Pretty much. But EMS Madara doesn't have Wood Clones, so he'll have to use Shadow Clones for that, which are inferior. But anyway, if he takes the fight seriously, he deletes most of the members in less than a minute. Then he deals with Obito, Itachi and Pain.
@@giannixx Yea for sure. I know its Edo. If its EMS he could just whip out the perfect susanoo and pretty much most of them neex to pack up and go home
Let’s do madara v. Akatsuki … but we are also going to give them buffs and plot armor to help. Come onnnnnn. The only member who gives him difficulty is pain, itachi and orochemaru
I think that you forgot that Orochimaru has Edo tensei in his arsenal, so if he were to use the perfected version to summon Hashirama and Tobirama, the fight could turn in his favor. Edit : I just finished the part with Pain / Nagato and it seems to me that you keep forgetting that Nagato can absorb all chakra-based attacks which include the Susa'no. This fact coupled with Nagato's ningendo ability can make Madara think twice before getting too close.
Actually I made sure to restrict Edo Tensei for Oro, you can see I put that over his picture around 7:17 in the video. Unfortunately I forgot to mention it when recording the voiceover, and was too lazy to add it in lol. On the second point, you're actually right I forgot to bring up how would Susano'o interact with Nagato's Preta Path ability. I don't think it changes anything (Madara can still kill him with Susano'o without even getting close through the shockwaves that destroyed mountains which were kilometers away), but I should've mentioned it ngl.
But he couldn't absorb Itachi susanno since Itachi susanoo chakra is mixed with yata mirror energy like a perfect mix. Yata mirror is red and Itachi is yellowish orange. Giving us the reddish orange susanoo
Also yata mirror and the sword only become weapons from armored susanno He can choose to mix the chakra with his susanno and not as a weapon. That's why Blazk zetsu states itachi is invincible
If I gave Orochimaru his Edo Tensei from OG Naruto, it wouldn't change anything. If I gave him Edo Tensei from War Arc, Edo Tensei Hashirama would literally just solo. So it's useless to do that
You’re kinda underestimating Sasori. Now I know Sasori would lose but if he has prior knowledge he’s losing but taking Madara with him. Sasori’s poison is incurable and during Madara’s time Sasori wasn’t around so he wouldn’t know how to deal with it. Plus you’re talking about prime alive Madara and there’s no statements of Madara being immune to poison. Also, Hiruko puppet isnt useless it’s also used similar to Deidara’s goggle but more advanced making him immune to genjutsu. Take into account too some of Sasori’s puppets have Sharingans in them and all of them are 3 Tomoe and Iron Sand is a direct counter to fire as well along with Sasori being able to use both Fire and Water style.
ik is strange i don't belive to even i like itachi .... but this statement are Kishi mistake .... don't get me wrong but .... Orochimaru leave akatsuki beacose " ITACHI WAS WAY MORE POWERFULL THAN HIM " literally orochimaru told that word's exaclty like that to kabuto ..... ALL OF THIS WHILE HE WAS ALREADY IN AKATSUKI WITH PAIN !!!! .... " NOT GOING TO BELIVE THAT BEACOSE CHARACTER STATEMENT CUZ THESE STATEMENT ARE SHIT , NOBODY IN THAT SERIES ARE OMNISCIENT SO THEY WILL NOT BE EVEN CLOSE WITH THEIR STATEMENT SO I CHOOSE TO BELIVE ONLY THE PROOVED ONE " Example of bad statement : (well this was over interpretated by ppl but) The Original statement was : THERE ARE OTSUTSUKI STRONGER THAN KAGUYA ( AGREE BUT MOMOSHIKI EVEN FUSED ISN'T ONE OF THEM ) so Sasuke Claim if there will be other threat like Kaguya he will deal with that on his own , not he will beat kaguya if is needed but let's finish that ... If they belive Sasuke SOLO Kaguya , that should mean He is Stronger than Her .... FAKE TO SAY SASUKE SOLO KAGUYA IS LIKE YOU GOING TO SAY " SASUKE SOLO HAGOROMO&HAMURA AT THE SAME TIME " CUZ THEY FOUGHT 100% OF KAGUYA 3 MONTH , EVEN IF WE TALK ABOUTH THAT 50% OF KAGUYA .... THINKING 100% KAGUYA FOUGHT 3 MONTH HAGOROMO&HAMURA ..... 50% KAGUYA WIN AGAIST HAGOROMO OR HAMURA CUZ NO 6TH PATH CHIBAKU TENSEI ... WITH MAKE US TO CONCLUDE IS SASUKE SOLO HAGOROMO ??? That's the most ILOGICAL QUESTION EVER DONE .... REMEMBER HAGOROMO IN NARUTO SHIPPUDEN IS DEATH THAT MEAN HE IS NO LONGER 10 TAILS JKRK BUT HE STILL HAS THE STAFF MADE FROM TRUTH SEEKING ORB RINNE-SHARINGAN AND STUFF.... REMEMBER AGAIN DEATH HAGOROMO HAS ENOUGHT CHACKRA TO TRANSPORT ALL TAIL BEAST + NARUTO + SASUKE + SAKURA + DMS KAKASHI BACK TO THEIR DIMENSION ... WITCH IS WAY WAY MORE THAN 6 PORTAL OPEN FOR HIMSELF SASUKE DO TILL HE GET OUT OF CHACKRA
Ngl the amount of downplay here is wild. Madara’s more than capable of outputting more power than 4 tails naruto. He is definitely fast enough to catch deidara too.. if fking baby sasuke can blitz deidara there is no eay madara doesn't jist do the same.. Its almost as of you are doing this under equal stats or something because madara is capable of just running through everyone with mostly taijutsu. And frankly he has durability feats that pretty much mean short of kamui. Totsuka, and poison he csnt even be damaged by these characters.
What attack of 3T Madara has higher output than 4-tailed Naruto's TBB? Also Deidara is starting the fight in the air, on a bird, as otherwise he would get blitzed like you're saying. I explained that. I only have Itachi & Pain/Nagato & Obito not getting blitzed in neutral circumstances
@@t0xeus_ madara scales above the full 9 tails. So long story short if madara just decided to imbue enough chakra in any singular jutsu he can achieve similar results. We clearly see he is beyond the bijuu and more so rivals the 10 tails instead. Literally anything he throws works once the power gap gets that large. Deidara starting in the air doesn't matter either. Once again sasuke was able to blitz him in the air.. twice if I recall correctly. And to put it very simply if sasuke can do that then madara could replicate that feat 50x faster. Also madara still is fast enough to blitz itachi, orange mask obito, and pain. You literally aren't grasping the difference between these characters and their stats. Itachi and obito are baseline light speed based off of feats. Madara as a weakened edo that just definitively scales below ems madara was capable of reacting to speeds calculated at 50-70x light speed. So if the two fastest akatsuki members stop at light speed and madara starts at 50x that speed you have to be able to see the issue here Even ignoring speed he just outright has the strength to one shot everyone here when ever an attack lands. The difference is like day and night
Let's keep it 100. He pulls his 🥒 out and he flats out Grapes them rather it's a 2 on one or the whole entire group in general & there's not a dam thing they can do about! Simple & Plain !
i geniuanly think nagato can beaat ems madara, you forgot about the soul rip dragon and his absorbtion and u can make a argument that madara can be pushed out the susanoo or pulled out since it doesnt really have mass, we see that when sihiki kicks him out or gara just pulls him out, only win con i can see from madara is the susanoo clones
I’ve never seen an Akatsuki video that accurately describes Kakuzu. Homie is strong as balls. His fight against Team 10 and Kakashi was after he sealed not one, but TWO tailed beasts at the same time. He hadn’t eaten or drank anything in days, was very low on chakra, sleep deprived, AND had to fight not one, not two, but 3 ninjas at the same time AND STILL WON WILL FEW ISSUES (he only lost one heart to a surprise lightning attack from Kakashi). After all of the above, 2 more ninja show up, one a wood style user and the other the main character lol. THEY STILL LOST (Naruto failed and Yamato had to save him). Finally it took one direct impact from an S rank Jutsu that a Kage would later forbid him from usage due the destruction. AND HE WAS STILL ALIVE. The only reason he couldn’t keep fighting is because Rasenshuriken attacks cells. But Kakashi had to deal a final blow to ensure he died. JESUS CHRAIST. He’s also the ONLY known ninja to survive the first 3 great shinobi wars, a feat neither Madara nor Hashirama has. He also survived a fight against Hashirama himself (YES, I understand we don’t know the degree. But the whole point of this reference was that he survived because he was strong enough to, which again is a Madara level feat). I’d like to believe Kakuzu was second to Pain, MAYBE third to Pain and Itachi. But thinking not even Itachi could do much unless using Totsuka blade or a lucky Amaterasu shot. Don’t forget Kakuzu’s hands can travel through the ground, the one weak spot of Susano’o. I believe Kakuzu pushes Madara to perfect Susano’o. Madara doesn’t posses any strong Lightning style skills, which is the only Jutsu we saw defeat Kakuzu’s earth heart. Kakuzu has both insane stamina, speed, and chakra levels (he was spamming A-S rank ninjutsu from 4 different hearts at the same time after dealing two tailed beasts…). Regular Susano’o can be countered with his separating hands. Idk how genjutsu would go considering Kakuzu’s hearts are somewhat sentient. Perfect Susano’o is Madara’s best shot.
There's a serious problem here. Against Pain or White Mask Obito, Madara will try to grab his Rinnegan and implant it on himself. All he has to do is to touch Obito while he is tangible, and against Pain he just needs to track down Nagato. Then alive Madara gets 1 to 2 Rinnegan 💀
