M4 iPad Pro review - too ambitious?

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The new 2024 M4 iPad Pro 13” and 11” are astounding pieces of technology. They incorporate the best OLED display tech I’ve ever seen along with the bleeding edge of powerful, efficient processor silicon and cram it all into an “impossibly thin” chassis. This new slimness makes these devices a joy to use and handle, especially with the redesigned Magic Keyboard! In this video I give my initial review after using the 13” model for a few days. I discuss the new thin design, insane display quality, incredible performance with the M4 along with briefly touch on the keyboard and Apple Pencil Pro (both of which I’ll cover in dedicated review videos). Equally important though - I highlight the fact that these new iPad Pros may be “too ambitious” for what they currently run, iPadOS 17. All we can do is hope that at WWDC ’24, iPad Pro is finally graced with an operating system it deserves!
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@NoahHerman 4 месяца назад

I re-uploaded! "ambitious" was misspelled in the intro. I spent way too long making it to keep that typo online lmao. Hope you enjoy :)

@shawnsoap 4 месяца назад

too ambishice 🔥

@NoahHerman 4 месяца назад

@@shawnsoap i saw "ambitous" and went AH HELL NAH, we gotta go bald 😂😭

@PLANETWATERMELON 4 месяца назад

Happens to all of us RU-vidrs.

@stanford19 4 месяца назад

Appreciate the OCD bro hahaha. I honestly don't know what users want from the iPad.. but I do agree that making the interface more mac like when its docked makes sense. Apart from that, the iPad already excels at what a slab of glass is supposed to excel at.

@specialmoose 4 месяца назад

@NoahHerman what video editing software are you using?

@LordAshura 4 месяца назад

99% of users probably would not see day to day difference of this ipad over a M2, M1, or heck even a 2018 Ipad pro

@mariaerdgzn 4 месяца назад

The only thing I wish I had is the new Apple Pencil, but yeah I bought my M2 7 months ago (and finished paying for it last month) so I won’t be changing it anytime soon

@titinicknicktoce9861 4 месяца назад

exactly using ipad pro 2020..

@mikel5391 4 месяца назад

yeah mostly... only time you'll notice a slight difference is doing something specific. Something high intensive app or program like editing or gaming. Other than that for the most part, they'll feel the same.

@techinrl9869 4 месяца назад

True. Most people will also not notice any difference in day to day stuff on an MacBook Air compared to a Mac Studio Ultra. No day to day stuff stresses out any M-series processor. It’s only when you get to the heavy duty apps where the power may make a difference.

@mikel5391 4 месяца назад

@@techinrl9869 Yep.. very true. Ipad pros even the 2018 A12x chip is already powerful and smooth for day to day stuff. Now if your gaming or editing on an 2018 iPad Pro now in 2024 where these apps are getting updated. You'll notice a difference.. Like gaming for example on Cod Mobile or something similar where its high graphics. The a12x Chip on the 2018 would lag and or freeze the game. Same thing with other high intensive programs. But for basic tasks, texting, emailing, web surfing, watching videos, music, spreadsheets, to do lists, pdfs and all that. the 2018 is still more than enough powerful and smooth for that. And same with MacBook Air M1. STILL a beast to this day.

@AlanMitchellTech 4 месяца назад

I think it’s cool that they put an m4 chip in this new iPad before the Mac gets it. This tells me Apple may be planning something good with these new iPads.

@dshu15 4 месяца назад

Not necessarily, they’re likely just future proofing since they release iPad Pro every 18-24 months.

@AzrealJ 4 месяца назад

They had to for the tandem oled display, no other reason than that.

@palps797 4 месяца назад

Glaze

@hey_bucklebob 4 месяца назад

I don't really think so. 2 reasons: we've thought this before when they added the M1 chips and nothing really materialised, unless we count stage Manager, which came out over a year later. Secondly, I think Apple are pivoting hard to ensure they keep up with AI developments, and I the M4 is designed with AI in mind (?)

@palps797 4 месяца назад

@@hey_bucklebob I think they released it to keep up with other companies like nvidia But it really isn’t that impressive

@TLSYoutube 4 месяца назад

I agree they might not have to make an macOS copy but the IPad OS should have a PRO version when connected to keyboard and mouse that transforms the iPad into a more MacOS like experience

@delanodouglas6390 4 месяца назад

Perhaps they could add MacOS when connected to a keyboard and mouse or track pad, a monitor and power. The issue with MacOS and an iPad would likely be power usage and battery drainage.

@tomajovanovic9566 4 месяца назад

I was going to buy the M4 iPad but then I changed my mind and chose the S9 Ultra just because of the Dex mode. It’s a shame Apple still didn’t make that function available

@bovineox1111 4 месяца назад

This is the rumour

@ricarmig 4 месяца назад

@@delanodouglas6390 the macOS and iPadOS ATM share a huge chunk of their core and are optimized the same way, that’s why you get great battery life out of a MBA. They differ mainly in terms of UI, Rosetta 2 and how apps present themselves to the user. I bet if they compiled a macOS but with the iPadOS UI, it would run as you wanted it to. It’s not a question of if, but why doesn’t Apple do that. They will eventually do that, but not until sales go down quite a bit. This iPad will sell better because of the screen and powerful M4, maybe when the next version is out they’ll do that but without the Rosetta 2.

@LanceJadenPasion 2 месяца назад

Iz it nanotexture

@danielworrell3438 4 месяца назад

Coming from a m1 IPad Pro user the 3 upgrades that interest me are the 1000 nits on sdr sustained the m4 chip and the oled display

@prestonmacgotthamac3735 4 месяца назад

Exactly why I’m upgraded only less self esteem people will disagree

@ricarmig 4 месяца назад

@@prestonmacgotthamac3735 people don’t have to agree with you buy, it’s your choice, it doesn’t have to make sense

@prestonmacgotthamac3735 4 месяца назад

@@ricarmig right

@user-gy3kl5rd1l 4 месяца назад

1. What you will normally see is 600 nits. 1000 nits is only for extremely bright condition. 2. m4 is just a marketing twist. Nothing special compared to m3. 3. Oled display is good, but since iPad display even with ips lcd was so good, most of the people cannot tell the difference unless placing them side by side. I save your money mate.

@danielworrell3438 4 месяца назад

@@user-gy3kl5rd1l I have a m1 iPad Pro mini led with 600 nits sdr and 1600 nits hdr I’ve had it for a while hdr content looks amazing but its limited and sdr content is not so bright the 1000 nits sustained on sdr will make a difference

@just4justincase 4 месяца назад

I’m fine with it being too ambitious. Reminds of of old school Apple pushing the envelope with bleeding edge just for the sake of it, even if most people won’t utilize or understand it. If this can somehow lead to iPhones getting thinner and lighter again while retaining their rigidity and battery life I’m all for it.

@liam4184 4 месяца назад

I wouldn't mind so much if it didn't push the prices up to crazy levels as well. Innovation is good, but not if no one can afford it.

@MyNameJeff.. 4 месяца назад

Lol dork

@devanshmalikk 4 месяца назад

intro was golden❤

@LanceJadenPasion 2 месяца назад

Iz it nanotexture

@KC-fl4sx 4 месяца назад

Gave you a sub for the simple fact that you called out the absurdity of the 'does it bend' videos.

@bentendo_ 4 месяца назад

Honestly i think it would be awesome if apple designed a feature for ipadOS that operated similarly to Samsung DeX.

@MorganTheGorgon 4 месяца назад

These upgrades seem really substantial, I think this is the best update in years-I’m going to stay with my 2021 M1 Pro, though, because $129 for a new pencil, $349 for a new keyboard plus $1199 for a new iPad is just yeesh. I really hate that the new accessories aren’t compatible with iPads released even just a year ago, and vice versa. Excited to see what comes from WWDC this year tho 👀

@ktms1188 4 месяца назад

I’m kind of conspiratorial, my thought is they release the iPads a month and a half before WWDC, just outside of the return windows, . That so they can judge the sales numbers to decide if they need to release the most advanced iPadOS features to bump up sales, ie more MacBook like. Then if the sales numbers hit where they needed, they can shave off a few features for the next release to pump sales then.

@Mr_useless 4 месяца назад

I kinda want the new keyboard because it actually has a escape button

@demetricjackson8046 4 месяца назад

That’s the only thing I wanted was a new keyboard for my M1 iPad. Why wouldn’t apple make it for all iPads. waiting on someone to test would the M1 or M2 work on new Magic Keyboard

@klaymoon1 4 месяца назад

Great review! As an owner of a glorified $2k youtube watching machine (M1 12'9"), I agree with everything said here.

@daa5014 4 месяца назад

120HZ, Cellular, touch screen, pencil input, FaceID biometric, dockable on keyboard. My M1 iPad Pro replaced my computer. This ups the ante. The OLED panel is just awesome.

@intestinomedicino 4 месяца назад

I don't get reviewers nowadays, it's just too much cpu, too thin, too iPad like. Don't get me wrong your videos are in par with the ones from MKBHD but I don't watch these type of videos to decide wether to buy or not to buy a product, but because they are really funny and entertaining and clearly the production is top of the notch, I just can't stop watching them; meanwhile the videos from the old lady with cool t-shirts, gets to the pros and cons of each product and who should buy it, and so far she has been right about them.

@TheAurahh 4 месяца назад

These intros are one of a kind to look at 😍😍

@Refael_Shlomo 3 месяца назад

Hey ! Considering the gain in weight and thinness , woud you recommand this 13 inch model for a usage without the magic keyboard ? Like holding it in one hand in a classroom or cofeeshop with the pencil in the other hand and taking notes . I find the 11 inch screen too cramped for serious note taking and pdf annotation .. also is there an option in actual ipadOS to split the virtual keyboard in two in portrait mode ? Thanks for the videos , keep going !

@Smooveee 23 дня назад

It’s not bad holding it and I’m sure they sell accessories where you can have a handle on the back of the iPad. I’m a salesman and take my iPad m4 pro with me for site surveys at customers locations, It’s been great to take notes and pictures.

@Refael_Shlomo 22 дня назад

@@Smooveee thanks for answering me ! Yes i tried it in apple store and feels more than okay for use in tablet mode . The only thing drowing me back is the lack of split virtual keyboard . I plan to use it without a keyboard and the virtual keyboard is too hard to use in portrait mode and simply unusable in my opinion in landscape mode ... I wonder if it's a feature they brought back with the last ipad os update 18 .. if yes .. i'll go for it !

@b3naqua 4 месяца назад

Can’t wait to try the 11” M4 vs the 2018 11” 🤯

@TheCAPTAINawe 4 месяца назад

Love that you are getting invited to Apple events. I have been watching since you had 50K subs. How far we have come.

@NoahHerman 4 месяца назад

appreciate you ❤️

@PerpetualPreponderer 4 месяца назад

They can't even give the option for a proper mouse pointer in the UI. Temper your expectations accordingly.

@m.hreels9822 4 месяца назад

I just got done watching your shorts. Perfect timing to watch the whole video 👍🏻

@LanceJadenPasion 2 месяца назад

Iz it nanotexture

@jessechristman1471 4 месяца назад

But can it lay flat on a table?

@bryanbuff 4 месяца назад

Been fun watching your channel grow and your skills sharpen.

@LanceJadenPasion 2 месяца назад

Iz it nanotexture

@SimplyPops 4 месяца назад

we dont even have a calculator app yet if we do on iPadOS 18 it took 14 years

@00z53 4 месяца назад

We have other pro apps that makes ipad experience better, no calculator is needed

@MathewWeaver73 4 месяца назад

Boo boo hoo.😂😂😂😂😂😂

@neilm2 4 месяца назад

Then we can say we have a Tip Calculator

@dedark5067 4 месяца назад

It sucks that only the pro models have 120hz otherwise I'd take the iPad Air 10/10 times. It feels like the pro is providing power that almost nobody needs.

@Smooveee 23 дня назад

So worth it though. The 120hz new oled display is amazinggggggg

@CS-pg4go 9 дней назад

same. It's the only reason why got a pro phone and an ipad pro because of the 120hz. I couldnt justify buying a macbookpro tho and i absolutely love my macbook air. Otherwise, I would have a regular phone and an ipad air if it had promotion.

@RYANROOTPHOTO 4 месяца назад

Seems bonkers for an iPad, but, it's still just an iPad. I think I will use this release to just buy a slightly older iPad that will still feel new to me as I'm still rocking the 2018 iPad Pro.

@nswms992000 4 месяца назад

Your M4 iPad Pro intro is way better than that flaming hot garbage that Apple released when they were first introducing it. I mean, how dare they destroy the Pixar Luxo lamp like that!! I love my 12.9 inch M1 iPad Pro, so I'm gonna play with the M4 model in the store to see if there's enough changes for me to even warrant an upgrade. Otherwise, I'll just stick with my M1 Pro. Excellent job as always, Noah.

@HOUSEMDSB7 4 месяца назад

Entrance went HARD! Great review Noah

@stevenqirkle 4 месяца назад

This started out so positive and then got so negative, lol. Totally agree though that Apple needs to do something about iPadOS.

@jdnyc718 4 месяца назад

it's thin until you put a case on it.. which is absolutely required

@oshoair 2 месяца назад

I’m still contemplating if I should go with the glossy vs nano texture display knowing that I’m getting the 1TB either way.

@allemander 4 месяца назад

Fabulous work, as usual, Noah. 👏🏼👏🏼

@dgutie8 4 месяца назад

I finally got my M4 iPad Pro…I throughly enjoy it, but one thing that sticks out is the bezels…they seem so big! I wish they would shrink those bezels! The new Magic Keyboard is awesome. Coming from a 2018 iPad Pro, the new M4 iPad and keyboard much lighter.

@dmarr4941 4 месяца назад

That intro was AMAZING. Great job!

@LanceJadenPasion 2 месяца назад

Iz it nanotexture

@george3814 4 месяца назад

Killer into Noah! Got an M4 iPad Pro 13 inch coming tomorrow, upgrading from a 11 inch (Pre-M1 Series) Excited to upgrade.

@NinjaKiller1022 4 месяца назад

As a 2018 iPad Pro 12.9 inch user, this M4 iPad Pro has me excited like I was back in 2018, but Apple must deliver on the software side. If they don’t, I will just keep using my current iPad since it would be useless for me to upgrade if barely any software updates make its way to the new iPad Pro. Like many, I’m hopeful, yet doubtful as well, because Apple has neglected the iPad.

@nuggyfresh6430 4 месяца назад

Fantastic review thanks! With good understanding of the tandem OLED

@LanceJadenPasion 2 месяца назад

Iz it nanotexture

@atimm9497 4 месяца назад

Easily the best review so far. I wish I saw the Keyboard more since that’s half the product for me. But very informative and well made otherwise 👏

@Uwu-0-0-0 4 месяца назад

You earned a subscriber, well done bro!

@stpav2698 4 месяца назад

Pricing is crazy . Just get the m2 pro 12.9! It’s like 900$ and much better than the air ones . I really don’t understand how someone can buy the air for 600/800 $ , no logic ! The new pros are too pricy . Just get m2 pro 🤩😍

@lostgleammedia 4 месяца назад

I would say more battery not thinner, but actually the thinness does make sense for a 13inch ipad

@NoahHerman 4 месяца назад

as processors get even smaller transistor wise, battery life will only improve!

@lostgleammedia 4 месяца назад

@@NoahHerman but battery life could always be better in a thicker body

@ChrisLawley 4 месяца назад

Great work Noah!

@Evie0133 4 месяца назад

DUDEEEEE that intro made my pants fall off, that was AMAZING :D

@MichaelNNguyen 4 месяца назад

My 2018 iPad Pro still run strong

@GU_WOP_O 4 месяца назад

Glad I sold my M1 iPad pro. Still got 900 for it 2 months ago. M4 1TB should deliver today. Well worth the $900 difference for me

@MrMcgoo33 4 месяца назад

Been using an iPad Pro 12.9 (2018) and time to upgrade. Not pushing the limits on any of the devices. Trying to decide to buy the iPad Pro more for display and touch screen or buy a MB Pro or MB Air for about the same price. Not sure, but thinking I’m going to miss the touch screen

@applehamster832 Месяц назад

this ipad has a great screen, but does it affect your eyes? what is your experience with it? i'm going to buy one for myself, but i'm a little worried about the PWM

@navarro360 3 месяца назад

I like how Noah makes sure that the iPad he's holding doesn't go to sleep every few times 🤣

@GlucoseYummy 4 месяца назад

Your intros are insane Noah

@pickjerry 4 месяца назад

Is 256 GB enough, want the 13” but I’m not sure if 256 will be enough stora

@codythep 4 месяца назад

Yeah thats plenty for almost all usecases unless you’ll edit photo/video directly on it

@susanleach9106 4 месяца назад

I bought the 11 inch with 256. I have the previous iPad Pro and had 256 in that as well. It was plenty enough. Apple has just shipped mine due Thursday (in Australia)

@TheDumontShow 4 месяца назад

@@codythepjust use a external SSD drive for the editing. I am sure that you can use an OTG cable on an iPad. Get a Crucial X8 1TB SSD and you should be straight. The drive is pocket sized

@meyerlandman8762 4 месяца назад

I really hope this Tandem OLED panel makes its way to the new iPhone 16 series (if possible/feasible).

@mr.jellyfish5544 4 месяца назад

This video looks awesome on my m1 mini-LED iPad Pro which I’ll be happily keeping for at least an extra year. Actually had it replaced recently due to 2 busted microphones so it’s basically still like new. Have the pencil, hardly use it. NEVER purchased the keyboard because the virtual keyboard is more than enough. If I was able to write a 10 page college paper using the virtual keyboard, and the physical keyboard won’t even help me with Japanese, then there is no point to ever purchase one at this point for my personal usage. That being said, it’s time for hybridOS (equal elements of iOS, MacOS, VisionOS) to finally hit the iPad. iPadOS is just 90% iOS and needs to go. An actual radical change of the OS is much needed, and slapping macOS won’t help it much IMO.

@LMActionsports 4 месяца назад

My M4 iPad Pro 13 with 1tb and apple Pro pencil will be here tomorrow. I can't wait to start editing some photos and videos on it and see how much of a difference it is compared to my M1 iPad Pro with1tb

@MrAmin7000 4 месяца назад

The intro was some MKBHD level intro, it was littttt

@AliAbidalkareem 4 месяца назад

Mac OS is mouse-click optimized. IpadOS is touch optimized OS. Let those two OSes evolve naturally without forcing stuff on them.

@doaflamingo3713 4 месяца назад

till then all the power in ipad is wasted, and apple should stop claiming its a laptop replacement

@codythep 4 месяца назад

Hot take

@gwvaio 4 месяца назад

They literally created a magic keyboard for IPadOS. It’s now “mouse-click” optimized as you put it.

@AliAbidalkareem 4 месяца назад

@@gwvaio The keyboard/trackpad is an accessory to ipad that allows you to do lightweight work. Real mouse-click work is done on laptops not ipads.

@gwvaio 4 месяца назад

@@AliAbidalkareem lol that’s a software issue. Not a hardware problem. A click is a click. The device doesn’t care

@anonymous_lol 4 месяца назад

Why can’t they make something like Microsoft surface pro that’s combines tablet and laptop . The only issue I had with iPads is lack of apps. For some one like me ( software developer) we don’t even have a single app that does coding.

@shanemontgomery8846 4 месяца назад

Been waiting for this.

@SaadKirangwa 4 месяца назад

As long as I can’t use full or Desktop Ver of Microsoft Office suite. I’ll always keep it Mac

@dodger1x 4 месяца назад

Now I get it why they made it so thin! The Magic Keyboard case! It makes sense. With the old one it felt «top heavy»… this is now closer to a macbook air.

@jcru40 4 месяца назад

It’s awesome but people please realize that the other iPad pros are still great even the air 13 SO NO need to spend all that crazy money . I was gonna get but instead I stood with my awesome m2 iPad 13 pro and just bought a DJI drone and DJI gimble and still had money left over lol

@timnadeau1250 4 месяца назад

Great video yet again Noah. Incredible device, insane hardware, objective review. Let’s see what goes down like you said with iPad OS 18 at WWDC. Not holding my breath tho…..

@ImStillStealingSteel 4 месяца назад

Loved that intro, Noah ❤❤❤

@Patrick76399 4 месяца назад

Hi. Do you have the M1 and M2 iPad Pros as well for a side-by-side comparison video with the M4 iPad Pro?

@reviewrapida 4 месяца назад

Users: we need better software Apple: Better hardware Users: not hardware: software Apple: yeah, hardware Users: s-o-f-t-w-a-r-e Apple: h…a…r…d…w…a…r…e

@heraldcondes1278 4 месяца назад

Damn that intro! 💯🔥

@ItsmeEz10 4 месяца назад

The low washing machine twinkles in the background are distracting. I've checked my washing machine 2 times before I figured out it was youtube

@NoahHerman 4 месяца назад

my washing machine was not on lol

@xxdatguyxx8464 4 месяца назад

the wake up at 6:45 was smooth ngl

@samuelj.amakiri1727 4 месяца назад

Hi Noah, great video, top content. What do you use to achieve your iPad desktop look please? It's absolutely insane and I need to have it. Thanks.

@disadadi8958 4 месяца назад

8:30 no it's not. You don't need more computational power if you just duplicate the image to two displays. You don't need to render the image twice to make it work.

@disadadi8958 4 месяца назад

More efficient chip and same battery life as before just because they had to make it thinner and cut on batter capacity. What for? Form over function? Thanks!

@whatsupunderthebed7755 4 месяца назад

If they have managed to fit Face ID into this thin iPad, could this be a hint that the MacBooks will finally get Face ID soon?

@visionpersistance 4 месяца назад

The question of “a lack of ambition” should be properly addressed to the rest of the industry as against Apple

@sanu_films 4 месяца назад

Intro was lit❤‍🔥

@Blkmanwithanewpaper 3 месяца назад

The minimal updates to the hardware, in my opinion, do not specifically justify the purchase. I think Apple is offering the bare minimum in exchange for high profit and return simply because of the brand name. The economic situation in the US is changing to where purchasing something like this seems specifically out of reach and could possibly lead to buyer’s remorse. However, the operating system looks interesting and promising.

@sjb2471 4 месяца назад

I’m confused; why is Apple (and everyone who reviews it) speaking about its thickness in terms of millimetres? In all other areas the USA uses imperial measurements, so why suddenly metric here?

@MySavageDynasty 4 месяца назад

I was waiting specifically for you to upload your ipad video. Let me grab a cold one.

@JeadilsonBezerra 4 месяца назад

When iPadOS comes with a proper “Finder” and haveFull feature apps will make the iPad an incredible device

@mden2490 4 месяца назад

It’s safe to say that Vision Pro was a flop and a gimmick. They did not sell very many units of them, and they should have focused on other areas like AI and dare we say Mac OS for the iPad. You surely gave Apple some cover as to why they are behind the rest of the other manufacturers? I am glad another reviewer on RU-vid finally said it, Apple has too many products, it’s time they stop worrying so much about the pocket book and finally bring Mac OS to the iPad Pro, and a meaningful iOS revamp!

@fox_flow4443 4 месяца назад

I think apple is actually doing their best to make the iPad more powerful software and hardware wise. In my view, apple is trying to incorporate the same features and functionality, that we know and love from the Mac, but all with a touch interface and optimized for iPad. But this development, that I’m talking about takes a long time. Apple is known for that, because everything should work out perfectly in the end. Maybe apple could even give us a date, by which the iPad has become a touch based computer, but even if they were to know it, they wouldn’t say it, since that would lead to a decrease of sales.

@fox_flow4443 4 месяца назад

My apologies , if I made some mistakes. My English is not that great yet.