Mad Max Interceptor Pull - 351 Cleveland on the Dyno! 

351M 😂 Boss 302…etc

I’ve never heard a 351 M that sounded anywhere near as good as a well built Cleveland. Not saying they don’t exist but every 351 M I’ve been around was an absolute dog

@@vadenk4433 Typical for a malaise era engine.

Bad af

Herbert Martin and the clevo still lives up to its status . 2v for the street 4v for race

Yes, one of Fords best race motors. Street n strip

Had a 351 Cleveland in a 73 Torino. Best sound ever. Torque monster!

It was the LS of the 70s.

Small block with the attitude of a big block.

I had a 66 impala 396 4 speed, and I never beat a car like yours on the strip. I could handle most anything else,and always thought this mustang Cleveland setup was almost perfect.

5min of a guy drinking coffee?

There's a reason they used it and the 390 in trucks.

Actually they did not because it came too late, so it never got to see the pinnacle of what it could have been. Ford was planning the 4V version to make 500HP…. But then the gas crisis hit and the production motor ended up being crippled heavily.

Ford never called them "small blocks".

Ever heard of the 318 polyshere? The Ford Cleveland engines borrowed from the 318 polysphere in that it used similar looking valve configuration and combustion chamber as well as the evenly spaced intake and exhaust ports (as opposed to the small block Chevy's siamaesed ports).

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Lol

Ha! Still love them! '71-'73 Cougar fan! 351C is a gem.

That's the only explaining that makes sense yet, especially in regards to two stroke jimmies, thank you

8:48 - Is it never a good idea to include oil dye for definitvely tracking down leaks and faster?

kcotte59, Nick knows how to build them.

Also could buy the engines from factory and mate put in his ski boat 🚤 4v heads

I had one in an Australian 1978 XC FAIRMONT GXL.I wish I still had it.

Its sweating horsepower

It's not a Harley dude! Lol

Good choice as currently available engine oils do not have sufficient zinc to protect flat tappet cams.

Must be used to driving 4 cylinder honda. This made 352hp at 5300rpm and 392hp at 3800rpm

Nice to know you abuse clients cars. Tool.

It wasn't a client, it was a friend and that's what it needed, a good carbon cleaning. It ran great! Tool

@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 The Honda back then had a twin cylinder motorcycle engine....600, I think. They had just started making cars.

Yeah right.

I'm a cleveland fanatic from way back had one in a Pantera!!

Dan from So Cal? If so Im the one that put your cam in

joe Gaskill. Yes indeed. It is nice of course. That is what all American Muscle Engines is about and what I love. Good to see all kinds.

My combo is a zero decked 20 over 2v 351. I did light pocket work behind the valves and port matched the intake. I used an RPM intake and 1 3/4 headers. I also used the Pertronix with a recurve kit to bring timing in a bit earlier. My cam is the 265DEH grind from Comp. It runs like a scalded ape. Sounds great through chambered mufflers. Any more Cleveland content coming?

Paul Moffat: You related to Allan? The racing driver.

THESE GUYS AR CANADIAN LOL they may have never seen a falcon hardtop in real life,sad to say but that coupe is pig ugly and much bigger

Your so delicious!

mad ass you're a bad egg

Never throw it away a special it works perfectly when you take it off the car

I gave up driving a car, because living in Japan One does not need a car. Your rules are totally on top dead center.

Nice to see you Outside of LinkedIn.

Really? can you give me a video of this? [sounds awesome.....] Oval and out...haha.

@@caratcranker5874Just search the Engine Masters competitions on RU-vid. He's built many of the less common Ford engines to win.

Maybe but. You can make SBC horsepower cheaper than any Ford engine

Yeah..... yawn.... you can also dump nitrous on anything. It’s not how fast you go, but how you go fast.

Yea, Bob Glidden had pretty good luck over the years doing the same thing in NHRA ProStock.

Right on, Dog.

C'mon Dog True words of WISDOM :)

It's not work when you enjoy what you do.

I have a 70' and a 71' Torino with the 351 4v and another engine on a stand. They all have the closed chamber heads.

Yea,that 70 and 71 was the best. I had a 73 4v 4 bolt main,spread bore carb,but it was lower compression. I think it was the Cleveland cj.

I had a 70 torino also. Raced it at the strip. With a sig erson Viking cam and double matching valve springs engine would touch 8,100 rpm. The track said if you race the car next time put a roll bar in it.

My Torino had a 351 Windsor, which sang sweetly at 5500 RPM, and a local guy had reworked it with a police pursuit transmission. I never heard it sing until I was cruising 140 taking my mother to the hospital. After that, I knew what I had. I thought about doing a B&B, but I was afraid the added confidence would be dangerous to my health and that of my neighbors, so I didn't do it. I regret selling the car when I was broke, but the guy that got it was a street-rodder and gave me $8k. Not bad for my $3k investment. I miss it, and I still hear it singing in my dreams.

I ordered 1970 Torino 351 Cleveland 4 speed,positraction with the shaker hood scoop. Wimbledon white,black guts. Very fun. I traded in my 1969 Mach 1 with 4 speed 351 wins or gulfstream aqua,gold stripes,white guts. What a blast those cars were.

Too bad they're so damn ugly!

@@joeross6523 There is NOTHING ugly about that engine.

@@lilythomson881 I was talking about '72 mustangs, they're ugly as hell.

@@joeross6523 I disagree there as well. The 71 to 73 Mustang Fastback was a gorgeous car. Now that Mad Max car that this engine is going back into, well, that's another matter.

Had a 72 Mach1,351CJ,C6,& a 3.25 9in...dang near bulletproof, the Cleveland made power up higher in the rpm range than other small blocks.

I used to do that to my poor Monza , my friends thought I was nuts !

I have to do the same thing for my Mazda valve covers. So of course the guy I bought my engine from had the stuff all along the whole gasket path. Leaked something horrible. Everything else, the guy did right.

The 390 is really a better engine in almost every way I can think of - particularly with mains priority oiling. They're also easier to find stuff for - just a bit heavier. But the 351C is a cool machine in its own right.

@@notsure7874 Once you go to an aluminum top end and manifold, lightens them up pretty good.

I had. 390 in my first car. It was s 63 .i had a 71. Fastback it got stolen from me

The 390 was such a great engine. We had one in our ranch truck. It could pull a ton and also haul ass. Best dual purpose engine Ford ever built.

chris lomas. The 351 Cleveland is a great engine for performance.

I learned to drive in a 390 station wagon when I was 12. It got put through hell by my older brothers, my sister liked to jump railroad tracks (all 4 wheels off the ground). One brother raced it at a dirt track on the weekend, got 2nd place, washed it and brought it home. (It's the family car, dad drives to work every day and we take vacations in) We traded it for a 73 Dart, saw it a few weeks later in a driveway almost folded in half with some slotted mags on it.

My boss has a 71 Torino GT with the Original 351 C in it just wasting away in his fathers yard. C6 & 9 inch rear etc. its all there but I would guess rust has claimed the body.

They had said that the boss 351 was faster than the 429scj

@@dalecarter4025 helps being about 400lbs lighter!

Imagine if it had the Cleveland's relative, the 400 with 500+ HP and 500+ Ft lbs torque. It would be hard getting rear tires to last with an engine like that.

TODD BARK. Thank you.

And a stock cast iron low rise intake too!

7s29. I agree with you 100%.

@7s29, AND THE CLEVELAND STILL LIVES. THE 351 CLEVELAND TOTALLY AND SINGLE HANDEDLY CHANGED THE FACE OF PROSTOCK DRAG RACING FOREVER. THE 351 CLEVELAND DOMINATED PROSTOCK TO THE POINT WHERE THEY MADE THE FORD'S CARRY 250LBS MORE WEIGHT AND THEY STILL WON. THE NHRA THEN LET THE CHEVY'S/CHRYSLER/ETC REMOVE MORE WEIGHT AND THE FORD'S ONCE AGAIN STILL WON. THE EMINANT DOOM OF THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY WAS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND THE NIGHTMARE GM FEARED WOULD SOON BECOME A REALITY OF PROSTOCK BEING TOTALLY POWERED BY THE 351 CLEVELAND MOTORS. THEN IN 1983 THE NHRA (ANOTHER DIVISION OF GM) HAD THEIR HENCHMEN IN THE NHRA MANDATED THE 500ci RULE AS A PLOY TO STOP FORD FROM DOMINATING PROSTOCK ANYMORE. SO THE NHRA ALLOWS GM ALONG WITH WARREN JOHNSON TO BUILD A NEW ENGINE CALLED "THE DRCE - DRAG RACE COMPETITION ENGINE". SO GM TAKES THE OLDSMOBILE BLOCK AND STUFFS IT LIKE A THANKSGIVING DAY TURKEY WITH A CAM AND ROTATING ASSEMBLY FROM A BIG BLOCK CHEVY AND THEN WARREN JOHNSON HAS A BIG PAIR OF FORD CLEVELAND HEADS MADE FOR IT. SO SINCE 1983 TO PRESENT WHAT CHEVY HAS BEEN WINNING WITH IS A FORD CLEVELAND ENGINE. THIS IS THE REASON FORD DOESN'T GET INVOLVED IN PROSTOCK RACING. BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY FORD POWERED. AT THIS POINT BOB GLIDDEN GOES OUT AND GETS HIMSELF A BOSS 429 ENGINE AND SLAUGHTERS ALL OF THEM. EVERY YEAR AS GM/CHEVY GOT FASTER WITH THERE GENERIC FORD CLEVELAND ENGINE. BOB GLIDDEN WOULD SLIGHTLY PORT THE BOSS HEADS KEEPING HIMSELF AHEAD OF THE CHEVY'S AND THE REST OF THEM INCLUDING THE HEMI'S. IT REACHED THE POINT WHERE FORD AND BOB GLIDDEN WERE GETTING READY TO CAST A NEW FORD BOSS HEAD AND MOST LIKELY THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN NAMED "THE SUPER BOSS HEADS". AT THIS POINT THE CHEATERS THE NHRA TO PUT CHEVY AND KEEP CHEVY IN THE WINNERS CIRCLE TOLD FORD AND BOB GLIDDEN THAT THEY HAD TO MAKE A 1000 PAIRS OF THESE HEADS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IF THEY WANTED TO RACE. THE NHRA KNEW THE BOSS MOTORS WERE MADE IN LIMITED NUMBERS AND A MARKET FOR THESE HEADS DIDN'T EXIST. OBVIOUSLY THEY KNEW FORD WASN'T GOING TO SPEND COUNTLESS MILLIONS TO PRODUCE HEADS FOR A MOTOR THAT NO LONGER EXISTED. FORD AND BOB GLIDDEN THEN TOLD THE NHRA TO GO "F" THEMSELVES. THIS IS HOW FORD'S DOMINANCE IN PROSTOCK CAME TO AN END. IN 1980 BOB GLIDDEN DID SWITCH OVER TO CHRYSLER AND WON BEATING THE FORD'S ONLY FOR ONE REASON. LIKE THE CHEVY'S THE CHRYSLERS ALSO BENEFITTED FROM THE WEIGHT BREAK OF NOT HAVING TO CARRY 250 MORE POUNDS AND ALSO THE NHRA ALLOWING THEM TO TAKE OFF EVEN MORE WEIGHT ON TOP OF THE WEIGHT FORD WAS CARRING. THE FORD CLEVELAND MOTOR WAS THE ULTIMATE IN POLY ANGLE HEAD DESIGN. IT IS SO STATE OF THE ART THAT DOEN'T GEY ANY BETTER. IT IS HARD TO IMPROVE ON IT INITIAL DESIGN. TODAY YOUR SYMMETRICAL RACE MOTORS LABEDED AS CHEVY ARE ACTUALLY FORD CLEVELAND DESIGNS. YOUR MOUNTAIN MOTORS LABELED AS CHEVY ARE FORD BOSS 429 DESIGNS. THE ADVANTAGE OF THE BOSS HAS OVER THE HEMI LIES IN ITS CRESENT SHAPE COMBUSTION CHAMBER. THE CRESENT SHAPE, ANGLES THE FLOW ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE INTAKE AND EXHAUST OFF SETTING THE VALVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE INTAKE AND EXHAUST SO IT IS NOT STRAIGHT. WHAT THIS DOES IS SLOW DOWN THE FUEL/AIR MIXTURE GIVING IT ENOUGH TIME TO COMPLETELY BURN FOR THE MOST EFFICIENT MAXIMUM BURN FOR MAXIMUM POWER. ON THE OTHER HAND THE HEMI DESIGN BEING STRAIGHT THROUGH ACROSS, DOESN'T ALLOW THE AIR/FUEL MIXTURE ENOUGH TIME TO FULLY BURN CREATING INEFFICIENCIES. THE CLEVELAND IS OF A SIMILAR DESIGN TO THE BOSS AND THE REASON THE CHEVY "DRCE" DOMINATES OVER THE HEMI FOR MANY YEARS IN PROSTOCK.

7s29 ?

6 pack hey 😁🤣🤣

It depends if it's a Windsor or a Cleveland.

You would have been quicker with a 650, vacuum secondary Holley carb, Darrell...and got way better gas mileage!

Who laughed?... Those are great engines..

Yea but put the motor in the car on a dyno jet. You wont get no 400 hp.

The 351C will make alot more Hp with mild work to it easy to get 500+ and still have street manners

@@TeamDrif-Tastik Rubbish. Bill Santochiano, was a Bathurst GTFord mechanic, some factory HO' 3 phase were running close to 500Hp. Call him up, argue with him mate.

@arborcidal maniac It's all about PMEP, which is partially determined by air flow, and flame-front propagation and those 351C heads were amazing for this.

1 hp per cube is a weak knees hot rod. I've built many sbc,s that pit out 2hp per cube and were streetable,not saying stock,but who builds a stock hot rod

kenny baird yep,. Ford went to Le Mans and spanked the Ferraris and Porsches.

@kenny baird, IN 1970 WAYNE GAPP AND JACK ROUSH CAMPAIGNED A 351 POWERED 1970 PINTO IN PROSTOCK RACING. IT DIDN'T BEAT, BUT OBLITERATED THE COMPETITON. CRY BABY GRUMPING JENKINS (THE BIG CHEATER) WHO CHEVY GUYS LOOK UP TO PROTESTED THE CAR AND THE NHRA (ANOTHER DIVISION OF GM) BANNED IT FROM RACING TO KEEP THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY IN THE WINNERS CIRCLE AS THEY HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE THE AMA BAN OF 1957. AS WITH ALL FORD'S THAT DOMINATED RACING THROUGH THE 60'S AND 70'S BOTH IN NHRA AND NASCAR AND LEMANS EITHER BANNED THEM OR USED RULE BOOKS TO GOVERN THEM WHILE THE REST WERE IMMUNE TO THE VERY SAME RULES. IT WAS A COMMON THING TO BAN FORDS IN RACING. THE SMALL BLOCK 289ci WINDSOR WAS HIGHLEY GOVERNED BY RULE BOOKS BY THE NHRA THAT THEY LITERALLY DISAPPEARED FROM DRAG RACING. IN NASCAR THE INLINE SMALLBLOCK FORD WAS DEEMED ILLEGAL FOR USE BACK IN THE 1960'S. THE 289ci HI PO RACE MOTORS IN THE A/FX CLASS RACING IN THE MERCURY COMETS PRODUCED 450HP. ON THE SHORT RACE TRACKS IT WOULD HAVE TOTALLY DOMINATED NASCAR. SO TO LET THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN THEY BANNED THE SMALL BLOCK FORD.

Ford beat Ferrari at LeMans with a 427 Side oiler and a 289. A 351 Cleveland never set foot on that track.

I actually had my friends brother in 1984 mention that same horsepower fact as he transferred a 351 Windsor into his Maverick. Being kind of a Chevy guy I laughed at him. Since then I've come to appreciate Ford cars and engines, and owned a couple.

@@justinl9077 Ford used the 427 in La Mans.

Of all the classic Ford Muscle cars I had during the 70's and 80's the '70 Mach 1 351C was my favorite. And you're right! They have a sound all their own.

@@SuspenseESCAPEremastered I had a '70 notchback with a 302/3 speed while in high school, then bought '73 Mach with it's original engine replaced with a 351C 2 BBL. it turned out a rocker broke, so I found a '73 351C Cobra Jet engine and all was REALLY WELL!

You had me at Pantera sir.

It’s got a stock cam so that’s all it’s got. They really need a Intake cam and headers and it’s not hard making 100-150HP over stock. You can’t say that about most engines, to hit those numbers it required a head swap.

SIR SWERVE. Yes, indeed.