Mafia Definitive Edition: Every Console Tested - Impressive Tech That Sets The Stage For Next-Gen 

Kinda bizarre that this game was hailed as a set-up for next-gen, but Hangar 13/THQ utterly ignored the next-gen consoles that released literally 2 months afterwards.

​@@OneLastScholarit'd be amazing to see 4k uprezzing with 60fps. As is, it's not bad but it's hindered with the 30fps

​@@OneLastScholar It is weird , i would imagine they could do 4k@60. Or at the very least 1440p@60. Mafia 2 remaster could defo do it seeing as it isnt a full remake like mafia 1.

it doesn'y look truly amazing on a ps4, really doesn't

Hammad Khan on pro it does

@@hammadkhan450 Bruh... :/

Same :p

Who needs hw ray tracing when games can look this good without it

it did ray tracing, as explained (and praised) on the video.

@@moreuse nope it is not ray tracing ..its a Ray trace screen space reflection mixed with cupemaps.. the alignment of reflection is accurate but with limitations not all scenery can be reflected on car some of tge details is missing.. This method is very time consuming to implement in a real big open world game.. Mafia one remake is a big upgrade interms of visual graphics over mafia 3 by a far.. The engine graphics is the same between mafia 1 and 3 but the outcome is very different.. I think the enhance engine from mafia 1 is the true next gen ps4/xbox one was supposed to be,.. Mafia 3 graphics looks very outdated looks like a ps3 graphics at its best..

1940s las vegas.. The next mafia 4...

please no, i want 1950s

Here we go, Mafia 4 in Sicily in the 90'

I have to agree, this isn't a remaster as such, it's more of a remake of the game from the ground up using modern game engines and hardware and it really shows. I wish more remaster would get this level of treatment.

I think they went with Definitive to stay in line with 2, 3, and the whole "Definitive Collection" moniker. As far as 2K doing the game a disservice... While I don't think 2K redefined what a Definitive Edition is I do think they raised the bar considerably. People should expect more than just a fancy new coat of paint. Hopefully 2K continues with this mindset.

they even kept the branching mission! but it seems all reviews did not notice all of these branches at all :(

@@paul1979uk2000 And there is a reason why people use different classifications for these types of games like remaster and remake just to try to stop confusing people. Sadly not every devs gets the memo for consistently, not like they do in their own games anyway.

@@Deliveredmean42 True, a remaster seems like a touch up on the existing games with a few extra bells and whistles and in many cases, it's just the PC port on the consoles, a remakes is more or less the same game but remade from the ground up in a new engine, that takes a lot more effort but the results looks good where a game from a decade or so ago can look really good today which is rarely the case with a remaster, the problem is with remakes is that it cost money and time to do because they are more or less reinventing that game so I can understand why they would want to charge full price for it compared to a remaster.

With a pc bought with the money of a ps2. Otherwise, there's no point.

they don't make those kinds of videos anymore

The original game on pc is still amazing today The details alone

I still think the obsession with the resolution is absurd. 30 fps should be the bare minimum, being the fluidity the goal. All the artefacts, screen tearing and all make the games way uglier than a relatively low resolution, IMHO

@@ermiker7336 agreed but I think the issue is that a lot of people think a game has to be in 4k to look nice or be good it's crazy.

Does screen tear happen on lower framerate like 30fps? Unless your TV/Monitor is has less than 30Hz, then there should be no tearing.

@@brenlouissurio2404 whenever FPS drops lower than 30 on consoles tearing comes in

No way I'm playin in 30fps. Glad I got this on pc

I think the real deal here is the software Ray tracing.. Hardware ray tracing is still overrated and power consuming.. I hope next gen titles push framerates and resolution by implementing this rather relying on hardware power..Playstation first party studios can do it better I guess

@@balajignanasehar6417 yep you're right look at unreal engine 5 tech demo.. They didn't use hardware ray tracing but it was stunning.. Hardware ray tracing is overrated.. They are still corporate strategy to sell hardware

@@balajignanasehar6417 sure it's really impressive. I think a mix between hardware and software would be great to.

@@smartknight7476 Dont bother with xbots man they think xbox one games are next gen without any ray tracing on them. They still have not seen any 4k 30/50 or 120 fps games with there own eyes on series x. And we saw how series x struggling to keep stable 60 fps on current gen xbox one games on digital foundry video There is no hope for next gen games or ray tracing for series x. they will get heart attack when in real life series x doing 1080 p 30 fps with ray tracing or 1440p at best

@@rinkumultani6515 come back when Paystation gets a teardown. You will probably have to wait till after the launch of Ps5 lol.

mafiAAA's Don is proud when publishers can get away with tax evasion and exploiting vulnerable people Game that is made for auto-aimers with 30 PREMIUM FPS doing macro-transactions for cut content giving out their personal data and that data is being exploited by publishers to inflate this kind of loop. Welcome to the brave naive world. Developers of said naive world can't face the facts so they suppress, censor people. and get outsource dirty work to influencers which get high when they receive free merch. Free merch > free speech. Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation. Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent.

Don Mattrick?😂

@@brokengames9020 Huh?

@@lettomtalk Don't do drugs lol

Damn it feels good to be a gangster.

The xbox one

If you own a One X, you left that behind 3 years ago.

@@patrickoakley7890 alot of people I know didn't upgrade to the X

Only when they add in Ray tracing lol

@@patrickoakley7890 what like 7% of the xbox one population 🤔 lol

Probably will also still be locked at 30 too.

It most likely will on Xbox series X 🤷🏾‍♂️

@@JacobakaJb Doesn't make it any more likely; look at Control. The current best practice is to not buy any game that you aren't prepared to buy again, unless the publisher has explicitly confirmed a free upgrade.

@@JacobakaJb 60fps on series x

aroo it will get a free upgrade on Xbox all games are getting them lol

Top tier comment

It'll be interesting to see how people react when hardware raytraced GI finally kicks in and people complain about it not looking better. We have gotten so good at "faking "GI that the most positive effect will be less development time as a lesser amount of things have to be placed by hand. Sorry for hijacking your comment. I do feel the same as you though.

Yeah. Some games have excellent lighting that genuinely awes me and these are without ray tracing. If ray tracing is significantly taxing on the resources of the next gen machines, I rather they leave out ray tracing because the lighting can look amazing without. Im all for 60fps first.

They did highlight it in game. They talked about it and if you couldn't see what they was talking about in the game then you should have played more attention to the video!

@@xBITTYBOOx They did show it, but that's not enough like only few parts of the video gives you a glimpse of thaf and if you have played the game you know it's more than what they're showing here! Also my gripe is when he talked about it the footage didn't particularly highlight the features in gameplay like they did with the ray traced SSR.

You gotta wait for Alex on that tech breakdown video. We all know it’s coming.

Same for me. Its the reason I refunded even though I was looking forward to it.

@@Games-tt9hu does the game has Hdr on pc?

@@Games-tt9hu this is just insane to me... Refund a game because there's no HDR? Like, is good gameplay and story and great graphics no enough that lack of HDR makes it a bad enough game? I guess I'll just never understand graphic chasers lol.

I wonder wil the xsx auto hdr this game

At first was disappointed as well. But after testing it on my OneX (borrowed Disk from a friend), I wasn't impressed by the HDR at all, in contrary to many other games. Went back to PC without FOMO. Looks better overall with max settings at least on my Sony TV, rock solid 60 fps, and cleaner picture even at the same 1440p. And impressive Headphone Surround for free with HeSuVi (as a bonus - not essential of course). I really think you can enjoy your PC Version.

Lets hope they are making a next gen mafia 4 , ( vegas in the 70s/80s ) with a open world with things to do. And encountering side missions organicly. And for example that pooltable. That would be awsome to play it ( against somebody online ) .

You're not playing "game of your childhood". You either don't remember anything about it or you lying that you've played it at all. Enjoy this game all you want, just don't pretend it's the same game as original. It really isn't. The right thing to do would've been to call this "Mafia Reimagined". Calling it "Definitive Edition" was a complete douchebag move.

@@Broformist LOL 😂

I hope not. Mafia 3 sucked. Let's not keep dragging the franchise through the mud.

At 30

@@OrphansCorpse stfu

What is popin?

@@kevinhard2473 Mary 😎

There's also popin on PC with max settings, sadly

@@stateofmind578 😅

@@NeThZOR Wich drive unit are you using?

@Ash Bajaj series S is still more powerful than one X, did you know?

Tuncay D Considering these games are locked in resolution and at 30Fps it'll play at the same maximum resolution from the respective platforms they replace. 900p on Series S and no fps drops due to much better CPU and still 1440p on Series X and 30fps. There is no option to unlock or such to 60fps or higher resolution so unless the developers update the game themselves or allows Microsoft to do so then as a pure backwards compatible stand point you'll have no frame rate drops and same exact resolution.

MoonNight Yes it is however this game has locked resolutions and locked frame rate so it will just play more stable on the Series S it won't have any visual upgrades or enhancements or increase in frame rate unless the developers do so themselves or allows MS.

@@ZeitGeist_TV maybe they will update this game as Microsoft said

1440p 30fps on the S & 4K on the X with a update.

Mate, they look so different

?

Is it the same resolution for both current gen consoles?

yep! the trailing blur ghosting thingy is really distracting for the first 2-4 hours. After that, im really glad my brain finally ignores it.

They explain the reflections in the video,did you not watch it?

There are other techniques than screen space reflections. Using informations other than what's on the screen, as "screen space" clearly states

did it and absolutely not disappointed :)

@@huawafabe Enjoy :D

Ok

Thanks for the summary!

Props I hope it gets the treatment on Series X

Been playing on one X and I’m honestly surprised it’s 1440p and not native 4k. If that’s what 1440p looks like, then I’d much prefer that with higher ratings and frame rate than 4K

Mohammed definitely like 4k but if I had to choose between ray traced 4K 30fps, and ray traced 1440p 60fps, I’m choosing the latter. Resolution higher than 1440p is very expensive and not very noticeable

Its suppose to do that instead of following a line on the ground

@@bigbootyanime3630 oooh didn know that. Never played mafia. I will buy it when it is in sales

@@chieff666 yeah first game i think that does this

lol, mafia 3 is crap compared to the original and this remake

When they make a new Switch that has considerably more power than the current one.

Yeah their SSR implementation is crazy good.

Not announced yet but most probably would be given how close to next gen it released

hope so this looks beautiful on pc with max settings 60fps

I assume so considering they want to add ray-tracing to this and they can't do that without next-gen hardware.

@@sadstormtrooper I'm on og xbox one and with the resolution being 900 p I ll rather wait for series x

Wait and see.

Don't hold your breath

RIP

Fix it for us Tim

@@im415again XD lol

I hope so as well, that is when I will pick it up for PC.

Just because there's no next-gen upgrade, doesn't mean that Hangar 13 is lazy.

@@paulbell3682 no patch and no fps boost....

@@revelator3665 They would if enough people bought it and wanted it. They said that, and that is generally how it works regardless. Keep fans happy and they'll come back for more, but it has to be enough people.

They’re working on a new mafia game. They’re busy rn

This game shows the devs are anything but lazy. It looks better than many current gen games.

40fps isn't great

@@NexGenTek it's better than 30!

1080 ti? Try dropping the resolution a bit (create a custom one in Nvidia control panel if you haven’t already. Say, 3072x1728. Will run much better and looks close to 4K. Can add nvidia sharpening filter to make it look even better

@@NexGenTek At 4k it is.

@Kylo Dog At least i can play 4K/high on my current PC. That’s more than can be said for the X and Pro. I need to build a new PC this year. Waiting to see what AMD Zen 3 brings next Thursday.

What doesn't

Halo Infinite is openworld 4K60 with dynamic lighting. Mafia doesn't even come close

@@vandammage1747 4k 60 doesn't mean it is a good looking game nor does it make a game good lmao

@@The_Sloth_Man 4K60 does make the image fidelity look much better and smoothnes also MUCH better than 1440p30. If you didn't see the checkerboard artifacts, sub 4K image and yanky 30fps in this video maybe you shouldn't talk about how games look in general.

@@vandammage1747 what are you talking about? You clearly have no clue of anything about tech or game development and reading comprehension. I said 4k 60 doesn't make a game good looking nor does it make it a good game. That is fact. I never said anything about 1440p 30 fps. Anyone knows the same game that is at 4k 60 fpa, will offer a better experience than one at 1440p 30 fps. Your argument was just because Mafia is 1440p 30 fps, that is is nowhere near the graphical power or looks of Halo infinite, and that is simply not true at all. Craig over there looking like the original Mafia graphics. But my point is, graphics is not the same as resolution and framerate.

they didn't stick to the original mission design at all. The original had open ended missions, unlike DE which is linear with instant fail scenarios (like you said). As far as the open world, Mafia is narrative/mission based series, not an open world.

Actually they significantly downgraded the gameplay and mission design from the original. It wasn't nearly as scripted and "cinematic" as it is in the remake and allowed lot more space for experimentation. Story is hit and miss too, some things are improved, some worsened.

Nothing wrong with being faithful to its identity. It just means they didn't sell out for pleasing casual plebs

Jason117 - haha, oh my days ‘casual plebs’ 🤣

8Paul7 - Oh really? Christ, that’s even worse than I thought.

There doesn't need to be a "stage set." It's a game. Let the developers create what they want the game to look like. They don't have to challenge anyone.

@Cinematic Passages I agree, Tom and Alex have had some questionable thoughts with recent games like Crysis, Mafia and especially halo infinite

@Jordan Ghill You're literally on a youtube channel of which half their content is based on how good games look graphically, expect discussion and thoughts in the comments. I'm currently playing through this game now and am thoroughly enjoying it, the comment section exists for a reason...

@@pengu6335 Not sure if this was meant to be a response to me or the video in general. But having your highest LoD option still having noticable pop-ins is a graphical issue they should address.

There’s a difference in how HDR is handled? Could you link me to more information?

@@MarioManTV Having both consoles, I have experienced different results in terms of hdr on both consoles. I think the built in console hdr calibration tools may have something to do with it. In any event hdr seems to look better on my pro than it does on my one x. It is well documented that the one x has had issues with crush no matter what settings you use. The pro on the other hand seems to have a better handshake relationship, at least with my Q9FN. I can choose the right hdmi black level on my tv and pair it with the console settings and have the perfect balance. I have tried all settings using my one x and have never achieved the same results, even when trying the same games. Games like HZD for instance look breath taking with my current configuration as does Ghost of Tsushima yet I have never been able to achieve the same levels even with RDR2 on my one x, even after years of tinkering.

@@Loophole23742 Thank you for following up.