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Adam quizzes Carl, a Magic the Gathering player on the power level of some Yu-Gi-Oh! cards. Some of them are meta warping, others are just utter trash.
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@ravitegar6582
@ravitegar6582 Год назад
"I know the rules" solid proof that he isn't Yu-Gi-Oh player
@zanpakutoman4225
@zanpakutoman4225 Год назад
"So, I have to sac 2 monsters to special summon this?" Oh......he doesn't realize how broken special summoning is...he doesn't realize how free the mechanics are. What an innocent mind.
@Otzkar
@Otzkar Год назад
"What do you mean it misses timing?! It says that when it's sent to the graveyard this effect activates!"
@xitsmeblue
@xitsmeblue Год назад
Screw the rules I have money
@neonoah3353
@neonoah3353 Год назад
"and this is speed 2..." Yeah, a yugioh player would not know that.
@wireless1142
@wireless1142 Год назад
@@zanpakutoman4225 I genuinely don't remember the last time I tributed anything tbh. I also run pendulum though so what do I know.
@Gymnasiar
@Gymnasiar Год назад
It appears the Magic Players have an edge over us Yugioh players with the ability to actually read cards.
@daredeviler2088
@daredeviler2088 Год назад
As a Magic player, my decks that partially rely on my opponents not reading the card texts win way too often for this to be true.
@StrawMan1235
@StrawMan1235 Год назад
Magic cards generally have a lot less text than yugioh cards . Even cards like questing beast which are wordy have less text than the average yugioh card.
@zaifir8119
@zaifir8119 Год назад
I think its a bit easier to look at a card and think of how good it is when no further recource cost exists. In yugioh you have no mana so if the effect is good in enough situations or good for a specific strategy its probably good, while a magic card can be amazing or terrible depending on its mana cost. 3 damage to any target is a useful effect. For 1 mana its a staple everywhere its legal in, for 2 mana it can be pretty playable as long as its not outclassed by a cheaper alternative and for 4 mana it would need some serious additional upside to be worth it.
@ColtonH1738
@ColtonH1738 Год назад
Only bc magic cards have text written at a 3rd grade level
@Diq_Yoda
@Diq_Yoda Год назад
@@ColtonH1738 I'd say wizards just does a good job of using keywords and expressing concepts through as few words as necessary. Many effects in magic you simply have to know, and that lessens the word count
@aeonicx
@aeonicx Год назад
“First hand trap ever was effect veiler “ Kuriboh: “am I a joke to you?”
@KingBat
@KingBat Год назад
Literally my thought exactly.
@NotBamOrBing
@NotBamOrBing Год назад
And DD Crow
@kslayer55
@kslayer55 Год назад
yea I thought this immediately after watching also 😅
@john1691
@john1691 Год назад
and battle fader and hanewata and
@jerrychen3360
@jerrychen3360 Год назад
lol more like first competitive hand trap
@d53njac
@d53njac Год назад
- That's a little girl. - It is, yeah. Classic Yugioh discussion. lmao
@fredca7178
@fredca7178 Год назад
"Banish 10 is a low cost for what it does" This man knows his stuff
@sumanoskae
@sumanoskae Год назад
Truism of every TCG: milling yourself is almost never a serious threat and card draw is ALWAYS good. A deck needs to have a lot more cards than the average player will ever draw in a single game, otherwise people would deck out constantly. And since in real life - as opposed to anime - you run multiples of your staples milling doesn’t often cost you permanent resources.
@mooncalf_4534
@mooncalf_4534 Год назад
@@sumanoskae "and card draw is ALWAYS good." You're trash at UNO
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Год назад
"But you're gonna banish your important cards and bla bla bla"
@MindstabThrull
@MindstabThrull Год назад
I know two things about that which would help it make more sense for him: (1) There was an important card in Magic back in the day that exiled (MTG's analogue to banishing) the top ten cards of your library to deal damage to your opponent. It saw a LOT of play. (2) It is SO MUCH EASIER in Yugioh to get back cards that were banished than it is to get exiled cards in Magic.
@beefnoodlegaming
@beefnoodlegaming Год назад
@@MindstabThrull I know he probably didn't know what the meaning of face-down banishment is, but in YGO it's almost impossible to interact with face-down banished cards (which is what Desires does). So the entire "getting back banished cards is easier to do" is pretty untrue.
@giuseppepepe4404
@giuseppepepe4404 Год назад
Fun fact,when the Iris Swordswoul got out, everyone thought it was gonna be a staple,and she was kinda expensive
@CardmarketYGO
@CardmarketYGO Год назад
I may have picked up a copy or two off my friend. For what would now be considered, an extortionate price... 😅
@giuseppepepe4404
@giuseppepepe4404 Год назад
@@CardmarketYGO And i may or may not have sold several of those at that price
@silverG777
@silverG777 Год назад
She's still too expensive for what she is lol
@gaigesmith502
@gaigesmith502 Год назад
My buddy wants a swordsoul deck and its gonna cost him 250
@Derpe69420
@Derpe69420 Год назад
@@gaigesmith502 350 if he wants baronne
@jaernihiltheus7817
@jaernihiltheus7817 Год назад
For clarification, the reason she's a zombie is because of censorship-based translation issues. The "zombie" type in japanese is called the "undead" type. Which is why most zombies are ghosts, not zombies. Same goes for why most "fairy" type monsters are angel-based. Because the japanese name for the fairy type is the "angel" type.
@keinkanal7382
@keinkanal7382 Год назад
It's also important to note that Japanese Yokai their versions of demons and spirits which ash blossom is based on, generally are put there too.
@xitsmeblue
@xitsmeblue Год назад
Wait Despia's are Angels then?
@marclenraymagdaraog691
@marclenraymagdaraog691 Год назад
@@xitsmeblue *Fallen Angels*
@lucidlullaby894
@lucidlullaby894 Год назад
Shiranui makes a lot more sense now
@jaernihiltheus7817
@jaernihiltheus7817 Год назад
Also for future reference: "Sea serpent" = "sea dragon" in the japanese, hence why most sea snakes are reptile or aqua and why a lot of sea serpents aren't serpentine at all. "Fiend" = "Devil" type. Hence why all of them are demons or demon-like monsters. "Wyrm" = "ghost dragon". Which is the technical distinction between the two types. Wyrms are more so spirit dragons, heavenly dragons, dragon corpses (or things wearing dragon corpses like swordsoul), etc. There are some wyyrms that are just wyrms for the sake of not having access to broken AF dragon type support, but this is the reason why most wyrms are wyrms and not dragons.
@mouthyschannel2474
@mouthyschannel2474 Год назад
Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring is actually based on the story of 'Hanasaka Jiisan'; About a dog that gave their elderly owners good fortune. This story includes the death of the dog, the scattering of their remains at a dead cherry blossom tree and even the effect is a reference to the tale, about how it will stop the greedy from finding fortune.
@frogace55
@frogace55 Год назад
So that's why it says no to deck retrieval. . .
@mouthyschannel2474
@mouthyschannel2474 Год назад
@@frogace55 I highly recommend looking up the story. It's sad but very heartwarming too.
@drstrangelove77
@drstrangelove77 Год назад
Wow thank you for sharing that! I like how it shows where the unusual details in this card's design are coming from.
@ashikjaman1940
@ashikjaman1940 Год назад
Is this also the origin of Spooky Dogwood?
@HowlingDoom
@HowlingDoom Год назад
@@ashikjaman1940 all the ghost girls, or yokai girls, are based on such stories.
@Prominexus
@Prominexus Год назад
"And we're going to go to the last card. You ready?" "Yep." "Okay. Ash-" *STAPLE*
@MercuryA2000
@MercuryA2000 Год назад
I had a feeling it was gonna be ash or maxx C. I dunno why.
@zerocalvin
@zerocalvin Год назад
"the 1st hand trap is effect viler" poor kuriboh, everyone forget that it's the very 1st hand trap ever existed..
@VGV1deo
@VGV1deo Год назад
Poor Honest too, it was the 2nd
@Spyko-
@Spyko- Год назад
@@VGV1deo and honest was the first meta relevant handtrap I believe
@ChuuniKaede
@ChuuniKaede Год назад
@@Spyko- D.D. Crow pre-dates Honest by a year.
@oranganewton
@oranganewton Год назад
Neko Mane King was out in Pharaohic Guardian, and was used in a number of sideboards to fight against Empty-Jar decks
@velarana8303
@velarana8303 Год назад
@@ChuuniKaede d.d crow wasn't run almost at all till maybe dragonruler format
@EeveeReturn
@EeveeReturn Год назад
This was a nifty video! I especially like how Carl saw Pot of Desires and said "that's too low of a cost!" when the common sentiment before it was released was "I don't want to run a minus 9!" Truly, Carl understands card advantage better than most! Also, I'd say that Adam is half right on Effect Veiler being the first hand trap, since it was truly the first one to be a real Staple, but technically it was preceded by Honest and the classic Kuriboh.
@diamonddudeygo
@diamonddudeygo Год назад
And D.D. Crow, and Heralds of Green, Purple and Orange Light, but yeah.
@luminous3558
@luminous3558 Год назад
Most people who thought that the cost of desires mattered were just casuals. However at the time of its release I think there were a ton more garnets in most decks with brilliant fusion, predaplant darlingtonia cobra etc.
@MedjedTheEdjed
@MedjedTheEdjed Год назад
Kuriboh and Charm of Shabti were the first hand traps from my recollection
@feder373
@feder373 Год назад
@@luminous3558 It matters depending on the deck and format. If the best cards of the deck are limited, there's a good chance you lose them with the cost.
@alexv5581
@alexv5581 Год назад
Pretty amazing an mtg player understands pot of desires is a free +1 and yet we have dummies to this day saying the card sucks Lol
@IamGrimalkin
@IamGrimalkin Год назад
For Ash I think you actually didn't quite show how good it is: He asked if Ash could negate Desires, and you said it negates the whole effect; but for a magic player I think you should have clarified that you still pay the cost.
@mario31490
@mario31490 Год назад
Right if you ash it then you banish 10 and get nothing lol
@Mernom
@Mernom Год назад
And you still can't use another.
@Metallicity
@Metallicity Год назад
Magic works the same exact way, though. Spells and abilities can only be countered after the cost to cast/activate them has already been paid. And it was clearly explained when going through Pot of Desires that the banish was the cost in order to activate.
@IamGrimalkin
@IamGrimalkin Год назад
@@Metallicity Well yes, but he doesn't neccesarily know that it works the same way, so it's still worth clarifying. Especially since yugioh shows costs using semi-colons rather than a dedicated section.
@Vexy93
@Vexy93 Год назад
@@mario31490 What if you were playing Gren Maju and the cost was actually all you wanted?
@voidhug
@voidhug Год назад
Incredible how a magic player, with no real prior experience of yugioh, assesses pot of desires more accurately than a decent chunk of the yugioh player base which firmly believes the card is a "minus 9" lol
@maysachan9921
@maysachan9921 Год назад
Professional player will carry their experience to other place while causal will still cry about how their Blue-eyes deck can't win againt deck from 2015 and complain about how play Desires kill their combo deck cuz it is not suppose to be play their
@izzydarkhart4144
@izzydarkhart4144 Год назад
There are very similar cards in MTG and especially in game modes like commander where card advantage is king, I play a lot of yugioh and MTG and they actually have a lot more in common then most think.
@syrelian
@syrelian Год назад
@@izzydarkhart4144 Its actually an impressive read from a commander perspective still since its a no-dupes format, but Carl absolutely nailed the read, I tend to not favor it myself, but I wholy understand that its cost is meaningless if your deck doesn't either run top-manipulation or just runs through its cards fast, its just a +1, and in some decks, more than that(Necroface can recover stuff hit by it, it empowers Banish stacks still, etc), Very Fuckin Good Card
@noukan42
@noukan42 Год назад
It sirprise because i feel desire has 2 big problems that never came out in YGO but may come out in other games. 1)if the game is prone to grinds, it give you 10 less turns to close the match(on top of possibly depriving you of wincons) 2)if you play againinst Mill, that may as well not ecist in Yugi, you simplified a lot their wincon. Kinda like how paying too much LP if you are againist a burn deck may be nkt the brightest idea.
@syrelian
@syrelian Год назад
@@noukan42 Both of those risks totally exist in YGO, and are things to think about regarding using it in your deck, for example, Lightsworns(as old and meh as they are now) have to be VERY concerned about the cost because they self-Mill constantly Mill doesn't exist in the current meta, but was a playstyle for a reasonable span of time in the past, and Stall never ceases to see attempts with toxic shit like Mystic Mine
@CaptainRed1000
@CaptainRed1000 Год назад
Correction; De-Fusion only gives back monsters if all the materials are in the user’s Graveyard. If you use De-Fusion on an opponent’s monster, unless it was summoned using only your monsters, then it would send that opponent’s monster back to the Extra Deck, but wouldn’t bring back the materials.
@Mernom
@Mernom Год назад
Won't it summon them back to YOUR field?
@CaptainRed1000
@CaptainRed1000 Год назад
@@Mernom Most likely. I haven't seen it done before so I can't say for certain, but that would make sense.
@angusbeefyeung
@angusbeefyeung Год назад
@@Mernom it has to be from your graveyard if you're trying to bring back from de fusion sadly
@windknife
@windknife Год назад
I can't believe De-Fusion was legal during the Fusion Fest. And while DPE ran rampant, it was amazing tech.
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Год назад
@@windknife can't dpe just target itself to not get targeted by de-fusion though?
@SvviftDeath
@SvviftDeath Год назад
As a fellow Magic player and little knowledge of YuGiOh I got 4 out of 5 correct. I also got tripped up by The Iris Swordsoul. Really puts into perspective how good a card needs to be to reach staple status in a given meta. For the next video when reading the card make it bigger on screen so that it is easily readable to the viewer. I had to pause a few times to look up the card in a separate tab. Especially the cards with a lot of text. Even enlarged they weren't very clear either. Would make it easier for the viewer to play along.
@ogeid772
@ogeid772 Год назад
The Iris Swordsoul isnt bad by any means, it just requires a bit too much setup for the payoff it provides, it could 100% become a staple in the future if the meta develops in a way that facilitates its applications
@josephcourtright8071
@josephcourtright8071 Год назад
It just shows the ridiculous power level of yugioh. It cannot be summoned turn 1, so trash.
@Primetheusgame
@Primetheusgame Год назад
You should Read Endymion, The Mighty Master of Magic. Still has the most text of any card in the game to this day. The split text boxes of Pendulum cards (its a pendulum monster) might make it feel even more complex.
@pablorosada9788
@pablorosada9788 Год назад
A good rule of thum with Yugioh cards is "How much do I depend on my what my opponent does or doesn't do to make this work?". The less you depend on your opponent, the better. The other good rule of thumb is "Am I getting more value out of the card than what I'm putting into?", keep in mind, value is measured both in raw number of cards (A.K.A. "card advantage") and in your advancement towards your overall gameplan.
@rosewarrior706
@rosewarrior706 Год назад
The de-fusion made me sad the equivalent I think would be a card in magic that can bounce back a specific monster type like artifact monsters, so I would have assumed that fusion is very specific and maybe he does not know there is more then fusion? But if that's the case can he knows the rules because MR4/5 are heavily tied to link monsters
@MKPROJECT2359
@MKPROJECT2359 Год назад
"Oh, so in that deck [tier 1] this is a staple." "No, they don't run it." "Oh, no...." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@wilhelmbecknee5870
@wilhelmbecknee5870 Год назад
More like this please!!! Too often mtg players kinda look down on Yu-Gi-Oh, this dudes willingness to learn about the game is so damn nice!!!
@CoffeeSipper555
@CoffeeSipper555 Год назад
Because it sucks
@jackievang3366
@jackievang3366 Год назад
@@CoffeeSipper555 found THAT magic player.
@flameofmage1099
@flameofmage1099 Год назад
I played Yugioh before I dropped it for Magic (not because I dislike it perse but because I just greatly prefer Magic) and in my opinion it's a good game. I think most people look down on it because it's often viewed as a children's card game.
@willlozinak5182
@willlozinak5182 Год назад
i play magic and i feel like the scenes respect each other a little more now. yugioh has gotten so complicated that i consider being able to understand the modern game an impressive feat
@peacechan4500
@peacechan4500 Год назад
Let's be honest here, Yu-Gi-Oh is the land of combos and magic player hates combos. Literally any deck in Yu-Gi-Oh is categorised as combo in magic.
@lorenzotanzi9851
@lorenzotanzi9851 Год назад
Fun fact: There is an hand trap in mtg too. Fairy Macabre, is basically a DD crow that banishes two, and its design is a nearly dead fairy girl, so is even in theme with the ghost girls in ygo.
@jeremydiamond8865
@jeremydiamond8865 Год назад
The first hand trap was kuriboh. Why does everyone always forget kuriboh? This is some kuriboh erasure right here.
@ashling9073
@ashling9073 Год назад
I'm surprised he never drew the comparison between Ash Blossom and Force of Will. Cool video.
@ToxicAtom
@ToxicAtom Год назад
I would love to see a variant of this video where all of the cards are one extra deck type, like 5 fusions, or 5 Xyz, etc.
@zanpakutoman4225
@zanpakutoman4225 Год назад
That'd be cool. Showcase a broken strong monster that never saw play, due to how hard it is to summon. It might be a little too unfair, because if it lists specific cards or archetypes for material or its effect(s) the guesser would probably need a brief explanation about those card(s) as well. But, still cool!
@ToxicAtom
@ToxicAtom Год назад
@@zanpakutoman4225 exactly my thoughts
@PAPP0NE
@PAPP0NE Год назад
Would be fun watching Carl trying to understand Nirvana High Paladin
@captainjusticeface1735
@captainjusticeface1735 Год назад
I love that Desire’s cost is explicitly mentioned but Ash isn’t given as the reason for why the 10 banish is real concern
@pinkdelicious655
@pinkdelicious655 Год назад
It's a concern anyway as you weren't getting those extra cards, meaning you bricked, meaning you lost.
@captainjusticeface1735
@captainjusticeface1735 Год назад
@@pinkdelicious655 no way !
@justinbaker4608
@justinbaker4608 Год назад
When normal ash blossom is the play it’s the craziest line. Setting ash blossom is definition desperation but normal summoning it is super dominant feeling to me
@ludicrous2213
@ludicrous2213 Год назад
The ultimate power move would be to use Ash and Maxx C for a synchro summon.
@ashikjaman1940
@ashikjaman1940 Год назад
@@ludicrous2213 They should make a crazy synchro that can only be summoned with a zombie tuner and insect non-tuner
@ravitegar6582
@ravitegar6582 Год назад
It's common thing to do in a deck that use Halq-Selene-Accescode engine I use it on Sky Striker. Normal summoning ash means "You death buddy"
@MercuryA2000
@MercuryA2000 Год назад
I know if I don't need my entire ED in master duel I toss in one of those accesscode engines to use off a tuner. Its just a free bomb.
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Год назад
It's funny because in sky strikers normal summoning ash is a combo starter
@SakuraAvalon
@SakuraAvalon Год назад
In the TCG, 'Undead' was changed to 'Zombie'. Ash is a ghost, based off her lore. She is the ghost of a child.
@jaynajuly2140
@jaynajuly2140 Год назад
Carl's positivity for a card game he doesn't really know too much about was super fun to witness!
@ceresgc
@ceresgc Год назад
I love how de-fusion actually saw play in speed duels, because since removal is much less versatile there, when XYZ union was meta it was a good way to out it.
@jmbw4271
@jmbw4271 Год назад
Ash Blossom and Joyous Spring Re: “Thats a little girl” Seems like a sane response
@gundamzeta3447
@gundamzeta3447 Год назад
The ghost girl hand traps are all based off famous Japanese ghost stories, the art and name of the cards references the story in question. Ash was based of a story of someone killing a dog and burying it under a cherry blossom and stuff happened then everything burned to the ground or something. The only story I remember completely is Ghost ogre snow rabbit.
@CottonCandyCrisis17
@CottonCandyCrisis17 Год назад
I feel like he gave away the ash blossom answer lol, by calling it it's shortened name (if it was a lesser known card nobody would shorten it) and saying that putting it in face down defense position is something that comes up a lot
@windknife
@windknife Год назад
When you brick with all hand traps, you set Imperm + Ash since she had the biggest booty.
@Masahane
@Masahane Год назад
He also gave it away by saying he's had to put it in defense position before
@CV-ct2lw
@CV-ct2lw Год назад
Really fun video, got a sub from me for this. Just wanted to point out that "Zombies" in the original version of the game are actually just called Undead which is way more accurate and fitting to some of the monsters that have come out since the early DM days. Zombie just seems like a bad localization change.
@checkmate7777
@checkmate7777 Год назад
I think Ash spesificly is a Zombie because it is a reference to Japanese Folklore
@ich3730
@ich3730 Год назад
@@checkmate7777 all the ghost girls are zombies, not just ash
@MrSHADOWfox99
@MrSHADOWfox99 Год назад
@@ich3730 ghost ogre is psychic
@PatheticMortal
@PatheticMortal Год назад
More of this, from card players from different tcg's. I want them to see how they react on Yugi oh shenanigans
@baileydombroskie3046
@baileydombroskie3046 Год назад
Same here. These types of vids r hard to come by and I love every bit of them all.
@spectate0074
@spectate0074 Год назад
id like to see a pokemon tcg player try rating yugioh.
@funa2865
@funa2865 Год назад
Iris sword soul feels like a weird one to choose. whilst it is technically part of the sword soul archetype it's not really a swordsoul in the way the other sword soul monsters are, it's also definitely a going second tool which is a gameplan which doesn't have many good toolds right now. If I had to choose it would definitely be 'stinker' rather than 'staple' but I still don't think 'stinker' is quite right because primarily I don't think it's found a home. Maybe that's copium, but it's to me a middle of the road, not quite good enough yet card. Ash blossom is a dog girl not a cat btw.
@luminous3558
@luminous3558 Год назад
Yeah Iris is seeing some play in master duel as part of a really expensive going 2nd luna kaiju deck. The deck is very popular but seems underwhelming for the cost attached to it in master duel.
@AzNZinc
@AzNZinc Год назад
i wish i could run iris swordsoul in the archetype, its such a neat card but has a lot of requirements for not great payoff.
@LuisEduardoGalarzaCervantes
@@luminous3558 it is used in the sage the fleur combo which works even under skill drain. You summon ecclesia the virtuous then target skill drain and ecclesia to summon him, then quick effect ecclesia into iris and you get a free pop. A similar combo is also used with luna quick effect targeting your enemy field kaiju to return it to your hand. She is also used in some charmer/magistus decks during the borreload combo since your special summoning is kinda limited going first and zoroa special summons a negated monster. I think iris is a very good card by itelf that can even be used as a handtrap if you main deck veilers/imperms, is just that she is pretty much a brick and not worth running more than 1 copy, but Luna Kaiju decks can unbrick their hand pretty easily using dangers or sekka's light.
@LamunesADV
@LamunesADV Год назад
@@luminous3558 During Synchro Fest i played 3 Iris. It's incredible how many Synchro focus combos Special Summon monsters with their effects negated (before real SwordSouls)
@overlyasian3488
@overlyasian3488 Год назад
i was under the impression that iris was a going first/mirror match tool because chi xiao exists?
@TimothyGod
@TimothyGod Год назад
I love seeing new players learn how insane and weird yugioh could be
@ashikjaman1940
@ashikjaman1940 Год назад
Yugioh is the crackhead's tcg
@TimothyGod
@TimothyGod Год назад
@@ashikjaman1940 yes
@jonathannorris9475
@jonathannorris9475 Год назад
@@ashikjaman1940 and that's why we love it.
@LKMizore112
@LKMizore112 Год назад
The first handtrap was Kuriboh, the first good one is probably D.D. Crow, an era before Veiler.
@klutzmtg2310
@klutzmtg2310 Год назад
I think Droll was released before Crow.
@DaemonRayge
@DaemonRayge Год назад
@@klutzmtg2310 Droll came out much later than Crow. Crow was mid-GX era. Droll was 5Ds era.
@chaosae3143
@chaosae3143 Год назад
There was also Puppet Plant and Electric Virus which have had niche uses occasionally and were the same set as crow
@tylerlane8221
@tylerlane8221 Год назад
Damage step kalut
@baconsir1159
@baconsir1159 Год назад
@@klutzmtg2310 I can see why the art would have you think that, but Crow was a lot earlier
@DuncanHarbison
@DuncanHarbison Год назад
The plot twist is that de-fusion was actually amazing when everyone was playing branded despia but not punk therion, it's great removal in the mirror (no they don't get the monsters back) and you can otk with it, trigger fallen of albaz in the opponents turn, or even just auto-win games by going branded fusion send fallen + kristya, cl1 albion cl2 de-fusion target albion and you have a kristya which also plays round super poly.
@ivanmaterazzo2631
@ivanmaterazzo2631 Год назад
Super Poly already does what De-Fu does but better. De-Fusing an opponent monster is just a 1 for 1. Cleaning 2 monsters with Super Poly is a +1. It also has otk potential and utility against non-fusion strategies thanks to Mudragon and Starving Venom. Despia is already quite hard to make it work in this format without bricking while finding answers for non-mirror meta threats. De-Fu is just too overkill when you can side more generic and better cards.
@foxfireinferno197
@foxfireinferno197 Год назад
I'm hardly an expert YGO player, but to me, the cost of losing 10 cards to Pot of Desires is nothing; it's basically the same as not seeing the last ten cards of your deck.
@paps3060
@paps3060 Год назад
While the cost is low, the 'not seeing the last 10 cards in your deck' analogy only really works in a hypothetical deck with no searchers, and possibly no shuffling. Losing the bottom cards of a deck only doesn't matter if you'd never see them anyway, but that definitely isn't the case if you're searching cards (and shuffling, but searching is a guarantee to see them). You could potentially use a searcher to look for a card you want from anywhere in the deck and find that it's been banished, after all. Not bad enough to make Desires bad, especially with 3 copies of each, but still worth considering.
@peterfischer2039
@peterfischer2039 Год назад
@@paps3060 In the same vein you could hit a searcher that sits 11 to 12 cards deep in your deck below currently dead cards, so the Pot would draw you the searcher you need to win. You should for the majority of cases treat the lose 10 cards cost as a non cost, except if you find yourself in a meta where decking is the best strategy to play, then reducing your deck size is always bad.
@KariThomasMiller
@KariThomasMiller Год назад
This is always how to view exile/banish from deck effects. If you don't plan on drawing your entire deck, the 'downside' is virtually nothing.
@amaxingmusic9334
@amaxingmusic9334 9 месяцев назад
In general, there are far more deck-searching effects in YGO, and the game is far more combo-focused (think Legacy). Losing all copies of a card to the banish and bricking your tutor(s) (remember they're banished face down, you don't know whether the card's still there before you activate your tutor) can be devastating. Still, a free +1 is still totally worth it to decks that don't run many one-off tutor targets.
@mikaela5938
@mikaela5938 Год назад
i didn't realize how much Ash has sky rocketed in price, im really glad i bought my 3 copies of duel devastator a few years ago when i did
@pancakeplate
@pancakeplate Год назад
Just buy three salamangreat structure decks
@bbenneddyy4130
@bbenneddyy4130 Год назад
it is so satisfying and wholesome to see non yugioh player learning about yugioh card with passion toward card game and try to comprehend its unique game system. love to see more of this 💕
@alinagray4132
@alinagray4132 Год назад
Pot of Desires has a bit of secondary math that comes up, which is the chance to draw into another one during a "critical window" of having used the first one. The cost may be considered low for what it does, but the 2nd activation starts to get steep enough that being "unlucky" is realistic enough that unless the deck cares even less about what it draws, to the point that drawing unusable cards still has a place, it ends up being that at 3 copies in ~40, you will get screwed over by pot something like 1 in 50 games, or 1 in 17 ish matches, which depending on the margins for winning in that tournament meta, can be a game changer. 2 copies ends up being safer most of the time.
@rodrigoandrade256
@rodrigoandrade256 Год назад
But when you run 3 of a card you don't necessarily do that to use it 3 times. Usually you just want to increase the chances of having it in your first hand,
@alinagray4132
@alinagray4132 Год назад
@@rodrigoandrade256 that's just step 1, and as far as wanting it in your starting hand, its valid. But step 2 is your chance to draw into another one within the draw 2, and also a couple of cards after where its considered likely to see in game. This leads to the mentioned math, where running desires at 3, can start running into the risk of drawing another copy too soon and leaving you stranded at a rate that might be uncomfortable for longer tournaments in metas where its hard to make comebacks. Keep in mind that desires still has a hard once per turn attached too, so seeing another desires off the first, doesn't even let you play it on desperation to try and end the game. It's less that people don't want to see Desires in their opening hand, but the math that when Desires is run at 3, and you run it knowing that 1 in 50 or so Desires is going to give you bad cards, a lot of decks can elect to play a stronger card to replace that 3rd, or even 2nd Desires instead.
@suisui5930
@suisui5930 Год назад
Tldr, use desire to draw 2 desires, get fucked!
@rodrigoandrade256
@rodrigoandrade256 Год назад
@@alinagray4132 I'm not saying you are wrong, but my point is that it doesn't matter as much. On a more extreme example, invoked players play 7 copies of Aleister (2 Aleister, 2 Meltdown, 1Terraforming) and he's a card that completely relies on your normal summon. They don't care about the chance of drawing multiples because it's more important just to have it
@MVAS-mp9oo
@MVAS-mp9oo Год назад
That's what make skilled player different, they banish the other 2 desires. Just like how they draw both Aleister the Invoker and Invocation.
@Grayewick
@Grayewick Год назад
De-Fusion is actually neat on older formats (and possibly also in the future with a certain GY oriented Fusion strategy), because it's usually being used like how you would use El Shaddoll Fusion/any Quick-Play Fusion Spell in combat or like he said, to dodge targeting effects, except a bit different.
@victikirby15
@victikirby15 Год назад
Back when Master Duel was having its Fusion Festival event, I ran a few copies of it in the deck I used for that. It’s funny when the opponent is super unprepared for it.
@Grayewick
@Grayewick Год назад
@@victikirby15 situational removal is still removal, all it just takes is one right format
@jkid1134
@jkid1134 Год назад
You're kinda signaling staple status when you say "oh yeah that comes up all the time". You did it for pot and ash 😂
@mcflurrymcfee2420
@mcflurrymcfee2420 Год назад
Lmao that's wut I was saying. Ofc hes gonna say it's a staple after him saying that comes up alot with glowy eyes 😂
@tcgsforlife2574
@tcgsforlife2574 Год назад
It's funny hearing calling monsters creatures because I was a Yugioh player first and kept calling creatures monsters and the library the deck. I understand! It took me forever to call them the right thing! Now I keep calling things creatures by mistake. Yes, please do more of these!
@alejo210
@alejo210 Год назад
I love that Adam and Carl are sitting in the same spots as in the Magic Series, just moving the cards to the other side, it's like the tables have been quite literally turned on Carl.
@Agreel
@Agreel Год назад
3:48 Summoning the fusion materials is optional, so they don't necessarily get any monsters. Back in a day, I used to side this card for Shaddolls, where it acts as a quicker Compulse.
@kiwi5slayer
@kiwi5slayer Год назад
also, correct me if I'm wrong but the card states" if the monsters are in your graveyard, so if you target an opponent's monster, only if they're in your grave, you can summon them. No where on the card does it say summon anything to your opponent's field
@ShmarveyXD
@ShmarveyXD Год назад
I really enjoy your videos, despite your channel-size its rather high-quality. Keep up the good work! You got my sub
@Uria-jz1gu
@Uria-jz1gu Год назад
For new player I can explain how synchro summoning works : to perform a synchro summon you need a tuner and a non tuner whose level equal the total level of the monster you want to summon, which doesn’t matter cause you use them to summon the only synchro monster of the game halquifibrax the not yet forbidden one and win the duel
@ashikjaman1940
@ashikjaman1940 Год назад
Halq, wanted for the murder of several tuners
@godlyMike127
@godlyMike127 Год назад
Going through my old Yugioh cards made me realize how many crazy old gems I have. LOD blue eyes white dragon, etc. Very fun nostalgia
@tomsky4751
@tomsky4751 Год назад
“The first hand trap was like effect veiler” Kuriboh: “Am i a joke to you”
@sushipbestdeck8995
@sushipbestdeck8995 Год назад
Yes
@harleymorvant4719
@harleymorvant4719 Год назад
A misunderstanding on defusion though. If you use it on an opponents card they dont get the fusion material back because the card specifies that the required monsters have to come from your grave not either.
@ABOUNDTANA
@ABOUNDTANA Год назад
this is great you gotta do the opposite though where a yugioh player rates magic cards
@Curelax
@Curelax Год назад
I nominate necropotence
@DreamPurpleFloyd
@DreamPurpleFloyd Год назад
They actually did it, it's on the MTG Cardmarket channel
@tcoren1
@tcoren1 Год назад
Duellogs had 3 videos of that nature
@sera_sarzad
@sera_sarzad Год назад
Check out The Duel Logs
@genm4827
@genm4827 Год назад
De-Fusion was such an inspired pick for the video! Really enjoyed it
@xposition2001
@xposition2001 Год назад
I'm a long time MTG player and have recently started playing Yu Gi Oh Master Duels because I can't afford to play real anything right now and it scratches that itch. I've really found these videos fun because I'm trying to guess alongside each person and it teaches me some new things I didn't already know.
@xXxcyborg1996xXx
@xXxcyborg1996xXx Год назад
The reasons why defusion is a stinker baffle me It's bad cuz barely anyone played fusions and now there is way more versatile removal Also, if you defusion you opponents monster, they don't get the materials back
@owesyoumoney3912
@owesyoumoney3912 Год назад
You also have stuff like red eyes dragoon that can’t be targeted by card effects, and DPE which can chain its effect to destroy it itself. I’m not sure how despia stuff does haven’t read them.
@jonathanellwood2093
@jonathanellwood2093 Год назад
@@owesyoumoney3912 Honestly despia is too good at card advantage to be worried about losing one monster. If you're against double mirrorjade and you just take 1200 to defusion one of them, you're already dead honestly
@buffthepuff5299
@buffthepuff5299 Год назад
@@jonathanellwood2093 the burn card isn’t mirrorjade it’s masquerade but ur 100% right on why despia doesn’t care
@ainevek
@ainevek Год назад
It's bad because dbarrier just counters fusion decks way better and is a way more versatile side. On your own turn, droplet and drnm also deal with these monsters better than defusion would
@jonathanellwood2093
@jonathanellwood2093 Год назад
@@ainevek I mean yeah dbarrier is just better in every way but Despia's advantage makes the difference way more visible, when you can only fusion summon 1 monster a turn, defusion and dbarrier perform the same (say in GX Era where you go -2 for a Fusion summon), but when you can perform multiple fusion Summons a turn, it becomes much more apparent
@lefthandedscout9923
@lefthandedscout9923 Год назад
Iris is super summonable turn 1 - cards like Living Fossil can drop it super easily, and you don't even need to drop it turn 1 for it to be useful. It hard counters DRNM and also lets you go plus off your own Imperm, Veiler or your opponents Imperm. Calling it a stinker is silly when this card sees experimentation (albeit not in Swordsoul decks, funnily enough!).
@trueballerkj
@trueballerkj Год назад
Lol I thought I was losing my mind hearing a bell for way too long lol. Great video. And a new subscriber
@Its109TheGamer
@Its109TheGamer Год назад
"All the ghost girls are zombies" Ghost Ogre and Snow Rabbit would like to know your location
@overlyasian3488
@overlyasian3488 Год назад
if this gets done again i'd like to see witch's strike and upstart goblin being featured. the first one seems good because it takes literally everything away from your opponent and the second seems bad because it "does nothing" (aka "just play good cards instead")
@scarletterose1303
@scarletterose1303 Год назад
in modern Yugioh Upstart sees a lot less play due to how efficient decks have become and the need to have turn 2 cards like Lightning Storm just so you don't lose to a Coin Toss
@communistpropagandist4608
@communistpropagandist4608 Год назад
I thought De-fusion was going to be a combo stable. Sacing a creature to get multiple creatures back sounds op.
@madrahal
@madrahal Год назад
I love these! I love all your videos, but especially these because it’s so cool to get an “outsider’s” perspective on cards! Two comments: 1) I would’ve enjoyed it more if the card was bigger! I can’t read all the text on iris soulsword when it’s down in the bottom right corner 2) plz play unbanned storm in next unbanned modern? Keep it up y’all are the best!
@Astonsayswhat
@Astonsayswhat Год назад
great series, definitely make more.
@Kuchiri
@Kuchiri Год назад
Your opponent doesn't get their monsters back with Defusion if you use it on them since it's your own grave yard. You can summon the monsters from your graveyard to your field if you had them. Swordsoul has some self negates in their cards. Plus there are negate handtraps Ash doesn't stop draw phase.
@m.b.7560
@m.b.7560 Год назад
But what if your opponent used your cards with Super Poly
@Kuchiri
@Kuchiri Год назад
@@m.b.7560 Yeah. You get your cards back to your side of the field. Your opponent loses the fusion monster. It is better to think of the card as a series of steps. Imagine the effect is: 'When you play this card, target 1 Fusion Monster then these effects activate in order.' *Return that target to the Extra Deck *If all the fusion materials that was used to create the fusion monster are in your GY you can Speical Summon them Since the game counts materials as the names on the card and not the exact card used. (I.E. How would you differentiate if you had three Celestials in the graveyard when you're trying to defuse DPE? What if you banished the exact card using it's effect) Any card with those names can be summoned from your graveyard. This was extremely common in Duel Link during Tier 0 Neos Fusion format where it was very likely you were running the same warriors with Neos. Turn 1: I make Brave Neos which had all kinds of protection thanks to Neos Fusion. Turn 2: You Defusion it forgetting to summon your own Neos Fusion first so you don't have the cards in your graveyard. Then you Fusion your own Brave NEos anyways. Turn 3: I defusion but since we both used Neos and Neos Ailus to achieve our Brave Neos. I get to summon back my monsters from my graveyard as some sort of double monster reborn. I go to attack and you stop it somehow leaving me with the two monsters. Turn 4: You Super Poly into your second copy of Brave Neos. Hit me for 3k ish Turn 5: I defusion again and get my monsters back for game.
@BramLastname
@BramLastname Год назад
I love this because you can tell that he's familiar with the common ground, But the ones he messed up are the most easy to misjudge.
@AlClickTune
@AlClickTune Год назад
I love that you put ash next to desires, reminds me of these painful table-flipping moments when your desires get ashed :D
@bl00by_
@bl00by_ Год назад
Another good thing about ash is that it's a tuner. There are alot of situations in which you use it for halq plays like the accesscode line in striker or just lvl 10 synchro plays like the brave piles.
@HaydenX
@HaydenX Год назад
De-Fusion just needs the right meta to be a good side deck card. Like if Thunder Dragon Colossus came back or something, it's non-destruction removal that also doesn't give another GY resource.
@HaydenX
@HaydenX 9 дней назад
@@cortert103 It also sends the monster to the GY.
@XLuxtra
@XLuxtra Год назад
Honestly i run Iris in Dogma Invoked. And its pretty gud 80% of the Time you have a negated card on the field. Rip Aleister. Also man just disrespected Kuriboh, D.D Crow and Gorz the OG Handtraps
@AoNGemini
@AoNGemini Год назад
More content like this please!! Super entertaining
@James-bh3fq
@James-bh3fq Год назад
I always see these videos and for some reason it’s always Magic and Yugioh players. I would love to see this same format but with players from different card games, like Pokémon, Flesh and Blood, or like Vanguard
@ChrisSaur
@ChrisSaur Год назад
The ghost girls have different types (e.g. Ghost Ogre is a psychic)
@alicetheaxolotl
@alicetheaxolotl Год назад
"The first hand trap was Effect Veiler" Poor Kuriboh :(
@Jps927
@Jps927 Год назад
Please do more of this!!!
@ImmaLittlePip
@ImmaLittlePip Год назад
You should do a video that teaches magic players summoning techniques of Yu-Gi-Oh like ritual,synchro, pendulum, xyz ect
@maltazar4058
@maltazar4058 Год назад
"This fist hand trap was effect veiler" Kuriboh: Am I a joke to you?
@justinbaker4608
@justinbaker4608 Год назад
Calling Iris Swordsoul a stinker is so weird bc it’s definitely a card to keep an eye on. Some day some weird synergy might save it
@strayboya3726
@strayboya3726 Год назад
Nowdays ppl run negate deck... Hardly stinker
@LegendLeaguer
@LegendLeaguer Год назад
I feel like this series will continue since this is your most viewed video ever on the channel and eclipses the 2nd most watched video twofold in only 5 days
@bleistik821
@bleistik821 Год назад
Nice Video to watch as a mtg Player. I am quite suprised that this channel is much smaller than the mtg channel.
@atelierbohemand9826
@atelierbohemand9826 Год назад
defusion is actually good going second against tearalments. Their fusion monster doesn't trigger its GY effect and they dont get their monster effect.
@Callistemon
@Callistemon Год назад
too specific counter that will take to much place in side deck but yes
@Otzkar
@Otzkar Год назад
Or you could just play one of the other go second powerhouse cards like droplets, drnm, lightning storm
@IamGrimalkin
@IamGrimalkin Год назад
@@Callistemon I have no idea what terealments even is, but you can also use this card against Mirrorjade; so maybe it's not a bad tech card.
@pidgeyottot3527
@pidgeyottot3527 Год назад
@@IamGrimalkin It's a deck coming out from POTE. Basically new-age, insanely recursive Shadolls. This, Splight and Exosister is the current OCG meta.
@sera_sarzad
@sera_sarzad Год назад
@@Otzkar Their Fusions revive when you get rid of them by card effects, so LS is a no-go.
@elementalheroshadowX
@elementalheroshadowX Год назад
i don't understand why you don't explain the yugioh effects in mtg terms for the guy who doesn't play the game
@Andrewwwwwww
@Andrewwwwwww Год назад
Great video, I would make the card images larger for us to read next time!
@AllThingsEntertaining
@AllThingsEntertaining 10 месяцев назад
Yugioh went through a period of time where each set had like this really neat high level monster that had a pretty crazy or interesting effects. The Iris Swordsoul, Bahalutiya, the Grand Radiance, and Heavenly Zephyr - Miradora are a few of these.
@Danodan94
@Danodan94 3 месяца назад
I got an Ash Blossom in my Beware of Traptrix structure deck and was really happy to see it. 😊
@Mark-bc1ej
@Mark-bc1ej Год назад
Fantastic video, looking forward to more!
@SonicSailor
@SonicSailor Год назад
If I am not mistaken I met you at the german nationals! We were talking about the table 1 match up. Funny to stumble upon this youtube channel right now 😁
@Demon_of_Razgriz
@Demon_of_Razgriz Год назад
On the Once per Turn bit: Probably the best way to teach it is either once per turn, per copy, or once per turn, per player. for example: "Once per turn: [effect]" is Once per turn, per copy, this also means that if control of this specific copy was changed after the effect was used, that copy cannot use its effect again that turn. "You can only use this/each/the effect of [card name] once per turn." Is once per turn, per player. this means that if control is changed after the card has used its effect, the new controller may choose to activate said effects. There are other variations regarding activation legality for different scenarios, but these are the most common.
@thestarwolfgamer7394
@thestarwolfgamer7394 Год назад
I do like these interactions between different card games. Hoping to slowly dip my toes into Yugioh for the first time since playing with knockoff cards my brothers and I bought at the dollar store at the kitchen table, not knowing the rules.
@ma2xtrecords525
@ma2xtrecords525 Год назад
These video's are amazing bro!!
@EliasJG1985
@EliasJG1985 Год назад
Ahs is now in "Structure Deck Legend of the Crystal Beasts" as Common too.
@Jcbryant123
@Jcbryant123 Год назад
As someone who doesn't play MtG it's always interesting to me to hear their opinions on specific yugioh cards!
@ram5487
@ram5487 Год назад
I don’t know if I would have chosen these cards. I’d love to see his opinion on maxx c, zodiac Drident, witches strike, mystic mine, ghost sister and spooky dogwood, mirror force perhaps, phantazmay, and gizmek orochi.
@worm_9912
@worm_9912 Год назад
This videos was awesome would like another one
@alterchemist
@alterchemist Год назад
Fun vid, looking forward to more
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 Год назад
Decent analysis video! Thnaks for uploading!
@leverite6127
@leverite6127 Год назад
Just went back into the yugioh scene in master duel 2 days ago. Last one I played was like the 5ds one, damn so much going on lmao, and I finally learnt the pain of getting negated by ash blossom.
@onomatopoeia7219
@onomatopoeia7219 Год назад
Plz do more of these vids!
@jvsonic2468
@jvsonic2468 Год назад
There are ways Iris Swordsoul could be good as an extender turn 1 just because there are cards that brings other cards but have their effects are negated (not by negating an activation), however you still have to find a way to search it out or hard draw it like a handtrap. Like in Synchron decks, Normal Junk Synchron (a Level 3 Tuner) use its effect to bring back something from grave (a Level 2 or lower for people that don't know) and it has its effects negated, Special Irish Swordsoul, and either use it as Synchro Material for a Synchro Summon (1 Tuner + 1 non-Tuner monsters, are the Synchro Materials listed on every Synchro Monster and they belong in the Extra Deck as a type of Special Summon. The Levels of the materials have to add up to the Synchro Monster's Level) or use it as Link Material for a Link Summon (They are a versatile mechanic of monsters that you can use any monster to Special it from the Extra Deck as long as they meet the requirements of the Link Materials listed on of each one. Also, they do not have a Defense stat and therefore cannot go to Defense Position. Instead they're given what's called a Link Rating that replaces it that tells you how many monsters are needed to bring the card out. Link-3 or higher Link Monsters would say, [x>1]+ [something], which means you use the Link Rating of a Link Monster to count as more than one monster. That's called Link Climbing.) and Crystron Halquifibrax is an abusable card that exists. Sorry for the explanations. It's just for the non-Yu-Gi-Oh card game players out there.
@pawedziedzic3250
@pawedziedzic3250 10 месяцев назад
12:30 That was a shockingly good insight into a very niche aspect of a card, well done
@AlcheonArt
@AlcheonArt Год назад
"The first hand trap ever was Effect Veiler" *sad Kuriboh noises*
@jefi1298
@jefi1298 Год назад
"That's a little girl" Yeaaaaah welcome to Yugioh...
@darkira2129
@darkira2129 Год назад
the thing about Yu-Gi-Oh is like today you might be stinker, but tomorrow if like a new mechanic, or a card suit you very well, you might gonna be a staple
@friskydrinklunkybank1108
@friskydrinklunkybank1108 Год назад
Definitely. They should make a disclaimer that this vid applies on the current date it was released :p
@TheMorbidHobo
@TheMorbidHobo Год назад
Gunna go ahead and say that Kuribo was the REAL first hand trap.
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