M3 MacBook Pro VS M3 PRO! 

Sorry there is a mistake in one of the charts at 5:18 - The labels are wrong the first bar is the results from the M3 Pro (14 core GPU) while the second result is from the M3 chip - not the M2 Pro (19 core gpu) The scores are correct, the labels are wrong.

No Mac should ship with 8GB of RAM. Its just not acceptable.

Well done comparison. You answered a lot of my questions.

Great little comparison video

You did the best in focusing more on my decision especially when you said more of base M3 comparing to the new Mac Book Air thank you for making my decision more clear. Thanks again

The base 16" is configured identically to the 14" with 12-core/18 GB. If you put 1 TB on each, the difference is $300. other than ~28% more screen real estate (and a return to 22-hr from 18-hr), what might the difference in performance be? Obviously, it could easily have better thermals based on being bigger. But is it also a better performer than the 14?

Similar specs upgrade of base m3 gets you very close to the m3 pro, with the pro getting another thunderbolt port and multiple display support, additional cores, and space black color. The most significant upgrade being the space black

Thank you for the very helpful video!!

QUESTION! I’m considering selling my trusty M1 Macbook Air with 16gb ram and getting 14” M3 Pro (either binned or unbinned). What do you think? Would that be a significant upgrade?

great video comparison, thanks alot

how does the m3 base model comprares to the base model macbook pro 14 m1 pro since you can get it refurbished for less than that value?

I'm on the m3 pro and i have used a bunch of opened apps. I left my computer open... and slowly I see the ram useage go down second by second. the dynamic cacheing looks like it see which apps are not being used, it optimizes them, and it for the apps that have some usage on them, it slowly caches things down until you open it up again. But i see this trend where the data is going down when you do not touch your computer and it slowly fills up to where it was as you use it more. Overall alex zilinsky, ran some bench marks ( a software developer) and I can confirm: the SSD speeds are back up to double the speeds on the base model storages. Even for m3/ as for memroy bandwidth, you absolutely will not notice at all. M1 pro and m2 pro series are so fast the data gets chewed through before you saturated and froze the system. You might notice hiccups id you use a 12 bit footage with 3 stacks and have a bench mark open in the background for the consumer chips: but for the pro and max chips: apple has really peaked. All that's left for them to do in my opinion is to bring back the clalm shell design next year since their chips woul dhave so much damn battery. I used my macbook pro for 5 hours now since it left the box and it went down 10%, and that's me hammering the brightness and blasting the new speakers. watching my podcasts are so amazing because I thought I wouldn't notice, but voices are deeper because you can hear the entire low end from the drivers... I'm coing from the last intel macbook ever made. The spaceblack made me pull the trigger. And I changed my mind last minute from the 12 core to the 11 core m3 pro because the 11 core m3 pro has the same and slightly better cpu AND gpu than the top spec m2 pro. And I always see developers praising and hanging onto their m1 pro.... I think that's largely in part due to the damn fast ssd speeds and they brought it back up. RAM is not a problem. And They gave us ray tracing for editing. Resident evil runs a locked and steady 30 fps on an iphone. Haven't downloaded that game because mac isn't supposed to be for gaming, but it has some games and it's very capable. 9/10..... I will be returning it today and swapping it out for more storage because I'd want to hold onto this machine for more than 2 years as initially thought.

What is the best value if I come from a M1 16gb Mac Mini that is struggling with my video editing workflow? I don’t know if ai should get M3 Pro (base), M3 Pro (upgraded), M3 MAX (base) or M2 Pro refurbished

thank you it means so much to know how much fps it can do so i can compare it to previous silicon to see the gains of pro against max, right now i own m1 imac 24 inch with 16gb ram and it struggles to keep with my daily task, and today i made the decision to commit to m3 macbook pro 14.2 inch space black reason being is the cheapest pro laptop to get and it takes me few months to get it from 0, compared to max chip which i want but sadly it cost twice the price of pro meaning in waiting time above a year meeaning that next macs will come out by the time i buy a max,thefore i will just commit to the cheapest pro chip this year and learn the laptop but from your video i love the way it looks and shows great results so im sure i will be happy selling my imac for it, it is still brand new i got it less than half year ago but im sick of white basels and light colour and i was hesitating to get pro because it had only grey and silver, while i do belive i will miss 24 inch display of 4.5k resulution it can be solved in time by getting xdrr apple display of 32 inch which is a 6k display with mini led if i prefer size of display, same goes for external add ons like keyboard mice or bluetooth speakers, which could sound like mac studio zone but it is different, it is very expensive and lacks in every aspect aside from power rest.

Thanks for sharing. Blessings on your day!

How’s the MacBook Pro M3 pro real life battery performance? I’m considering between M3 Pro and M3 base model :)

Very nice Thank you....I watched this video on the base model m3...and fr most people out there including me, this is more than enough for regular daily tasks (btw I I switched from the M1 Pro and saw a big difference )

Great video. I agree, the best buyer for the base model M3 Pro would be the people wanting a more capable machine than the M2 Air and 13” MacBook Pro. If they’re not shopping between those basic models, they should go the base M3 Pro chip.

Any thoughts on the $2000 space black m3 macbook pro vs the Studio Mac M2 Max? I already have a 4k monitor and don't edit that much or leave my house for work. I would like to edit more but even that would be basic editing and no graphics work. I also have a friend who works for Apple so I get a 15% discount. Should I get the M3 to just future-proof even though its less cores all around and memory?

Great video 👍🏻 lots of good information.

I'm upgrading from the 2020 M1 MBP...which i believe is 8 core CPU and 8 core GPU. I use Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro (though, not simultaneously), and edit SLOG from my Sony A7 IV in FCP, with some basic color grading/LUTs. My current machine handles this pretty well, but there are certainly some times where it can struggle a bit. Though the base M3 is impressive, my gut tells me that the MBP with the M3 PRO chip (12 core CPU / 18 core GPU) is the move for me and should be plenty of computer, but the Max is tempting as well. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Is there a difference in the SSD speeds when you upgrade the SSD for both models? How do they compare to baseline and to each other at 1TB, 2TB? It would be interesting to see whether there is any difference with the M3 Max variant ssd speeds as well…

It’s like you were directly speaking to me. 😂 I don’t use pro apps etc. However the screen on the base M3 and the speakers are worth the extra money, even if I don’t use it as intended. My old MacBook Air M2 is being retired.

Can you do video editing and use obs and other tool with the base line M3 pro ?

I'm a Photographer, and use Photoshop and Lightroom, right now I'm using a Dell workstation. I have a 3070 graphics card in it. I also like to play with AI Stable diffusion. Do you think the Base M3 will work for me if I change over to Apple?

Good information

What about battery, I'm considering if M3 Pro which have similar bench result compared to M2 Pro would really have that higher eff, and longer batt life, or it just apple bllsht and just go for M3 Max

This convinced me to stick with the base model. I don’t use pro applications. My use case is M365, RU-vid and other simple processes. Thank you!!

How about memory swap between RAM & SSD? is it better from M2 Air?

Can you do a battery test between these two?

Thank you!

I’m considering between the MacBook Air 15in, M2, 16GB Unified Memory, and 516GB SSD Storage and the MacBook Pro 14in, M3, 16GB Unified Memory, and 516GB SSD Storage. It would be a personal laptop, which would be used for college and other personal purposes such as watching videos or playing games. What would you all recommend I get? (I also do have some what if a budget, but I just want something that will last me a few years and is powerful enough)

Greg -- have you had any success Disabling Time-Dithering on the various MacBook Pro models? It's really hard on the eyes.

Would it make a significant difference if you upgrade the RAM to 24Gb or even just 16Gb for the base model?

Is that a mistake at slide 5:40 it’s suppose to be M3?

Can you do a comparison with the M3 pro 11 core CPU and 12 core CPU

What does it mean, a better Battery life ?

The M1 Air 2021 is plenty for me! 😊

when you showed the specs you showed 11 CPU cores and 14 GPU cores for M3 Pro version as well as Geekbench (binned version) but when comparing GFX bench you showed M3 Pro to M2 Pro you showed 18 cores rather than 14. Are you using to models (binned and unbinned) or is it an error or am I just confused?

For memory what’s better memory that I Can use for University Architectural Engineering Major⁉️

Video editing with 10 bit 4:2:2 4k 120 fps, which model? I still have an m1 pro and its...okay..

Battery life differance would be interesting

Thanks for the videos and updates on new M3 chips but why is no one comparing 16” MBP M2 MAX, 32GB, 1TB ssd, 12CPU/38GPU with 16” MBP M3 PRO, 36GB, 1TB ssd, 12CPU/18GPU Those results would tell a lot about new chip...

If you want the ports, Mini-LED display and updated chip, this is a great alternative to the Air. I may have gone with this over the Air.

do you reccomend upgrading the specs on the m3 pro?🧐

Idk why it took so long for me to find your channel, but you make great content!

should I get m3 macbook pro base for 2K euros or m3 pro base for 2.6K euros?

Question for everyone, I have an m2 air and old 2017 old MacBook Pro, i want to trade in both of them but should i get a Upgrade Base M3 MacBook Pro 24gab RAM/ 1TB SSD for 1079 or go with the M3 Pro version with 36gb RAM and 512gb SSD for 1479?? Would be appreciate it, (Don’t want any comments on saying “Why” “You already have an M series chip”, i just graduated and first in my in family to be getting a college degree so which option i best?? Appreciate it

I just picked up the M3Pro yesterday. This is my first macbook and am moving away from windows laptops. Still have a desktop windows rig that I built for gaming but am enjoying this macbook very much so far.

Your charts are really confusing. The bar is not the same ratio as improvement.

10:01 I still cannot decide whether to have M3 at 16gb ram or M3 Pro base... There are no videos explaining which one is better ;-;

Pardon me but a blonde question…. Does an 8 core 10GPU 16gb m3 pro still constitute a base and or does it come with only one fan or 2….

4:42, is this calculation correct? 40% does not align with the graph shown. Also, just browsing the web, the number I saw for Geekbench 6 SC for the M2 was 2592 and for the M3 3084, which is 19% . Still a good improvement but not 40%

I am looking to upgrade my 2017 Macbook Pro 13. As programmer the base model should be sufficient but... Seriously my 6 year old base model already had 8GB RAM. 😐😬

Great 70’s hair Greg. Lol

Amazing Content. but i'd like to see the vs of M3 base vs M2 PRO. That's the huge question!

Hi, i really want to buy a m3 iMac but do you know if the 256gb ssd is slower like on the m2 macs ?

I'd like to see a comparison between the base M3 and the base Mac Mini Pro. They should play the same role in the lineup - the machine in the middle, sitting between base M2/Air and "properly pro" models like Mac Studio/full-fat MacBook Pro...

You help su so much, thanks. Sadly the link don't work for me (UK) they open M2 devices =/

GFX Bench Bar graph is labeled with an m2 MacBook Pro 19 core, when it should be labeled m3. Just a heads up.

Would you recommend the macbook air 15inch m2 16gb ram version or the macbook pro m3 with only 8gb ram? They're about the same price...

I was really thinking about going 14 inch base Pro but decided to pick up the 15 inch Air base model a few days ago. I had a pro from 10 years ago so it was time to upgrade. I might upgrade to the M3 Air if they release that but definitely not going another 10 years without updating it lol

I’m glad you showed the cooling fans. It too Apple customer service too many hrs to tell me.

Hello your review are spot on

people looking at the base m3 model should look at a last gen m2 pro model which can still be found new on sale at 1600 usd. comes with double the cooling, double the ram, 40% more gpu performance and can connect to 2 displays instead of one

I’m looking to upgrade from MacBook Air 2017intel for college.. I just do normal browsing, Netflix and a little bit of Lightroom classic editing, not photoshop. I was thinking of MacBook Pro m3 with 16gb 512gb. Or just get a m3 pro at this point?

You should make a video on entry level 14inch macbook pro m3 pro vs m1 pro

I went with MBP M3 w/16 gb and opted for more battery for a marginal difference vs MBP M3pro and $200 savings.

I’m only a basic user no fancy stuff so as U say the base M3 sounds good enough for me 👍

I opted for the M3 Pro 16" , why? For me it's the sweet spot between battery life and performance. The M3 Max burns through too much battery for my taste. I do compile code a lot but nowadays the incremental Rust-based compilers are really really efficient and fast.

finally get some rough mind expecting mapping ideas how this m3 pro version macbk once greg initial test out!😆👨🏻‍💻🧠

How good is the binned m3 max chip?

Would you return a 14” M2 Pro w/ 1TB storage for the M3 or M3 Pro? I have two more days to return it if needed and am unsure of what to do. If I were to get the M3 Pro I would get the option with the lesser cores, as it costs similar to my current M2 Pro.

Finally someone mentioned the battery benefits of the base M3. 25% boost over the M3 Pro is no joke, right!?

Was the two screens that got me to pro, needed two man

got the 16 inch base model m3 pro but its too big..... but i like it... its just not as portable as i would like...... now i dunno if i should get get the base model m3 or pay 500 extra for the pro chip

I’m thinking about trading my M1 MacBook Air base model, M2 MacBook Air base model and my M1 iPad Pro since I currently don’t use them very often and I think I need to condense the amount of Apple Stuff I currently own. I want to trade those three devices to get the base model 14 inch M3 MacBook Pro. Do you think that’s a good idea? I’m a sucker for new stuff and honestly I barely use those other devices. What are your thoughts about it Greg? Cheers!

Please do not start the plot axes from arbitrary values, eg @ 5:06 where it starts from 500 instead of 0 and seems as if the performance doubles, trying to make the differences appear bigger than they actually are, it is a really bad practice.

Should I get a m3 or used m2 pro? It’s on sale for 1600 from Apple.

Actually based level M3 is not necessarily a PRO performance, its just a PRO hardware. Pro performance starts with the M3 Pro.

I think you’re right, if someone just wants some of the features from the MacBook pros, but actually doesn’t do any type of pro workflows consistently, or has no ambitions to do any of those workflows then yes the M3 MacBook Pro makes sense. However, this device has no headroom to grow. You didn’t really show any multitasking and any type of multitasking that includes a combination of certain pro level application and maybe more normal applications, and web browsing completely bottlenecks the a 8 GB of ram. The ram pressure is just way higher when you’re multitasking. And if you’re interested in doing any type of pro application that uses GPU performance like blender, you can actually just crash the software if it’s not the only software that you’re running at at the time. So you know I think that in general, if you’re somewhere in between a pro level user and a normal user, the main question to ask yourself is what task do you plan to be doing with this MacBook Pro That would be considered a pro level application? if it’s just video editing with Final Cut Pro, you’re fine to get just a normal MacBook Pro. However, if you want to use multiple Adobe applications at the same time, potentially, da Vinci, resolve, or blender then you might want to look at M3 pro MacBook Pro. I think at a $200 difference after you upgrade to 16 GB of ram it really becomes a hard sell to not move up to the M3 Pro. I think multiple creators and myself could agree on one thing which is I don’t really think this device should be specked up to the 16 GB, if you need that just go to the M2 Pro or M3 pro MacBook Pro. In the battery life debate I do believe is important, but the battery life issues that the 14 inch M2 MacBook Pro had have been significantly mitigated due to the E core and P core allocation on the M3 Pro MacBook Pro 14 inch. Right now that makes the baseline M3 MacBook Pro have about 20% longer battery life over the M3 pro MacBook Pro. I do not think that that’s insignificant, but I think the real world experience of that extra 20% might not be as noticeable as it seems. Like realistically at the end of the day, that’s the difference between having 8% battery leftover versus 12% battery. What I would actually like to see even though this is a harder test is does the M3 have better standby time then the M3 pro MacBook Pro. Because if the M3 can essentially hold its battery longer while not in use in addition to being able to last longer, that would be a really big shifter for me. However if it’s about the same that 20% difference I think you actually get a good trade for that 20%. You actually get a pro level laptop that’s still last incredibly long time, but I feel like if the M3 is going to be a battery champ vs the M3 Pro it’s gotta be like really good not just slightly better than the M3 pro.

What is the size of ssd in the test?

Someone from Apple just claimed their 8GB is analagous to 16GB on a Windows PC (lmao). I think you should put that to the test. Not using an Intel mac with a chip designed 10 years ago, using a hyper modern competitor from AMD or Intel, 16GB vs 8 on a mac, through heavy data sets that exceed 8GB, not just swapping around a few small programs that swap could mask ok.

Well, i am still on intel 13 inch and i am an indie dev, so my apps are not so large and complicated, but still need to run docker etc. 8gb of ram is not even a joke in this times, especially that is shared with graphics, Next thing is that crappy single fan, and only one monitor support. If i am not mistaken even 2 port old 13 inch intel MBP could run 2 external monitors. So... ram upgrade is a must. It is 18 hundred bucks. For 200 bucks more you have better cooling, better cpu and gpu, support for 2 monitors which you could consider pro feature maybe 20 years ago, and 2 gigs of ram. If i will buy a new one it will be probably m3 pro model.

I got myself an MacBook Pro M3-pro chip (just the base 11core/14core version). When I use it for light tasks the battery life is amazing. taking notes and browsing during lectures resulted in a 7 hour use time with 86% battery left. I wonder if those 18 hours displayed when you buy the computer is for quiet heady duty work. If I use it for light tasks the battery would last days. right now just using it for light tasks like programming and Matlab occasionally. the future will be more heavy duty 3d modeling and engineering simulating programs. Conclusion. MacBook 14" M3-Pro is a quite amazing machine, I would not take into account the battery life difference between 18 and 22 hours. even this one has more than anyone could utilize. don't buy the base model unless you're on a budget

If I were to buy the new 14" MacBook Pro, I'd upgrade the RAM, max that out and max out the storage, 512GB of storage isn't enough. I do run most of my work and save them on external drives, but, more storage is just better. That cost will go up to $2,599 for it. That's for the regular M3 one they sell now. I already have the 2021 14" MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro chip with 1TB of storage, of course I spent big on this, it does the job for me, so don't expect me to upgrade. I think Apple is targeting people with old intel MacBooks to do the upgrade.

Also your tests with GPU is not the binned model M3 Pro.

Great video - but your point about 8GB Unified Memory on the base model is important - I think most people agree 8GB is not enough (or at least doesn't future proof it) - so once you upgrade that to 16GB, and upgrade to 1TB memory SSD - you are comparing £2099 to £2299 for the M3Pro chip with 1 TB ssd (and you get extras eg more CPU & GPU and an extra port - and "Space Black" rather than "Space Grey"). Just too many choices!! Maybe I should just wait for an M4 chip!!!

What about the m3 max?

In Canada it's a $300 difference if you upgrade the base M3 to 16GB, much more difficult to decide.

Just got used macbook pro M1 13.3" 16gb 1tb for 1k €. Happy

Not a computer guy but would a m3 base model be okay for zoom meetings sharing screen working on notion facebook ads etc just business tasks...anyone answer asap please haha thanks!

Why isn’t apple having wifi7 until now with such heafty pricing

8GB of memory on a MacBook “Pro” at the end of 2023 is inexcusable. It’s nice to hear that it’s a moderately performant machine though.

M3 pro is a little bit too expensive atm, and I don’t like the M3. Now the question is should I get a M1 Pro or M2 pro. Requirements are 1 tb and 16 GB unified.

give back the touch bar still have the option not have it

If you were to ask me I would buy the 15 inch MacBook Air M2 As that is already more powerful then most windows

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Since the introduction of Apple silicon, it's the time of refurbished/preowned MacBooks in my opinion. M1 (Pro) is more than enough for most people, and even the old Intel models are getting really attractive now since their prices have fallen so much. I just bought a 16" i9 because I need to connect 2 external screens, want a big screen and good speakers, and I want to run x64 VMs. For most people, I'd recommend an M1/M2 MacBook Air, and if you need more than one external display, an M1 MBP. I think for most people, M1 Pro or M2 Pro is a better buy than an M3 (Pro) MBP. The M3 Max MBP made a huge leap, that's where going for the new one can really make sense.

Is an M3 base model with 16GB ram worth it?