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M2 Pro vs M3 Pro: We need to talk... 

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Today we'll set up a 4 way comparison between the M2 vs M3 MacBook Pro vs the M2 Pro vs M3 Pro MacBook Pro! Thats a lot of vs and I'm kinda confused now. Anyway, what happens when you compare some of the fastest chips Apple has to offer? Well, you'd think more tbh. The M3 Pro chip seems to optimized for one thing mainly: battery. So lets see how M2 Pro vs M3 Pro battery comparison as well as M2 vs M3 battery comparison looks! A lot to get into this time folks
Time stamps
0:00 4 way comparison!
1:26 Geekbench 2024
1:46 Blender Classroom CPU
2:11 3DMark Wildlife Extreme
2:35 Blender GPU + metalRT
3:35 GFXBench
4:01 Shadow of the Tomb Raider
5:19 Final Cut Pro
6:25 Battery comparison
6:58 High performance battery test
9:16 Video playback test (from 100%)
9:53 Final Cut Pro export test
11:20 Conclusions and recommendations
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Комментарии : 809   
@HenrikoMagnifico
@HenrikoMagnifico 6 месяцев назад
Buying a laptop in 2023 is a nightmare...
@Yewbzee
@Yewbzee 6 месяцев назад
True. Just copy the RU-vid transcripts from Luke’s tests (when he’s done them all) and bang them inti ChatGPT 4. Then you can discuss it in real time as though Luke was sat in your room with you.
@michaellurie9138
@michaellurie9138 6 месяцев назад
They are all great choices. Get more than 8GB of unified memory if you are doing something serious and you can afford it.
@jacksonburger2081
@jacksonburger2081 6 месяцев назад
Would you rather be in 2019?
@ndn624
@ndn624 6 месяцев назад
Depends on what your work / intention is centered around I think.
@Everyday-man
@Everyday-man 6 месяцев назад
Just buy a iPad Pro , legit. If you want a powerful laptop, just get what works and is powerful. Get AMD cpu and RTX gpu
@azxsys
@azxsys 6 месяцев назад
Thanks, this is one of more useful reviews I seen so far in M3 Pro. Keep up the good work! It's highly appreciated.
@EbenPajanconi
@EbenPajanconi 6 месяцев назад
Finally, someone who showed RENDER times instead of EXPORT times on Final Cut! Such a good benchmark to show the performance on usage while editing.
@angelo8872
@angelo8872 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for your video. It provided an in-depth and fascinating review that I found extremely insightful. Keep up the great work; I’m always eager to see content like this that’s both informative and engaging.
@tompov227
@tompov227 6 месяцев назад
The battery test was excellent. I like that you had a performance oriented and a general use RU-vid video oriented test. Most of my battery life is spent watching RU-vid videos since I let them play for long times in the background but obviously when you're doing important work you also don't want your battery to die really quickly I would like to know more about the battery health of the M2 laptops, and I also think it would be worth mentioning the brightness of the screen since doubling the refresh rate and increasing the maximum brightness may have impacted the battery life compared to the original M2 MacBook Pro.
@begriprespect3316
@begriprespect3316 2 месяца назад
You are talk exactly like my intressed things and I have the same problems with the battery and the only ques and biggest issue haha like you’ strange !! … you comment exactly what I will comment 🤣🤣👍 😎👌
@Stryder_The_Nite_Owl
@Stryder_The_Nite_Owl 6 месяцев назад
This is the sort of quality review that I used to subscribe to Macworld 30 years ago to read about. Awesome stuff, keep up the good work!
@DigiDriftZone
@DigiDriftZone 6 месяцев назад
It does seem the only laptop that represents good value is probably the baseline Max... If you want the Pro you may as well get a refurb M2 Pro.
@aelaan12
@aelaan12 6 месяцев назад
Or even a refurb MAX - I got mine for a super deal in June.
@DigiDriftZone
@DigiDriftZone 6 месяцев назад
@@aelaan12 M2 Max? - the M3 Max is 50% faster, it's a HUGE leap over the M2 Max, the biggest we've seen in a long time.
@PKperformanceEU
@PKperformanceEU 6 месяцев назад
​@@DigiDriftZonemore than 50% in CPU tasks
@graxxor
@graxxor 6 месяцев назад
Just RU-vidrs flexing. Ignore. Unless you can get an M2 Max at 40% discount it’s meaningless comparing.
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 6 месяцев назад
​@@DigiDriftZone50% faster, but when you're talking about rendering times I was like 3 minutes versus one and a half minutes. That doesn't mean a whole lot to the end user. Obviously that depends on how much work you're doing, but for any singular consumer.... I don't know how much that performance pump will matter
@julianat007
@julianat007 6 месяцев назад
The battery life test is really good. I was wondering about that. Having such dramatic superior battery life for the M3 pro vs M2 pro is will sway buyers to M3Pro.
@danielcontenteromanzini817
@danielcontenteromanzini817 6 месяцев назад
I mean, it has not been really promoted by Apple in its marketing material for the m2 Pro having the same battery expectation as the m3 max
@Drae2212
@Drae2212 6 месяцев назад
@@danielcontenteromanzini817Yeah I find that very weird considering the M3 pro seems to have a pretty significant jump in battery life over the m2 pro
@Vilverin
@Vilverin 6 месяцев назад
@@Drae2212 Apple's battery life claims are mostly strategic. They want to make it seem like you're not compromising on battery when you go from M3 Pro to M3 Max, even though there will be a noticeable difference. The M3 Pro is very close to the M3 in terms of battery life (as this test showed, even with the 12C M3 Pro), while the M3 Max is worse than the M2 Max was according to other tests. Battery life really scales with the number of performance cores, that's just how it is.
@clementcardonnel3219
@clementcardonnel3219 6 месяцев назад
​@@Drae2212 Apple never advertises battery life for intensive tasks, their benchmarks are either playing a video for a long time or refreshing a few webpages. In that regard, there's not so much difference between M2 Pro and M3 Pro. I think Apple doesn't want the user to think that there'd be a big difference between an "intense" use case and a standard one. Because it would generate buyer anxiety: "is what I'm doing an intense task?", "how much battery will I, with my specific needs, will have?". Those are all valid questions, but Apple probably doesn't want to put a "3 hours maxed-out gaming" on their product page next to the current "18 hours watching Apple TV+".
@Comisionado
@Comisionado 6 месяцев назад
Exactly my thought process. M3pro having superior battery life will have buyers going for that. It's one of the main selling points.
@wankersonwhisky
@wankersonwhisky 6 месяцев назад
I would love to see the M1 pro trotted back out to test against the newer M SoCs, especially considering how good it was at entry level (m1 pro chip, 16 gb unified memory, 512 gb ssd)
@guidrissen
@guidrissen 6 месяцев назад
Agreed
@GrumblingForesight
@GrumblingForesight 6 месяцев назад
Same here
@mjacksonjones
@mjacksonjones 5 месяцев назад
agreed. Comeon luke!!
@adambushman2928
@adambushman2928 5 месяцев назад
Same
@explorerOfToday
@explorerOfToday 5 месяцев назад
Best review on youtube! Couldn't find a comparison like this anywhere else on youtube
@Eztodraw_123
@Eztodraw_123 6 месяцев назад
Awesome in-depth review Luke! I love watching your videos!
@NicolasdeJong
@NicolasdeJong 6 месяцев назад
Great video, thanks! Definitely interested in thermals of the m3 max. I'm a software developer that would like a bit more than the 36GB which leaves just the max. I just hope the extra cores (which are awesome, by the way) won't lead to too much extra heat and fan noise.
@Tom-ur7ew
@Tom-ur7ew 6 месяцев назад
Would be nice to see a multitasking stress test comparison! M3 vs M3 pro: how the temps compare, memory swap etc
@anshulgoyal
@anshulgoyal 6 месяцев назад
I loved the way you put efforts into different types of test to make conclusions
@pheriwinkle
@pheriwinkle 4 месяца назад
I love the scene set-up at the end... sitting behind the four laptops and closing the lid on the non-recommended one.
@El.Duder-ino
@El.Duder-ino 6 месяцев назад
Thx a lot for making these comparisons👍
@Muttinodo
@Muttinodo 6 месяцев назад
I’m curious if the 14-inch models last shorter than the 13-inch model due to the ProMotion or not. So it would be good if you tell us more about the configurations of the 4k video. Also, it would also be good to run a test with a 1080hd video as well.
@hunterbsmith
@hunterbsmith 6 месяцев назад
Interesting question: How would M3 compare to M1 Pro? Also, is M3 Pro better than a chip like M1 Max?
@eric_white
@eric_white 6 месяцев назад
Yes, this!! Most people aren't upgrading their Macs yearly. Hell, before I bought my current M1 Max MBP in 2021, I was still using a 2015 MBP! While I understand the comparison to the last gen chip, that isn't the reality for the majority of the market. I would like to see a comparison between the last gen Intel MBP, an M1 Pro and M1 Max, and, sure, throw in M2 chips for giggles. I think the M3 generation is when a lot of people still holding on to their last Intel machines will make the switch.
@Randuski
@Randuski 6 месяцев назад
This is my biggest question. The only people who upgrade computers every year are RU-vid reviewers haha I have an m1pro, and while I don’t need an update, idk, I’m curious
@TheDocmadness
@TheDocmadness 6 месяцев назад
I'm in on this vote too - M1 Pro MBP for me....and it does what I need it to do. But I also have the M2 Pro Mini (base binned chip). I have a feeling that we could see some good gains from M1 Pro to M3 Pro, but I want to say that I'm thinking that most of us who may be on the fence should wait until the new Pro Minis and the Studio get updated before we diving into paying Apple more money for a laptop. I think the Max chip is going to be a super beast and our money would be better spent on the Studio if we are looking at the graphical benefits to the M3.
@BallisticTip
@BallisticTip 6 месяцев назад
I don’t have stats - but I noticed a significant increase in compile times, and ended my day with about 60% on my m3 pro vs i averaged 20% on my m1 base, that could be due to increased render time resulting in less high power usage, not sure. Look forward to someone testing
@arturoehr
@arturoehr 6 месяцев назад
I saw a reviewer put an M1 Pro vs m3 max and the differences weren’t that drastic in his benchmarks like exporting
@luciano.armani
@luciano.armani 6 месяцев назад
look forward to see the game comparison. im actually quite curious how the m1 pro wouldve stood in this test btw
@daveh6356
@daveh6356 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Luke. You already have a ray tracing benchmark - Cinebench 2024 has been updated to use the new M3 hardware RT. You also already have another - the updated 3DMark (iOS) has Solar Bay which uses MetalRT just swipe to the far left. Be sure to run all these in full-screen/game mode & highest power. Congrats on finding the MetalRT option in Blender - most didn't. Beware Blender Benchmark as it doesn't use MetalRT yet.
@disklamer
@disklamer 6 месяцев назад
It would be interesting to see if there is any difference in performance - and fan action - when plugged in, with either a full battery or charging. Also how much does the brightness setting affect battery life?
@zachlyons
@zachlyons 6 месяцев назад
I bought the base M3 Pro specifically because the tradeoffs they made with it suit my needs, but admittedly I'm probably less bothered by the same-as-M2-Pro performance because I'm coming from a base M1 Air. From where I'm sitting with the M1, I'll get a massive performance bump and still retain nearly the same (incredible) battery life; that plus a bit more RAM and better SSD speeds on the base 512GB model when compared to the M2 Pro makes it worth it for my workloads (high-res RAW photo editing, music production, occasional 4K video production).
@LookitsTook
@LookitsTook 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for this because everyone just keeps testing the fully decked out Max chips that most people aren't buying. Been looking to get a Pro series chip.
@jackjackson3507
@jackjackson3507 6 месяцев назад
because apple only sent them max review units. You can clearly see in this video why.
@Shadow231179
@Shadow231179 6 месяцев назад
best youtuber for macbooks comparasion. Thanks!
@didierjanson
@didierjanson 6 месяцев назад
Awesome video. I have the M2 Pro and it’s FAR more power than I’ll ever need. I think the only people who’d see a difference between the M2/M3 series chips are the people who’ll push these machines to their absolute limits
@shivamsharma-ty1mm
@shivamsharma-ty1mm 2 месяца назад
I just bought a barely used m2 MacBook Pro with 16 GB ram and 1 TB SSD for 1000 usd so I think at that price that's the best deal
@thofra0117
@thofra0117 6 месяцев назад
What is also important to note is that some programs can only make use of performance cores, so the M3 Pro will have significantly worse performance. Audio DAW's like Logic Pro and Ableton only use performance cores, while Reaper can use all of them.
@joelwisdom-peters5024
@joelwisdom-peters5024 6 месяцев назад
Big tings
@GoB1996
@GoB1996 5 месяцев назад
You’re the only one to mention the programs I’ll be using most. I’ll be jumping in and out of Fl studio and Pro tools for hours on end. Would I be better off getting an M2 pro MacBook? The M2 pro with the specs I want comes out $2000. The same price as the baseline M3 pro specs. Should I go ahead and get the M3 since it’s the same price? Or will the M2 pro give me better performance/longevity? Thanks if you end up replying!
@thofra0117
@thofra0117 5 месяцев назад
@@GoB1996 Hi, It seems the channel I have been following regarding this subject just uploaded a video about this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FSqX4bt9to4.html I haven't watched it yet but I think it may help with your purchasing decisions. I predict that the M2 Pro will be the better buy overall, M3 only has the benefit of AV1 encoding and ray-tracing.
@GoB1996
@GoB1996 5 месяцев назад
@@thofra0117 thank you so much! Definitely helped me with my decision.
@thofra0117
@thofra0117 5 месяцев назад
@@GoB1996 Happy that I could help! :)
@andobreslin8735
@andobreslin8735 6 месяцев назад
Please include the M1 series as well as the M2 because it'll be fascinating to see if there are any real gains overall. It could help me decide if I'll just get an M1 pro or M1 Pro Max 👍🏻
@InsertFX
@InsertFX 6 месяцев назад
Not sure why getting the M1 Pro or Max if it does not worth it now... the M2 Pro or Max will be almost the same price as the M1... And newer hardware, less usage and will be better than getting a refurbished/used M1.
@MikaelNitscheDrums
@MikaelNitscheDrums 6 месяцев назад
Hey Luke! Just curious, did you take charge cycle count/battery health into consideration to offset the battery life test results seeing as the M2s are older? 🙂
@ZeroRoy
@ZeroRoy 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, I was thinking the same but considering that the m2pro is 10 months old, then the battery should be very deteriorated.
@ettcha
@ettcha 6 месяцев назад
​@@ZeroRoyI have an M1 pro that's still at 98% capacity. Unless he's been putting his M2s through the grinder, it's possible his figures are still within a couple of points of new machines.
@scottbrady4472
@scottbrady4472 6 месяцев назад
Such a great comparison 👏
@seray-bx9lm
@seray-bx9lm 6 месяцев назад
Thx for luke and greg quick cross comparison videos🎞️🎬 finally give some glipse of taste, clues for m3 pro performance & possible products with price differation tag position across m1-3 product line💻, keep up the good work👨🏻‍💻👍🏻 waiting for sam work!😆
@chloefletcher9612
@chloefletcher9612 6 месяцев назад
Another good video, Luke - but I clicked the like for the "I dunno"....that was gold.
@MrZerg0403
@MrZerg0403 6 месяцев назад
thanks for the information. Could you please advise what is the ram size for the base model in the test?8gb?
@HYPERSPACEMUSIC
@HYPERSPACEMUSIC 6 месяцев назад
Big Thank You for MetalRT test in Blender. Upcoming version 4.0 will have this option enabled for M3 chips by default. Hardware accelerated rendering is quite a thing in 3d world.
@jamesestrada82
@jamesestrada82 6 месяцев назад
I just bought an Apple Refurbished 14” M1 Pro Max for $1600. It had 7 cycles, and looks pristine cosmetically speaking. That said, I’m more than satisfied with the value/savings 💪🏼
@arvenes5921
@arvenes5921 6 месяцев назад
Where i can find those deals, beside Apple/Amazon?
@twent19
@twent19 6 месяцев назад
That’s an awesome deal
@Guundhi
@Guundhi 6 месяцев назад
Well…to be fair the original battery was likely replaced. The battery ought to be the main component replaced in a refurb.
@kirishima638
@kirishima638 6 месяцев назад
The M1 is a fantastic chip. That machine will remain relevant for many years.
@elroxmusic
@elroxmusic 6 месяцев назад
@@arvenes5921 Backmarket
@TheChen92
@TheChen92 6 месяцев назад
Can you please help shed some light on the impact that 16 GB vs 8GB on the base M3 chip… specifically for VRAM intensive tasks? I’m curious if 16 GB base M3 would provide benefits for the future of gaming on Apple silicon
@pillington1338
@pillington1338 6 месяцев назад
If you have M1 Pro/Max I think it would be really useful to include those in your next video with the M2/M3 Pro/Max. A lot of people with M1 will be wanting to know if it's worth the upgrade to an M3.
@musicalhistory4392
@musicalhistory4392 6 месяцев назад
In short: M3 and M3 Max are both good upgrades from the M1 equivalents, the M3 Pro is not.
@m-stat9
@m-stat9 6 месяцев назад
yes please make a M1 family vs M2 family vs M3 family shotout
@ChrisMcFaul
@ChrisMcFaul 6 месяцев назад
Yes, i think more people will be considering an upgrade from an M1 Pro to one of the new MBPs, people with M2 Pro are surely more likely to stay put.
@NgaTaeOfficial
@NgaTaeOfficial 6 месяцев назад
Yes please include the M1 Max. Also, it’s so weird (and great!) seeing my home Piha Beach onscreen in your FCP tests. If I’d known you were coming I’d have shouted you a beer at the pub!!
@Nookie94
@Nookie94 6 месяцев назад
In short for the money? Not worth upgrading from anything. Unless you’re making money from your mac or using it for videogames (terrible value for that) then it’s not worth buying anything new.
@DominicBrownLondon
@DominicBrownLondon 6 месяцев назад
Thank you !! Finally a comparison between the m2 Pro 12 core vs M3 pro 12 core !!
@buhraion3873
@buhraion3873 6 месяцев назад
Could the difference between the m2 pro and m3 pro be from the lower available bandwidth in m3pro?
@yiyinyu9679
@yiyinyu9679 6 месяцев назад
Great video, but I wish the M3pro was the 11core base model. Can it match the performance while increase the battery life.
@sergejkrynycky728
@sergejkrynycky728 6 месяцев назад
QUESTION! I’m considering selling my trusty M1 Macbook Air with 16gb ram and getting 14” M3 Pro (either binned or unbinned). What do you think? Would that be a significant upgrade?
@wissensfrosch
@wissensfrosch 6 месяцев назад
Concerning GPU performance, especially in games: could it have something to do with the reduced memory bandwidth? Or is it the same for the configurations you tested? Loading lots of textures could become a problem for the frame rate.
@IageF
@IageF 6 месяцев назад
The battery test was very interesting. How did you account for battery health status on the older models? Were all the models brand new for these tests or did some models already have some battery wear prior to the tests?
@SeanTube2099
@SeanTube2099 6 месяцев назад
Exactly my question
@alexsimedrea
@alexsimedrea 6 месяцев назад
He doesn’t use those laptops other than for this kind of videos, they probably barely have any cycles
@Manuel-rl6um
@Manuel-rl6um 6 месяцев назад
In the battery test, it would've been interesting to see a test in battery saving only with the efficient cores working, and see the behaviour differences between M2 Pro and M3 Pro
@Dr.ChrisA
@Dr.ChrisA 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video Mr Luke Miani
@craigbrett672
@craigbrett672 6 месяцев назад
I have a 2014 Macbook Pro Retina - is the M3 Pro going to be a good upgrade?
@cjgonzales1900
@cjgonzales1900 6 месяцев назад
I would love to see a battery test with the 16” vs 14” base. Since they are advertised as having the same battery life. Also testing the m2 pro 16” vs new 14” base as those are the 2 laptops I’m debating on buying. As always great info Luke!
@pracsi0909
@pracsi0909 6 месяцев назад
Thank for your work. It helps me a lot 🤔😉.
@diverseprogrammers
@diverseprogrammers 4 месяца назад
I code every day. A lot. Like most programmers, many tabs open, terminals, docker instances, etc. I am very disappointed in the M3 Pro. Originally bought a MBP M2 Pro due to chip architecture being superior with the entry model, but had to return due to sound issues and there were none left to exchange. My M1 Mac Mini I bought for $799 is outperforming my MBP M3 Pro ($1999). MBP M3 Pro is running the same code bases and has even less open and still does not perform as well. That modification of memory bandwidth is a real bottleneck for my workload. The performance cores is a cherry on top of another terrible decision. They're gouging their customers. Yes, the M1 (non Pro) is outperforming the M3 Pro..
@mizinoinovermyhead.7523
@mizinoinovermyhead.7523 6 месяцев назад
Luke, I'd be interested in knowing what is swappable from one machine to the other. Can you throw the larger battery from the pro into the base m3 and get some extra battery run time? Can you swap screens? That sort of stuff.
@dfc2851
@dfc2851 6 месяцев назад
Isn’t the AV1 encoder supposed to help the batttery on RU-vid and stuff?
@SteveNilsen
@SteveNilsen 6 месяцев назад
Would like an comparison, or recommendation between the Mac Studio M2 mac 14 core and the 14 inch M3 pro 11 core. Performance wise.
@robocobrabot
@robocobrabot 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for addressing battery life. This has been the burning question in the back of my mind!
@shoby2422
@shoby2422 2 месяца назад
Hey Luke planning to get the 14 inch Macbook pro m2 12 core 19 gpu, 32gb ram 1tb ssd for some video work but mostly music production. Do you think its a good choice or should i really shed out the money for a 14 inch macbook m2 max?
@d1jal
@d1jal 6 месяцев назад
Finally jumped from a 2017 MBP to a M3 Pro MBP and loving it.
@ri3469
@ri3469 6 месяцев назад
10:24 for the 90 minute test, are you running the same applications and functions and doing the same clicks/actions?
@Asomatous
@Asomatous 6 месяцев назад
Were you using the same macOS (Ventura) on all machines or was there a mix of Sonoma and Ventura? I have heard the new M3 Macs aren’t recognized by Apple servers as Sonoma compatible.
@carolina.mariia
@carolina.mariia 2 месяца назад
btw does it make any sense to buy m2pro with 12/19 gpu over base pro? or since we are then adding extra ~300 would it be way better to go with base pro m3 11/14?
@MateuszCencyk
@MateuszCencyk 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for this! I am getting 14” M2 Pro 1TB/16GB, new on huuuuge discount 🎉. BTW. M2 Pro is better for music production in Ableton and Logic Pro because those DAW’s are using mostly only Performance Cores! Efficiency cores are chilling… I don’t know why it is like this but this is key factor where M2 Pro and even M1 Pro have much better performance in those programs. I think this is valuable information and for me it was key difference.
@plastisho
@plastisho 6 месяцев назад
Dear Luke, I'm about to buy a new computer, and the main workload will be processing photos in lightroom and photoshop, is it possible to do a comparison test between m2 pro and m3 pro, 14 inches, since my hesitation is between them. thanks
@estaciononerecords5424
@estaciononerecords5424 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much my friend! Finally a comparison of my m2 pro 12 cores/19gpu vs equivalent m3 pro 12 cores/18gpu... after this scary strategy of downgrade m2 line in just 9 months obviously because of Qualcomm event... I am really more calm now because as you show my computer is equivalent to m3 pro 12 cores/18gpu... battery maybe significantly noticeable difference but face to face they are very similar... thanks Jeez 😁 Keep on Luke !!! 🤗
@b46ene
@b46ene 6 месяцев назад
Luke, Can you do a video of MBP 14 M1 pro (base 8 core) vs MBP 14 M3 (base) ?
@briangraham6415
@briangraham6415 6 месяцев назад
Curious, what were the cycle counts on the M2 Pro? Kind of thinking that’s a variable that needs to be taken into consideration.
@SeanTube2099
@SeanTube2099 6 месяцев назад
Exactly my thought
@noamdrach
@noamdrach 6 месяцев назад
I ordered an M3 pro last week and it’s coming on the 19th, thanks for this video! Even if it’s not a monumental upgrade it’s still really good from updating from a 9900k I’ve been using for almost 5 years
@mypicturesbox
@mypicturesbox 5 месяцев назад
Hey! What made you buy the M3 Pro over the M2 Pro? Everyone keeps saying the M3 Pro is a bad deal, but I don't quite understand it, I mean it got 200$ cheaper while still having somewhat the same performance as the M2 Pro. Yes you would get the M2 Pro cheaper than the M3 Pro now, but now the M2 Pro also isn't the newest Mac anymore, meaning you won't get updates as long as with the M3 Pro.
@noamdrach
@noamdrach 5 месяцев назад
@@mypicturesbox Its the newest model and why not get it right at the beginning on its life cycle to upgrade from my 9900K pc. I got the M3 Pro 12 Core with 36GB RAM and 512GB (I got 512 Cause the storage doesn't have issues and I can use my 16TB home network drive) and its been great so far, I'm replying to this on it right now Edit: I do admit it was very expensive
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster 6 месяцев назад
Does Unreal Engine 5 work ok on the base M3?
@thomasricatte8287
@thomasricatte8287 6 месяцев назад
Nice video! One essential point here is also that only 'Pro' and 'Max' support natively multiple external screens (aka without software emulation), which is an absolute need for most 'pro' applications imo (could be video or music) ; I am considering take the M3 Pro for this only reasons but still hesitating....
@MrMeowNow
@MrMeowNow 6 месяцев назад
Awesome video! Thank you for excellent content ! What would be a better buy, M2pro or M3 @14” size … Thanks
@altosack
@altosack 6 месяцев назад
M2Pro
@MrMeowNow
@MrMeowNow 6 месяцев назад
@@altosack thanks
@sky.london
@sky.london 6 месяцев назад
I feel Like you need to add some on screen TEXT, it’s getting g really confusing which mac is which.
@Holden_McHock
@Holden_McHock 6 месяцев назад
How is the fan noise in base m3 vs m3 pro? Interested to know since its 1 fan vs 2 fans
@SzybkiPolonezGSI
@SzybkiPolonezGSI 6 месяцев назад
I'm still hesitating between mac studio m2 max vs new macbook pro m3 pro. Which gonna be more efficent , it's hard to tell clearly from benchmarks?
@muhammadrivan2055
@muhammadrivan2055 6 месяцев назад
Please compare macbook 14 M1 pro vs Macbook m3.. should i upgrade from m1 pro to base m3
@jonathanmarten6976
@jonathanmarten6976 6 месяцев назад
In the battery test the was the M3 at the same display brightness? Also the M3 has a bigger display with mini LED, but also bigger battery.
@shubham-itachi
@shubham-itachi 6 месяцев назад
Is 16gb MacBook Air M1 good. Or base model for Developer purpose
@jeremias3363
@jeremias3363 6 месяцев назад
did you test plugging in and unplugged. I saw somewhere that it matters with m3 (sadly).
@cheekyoscar1353
@cheekyoscar1353 6 месяцев назад
The M2 pro you are recommending . Can you confirm the details . As I'm trying to look for it on the Internet . M2 pro Ram ? ssd ? thanks
@jsl8461
@jsl8461 6 месяцев назад
What was the screen brightness that you used? I think one issue with comparing M2 vs M3 is that the 13" MBP (M2 chip) has a smaller screen with 500 nit max SDR brightness, whereas the 14" MBP (M3 chip) has a larger screen with 600 nit max SDR brightness, and that might offset the latter's bigger battery.
@dexter2012dc
@dexter2012dc 6 месяцев назад
Hi, thanks for the video it's very interesting. I have a question for you if you can answer me. I have a MacBook air M1 8gb ram, i want change because now I'm using parallels desktop to use virtual machine (kali). I can't use properly, I'm looking for a laptop ( I was thinking in M3 pro basic) to work better... but I'm open is suggestions. Thanks a lot
@annatomacari9349
@annatomacari9349 6 месяцев назад
I'm torn, I have a 2014 MB Pro 15 inch, looking to upgrade even though it is still working. M2 Max or M3 Max or M2 Pro, M3 Pro? 16 inch. The price differences make it so difficult to choose and I've never bought refurbished before, where to safely do that if that is the decision?
@federicodicarlo5782
@federicodicarlo5782 20 дней назад
Do you think that the battery problem on the 14” m2 pro would be the same on the 16” m2 pro? Other question: if there’s only 100$ between refurbished m2 pro and refurbished m3 pro which will you buy?
@CarloRizzante
@CarloRizzante 6 месяцев назад
The M3 series has just been released. I won't be surprised to see improvements all round going forward via software updates.
@chinito77
@chinito77 6 месяцев назад
Suggestion regarding games, can you please run some Windows games via Parallels and/or Game Porting tool kit? Would prefer to see how virtualization runs on M3 Max. Thanks in advance!
@EternalCoders
@EternalCoders 6 месяцев назад
hey can you clarify how much this M3Pro is better thn the M1Pro base model. should i upgrade or this it also have same slow ssd issue like M2 series
@workhardforit
@workhardforit 4 месяца назад
Went ahead and bought the base model 16" M3 Pro (from M1 13" MacBook Pro) even though 16" M2 Pro units are discounted everywhere in my country. The slightly brighter display, significant energy efficiency factor plus ray tracing, mesh shaders, dynamic caching, 2GB extra ram, etc. will be taken advantage of in the future and I don't wanna miss out on that since I do game occasionally. But more so for the battery life, that was a huge deal for me. I'm very happy with it thus far. No regrets... ...well, maybe the weight and overall size of it but the size of the display is liberating. You win some, you lose some.
@WILLBLACMUSIC
@WILLBLACMUSIC 6 месяцев назад
What are your specs on the M2 pro and M3 pro? My 14" M2 pro (16 gb ram, 512 gb ssd) doesn't get anywhere near the read/write speeds you show briefly towards the end of the video.
@JM_2019
@JM_2019 6 месяцев назад
I think reviewers concentrate too much on high performance. It‘s also a pro workflow to do many things in parallel. If you have for example a lot of office apps and browser tabs open, and maybe watching a video at the same time, most of these tasks probably will run on the efficiency cores and I guess the M3 Pro will have significant advantages here in terms of effieciency. So I would say the 3 Pro is for parallel workflows, while the 3 Max is for max performance workflows.
@jpracing893
@jpracing893 6 месяцев назад
I have an M2 Pro 16” and this video confirmed my thoughts when I first saw the core count. Basically no differences besides efficiency
@robshaw2639
@robshaw2639 6 месяцев назад
Yes - I would very much like to see how CrossOver performs on the M3 - be aware v23 now has some degree of Metal support, so it would be good to test both the Metal and the Vulkan options (I get better fps in Metal, but it has some strange artifact bugs sometimes). I realize I probably wont get my game of choice, but FWIW, I'd like to see Guild Wars 2 in CrossOver on both the Metal and Vulkan modes!
@rpaulseymour
@rpaulseymour 6 месяцев назад
Curious if there’s even a way to benchmark stable diffusion ML image generation? No one does this. But, if you do creative work this will or already is a thing.
@Ivan_1986
@Ivan_1986 6 месяцев назад
Staying super happy with my M1 Pro MacBook Pro 14 (full spec CPU, 32 GB of RAM and 4TB SSD). Should serve well for years to come. *Just figured out I was not subscribed to the channel, while Luke consistently provides some of the best Mac hardware comparisons out there.👍 Fixed the omission.🤝
@tycjanjakubczyk
@tycjanjakubczyk 6 месяцев назад
For a person who owns MacBook 16 Intel 2019 and heavily works in Final Cut Pro (it's "a bit" laggy) what do you guys recommend?
@jno5
@jno5 6 месяцев назад
Is an M2 Max a better option to the M3 Pro…..? I’d like to see you do those test to find out. I was thinking of replacing my very very old MacBook Pro (over 10yrs old) with a new one but I want it to last for years but don’t use power hungry apps but need it to still be fully usable in 5yrs+ time, so I don’t need the power or cost of an M3 Max so was thinking a mid range M3 Pro, but after seeing this I’d thinking an M2 Max might be a better option. Your thoughts please….?
@BallisticTip
@BallisticTip 6 месяцев назад
I jumped from the m1 base to the m3 pro 32gb 16inch, and I love the change. Today was my first full day using it for work, and left the day at about 60% when it is normally about at about 20% on the m1. Fantastic boost. I think the E cores verses the P cores was a great idea.
@affieuk
@affieuk 6 месяцев назад
What are you using your machine for and I assume you went for 36GB RAM, where do you see most of your RAM being consumed. Regarding battery life, do you remember have well the battery held up when the M1 was new?
@kamranmirza5337
@kamranmirza5337 6 месяцев назад
Do you have the 11 core or 12 core m3 pro? I wonder if the the m3 pro with less cores has better battery life. And you mean the 14 inch MacBook Pro right?
@dandrydog
@dandrydog 6 месяцев назад
Love how this comment is actually useful
@danielton9577
@danielton9577 6 месяцев назад
@@kamranmirza533716 inch comes with the 12 core M3 Pro as the minimum config.
@BallisticTip
@BallisticTip 6 месяцев назад
@@kamranmirza5337 Yes, I moved from the 14 inch to the 16 inch m3 pro. I have the higher core count, and im not sure the difference between those two models as far as battery, I wouldn't think it would make more than a percent or two different, especially depending on load.
@gargallant9811
@gargallant9811 6 месяцев назад
Luke, here’s a test request. Can you test a Mac studio with M2 ultra versus a maxed out M3 max I’m guessing 128 ram but whatever you’ve got. Need a production machine *now*and was waiting for the M3 to hit- look forward to your advice. thanks.
@jfmezei
@jfmezei 6 месяцев назад
I am curious on the difference between performavce vs efficiency cores. Just the clock rate but essentuially the same logic/transistors/diodes inside? A "pro" model would be expected to be all performance with perhas one efficiency core for when machine is idle or used to type emails. Same with desktops. The limit on perofrmance may be due to thermal considerations to keep sound level low. But that means the machine needs to lose the "Pro" monicker.
@dhk1
@dhk1 6 месяцев назад
Were there any differences in the Ram sizes in these machines?
@kubatism6658
@kubatism6658 6 месяцев назад
Hi Luke, most of ppl that are going to switch are probably M1 users - testing these against M3 would be great 👍 thx for awesome content!
@Michael-fr2xn
@Michael-fr2xn Месяц назад
Hello. At the same price would you buy a Macbook Pro 14 with an M2 Max 32Gb Ram ou an M3 pro CPU 18Gb Ram? Thanks 😊
@l.s.11
@l.s.11 6 месяцев назад
I think you should equalize screen brightness when running these sorts of tests. I don't know if you did, you didn't mention it. Seems like you might've been at max brigthness. But it could very well impact the performance of the M3 Pro battery.
@bsiah9073
@bsiah9073 6 месяцев назад
Awesome video, when you get the chance can you please add M1 into the list? Just wanted to see how they all compared in terms on performance and battery efficiency, all the silicone chips
@Alex-vp4ky
@Alex-vp4ky 6 месяцев назад
8:25 This lines up with my early guesses that reduction in p cores but increase in e cores should result in battery gains. Yes performance obviously takes a hit, but the improvements made to the core speeds on top of 3nm and any other internal tweaks should mean that it drains less power in heavy tasks and that light tasks can be done quicker and thus return to idle faster and save battery.
@goginnorn
@goginnorn 4 месяца назад
what should I get to edit 4k video in premiere pro without lag and proxies?
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