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Madness Sorcerer Quick PVP Guide - STILL WORKS FOR PATCH 7.5 

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A quick PVP Guide to the Madness Sorcerer, Plaguemaster build, originally released for patch 7.3.1, but still up to date for patch 7.5
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@ivano1337
@ivano1337 6 месяцев назад
I still use this build in patch 7.4. No changes, just higher item level gear so you can get a bit more crit.
@Modos7
@Modos7 3 месяца назад
Hey Ivano, your videos are great man, really informative. A question - at the moment I’m rolling with 5.3k Crit, 2.3k Alac and 16.7k Mastery. Fully augmented for crit atm, just wondering what your take is on diminishing returns re crit? Would it be worth swapping out 1 or 2 crit augments for mastery or just keeping as is?
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 3 месяца назад
@@Modos7 thanks man! Appreciate the kind words. Regarding augments you will not feel the difference but above 4,6k crit mastery will give you a bit more dps. So if you want to min-max and have the augments, go for it
@Modos7
@Modos7 3 месяца назад
Sweet, thanks for the response Ivano! Also, I asked specifically about my Sorc, but would your 4.6k threshold advice work generally or is it more class specific?
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 3 месяца назад
@@Modos7 yes, my answer was specifically for Madness
@Modos7
@Modos7 3 месяца назад
Great, thanks @ivano1337!
@UcantCme972
@UcantCme972 11 месяцев назад
Big ty , for the arena build too !!!
@katzhas
@katzhas 11 месяцев назад
really like the new template design
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, made it myself hehe 🤓
@namelesslight3303
@namelesslight3303 7 месяцев назад
The high alacrity build using Mystic's Ruthless Blade tactical seems to work well for me. You forgot to mention the timely use of force speed to get the 20% bonus from the Gathering Storm implant. Also, I think it would be better to use Recklessness before Demolish, as then it would affect Demolish and Force Leach (2 charges). You'd get more bang for you buck with that than using it with FL and Shock. The stunning bubble is a must in arenas. I've had 3 players all jump me at the same time and they get stunned and then my team gets more time to focus on our target, which can lead to a win. Overall it seems Madness got nerfed a bit in that it feels heavy and slower, which is one of the reasons why I prefer higher alacrity. I have also seen some Madness players use 1200 - 1400 or so accuracy and it seems to make a difference, as your targets are less likely to resist your periodic effects. I am experimenting a bit with this and its too early to come to any formal conclusions. I just notice that when I have a random teammate that performs well and I inspect them, they often have at least 1000 accuracy. Thanks for the vid, I appreciate your efforts!
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 7 месяцев назад
I haven't tried that tactical and haven't seen anyone using it in PVP either. But if it works for you - good! I tested using Recklessness on Demolish and because it only affects the initial hit, I found that using it on shock gives you slightly higher damage. But if you're using that tactical of course that might be different. I would definitely not recommend using accuracy on Madness. You cannot defend against yellow damage in pvp, and madness only has yellow damage. So really not worth it.
@namelesslight3303
@namelesslight3303 7 месяцев назад
@@ivano1337 Hey Ivano, thanks for the reply! Do you have any idea why sometimes players can "Resist" force attacks? I was thinking that perhaps accuracy can prevent that from happening but I'm honestly not sure and haven't found anything about it yet. Another good tactical for PvP is Biorhythm, as it can about double the amount of self healing you do. Its a royal pain to get it (requires Legend standing with Onderon guard) and I've been experimenting with that a bit.
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 7 месяцев назад
Few classes can resist force attacks when using defensive cooldowns. E.g. Assassins Force Shroud, PowerTech's Sonic missile, some tanks. But other than those rare case, you should never miss in PVP. Accuracy will not really help against those either, so that's why I recommend not to run it for PVP. I have never tried Biorhythm. Might test that out. Thanks for sharing!@@namelesslight3303
@XerranasVT
@XerranasVT 11 месяцев назад
Just played an arena match as madness, and kited this jug so hard he said in chat "Stop running you f*cking jew" after I 1v2'd him and his premade in greens. Great times.
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 11 месяцев назад
First they laugh at your gear. Then you kite them. Then they flame you. Then you win🏆GG!
@w.u5829
@w.u5829 Месяц назад
I have 3 gear pieces of accuracy in my madness build, should i remove them and replace with crit/alacrity? Some people say that I need a little accuracy and some say that I don't need it at all and I don't quite understand why I don't need it. great video by the way 😃
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 Месяц назад
If you play PVE you need 2700 accuracy because bosses can resist your attack causing them to do no damage at all. Players cant do that, so in PVP you don't use accuracy at all
@Sky14714
@Sky14714 Месяц назад
I just got told I suck so bad at playing this class that I should never que again in pvp. Ouch...
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 29 дней назад
Haters gonna hate. Who cares? That's a nice rat in your profile pic btw. Used to have 4 of those!
@Sky14714
@Sky14714 29 дней назад
@@ivano1337 Thanks! :)
@debadrichowdhury9936
@debadrichowdhury9936 7 месяцев назад
The moment a juggernaut or a mara jumps at me. It's kinda game over. If I have phase walk I survive. Or else respawn. Can you please make a video of your sorc vs kaythic's rage jugg? :)
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 7 месяцев назад
If that's the case, it's probably a positioning issue. Just stay in the back with your team. You dont need to 1v1 the jugg, just stay with your team and kite around. But even in a pure 1v1 Jugg can't win unless you fuck up, have less cooldowns. I want to make a few "how to fight A class as B" videos, yeah.
@KaratePath
@KaratePath 5 месяцев назад
Man it really does hate putting the mirror for the mirror classes like on your other videos ... :( ..... Broadsword should at least put the skills on the same spot ....... Need to log on my Inquisitor, spec, read all, then do so on my Sage.. LOL .... Thanks god i have all 16 ACs. But i used to play imp in the past, from about 2-3 years on, im mostly just pub
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 5 месяцев назад
I also have a balance guide 😄
@Winirar
@Winirar 10 месяцев назад
Hi Ivano really cool guide, i have a question. What augments/enhancements and how many do i need in my equipment to get the stats you have?
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 10 месяцев назад
Thanks! You need 3 alacrity enhancements, 4 critical enhancements. 14 critical augments. Earpiece crit as well.
@Winirar
@Winirar 10 месяцев назад
Thank you so much 😄
@billyg3230
@billyg3230 11 месяцев назад
Now all that's left is to solve why my character all of a sudden runs slow
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 11 месяцев назад
Toggle sprint ability maybe?
@billyg3230
@billyg3230 11 месяцев назад
@@ivano1337 im talking about just the normal run its like my sorc is jogging or speed walking
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 11 месяцев назад
It's either you accidentally hit the walk/run keybind or you toggled off the sprint ability. (Not force speed, it's an ability that all characters have, makes you run some percent faster)
@Raansu
@Raansu 3 месяца назад
Is mystics ruthless blade tactical worth using at all over tempest of rho? Seems like it would create better burst windows.
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 3 месяца назад
Don't think so. You lose around 8% dps for a little bit more demolish damage. Also your burst with plaguemaster is already good enough
@ILUS12345
@ILUS12345 2 месяца назад
mmm could you include for a noob like me the mirror class names? im trying to guess it but it would be best to have the combos and names of the skills for it. and also is this still valid for 7.5?
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 2 месяца назад
Would take too much time if I included that in every video. But I did a video on mirror classes and how you can do it yourself here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pYuhD7kI5pU.html
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 2 месяца назад
also: Yes, still valid in 7.5. Nothing changed
@MrNopperz
@MrNopperz 11 месяцев назад
Why leech before shock? Also, for max dps, you want to use demolish after shock now with the recent change of shock
@D1LLERH
@D1LLERH 11 месяцев назад
Because leech hits harder with affliction
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 11 месяцев назад
Leech before shock because it's more burst. You lose some damage on the dot finisher, but gain more with the 70k Leech autocrit. Demolish before shock for the same reason. I prefer to maximize burst, not theoretical dps
@Eno-master
@Eno-master 11 месяцев назад
@@ivano1337thank you i do demolish before shock too. i mean... in THEORY more damage if shock before but in actual pvp shock after demolish is still more effective. 100% keep up the great content.
@MrNopperz
@MrNopperz 11 месяцев назад
Yes, so u can do it after afflication at Position 9. I think that is Overall more dmg, maybe not as bursty
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 11 месяцев назад
If you want to play for max dps, go: Death brand -> creeping terror -> force lightning (tick tempest of rho) -> affliction -> polarity + shock -> creeping terror -> affliction -> demolish -> force lightning x2 -> speed + leech -> death brand -> force lightning -> creeping terror -> affliction -> shock (still under polarity) etc. The PVEers also open with hard cast Force Leech but in PVP, dps starts counting when the round starts, so I would leave out that first Leech.
@l2ekalif
@l2ekalif 7 месяцев назад
Do you got a 7.4 build and can you tell me how to track my dot on the target effectively ?
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 7 месяцев назад
This build works for 7.4! To track your dot, check my interface video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-djZJy4zlhX0.htmlsi=fDgRAxPQqux2LKM0&t=574
@crimansizers5840
@crimansizers5840 8 месяцев назад
Any thoughts in why we don't take critical movement to synergize with our relics? More force speed = more CDR = more polarity shift?
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 8 месяцев назад
You can take it if you don't care about plaguemaster burst. Both are good options
@crimansizers5840
@crimansizers5840 8 месяцев назад
@@ivano1337 You know, I played around with both and I felt the burst from PM fit so well into my rotation, whereas without I feel I have to use more filler abilities. I think the lost time on the polarity shift is worth it.
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 8 месяцев назад
@@crimansizers5840 yeah I also run plaguemaster mostly. Fun to kill ppl from 50% hp on a dot class 😅
@TheAsmodianleader
@TheAsmodianleader 11 месяцев назад
love u
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 11 месяцев назад
😍
@CptDucky
@CptDucky 7 месяцев назад
is 2200 mandatory or is like 2120ish good enough? are we just trying to get to 7.15%?
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 7 месяцев назад
It's good enough if you have decent ping
@croma81
@croma81 Месяц назад
Which one is the king? Madness or Lightning in 7.5?
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 Месяц назад
Madness
@croma81
@croma81 Месяц назад
@@ivano1337 Madness? THIS IS SPARTA! (Sorry I couldn't control myself 😆 Thx for the answer. Keep it uP the guides comin!)
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 Месяц назад
@@croma81 🤣 I know the feeling. Will do, thanks
@Eno-master
@Eno-master 11 месяцев назад
Deception is a like clay in my hands Muahahaha. thanks boss. My build is very close to this. I have a hard time with Plasmatech / Pyrotech and Tactics / Advanced Prototype that stinking grapple! Assault Specialist / Innovative Ordnance paired with a Plasmatech / Pyrotech = Net then burn and I am dead. I have not been able to successfully 1 v 1 good snipers. Roots, interrupts and stuns don't work and kiting is all but useless.
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 11 месяцев назад
Snipers are hard now with the passive heal in cover. But you can still beat them. Just dot them and run behind a pillar. Force them to chase you and move to a bad position. Your passive heal should outsustain them
@Eno-master
@Eno-master 11 месяцев назад
@@ivano1337thanks ill try that! i have 7 heals after all and they only have 1 so we should be able to beat them. i just have to be on point with my kiting.
@Wewec7
@Wewec7 6 месяцев назад
Doesn't the Plague Master ability heavily clash with the Tempest of Rho tactical? If I always try to finish my DoT rotation with Shock, Creeping Terror will seldomly end up being followed by Lightning Strike or by Force Lightning.
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 6 месяцев назад
Why would it clash? After you shock, you reapply the dots and spam force lightning to finish them off. Rho buffs that.
@Thornstar2
@Thornstar2 10 месяцев назад
How should my accuracy be in PVE? I can't find any guides for it and I would highly appreciate the help. Thanks!
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 10 месяцев назад
For Hard Mode and Master Mode, you need 10% accuracy to not miss any attacks. So if you have the companion bonus (+1%), you still need 9% from gear. To get that you need exactly 2694 accuracy rating from gear. Hope that helps!
@Thornstar2
@Thornstar2 10 месяцев назад
@@ivano1337 Thank you so much, that helps! What about alac. or crit?
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 10 месяцев назад
2200 alacrity, rest into crit
@MrNopperz
@MrNopperz 10 месяцев назад
I still dont get why deathbrand should be better than deathfield. Deathfield just does more dmg even without the dotspread! :D
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 10 месяцев назад
Death Brand has a bigger heal, a 50% slow that can re-proc and a 7% extra internal damage debuff. Damage is not everything!
@bdiary7678
@bdiary7678 10 месяцев назад
can u guide me augment for madness ? thank so much
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 10 месяцев назад
Critical augments all the way!
@bdiary7678
@bdiary7678 10 месяцев назад
@@ivano1337 Thank you so much :D
@Ignatuz
@Ignatuz 11 месяцев назад
What relics do I use?
@ivano1337
@ivano1337 11 месяцев назад
ilvl 332 PVP Relics (Thyrsian Relics of Serendipitous Assault and Thyrsian Relics of Focused Retribution)
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