MAGE in Cataclysm Classic: Was It Any Good Though? 

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2:11 Int gives spellpower in Cata. Mana does not.

there is a reason the company is called "Blizzard" and not "Charge". Mages will never be bad

Thank you for the video! I remember fire Mage mobility was crazy due to being able to scorch while moving 😅

Can't wait to play new (old?) Combustion. Was my fav iteration of Fire ever.

SO HYPE FOR THESE VIDEOS! LETS GO!!!! I look forward to these more than the actual expansion, they help sooo much thank you @WillE

If memory serves me right, Cata was the xpac that made me switch from frost to fire as main spec. I'm looking forward to it.

Fire mage was really fun in pvp. If i remember correctly you would fish for the hot streak proc until you have one free pyro that you don't immediately use but instead try to get another hot streak (the one where you need another crit to get an instant pyro) and then you would use time warp. I don't exactly remember the sequencing but you would be able to get like 5 free pyroblasts in a row. A macro was used as well to maje it work smoothly. Makes for some great fun. Edit: nvm i guess this worked in mop

cata had the best versions of almost every class.

why did you highlight the spine of deathwing stacking INT trinket when talking about the haste buff from the tier?

@Wille 🎉great video. I wish we have them more often

I remember loving Cataclysm Fire spec leveling as one instead of Frost. Combustion was in its most fun form. I never really enjoyed the spec as much after they made Combustion a cooldown window again.

Lvling mine on wrath as we speak for cata

I liked Arcane in BGs too. I never tries RBGs in Cata, but I did play some battlegrounds. Arcane is fun, if people forget you are there, tou can start deleting fools left right and center. it is incredibly squishy thou. that I will freely admit.

Arcane Blast stacks no longer increase the damage of Arcane Barrage or Arcane Missiles. A weird change I didn't remember.

Ive been shredding the dps charts since prepatch. A huge lead against any other dps. Itll balance out once we start leveling but wow its been fun. ICC 25 some aoe pulls ill run over 200k dps and 30-35k sustained on ST boss fights.

Just got my beta invite let’s go!

Fireball have lower casttime anf 40yard range buff or not?

17:46 Mins and Seconds just to say yes. Mage always the best :D

we need a legendary spec tier list!

Can't wait for you to cover the rogue guide 😁 keep up the good work

i remember arcane being the most insane dps on my server

One thing I think you didn't mention is how Mage Armor changes. It now gives you 3% mana in regular 5-second ticks at all times, which makes it very powerful and the obvious choice for Arcane. Arcane gameplay has changed quite significantly as well - where WotLK Arcane basically just casts 4 Arcane Blasts into Arcane Missiles for the entire fight (and maybe spams some Blasts if there's mana to waste), Cata Arcane now has two phases: a burn phase and a conserve phase. Burn phase is easy, you stack your Arcane Blast to 4, pop your cooldowns, and keep spamming Arcane Blast until you're at ~30% mana. Then you use Evocation and enter conserve phase, where you use Arcane Blast and Missiles to stay as close to 100% mana as possible but never capping from a Mage Armor tick. You can enter burn phase again when your evocation will come off CD at the right time to use it again, which depends on your gear. I just copied my WotLK mage to the Cata beta and with my current gear (6.3k GS) I can stay in burn phase for about 35 seconds, which is a very long time. So I have to enter burn phase about 35 seconds before Evo comes off CD. Haven't found a usable damage meter yet so I can't really talk about dps, but it feels pretty strong. Might even be competitive for prepatch, but I think Fire will still be better in singletarget, and has an obvious advantage when it comes to AoE.

I want to play mage again so bad but I already got too many toons. 3s was a blast as fire spec. Ring of frost and smoke bomb into a big combustion fire blast proc was nearly impossible to survive without popping an big invuln cd.

So we play fire or arcane in the first tier.? Fire feels strange on the beta at the moment

Anyone remember the add on bar that told you when / what to cast for arcane 😅

if i recall correctly fireblast always spreads combustion dots. it had nothing to do with rng.

when will the paladin video coming?

Mages have recently become my new favorite class.. I enjoy being a pet less hunter.

Imagine if Arcane Mages in Cata had their talents in Season of Discovery expanded to improve their healing abilities. You could see some major changes done right quick if the speed of Professional gamers has anything to do with how a class gets nerfed later in the expansion.

as a hardcore mage player in cata, use mage was absolute blast in cata. i didnt really like frost, but fire and arcane dominated the top dps charts through the entire expantion.

World of Magecraft! 🧙‍♂️🕳️

Should i choose mage which i have heirlooms for or hunter in cata

At least in beta, haste is not improving Combustion in any way, what do you think about this, it's now the time when cata firemages run crit/mastery instead of crit/haste?

to be more clear if you use arcane explosion you still lose the buff after 4 seconds or whatever , it does not refresh it

".. and it looks like someone at Blizz really liked their mage" lol yes Ghostcrawler the lead dev played a mage so they were always on top back in the day. Just a funny thought

I'm a shimmy lover but dann.😊

Please do warlock next

I'll be Arcane Mage at the start and then I'll be in my off-spec of Fire by early mid.

Pre Raid frost mage is actually the best mage in pve imho

Okay but fire mage in cata makes perfect sense..

Worgen mage here I come ❤

1 word, Combustion

I seem to recall frost being viable in pve

mana does not give spellpower, int gives spell power along with giving more mana and spell crit. all more mana lets you do is cast more often before going oom, it does not effect the str of your spells.

I played a raiding frost mage in cata and you are sleeping on it

Day 17 waiting for Paladin. We will get there soon boys

Arcane Blast getting that slowing talent isn't exaxtly what makes Arcane Mage a viable leveling spec in Cata. It's them finally, FINALLY getting Arcane Blast before they reach Zangarmarsh. The level Arcane Blast is learned is reduced all the way down from 60+ to the *extremely* early Level 20. Wrath did the same with Shaman's Water Shield, Warrior's Victory Rush, and Hunter's Vioer Aspect.

frost pve where?

Mage Yes

I dont know why - maybe because it's rooted in lore or it just looks off but night elf mages always bothered me lol

warrior all day

Still waiting for warrior and DK :D

*speaks about pvp in cata classic* good joke :''D all the fuckers are in all their mega servers. Match making should be cross server.

It was so good... Some call it fap material?

why not talk about arcane in pvp? I am an arcane mage and destroy most people in pvp

If mages can heal in cata I’ll play it 100%

no it sucked. At lv 80 do some raids... get all the way to the DS raid and you will be doing less at 85 in full bis... Classic wow 2 means classic LFR which came out in cata.

Mage isn't viable in t11 in 10m. Everything else, it is fine.

honestly ready for cata to drop and the playerbase not care at all because sod is carrying the IP

I dunno why, but “Worgen Mage” just doesn’t seem right to me 🤷‍♂️

It's a shame they're horrendously boring to play

Would be fun if there was a money betting system on how hard Cata will flop. WOTLK has been barren for months on end the moment people cleared ICC once. They should have stopped the Classic trend, but it seems that they haven't learned their lesson yet.

550g for a guild sig today.... i really hope they ban GDKP for Cata..... pls Blizzard listen to this!!! Or just do a server reset for gold.

The problem is Cata was not good so the rest is a moot point.

are you in any way involved with scotty? didn't he just have this happening months ago with the same exact title??? btw I remember the twisted treeline LMFAO

Hi :)

Mages (and hunters) are already played by the biggest mouth breathers, them being even better has me worried