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Machining a keyway with the shaper 

Stefan Gotteswinter
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Just a little job, shaping a keyway into a gear - I took the oportunity to capture it on video to show you the process.

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11 янв 2015

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@624Dudley
@624Dudley Год назад
Hello Stefan, now in 2023, I remembered and re-watched this nice early video. I have a similar project to do and wanted inspiration. Thanks for providing! 👍 P.S. I do miss seeing the lovely Gack shaper.
@THEIRONWORKER
@THEIRONWORKER 8 лет назад
Nice video on the shaper keyway cutting . I always wondered if I was setting mine up right for keyway cutting .Now I can see someone else do it. And we are both doing the same way by centering the cutter to the hole by touching the surface Thanks
@bearsrodshop7067
@bearsrodshop7067 2 года назад
New to owning a shaper (Klopp 450) and watching every YT creator that shares work done on them. Restoration in progress Dec 2021 at Christmas, and plans are to wrap up in the spring of 22 (@@)!. Great vis and thx for sharing,,Bear in TX.
@mrmyford
@mrmyford 9 лет назад
hi Stefan, many thanks for sharing, always nice to see a shaper machine in action shapers are especially good for cutting keyways, good work as always regards...Keith in Swindon u.k
@radcliffeatkins3013
@radcliffeatkins3013 3 года назад
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@aserta
@aserta 9 лет назад
Really nice! Whatever excuse you have to put some video (if you have time) on the shaper working, is well appreciated. An old tool that still has plenty of use in today's computer controlled world.
@crookedriver2079
@crookedriver2079 7 лет назад
Thanks for uploading this Stefan! I have a job just like this coming up! I have a restored 1950's South Bend 7" shaper. I will try your method out with a scrap/dummy to make sure I can do it (I haven't run the shaper ever before!).
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 7 лет назад
Glad it helped you! :) Using a dummy part is always a good thing, I do it on a regular basis, sometimes in a cheap and easy to machine material, just to see if the setup works at all.
@pierresgarage2687
@pierresgarage2687 9 лет назад
Hi, the shaper does an excellent job with keyways and grooves, that made a neat result on the gear... Pierre
@cgis123
@cgis123 9 лет назад
I love using my shapers. I have watched a couple of your videos now, and as a result I have subbed to your channel. Keep up the good work Mate. ATB Matt
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 9 лет назад
Matthew Gischus Thanks for subscribing, I appreciate it very much! I try to keep the videos comming, if anywhere possible one projectvideo every week and my shoptalk videos every month.
@kappullen
@kappullen 8 лет назад
I have an angle plate I use for this work.It has a milled slot in it with precision pin holes going down from the slot like an inverted vee at 45 degrees.I center the slot cutter in the slot, and put appropriate pinsin the holes to centralize parts of various sizes.A couple of c clamps to hold the part and go to town.Thanks for the video.kap
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 8 лет назад
+kappullen Wow, that is a great idea! I like that way better than the Angle plate with the three jaw chuck other people use, thanks for the Comment!
@TheMetalButcher
@TheMetalButcher 8 лет назад
I'd love a picture of that if you have one. I've got a hard time visualizing it.
@fasteddie4107
@fasteddie4107 3 года назад
Good info and nice video. Thank you!
@Muzzy519
@Muzzy519 4 года назад
Very informative. Thank you.
@rasmillion
@rasmillion 9 лет назад
Found your channel yesterday, already watched many vids. I can relate to you and am very glad you are providing these in English Tack!
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 9 лет назад
Ras I am a bit biased with the language, but I think I just reach more people with english. Maybe I should learn esperanto.
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 8 лет назад
every time I try to do a job like this on the shaper I find the tool steel gets dull very quickly and then makes a very rough cut ....the reason being I have put the extra pin in to stop the clapper and tool steel does not like being dragged backwards..........and I mean real quickly like three strokes and it is RS......any suggestions
@johnferguson7235
@johnferguson7235 7 лет назад
Switch to using a piece of carbide steel and use better cutting oil.
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 7 лет назад
Stefan G did it with tool steel and no cutting oil why can't I
@fgleich
@fgleich 8 лет назад
outstanding!
@whyturtleracer
@whyturtleracer 9 лет назад
very nice Stefan
@MaturePatriot
@MaturePatriot 6 лет назад
Where have I seen that type cutting oil can before? Is that a sterno can? Excellent shaper work there. Great job. Keep machining.
@larrypoindexter9351
@larrypoindexter9351 5 лет назад
Stefan: Thanks for posting your video, It's very instructive and detailed. I would like to build something similar. I have one question; When the tool bit holder is installed at 5 degrees into the Z axis block, is the TOOL BIT at 90 degrees to the work or 95 degrees to the work? In other words, at what angle did you drill the hole holding the tool bit. I hope my questions makes some sense. Best Regards: Larry
@nanupin8467
@nanupin8467 4 года назад
Así se hacen los valientes. Porque existe el miedo, antes de que la herramienta toque la pieza, de que se rompa en mil pedazos. Pero con miedo y todo, encendemos la maquina.
@adamnagy7256
@adamnagy7256 10 месяцев назад
Hello Stefan! Are you using square shape HSS insert in a cylindrical bore? Isn't is causing problem? Is that fixed with a bolt or it is soldered in?
@EmmaRitson
@EmmaRitson 8 лет назад
looking though old shaper videos this weekend. for some reason they just got topical around here. looks like i need a tool block next,..
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 8 лет назад
Haha ;) Congrats to the new machine :)
@jimiredhouse2169
@jimiredhouse2169 4 года назад
Hello Stefan I like your OIL pot, did you make it, ?
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 4 года назад
Yep, many people showed on youtube how to make them, look for "spillproof oilcan" or something like that.
@typebin
@typebin 6 лет назад
hi I want to cut internal features like this on a mild steel using shaper. I want to cut internal gear sometimes. I have some HSS bars of probably M2. Will it be hard enough? Will it not need a regrind every tooth of gear? What grade is this high speed steel?(M2, M35, M42, etc.) Thank you.
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 6 лет назад
Any HSS will be fine for shaper-use, the higher cobalt alloys might even be to brittle. I had that problem with some HssCo12 tools (I think thats M42).
@typebin
@typebin 6 лет назад
I see. I never expected the brittleness and you saved me. I'm building feelings and experiences on my HSS bars with a manual milling machine before I start some shaper works. Thank you a lot!
@johngurney1069
@johngurney1069 7 лет назад
hi Stefan in your video you show 2 different cutters for cutting keyways which tool is better enjoy your videos
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 7 лет назад
I actually prefer those that have a small cutting tool held with a setscrew, as they are faster to make/grind.
@johngurney1069
@johngurney1069 7 лет назад
thank you Stefan tried the block and set screw set up on my shaper found it worked very well, and find easier to grind as you say thank you again great videos regards john
@tomie3019
@tomie3019 9 лет назад
This looks like the same shaper that MuellerNick made a video of before he sold it. Same machine?
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 9 лет назад
Tomi Eiren It is! :) Nick asked me three times if I want to buy it - Two times I said no because of space issues in the shop, the third time I still had no space in the shop but i bought it anyway :)
@supermarine4900
@supermarine4900 8 лет назад
+Stefan Gotteswinter hi. whats the name of the shaper :)
@patrickgurdebeke1128
@patrickgurdebeke1128 9 лет назад
Hi Stefan, Nice video. One question: For what raison did you remove the clapper box?
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 9 лет назад
Patrick Gurdebeke When doing keyways the clapper box can ruin your day - When it swings up on the return stroke the tool can hit the backside of the bore - And then it can get messy...also the rigid holder is... more rigid :)
@Dr.Stein99
@Dr.Stein99 6 лет назад
That really is alot of work and effort to put a keyway in. Bolting gear to a vise or table, go in with the vertical mill, dive an end-mill straight center, call it done. Have a radius at the top of it, instead of a square - but it really doesn't matter since the key will stop at the radius bend.
@grizzle245
@grizzle245 5 лет назад
probably not the best way to set the zero... use the tool shank touch one side of the bore zero clock touch otherside and half it....
@nazifarslan7719
@nazifarslan7719 6 лет назад
gute arbeıt freund,ıch gratolıere dıch
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