяцев назад

You made yet another amazingly informative AND entertaining video, and I'm gobsmacked at the performance of the IT3 - thanks so much. I use an iMac daily for Lightroom and Photoshop, and I like it, but I'm a Windows guy at heart. My Toshiba i7 17" laptop from 2013 just went up on me, and I just might like to go for an IT3 to replace it (I don't need the portability, I have an Acer Spin 5 for that) as I have a 27" Acer monitor. Thanks again, Luke!

@nathanarrowsuch5014 18 часов назад

bes video ive seen on the topic, loved it! Im not too tech savvy but I understood everything!!! Id love to see a video on setting up a simple nas for home, have you done one?! Keep up the good work :)

@tiqo8549 7 месяцев назад

Years ago i got a Intel Nuc 8th gen. I put it in a fanless case, and until this day it's running Hackintosh just fine. I also own a M1 mini, but to me they are both just fine. Mini pc's are the way to go for the next coming years!

@JeffHorne 7 месяцев назад

With temps that low on the PC, my guess is that it was set to a power saving mode on the PC or in windows. Especially since it was only pulling 35 watts. They probably allow temps to get up into the 90s in the correct mode, and pull more wattage and clock speed.

@dlewis9760 7 месяцев назад

"Correct mode"? Odd choice of words. Any mode provided is "Correct". The end result that counts is price/performance for the intended use.

@JeffHorne 7 месяцев назад

@@dlewis9760 I see I’ve met my match in pedanticness. By “correct” mode, I meant “maximum performance mode”, since you indeed want to be comparing the computers to see which capable of the highest performance.

@another3997 7 месяцев назад

@@JeffHornePerformance isn't the only metric. Let's face it, for the last few decades, Apple fans have placed far more importance on the aesthetics of their devices than actual performance. "Yes, it's slower than that cheap PC, but who cares? Mine LOOKS better!"

@Stevel_ 7 месяцев назад

I might actually buy this mini PC...looks awesome. I've been using Mac's and PCs off and on since the late 80s, but have been back in the PC camp for a while now since Mac's lost upgradability. I just like to be able to tinker with things and upgrade myself. Hope that comes back to Mac someday.

@bitkahuna 5 месяцев назад

great to see you venturing out beyond the apple world, and great video!!

@c0rnd0g_19 7 месяцев назад

I replaced my i5 Intel NUC with an M1 Mac Mini 3 years ago. The NUC was nowhere as refined as this mini PC. The simplest task would spin the fans up to max, I hated it. Good job by Geekom or whoever designed this! The construction actually looks like a real Intel NUC!

@c0rnd0g_19 5 месяцев назад

@@JosephSeed Dude, this was in 2020 that I switched (see the 3 years ago part...). I'm also complementing the Geekom mini PC, not the Mac Mini. It was an 8th Gen i5. I've been using PC's since 1990 and switched my main rig to Mac. Not sure why picking the product I like better at the time makes me a cultist?

@MarketMessage 7 месяцев назад

Very interesting device - I would be very interested to see how it does with linux instead of windows. The price difference with the Apple mini solutions will make me think very hard about what are the needs are. If I don't need to create apple applications or use Mac only apps .. this would be a very viable solution. Now I will be looking forward to laptops with similar horsepower as I've been spoiled with my fanless m1 air for a few years now!

@lankylonky22 4 месяца назад

@@escobarvthat device is an overkill for home server

@aymanazmi8809 7 месяцев назад

I like the "you would not believe you" & time machine part 🙂

@rapideyephotography9782 7 месяцев назад

A very fair review. Thanks Luke

@BoatDawg 7 месяцев назад

My mac envy is over! Thanks for the review.

@Epicgamer_Mac 7 месяцев назад

Great video Luke

@bugged1212 7 месяцев назад

Nice, exactly what I was thinking about!

@dadabooey 7 месяцев назад

Yup, I am a big fan of mini-pc's ... especially the ones from Minisforum!

@kevinmiles5770 2 месяца назад

Ia m curious as the weight of the mini-PC. Yes, I know you can mount it with a visa mount on the back of your monitor, they make those for the mac mini as well. I used to have the M1 Mac Mini mounted under my desk. But, one thing I noticed with the Mac mini was it was light so light (even with the power supply inside) I often had trouble with plugging accessories in. the Light weight would make the Mac mini pop a wheelie. So, back to my question is mini-pc light weight and does that create a similar problem when you start plugging externals into it?

@Jman33333 7 месяцев назад

App looks great, really excited to use this! Been waiting for an app like this for years. I think health and fitness integrations is a very natural next step.

@massimodemajo 7 месяцев назад

Great video as usual 😊 It would be interesting to see if the GEEKOM could run MacOs as a hackintosh. Would you try that?

@kevinsturges6957 6 месяцев назад

I’d love to see how a music studio program like Steinberg Cubase, and several instrument vsts run in that little i9 computer.

@j340_official 7 месяцев назад

Those geekom usb4 ports support eGPUs right ? Unlike Apple silicon which usb4/thunderbolt ports do support pcie tunneling, but not eGPUs because no Radeon or nvidia ARM drivers for macOS. Also, it will be interesting to see how the geekom mini pc performs (in terms of performance per watt) when it is outfitted with a meteor lake core ultra 9.

@ArielGonzalez1 7 месяцев назад

i'm pretty sure usb4 is thunderbolt compatible, so it should support eGPUs

@Shimeih 7 месяцев назад

It does support egpu. Just not any gpu

@j340_official 7 месяцев назад

@@Shimeih which AMD or nvidia GPU is supported on Apple silicon?

@sam.ruesink 7 месяцев назад

@@j340_official None- none of the silicon macs support eGPUs. I believe they're saying these windows machines do.

@j340_official 7 месяцев назад

@@sam.ruesink oh cool ! 😎 that’s what I was speculating in my original comment

@tekman4932 5 месяцев назад

I like the Geekom because you can easily upgrade the memory RAM and the storage, but will it get slow down?

@paulrine7447 7 месяцев назад

In the Philippines, I have an online gaming computer cafe. I think this is now a viable option for upgrading the computers to something that preforms better and is a lot less vulnerable to lagging that I can sometimes see on my current 10 machines. Along with less breakdowns from the issues that come with using older machines in huge cases.

@alainterieur794 7 месяцев назад

I think this Geekom micro-PC is a good deal for what it does. It's indeed impressive!

@peanutnutter1 7 месяцев назад

For the same price i'd go for the Beelink Ser7 because of the 780M graphics.

@drts_map 7 месяцев назад

it is nice to know that this mini pc has additional nvme slot for egpu,, from the benchmark, we cannot rely solely on the integrated graphics card to play high demanding games...i wonder whether we can use the USB4 ports for eGPU like razer core x and asus xg pro

@Lomaxxx 7 месяцев назад

5:19 nice DJ pult with all that disco light

@MotownBatman 7 месяцев назад

I Like the MacMini Design Im a PC/Linux N00b who Switched finally with the M1 in 2020

@xmetal280 7 месяцев назад

I have a bunch of Macs, and even a full gaming PC, but I picked up a super-cheap AMD micro system and it is absolutely perfect for my retro and light-gaming duties hooked up to my main TV entertainment area. It's silent, completely disappears in the cabinet, uses bluetooth to a genuine Xbox controller and is a joy to use. Amazing value, really, and while a Mac will always be my primary machine those tiny PCs have a wide variety of valuable uses.

@bashdachivo 7 месяцев назад

Thanks Luke 🎉

@rph_redacted 7 месяцев назад

Having a power adapter outside helps a lot to avoid unnecessary heat in the machine. Apple can easily make a tiny mac mini and power it using a MacBook pro charging brick. a M2 mac mini can easily work in an apple TV box size.

@pauljazzman408 7 месяцев назад

I wonder if you could get more speed out of the mini pc with some tweaks? I would consider getting one for pc games like Starfield. It’s good that micro pc’s are snapping at Apple’s heals. Maybe then they’ll offer more base ram (I think they are about too) and more base storage of a reasonable speed . I had to upgrade to 1Tb in my M2 Pro Mac mini to get the faster ssd speed. I don’t like Apple cheapening out on low ram and speeds in in base models.

@bb5242 7 месяцев назад

it13 is pre-order only, when do they actually come out?

@Treydmusicmedia 6 месяцев назад

I realize that I'm late to this video. However, have you tested the two minis using photo and music processing apps (i.e. real world usage tests)?

@rebertaschb3736 7 месяцев назад

• Is there a way to add a Thunderbolt conector (install) on the it 13 ??? my sound card is thunderbolt apollo 16. If so im considering it !!

@Chosenite 7 месяцев назад

GEEKOM Mini IT13 13th Gen is not available on Amazon UK. Why not? Thnaks

@JasonTaylor-po5xc 7 месяцев назад

Glad to see Geekom finally putting 2.5g NIC in their systems. I've passed on them in the past simply because they still rocked 1g NICs. Mac Minis are still great for certain use cases because of their hardware execrated ProRes, H.264, and HEVC encoders and decoders - a part that would be 2k alone just a few years ago. I'm looking forward to an M3 refresh with AV1 built-in as well. You also have to factor in subjective things like some folks just don't like Windows and would prefer MacOS regardless of the price point. I would not use any of these MiniPCs as a serious Desktop but they do make great little project systems. I'd also point out these are all basically mobile/laptop CPUs, so don't expect full desktop performance (yeah, they still have a place).

@laserjakk3629 5 месяцев назад

Hi Jason, Mac Mini m2 pro or Geekom IT13 for me? I am a beatmaker/music producer from Brasil and here Dollar is 5x1, plus the fact of those products double the price when you buy here in Brasil. So a U$800,00 I will pay R$8.000,00 here. My concern is: 1- how does IT13 will perform/stability with a project with a lot of tracks, plugins VSTs opened against M2 Pro and 2-what about International Warranty buying this in US and bringing to Brasil, cuz I know Apple provide it and I can extend more 2 years apple care. I would like to have your opinion.

@JasonTaylor-po5xc 5 месяцев назад

@@laserjakk3629 That's interesting. I'm not really sure how getting service internationally works. I've had decent luck with Apple products but you do pay a premium for it. With any mini-PC (Geekdom, Minisforum, Beelink) you have the option to upgrade later (up to 64GB RAM and more storage) with Apple there is little to no upgrade path. But, if you plan to use Apple Logic for your music - they support an insane number of tracks. If you aren't using Logic, you might be better served with the PC route unless you know everything is M2 ready. Also, you might consider waiting until Spring for the next Apple event - it is possible they will update the MacMini with M3.

@TheRealMafoo 7 месяцев назад

When talking about the general topic of mini PC vs Mac mini, keep in mind this is a sponsored video. He didn't go out and find the fastest mini PC. I suspect if he did, and compared it to the Mac Mini, he would be surprised at how fast it is.

@TheRealMafoo 7 месяцев назад

@@garrusvakarian8709 Ryzen 9 7940HS. It's slightly slower in CPU performance, however in the same form factor, you can crank it up. This 13900H in this mini PC is underclocked, so it doesn't overheat, so I suspect the AMD in the same box, would be faster. Also, the AMD is well over twice as fast in GPU performance. In some cases, closer to 4X

@akin242002 7 месяцев назад

@@TheRealMafooMinisforum UM 790 would be a better comparison since most MacMini users are also into video/photo editing. The iGPU on the Minisforum UM790 competes in that realm.

@level7041 5 месяцев назад

What is the warranty like and how do you get it serviced?

@taidee 7 месяцев назад

These PCs are really amazing for the space they take up.

@sirena7116 7 месяцев назад

If I needed a new pc and wanted something small for windows, I would absolutely buy a Geekom PC.

@ThePilottribune 7 месяцев назад

The biggest difference (other than price) is that the Micro PC is can be upgraded (RAM, Storage) and the Mini can't. The other difference is the OS. I you love MacOS, you'll buy the Mini. If you love Windows, you'll buy the micro.

@chromaticvisuelle 7 месяцев назад

I love MacOS a lot but I would get the PC. I just can't get around the ridiculous prices of storage and ram options with Apple.

@chilled99 7 месяцев назад

Thats the real answer - there is no point comparing Mac and Windows and the hardware they run on - people use what they're most productive with and dont tend to chop around. A tiny percentage of people are equally productive with both OSes where the comparison would matter. Considering how macOS uses RAM efficiently and the fact you can always use external storage, the choice isn't that simple - but it comes down to productivity for me. Buy what helps you get the job done quickest. @chromaticvisuelle

@CleberToreto 2 месяца назад

I think that, after your review, the big question is: Can the Geekom edit a 4k video in Davinci Resolve as fluid as the Mac mini? If yes, we have a great contender and a viable intel alternative to Apple M silicon with real expandability

@disklamer 4 месяца назад

I would be interested to see how this performs when running macos.

@TecraX2 5 месяцев назад

1:30 - I hate external Power Bricks... Especially the ones that are almost the same size as the device that they are powering!

@VitiateTheImmortal 7 месяцев назад

Yeah Mac mini for me lol i’m in the market for one. Waiting for the keynote in a few days to see if i get an M3 version or gotta go with the M2 pro

@JpeterZoom-gt3pn 6 месяцев назад

That is an amazing value for somerhing so small!!!

@thaisara 7 месяцев назад

Thank you

@DavidMalcolm 7 месяцев назад

I feel like Apple is really missing a lot of free publicity that they could get from launching a Mac nano. I think they'd get a lot of people nostalgic for the iPod nano, and they could proabbly make it about the size of like the original iPod. They could use one of the power supplies rom the MacBook Airs, make it fanless with an aluminum chassis that would act as a big heat sync, make it fanless. You'd get people putting them into all kinds of things.

@Offie-et7zp 7 месяцев назад

When you make a comparison and single handedly encourage apple to mage som effort. great Content Luke, Thank you!

@denisdeslauriers7277 7 месяцев назад

I'm still amazed how PCs can keep up with Macs performance wise at a much lower cost.

@TheEmrickman 4 месяца назад

Would be nice to see a comparison run on Davinci Resolve or Premiere pro.

@petelongrs 7 месяцев назад

Excellent video and it hasn't finished yet :)

@Xe4ro 7 месяцев назад

How are the thermals if you let both run for a couple hours doing cpu intensive stuff?

@TheDanEdwards 7 месяцев назад

Yeah, notice how Luke does not put both of them *into* (individual) shelves and monitor the temps?

@Xe4ro 7 месяцев назад

SMOOREZ has done a review on one of these and had thermal problems but it seems to be a cool little machine, I'd rather still get a Mini though ^^

@bkoleff 7 месяцев назад

Luke, for the moneys sake, forgot that "5 years ago" there were Intel NUC's.

@riley4545 7 месяцев назад

Put both Mac and PC with their power cords and power bricks in separate ziplock bags and I bet the PC displaces more water than the Mac. Form factor was impressive until the power brick came out.

@BigBrotherMotown 7 месяцев назад

I don't even NEED a pc right now, and i might buy one. That price for that amount of performance simply can't be beat! Not to mention the amount of ram and SSD space you get. Even though I hate windows I could make good use of this!

@JohnSmith-gb6tg 7 месяцев назад

What's your thoughts mod it with Core Legacy Patcher? and run Sonoma?

@ZhuJo99 7 месяцев назад

Mac mini runs Sonoma just fine. You mean Hackintosh that PC? You use regular Open Core, not legacy patcher. And no, it’s not possible because of unsupported graphics.

@JohnSmith-gb6tg 7 месяцев назад

@@ZhuJo99 Of course Mini 2018 and later runs Sonoma, duh ! Opencore is getting quite sophisticated, so I have no doubts they have ways to make Intel integrated graphics to work. I think Iris X runs with Opencore. That's the whole point of my post to see if this mini pc will run with Opencore (If it's a PC, of course it's Opencore for non-mac! I irk using "H...tosh", it doesn't deserve a negative moniker like that for what the group in Github has done for non-mac users.

@becontentandsilencethemind1562 7 месяцев назад

Holy moly macaroni and cheesus! That power adapter is……huge! …that’s what she said

@stevemcclure2879 7 месяцев назад

Fair and balanced. I'll still take my Mac Mini :). For the record I'm a HUGE Chromebook fan and love my 17" Acer Chromebook @ $249 refurbished!!

@user-ss7uo6ko6m 7 месяцев назад

Does the Geekcom i9 config support eGPUs?

@ricgl84 7 месяцев назад

Wouldn't be a better comparison with a Mac mini high spec M1?

@RobloxianX 7 месяцев назад

I would like to see this density in a Mini ITX case, like lets say Velka 3 size. Imagine how much more you could do with this if you at least had a dedicated GPU

@Arcadium1177 7 месяцев назад

I will never understand why everyone pushes for the mac mini design to change. The design is perfect, it's proven and it's decade plus consistency gives it a super rich collection of accessories in enterprise and small business. I'm sure Apple knows they could make it much smaller, but for what reason? Worse cooling and louder fans? It just doesn't make sense.

@c0rnd0g_19 7 месяцев назад

Agreed 100%. There's no reason to make the Mac Mini smaller, it's perfect and gives it headroom for more power processors in the future!

@bradl2636 7 месяцев назад

What Win OS version does it ship with? And of the 4 versions they sell do they all ship with same OS?

@DozIT 7 месяцев назад

It varies. I have bought a few Beelink Mini PC's. They all came with Windows 11; most were pro variant (as that is what I needed for domain join).

@dom1437 7 месяцев назад

That rise of the tomb raider score seems a far too low for the M2 Pro, are you sure it was 1920x1080, very high settings? I got ROTR recently and been playing very high at 1080p and we have two very different experiences to say the least

@beautifulportland9592 7 месяцев назад

That large bulky power supply is a deal breaker for me . . . . Sorry!

@healthwisevibes 7 месяцев назад

I have a question someone help me decide I just started my marketing agency and i need a laptop. I have got 3 deals right now that are confusing me (maybe) All refurbished 1- macbook pro 13 2017 i5/8/128 for 375$ 2- macbook pro 13 2017 i7/16/256 For 475$ with touch bar 3- macbook air 13 2020 m1/8/256 for 725$ Which one would you choose ?

@ken1w 7 месяцев назад

It could probably be the size of an Apple TV, but Mac mini doesn’t need to be any smaller, too easily yanked around by attached cables. It sits low on a desk. Keeping same external design allows users and server farms to use the same existing racks to hold it, if not sitting on desk. Also nice for existing “zero foot print” peripherals that fit perfectly below Mac mini. I’m happy it still mostly looks the same as old ones with Intel inside, different ports, hard drive, and even optical drive.

@raduarmadamusic 7 месяцев назад

So nice! Not available to purchase in Eastern Europe. So bad. This is why Mini is so expensive.

@synovium 6 месяцев назад

Now if this little beauty can be a a fully functional hackintosh then it is wonderful

@user-zd7id9rx3f 7 месяцев назад

What is the maximum amount of main memory it can support?

@just.bob.j 7 месяцев назад

During the tests you didn't tell us if higher or lower is better or worse?

@maf11300 6 месяцев назад

If you are in the Apple eco system, then the Mac mini is the way to go for sure. If not, then the Intel and AMD minis are great. It is not mini vs. mini bit but rather the eco system you prefer. I have a Beelink SER 5. I can change over to Linux or any other OS. I can upgrade RAM and storage and can connect up to 3 monitors 4k each. Got it on Amazon for $239 after the coupon.

@LeicaCat 7 месяцев назад

Those gigantic power bricks are obnoxious though.

@flymanhawaii 7 месяцев назад

I use both pc and Mac daily. I don’t like the loud fan noise and the bulky desktop, this micro pc seems a good choice for my next pc. Need to find out more about its thermal performance and the limitations.

@JasonTaylor-po5xc 7 месяцев назад

Because of the thermal limitation, MiniPCs are very hit or miss on noise - some do a good job - normally by throttling down the CPU. I only use MiniPCs for IT projects, not as a serious Desktop. I use Macs for work and some personal projects - but I use PCs for gaming and specialized activities.

@Pocketkid2 7 месяцев назад

Wow, that's a pretty great mini PC.

@raduarmadamusic 7 месяцев назад

Yeah. If you can buy it.

@radoslavtsepenishev3626 7 месяцев назад

I wonder if the outcome would have been different if the micro pc was not sponsored. Food for thought.

@dave24-73 7 месяцев назад

Adding in the extra height and large power supply it’s far from smaller I’d say it’s bigger, looks a lot like a NUC pc to me (form factor).

@TheDanEdwards 7 месяцев назад

Oh look, Luke is doing an eleven minute advert for Geekom. Well, good for Luke being able to make a living on this stuff. But this is an advert.

@dennisud 7 месяцев назад

I'm really surprised they didn't take the Apple TV Housing and put the Mac Mini insides in there! Wow, this is good! All you PC'ers a nice regular computer!

@PeteLovesPixels 5 месяцев назад

I'm not sold on these current minis. I am in the process of returning one from a competitor because it couldn't even run Adobe Lightroom with out hard crashing the machine like someone pulled the plug. The machine I'm talking about has the i7 13700H, 32gb ddr4 and can't even navigate the library function in Lightroom. Completely repeatable. Best guess from researching the web is heat and lack of power at 120w. This machine you are reviewing doesn't seem much different. The other issue is these small machines are all using laptop chips which makes heat a factor to the point that problems arise. I still haven't made a final choice but I am now wide open on what I'm looking at. I'm looking at building a desktop myself, another laptop or a mac mini m2 pro. I've never owned apple and never thought I'd consider them but the M2 silicon is really good. Mac reliability is also likely better in this case. The real kicker here is that my laptop is a year older 12tth gen i7 and will run lightroom, not well but it will run. I'd like to see a slightly larger form factor for better heat management.

@MrCed122 7 месяцев назад

I have a micro-PC that I paid around $150 I think and it has an Intel N100. It doesn't look impressive at first, it's essentially what replaced the Atom and Celeron line... until you realize that thing is at the level of a mobile 8th Gen i5 (at least the U line), even better on some aspects since it uses DDR5 and has AV1 decoder, and not that far performance-wise from the i7 of that era (again, U series), which were available in laptops around $900 around 5 years ago. Not even 2 years ago, the mini-PCs on that price range were still using Celeron J4125, which was worse than an Haswell i5. Intel and AMD have done a lot of effort on their mobile offering since the release of the Apple M1 and that only helps the consumers, I really like that. (My N100 PC also has dual Ethernet, triple HDMI, 8GB of RAM (unfortunately soldered) with the option of choosing 16GB during the purchase, and an upgradable NVME SSD, it's great for the price and totally usable for everyday use for most people)

@emilychristoff9404 7 месяцев назад

Can the little PC run os Ventura?

@lindhartsen 7 месяцев назад

Impressed it kept up quite well. The noise is a sacrifice but if you need Windows and have envy of the Mini it looks nice.

@tonyburzio4107 7 месяцев назад

Looks.

@NoToeLong 7 месяцев назад

The Ryzen mini PCs are even more impressive, since their iGPUs perform much better than Intel's.

@akin242002 7 месяцев назад

Depends on one's needs. Programing, business finance, and general web browsing then the Geekom i9 is great. ML, video/photo editing, and gaming then the Minisforum UM790 is far better choice.

@angrysob7962 7 месяцев назад

That was a great review. Very objective and fair.

@Gogo8mkd 7 месяцев назад

Can the Mini PC be expanded with an external GPU?

@puttipongngamek-aua 6 месяцев назад

I do have mini PC and love it :)

@chepulis 7 месяцев назад

Lmao, the size of the power supply brick. So mini. Much smaller.

@watchcommander2012 7 месяцев назад

Mac mini was designed for a certain customer segment that wanted a scalable server solution running Mac OS. The added benefit is it makes a superb desktop for most people at a reasonable price point.

@Rotwold 7 месяцев назад

Except it is expensive to upgrade and offer no expansion so I don't see how that's scalable. It's a miniPC for apple customers, no sane person run a server on MiniPCs and expect them to be scalable.

@blaah4490 6 месяцев назад

@@Rotwold It WAS somewhat scalable back when there was a server version. The server Mac Mini had replaceable hard drive (x2) and RAM.

@Allinfun6789 7 месяцев назад

The giant power brick is the only think I do not like. I would worry about the long term use of the PC. Will it continue to perform well in 2 years as well as the Mac? Will it break? But the ability to upgrade the storage and the RAM is huge. We need more PCs like this.

@jasonhowe1697 7 месяцев назад

there is no comparison since you don't m.2 in the mini assuming the 1 of the m.2's isn't a service annex for expanded wifi functioning theory of max is 24 TB max though not sure what max ram caps are

@Applecompuser 5 месяцев назад

Also, there is still thermal benefits despite cooler Apple silicon plus there is a bevy of peripherals based on the current mac mini. They should only change to achieve😊 a purpose such as adding new internals. Change for tue sake of change is a waste.