MAC PRO 5,1 BIG SUR 11.2.3 PRO TOOLS 2021 OPENCORE (DO NOT INSTALL 11.3!) 

I just updated to 11.6.4 with OC 0.7.8 all is good.

You should check out the opencore facebook page, some folks post about the Titan Ridge, and I think it was working with Big Sur but don't quote me on that and it depends on what devices work with it like audio interfaces etc. I don't have one so I can't speak from experience. facebook.com/groups/278717320142078

@@MacSoundSolutions Thanks I will check it out 👍🏻

cool glad it worked out.

Sorry not really sure what I was running back then, I am on Opencore 0.7.7 and Big Sur 11.6.1 with Pro Tools Ultimate 2021. You can check Avids website for what versions are comparable with Catalina, I would install Big Sur as it’s been pretty solid with Pro tools, Catalina Was also pretty solid.

Ultimate yes HDX no but you can.

@@MacSoundSolutions Thank you. YEs im trying to get all updated but the SAPPHIRE Pulse Radeon RX 580 Card I got to start my upgrade needs both power connectors leaving none for the HDX card... Lots of posts about it online but not many set solutions. I was hoping you might have it solved.! Thank you for your updates and all. ITs great to see how you work the process - You are very thorough and I appreciate that !

@@jeffeitzen6570 if you do the pixlas mod you can then power the hdx card search house of moth here on you tube or google it.

@@MacSoundSolutions I just watched his video today. The you for that. Hopefully I will be back to music more than fixing computers soon Thank you again

Are you using Eucon? The latest version is only for Mac OS 11.4 and up, I had some laggyness with it, but I’m doubt that’s your issue. Are your graphics only laggy in pro tools or all apps? Maybe hardware acceleration is not working for some reason. My graphics with my Rx5700xt are fine no lag, three monitors two at 1080 and main one in 2k. If you are using Eucon run the uninstaller reboot and see if that helps.

@@MacSoundSolutions I tested it with Logic and that’s as smooth as Catalina. Only PT seems to be showing the lag. I do have EuCon actually. I run 4x Artist Mixes and an Artist Control. So that’s worth trying. I’ll launch PT in low-res mode and see if the lag’s still there. I’ve had issues with 4K monitors and PT before, but not this bad. The Vega 64 should be more than capable of that task… Love the idea of a 5700XT, but graphics cards are just too expensive at the moment!

@@CoresMusic yeah gpus are crazy expensive I got mine for 350 and returned the first 5700xt cause it was almost 400 I should have kept it and sold it later… I have heard that pro tools does not play well with 4K but 2k seems fine one my system. I would try uninstalling Eucon and see if that changes things.

The easiest is to just use a windows machine if you have one you can use and create a new windows boot drive on an SSD. You want it to be a UEFI install not legacy, legacy is what bootcamp uses and does notn work with opencore. So I actually used my older bootcamp windows install to create a new windows 10 install on an SSD . You could also can do this if you don't have a PC you can use. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j24xLcCU8xw.html but if you have a friend with a windows machine its easier to just create a new system drive then stick it in your opencore Mac Pro and it will work. Two important notes is don't install windows in Slot 1 of your drive bays. Put it in 2 3 or 4. Second to boot into windows always shutdown then start the machine and then select your windows drive and shut down again when your done and when you boot up again it will go back to booting into mac OS. Don't use the system start up disk and set it to windows and then restart this can cause problems, and don't restart the mac and then select the windows drive in the bootpicker as you can get stuck in a boot loop. You can restart in windows once you are booted into windows and restart back into windows but when you want to switch OS from mac to Windows and back to Mac always shut down the machine and then boot and select the system you want, do not do a restart and switch systems or you can get stuck in a windows boot repair loop that becomes a real pain in the ass. It took me a while to figure this out. Just use opencore boot picker at boot to select windows after a fresh boot.

@@MacSoundSolutions Thank you for that detailed and super helpful reply. I bought a cheap USB to SATA cable for my SSD, followed these instructions (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j24xLcCU8xw.html) and off I went. My system has never worked better!

@@herewedescend nice! Yeah gaming in windows is awesome on my Mac :)

What card do you recommend?

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A8hPC_DDq6Q.html or you can clone your current system with carbon copy cloner app and then boot from the M2

@@MacSoundSolutions thank you Which drive can be use ?

@@manojchristy844 You need to be running Mojave or later. Also check out this site for a lot of good info blog.greggant.com/posts/2018/05/07/definitive-mac-pro-upgrade-guide.html He shows you the best card to put your NVME in to get the best speeds, or the speed will be limited but it just depends on budget etc. Samsung NVME www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-Plus-MZ-V7S1T0B/dp/B07MFZY2F2/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2WYD4NVUO7EEO&keywords=samsung%2Bevo%2Bpro%2B970&qid=1637093101&qsid=130-1142389-0967613&sprefix=Samsung%2BEvo%2BPro%2Cinstant-video%2C157&sr=8-2&sres=B07MFZY2F2%2CB07BYHGNB5%2CB07DFJ3YQR%2CB07BN217QG%2CB07DFJHRNJ%2CB07DB942BT%2CB08GLX7TNT%2CB08V83JZH4%2CB08QBJ2YMG%2CB0786QNSBD%2CB08T1QQZ1T%2CB0793GNLJF%2CB07YS5VHQQ%2CB07DN4VMQX%2CB079W9STXH%2CB07822Z77M&srpt=COMPUTER_DRIVE_OR_STORAGE&th=1

The only fix is to replace the WiFi card with a newer WiFi / Bluetooth 4.0 card. I have not done this but they are available on Amazon and eBay and support handoff and airdrop. I use an Ethernet connection.

I just upped to 0.7.8 still on 11.6.1 will up to .4 soon.

@@MacSoundSolutions I had to take a couple of tries to get the updater to work, I dont know why. It went through first go on my test machine but took 2 tries on my main. ... (they are not identical)

@@macguru9999 Just installed 11.6.4 all good so far. THe installer that the computer reboots into after downloading is called Macintosh hd which I find odd why Apple does that, it should be called "updater" or something like it.

@@MacSoundSolutions yes that threw me too, i selected my drive instead and it failed to install, so i just let it run like that and it worked

maybe you need a new driver or go to audio midi setup and try adding it again. You can also do a SMC resest. Choose Apple menu > Shut Down and wait for your Mac to shut down. Unplug the power cord. Wait 15 seconds. Plug the power cord back in. Wait 5 seconds, then press the power button again to turn on your Mac. This might fix the issue sometime USB ports just wig out.

@@MacSoundSolutions thanks . I used now a active usb hub between midi key and usb port. This fix it. I think the ports hav not enaugh power after the big sur and opencore installation. I don‘t know how to fix than internal But for now its working with the active hub.

I have a Gigabyte RX5700XT. It uses both power ports on the logic board 8 pin to 6 pin and 6 to 6, you can also go with a RX580 which only uses one power port. The RX5700XT is very expensive on the used marked\t right now. I bought mine new for 375 from newegg.

@@MacSoundSolutions Thank You

@@FRANKRICECOLD209 Keep in mind for the rx5700xt you have to be running Catalina or later. I think the RX580 works High Sierra and up. ALso the 5,1 last useable system is 11.2.3 but you have to have opencore installed, Mojave is the last supported Apple OS for Mac Pro 5,1s

I am on Big Sur 11.6 also testing Monterey, as long as you don’t have auto update turned on you will not be installing firmware updates or new OS by mistake and there has not been a firmware update since Mojave for the 5,1 Mac Pros. Opencore gives you a bootpicker with non Mac GPUs so no need for rEFIND. But Nvidia cards are no longer supported past Mojave, a RX580 is the recommended GPU for Catalina and up and there are others but you would need to do a power mod for them. Martin Lo’s opencore package is the way to go, it depends on what OS you plan to install to know which version of Opencore to install. You can install opencore on a usb thumb drive to try it out, it doesn’t have to be on the system drive. What Mac OS are you looking to run? And what GPU do you have?

@@MacSoundSolutions I have a Radeon 7950 with 3gb ram, so I'll still see the boot screen. Was hoping I could used my Nvidia GPU, but guess that won't be possible. Right now, I just want to run Big Sur. My mac is the 2.66 ghz 12 core, and I have 32 gigs of ram. I just got an M2 pcie card, and a 1tb SSD for it so was gonna run it on that. From what you said...it seems It should work, tho I won't have the most powerful GPU, but should be good enough til GPU prices drop.

@@jerrogance it looks like you can use a 7950 with Big Sur.

@@MacSoundSolutions Thanks for the info

​@@jerrogance Best clone your system and install the update over the clone, or on a clean fresh disk for testing.

Hey no I don’t have an hdx card, my Midas M32r is my interface vis usb. The rx5700xt uses both power ports.

@@MacSoundSolutions Hi, I need help please. how do you enable Avid HDX Card? I install latest open core 0.8.0 and Big Sur 11.6.6 everything is working fine except Pro Tools Core Audio, I install latest drivers and nothing happen, when I select Avid HDX Audio the Applications freeze. please tell me what can I do? Thanks in advance...

@@sanmateo1806 hey not sure as I don’t use HDX just native but I do run Pro Tools Ultimate and Big Sur was solid. Have your tried a pram reset or reseating the hdx cards.

@@MacSoundSolutions Please tell me how?

@@sanmateo1806 To reset your PRam hold down “command” “option” and the P and the R key as soon as you hit the power button and wait for two chimes it may take quite a while before the second time happens then let go of the keys, if you google it you will get the idea

Audio now imports when importing video like it used to. You can install the latest version of Pro Tools on Catalina and bounce to QuickTime is now working but honestly I have not tested that yet but looks like it does and is no longer a beta, they added new codecs to bounce to, but what’s odd is it seems like you have to choose a codec where as before it bounced whatever you imported. As far as certain plugins working or not with Big Sur, check this out www.pro-tools-expert.com/big-sur-audio-compatibility-chart all of mine seem to work even older versions of waves.

@@MacSoundSolutions thank you. Yes I definitely can use audio from a video now. But would that be the same on Big Sur? As in is there anything else that doesn’t function on the latest Pro Tools on Big Sur? According to one of their webpage everything should be fine. I’m not familiar with that codecs stuff, I only work with videos for class, I’m more on the audio side. I’ll be sure to check out that link, but you obviously have a bigger setup that me so if all of yours work then mine probably will too haha. Might update tonight.

@@EJR20 get carbon copy cloner and backup your system first, that way you can boot off the backup if you run into issues, but so far all my plugins work but I only have about 5 different company’s of plugins installed. But so far it’s been good.

iMac? You can use Opencore Legacy Patcher to upgrade the OS passed what Apple supports.

Do not upgard to 11.3 and later only up to 11.2.3 works. I did not have to upgrade my firmware except when installing Mojave so beware, you need to get the older installer for Big Sur. If you did the Mojave update then you should be good with firmware updates. You can get older installers here mrmacintosh.com/category/macos-installer/?fbclid=IwAR2Po6xxAdXRBtkPge0mgPWwrvsOHYfd5I_bVtNfK5NXhio_YOeLZpDVK00

@@MacSoundSolutions will I got Big Sur 11.6 on 5,1 with open core broke itself after a reboot . Going back to Big Sur 11.2.3 because everything else dont like my OWC PCI , Accesion cards, sonnet tech usb -c card. Late bloom is a cool concept just working with setup

@@macgamer1973 The newest version of Opencore fixes the issue, I just installed it a few days ago, it is Martin Lo's 0.7.3 (V2). It;s installed on my NVME and I have had no issues. I will be uploading a video about it soon.

Getting what? A Mac Pro 5,1?

@@MacSoundSolutions yes a used one

@@kabirkhanna1894 not a bad price but what does it have in it. is it dual CPU or single. what processor. in other words what are the specs?

Roll back. Your drive will eventually corrupt. There is no current support and the issue is more to do with the firmware Apple implemented for PCI bus and not open core itself.

@@mansley1281 thank you! Actually I realized it after send the question. Apparently it will be complicated to do.

@@GHOMRICH28 This is how I might try to do it. Please follow at your own risk: If you have another drive and mac handy 1. Create 11.2.3 usb installer. github.com/corpnewt/gibMacOS or an other option. I would also install opencore on the usb if you need it. 2. Clone your existing drive to another drive. 3. Install the 11.3 drive on another mac (e.g. usb enclosure or whatever means) and boot the mac from it. 4. On your 5,1 reboot and choose the 11.2.3 installer and install 11.2.3. 5. If efi opencore is wiped, use usb or cloned 11.3 drive to boot and then reinstall opencore. 6. Use migration assistance to move files and apps from cloned drive to new 11.2.3 install.

From what I understand it has to do with Pcie storage like having your system on an NVME not being compatible with the new OS, if you install it on an SSD in bay 1 it most likely will work but you may still have problems with pcie cards. Which version of the beta are you trying to install? The only way to revert easily is from a cloned backup. Maybe it didn’t install I would shut down and reboot and see if your back to normal.

@@MacSoundSolutions I am SSd in bay1 and I will updete 11.3 but there was a problem during installation. How can I revert to previus, please???

@@RABstreamTV so you didn’t make a backup before installing? are you running opencore? Did you keep the 11.2.3 installer? You could try booting in. Recovery mode hold down command r while booting and see what system you can install, it might revert to Mojave.

@@MacSoundSolutions I didnt make bacup, I have install BigSur before (two months ago) with open core, recovery mode give me only 11.3 version to recovery sorry for my bad english..

@@RABstreamTV I would then boot off your backup and if it runs ok get corbon copy cloner, reformat your drive that has 11.3 and clone your older 11.2.3 system backup back onto that drive. You most likely will have to re install opencore as well and bless the drive. Also make sure SIP is turned off.

Maybe that works for a hackentosh but I think if it were that simple it would have been done as there are a lot of folks trying to figure out a fix. Give it a try on your 5,1 and report your findings here. facebook.com/groups/278717320142078/?multi_permalinks=506440624036412

Another poster below did the same, here is an earlier installer but its 12 gigs 11.2.3 www.dropbox.com/sh/qaq0jnx517p1ut8/AADdnB5piMSUBIbuqmE3Tpyma?dl=0 Its best if you have a backup of your system though and boot off of it and clon eit back to your systme drive after reformatting it if you can boot off the backup you can maybe grab files you need off the system.. You will most likely have to wipe the bad system clean and do a completer reinstall of opencore and 11.2.3 There may also be a way to reinstall an older systme by booting in recovery and using the terminal to download the older version from Apple. I will look into a bit more myself . You can join the facebook opencore group and ask questions there as well.

@@MacSoundSolutions Thanks guy, but it was the current version that was issued on 4/26 of Big Sur, Ver 11.3.0. It's funny whenI did the update for 11.2.3, it updated with no issues. Im going to try the re-install of Opencore and see if that does it ! I did make a Super Dupa Copy of my hard drive beforehand and booted from it and it work, but for some strange reason my OpenCore Boot Select is not seeing the drive upon boot up now.

@@joshweinstein5843 11.3 is not compatible so if you updated to it you need to revert back to 11.2.3 and stay there until the opencore guys figure a fix but it might not be fixable.

You can grab it from my Dropbox, it’s 12 gigs. www.dropbox.com/sh/qaq0jnx517p1ut8/AADdnB5piMSUBIbuqmE3Tpyma?dl=0

Make sure to have auto updates disabled.

And you must have opencore installed,

@@MacSoundSolutions Hi, Many thanks, downloading right now! I have installed Martin Lo's 0.70 package and as far as I can see on my MP 4,1/5,1 with Mojave, it is functioning at least as far as changing the boot rom (now 9144.0.7.0.0) and a PCIe drive that was 'external' is now 'internal', but no Boot Picker screen on my Radeon Sapphire HD 7970. I have a Mac Nvidia GT 120 that I can use. Do I need to do anything else before moving forward with installing Big Sur?

@@paulbailey6251 the boot picker only shows up on one of your video card outputs, most likely a display port, you may need an adapter for your monitor. I have three monitors and it only shows the boot picker on one monitor and the others are black so try a different output on your card with your monitor and you should get the bootpicker when you connect to the correct port.

Hard to say, what is your buffer set at? Set it to 512 see if that gets playback working. Check the playback engine and make sure it’s selected on your interface. If nothing works try removing all non Avid plugins to the unused plugins folder and make sure all avid plugins are up to date. If that works move the non avid plugins back into the plugins folder one at a times and test playback etc, one old plug-in can cause issues. But I would set your buffer to a high setting 512 or higher.

@@MacSoundSolutions thanks for answer! It is a clean session with no plugins. The buffer´s size doesnt matters because the error appears instantly when playback o record. With 1024 or 256, the results are the same. Only works when the second xeon is offline using cpuctl command.

@@Rarrorra very odd what interface are you using? I would check to make sure it is silected under hardware options, sometimes that changes to some other thing in the mac os sound prefs.

@@MacSoundSolutions i tried several playback engine (RME, AVID, and Protools Aggregate) For some reason, Internal speaker doesn´t work in the mac. All playback engines had problems with 2 cpu, but works charm with only one cpu. We tried change disk, GPU, memory slots and memory dimms. Any idea? Thanks for your time

@@MacSoundSolutions i tried Catalina, Monterey, Big Sur... same problem, Protools2022 doesnt work with 2 cpu, but works excelente with only one. Maybe some configuration in the opencore?