Imagine watching all of Mad Men and actually thinking Roger would have been a reliable, supportive, and strong father figure for the next 18 years had Joan taken the offer. Hah!
Except he wouldn’t have. He was so absent from his first child that she became spoiled and ran off to join a hippy commune, leaving her own child behind.
@@andreacontrerashernandez4210 don't expect an edgelord with Goering as his name to be overly bright... I mean, these guys literally worship people who *lost* their war lol
But I think Wilson ended up getting both of their DNA tested and found out it wasn’t the cool hippie family friend after all…Unfortunately - I really liked that character!
He more so suspected his dad wasn't his biological father. And he confirmed it via DNA testing at his dad's funeral. His dad refused to talk to him for 3 months when he asked about it as a teenager. The Irish guy was thought to be the father because they had a birth mark on their penises that matched, but if I remember correctly the results came back negative. And when Wilson confronts House with the results he says "I guess my mom's not as boring as I thought" much to Wilson's confusion lol.
I think in the series finale most of the main characters are actually setup for a happy life and future if they truly want it. Don, Roger (sort of reunited with his wife, parenting their grandbaby and being there for their son-in-law), Pete Campbell, Joan, Peggy/Stan, and even Red seemed genuinely happy for Don when he watched him leave the meeting.
@@GerryAustin1978 I have in 2010 which was only 10 year, and most seemed still young and vibrant, and my 20 yr one in 2020 was cancelled for COVID. I am hoping to be several states away when my 30 year comes. 😊 I led a wreckless youth from 20 to 30 with drugs and criminal behavior and whatnot.
Being a millionaire isn't as lovely as it seems and we clearly see Roger struggling a few times during the series. Seeing his daughter tell him off and go frolic with her druggie hippy friends after abandoning her baby and husband was the biggest time, but in a weird way it saves him because now he is a father to both Joan's baby as well as his own grandson. Life is a funny thing.
@@alyciagoode4115 I think the problem is with parents coming and going- lack of stability is bad for a kid. she didn't want to accept the money cos then she would "owe" him something
I disagree. I think it alleviated some guilt he had to simply throw money at the "problem". First he offers to casually pay for an abortion (I'm against most abortions) and now he is enlightened for doing acid and wants to be a good man. In the series finale he does actually stand up and insist that their baby will be taken care of and even shares a laugh when they call him "rich little bastard" because he truly is! 😂
Roger and Joan are very much like Jay Gatsby and Daisy Buchanan in the Great Gatsby. They aren't good for each other in the current moment, but their hearts will always be joined in a way that no other relationship could ever touch.
Jay Gatsby was infatuated with Daisy to the point where he became utterly delusional. I would call Roger many things, but delusional is not one of them. And Daisy never really reciprocated, tethered tightly to Tom Buchanan. Joan, however, definitely reciprocated because she despised her infantile, rapey husband so much. In other words, Roger and Joan are nothing like Jay Gatsby and Daisy Buchanan.
I seriously need to read that. Gatsby and Of Human Bondage are 2 of the great American novels I've never read yet. Animal Farm, Catcher In the Rye, and To Kill A Mockingbird were part of my middle school and highschool curriculum. They should never ever be taken off.
nickys34 did you watch this show, asshole? She married her husband even after he raped her because she thought he was going to be the perfect husband for her. She literally did what society expected a woman to do, and she married a bum. She knew what Roger was, loved him but he was never going to be a good man for her. He can’t settle down because he’s always chasing skirts. And she refuses his money because she has her own and she wants to respect herself. She was someone caught in the middle of wanting to be someone’s wife as she was raised to be and wanting a career because she was more capable that almost anyone in that office, but because she was a woman, and a beautiful woman, she was never taken seriously.
It’s sad the way men get to decide whether or not they want to be involved in a child’s life 😞 how some can decide that they are not ready and evaporate out of your life altogether 😞 oh sorry am I projecting a bit too much here 😔
PickUpTheDarnBook I’m not a millennial, but every time I watch this I want to scream “Joan, let him do it!” If she had secured his future she wouldn’t have had to do what she did to become partner.
@@aet5807 that isn’t the point She did it so they could have a free life and her son could be what he wanted without any oppressive people in their lives Including his father
@@XN1K1T4X lol being a respectable woman by sleeping with a married man? She was done with Roger and because of that she deprived him of supporting his own flesh and blood. It was selfish
Between this and "Desperate Housewives," who wouldn't have wanted to be John Slattery for those couple years? Just going back and forth from Christina Hendricks to Eva Longoria. You know. Just a typical week as an actor.
Same…I’m not proud. Thing is, taking the money is a secretive admission that Roger has a specific interest in the child. It might also be a way to keep a question of the baby’s paternity out of the air. Joanie was very smart that way- strategic planner.
That’s a very strange take on Pearl Harbor. A more accurate one would be that they didn’t finish the job. By not doing a third wave, they left intact the vast majority of the oil tanks and planes.
I wonder if there's a strategic vs. tactical split here. Ignoring the whole "USA provoked and knew about the attack"... Come out of nowhere. Reasonably devastating hit and run. Tactical win. "But not as good as it..." YAWN. To what end? Forced the start of the war with an over extension that put the USA on its back foot and... let them sit there and do what they wanted about it, rather than be able to press the advantage. Strategic goof. ?
They never planned for a third wave. Also the Japanese dive bombers were not very accurate, they most likely would have not been able to do much damage to the oil tanks or repair facilities. Also would have faced heavier AA fire and American planes, thereby losing more planes and pilots, and would have had to have landed their planes back in the aircraft carriers in the night.
Could you blame him? Who wouldn't want to make babies with Christina Hendricks? I don't think even condoms could protect from getting her pregnant. Her sex appeal is from another planet. Women don't look like Christina Hendricks on earth. She's unique.
+116458537399508323690 2nd most hottest woman on the planet. Most desirable woman. She's my number 2 choice of women I would hook up with if I met them in person.
@@kdphotos4691 I don’t mean like that, I mean like did Joan tell him? Kevin thought the baby was his, so how come Roger didn’t also assume it was Kevin’s? Is it just assumed that Joan told him? If so why
@@maxeyre2024 kevin IS the baby. roger knew from the beginning and got her set up with an abortion doctor, but she couldn't go through with it, so they decided to pass the baby off as greg's
@@Lucy-uf6oi My bad, I meant Greg’s. Greg always thought it was his but Roger always truly knew it was his I guess. Didn’t remember Roger helped her get set up with the doctor but it makes sense.
This seems like a really good show... But it seems like it might have outran it seasons... I will try to find it on Netflix or wherever it located on the internet
I'm replying to my own comment! The "made/make a baby" phrase was used in the movie "Rosemary's Baby" in 1968: Guy says to Rosemary at one point, "Let's make a baby". Maybe the reason I didn't hear that kind of talk was because I was I was just too young for it. Still I think "make/made a baby" become more common later on.
And a woman thinking she's the only voice that matters. However if Roger really cared he could have pushed the issue. Hopefully in make believe land of Mad Men he did and wasn't a drunken mistake.
Excuse me but Mad Men is not stupid it’s creative in the way of the shows are chose the best actors to play the best parts and is a real picture of what life was like in the 60s and even long after I finish the entire series I still catch myself watching at least one episode a day that’s how good this show is it’s your opinion I understand that but please don’t spit on what other people see it’s a really good show
The only times Mad Men was "stupid": Glenn and Don in the elevator Dons hallucination of Alan in the dentist How long the Sylvia plot went on The rest of Mad Men is extremely consistent
Here we go again the sexism that goes on even till this soft ass generation's day. A Woman thinking her voice is the only one that matters, keeping a boy from his FATHER.
