Magic The Gathering Interviews: Green 

On you little man, I don't want to waste much time, you've been pushed around all your life.

deathshadow2492 you've been pushed around by your mother and your sister and your brother

Leif H And if you was married... You'd be pushed round by your wife.

Leif H but in your future for you I see! Is exactly the man you've always wanted to be.

Shake my hand. C'mon boys, won't you shake a poor old sinner's hand?

But a PEACH CANNOT DEFEAT TAI LONG!

Nice

I was just thinking of kung fu panda while I was watching this XD.

Maybe it can... if you are willing to guide it, to nurture it, to believe in it

Blue and Green's argument in a nutshell.

leopard eye Exactly. All five have a point, and all five have drawbacks. One many agree with one color more than the other four, but one must admit that the other four have something to say, even if you have to say "even a broken clock is right twice a day" in order to put yourself in the headspace to hear it.

To add to what's already been said, each color represents parts of the human psyche. Too much of any one color will create deficiencies, and every color when taken to their fullest extreme causes suffering and disaster in their wake. What's important is that even if you firmly identify with one color is to recognize when that color's philosophy fails and when another must step in. I consider myself firmly mono-red, but I don't believe in anarchy or acting solely on impulse and without thinking things through. I just want people to be honest with themselves and their emotions, and make decisions that make them happy rather than decisions that make complete logical sense or conforms to a law for the sake of the law or the logic. But I don't want people to hurt each other or themselves, either. It's a complicated thing to look at and understand, but my point is that taking any color to their extreme is always a bad idea.

To be honest, red is pure shit. The world right now falls in red philosophy.

@@marcoswillianl Really? Because I think white and blue can go to hell. The only reason why the world is so bad is because less people are embracing their own emotions and the emotions of others. White and blue don't care about emotions, they care about their own preconceived notions of right and wrong, or that fallacy of justice people call logic.

@@marcoswillianl is this a joke or did you not read the comment correctly

@@himboghost629 I did, why? Am I obligated to agree? Red is crap.

@@marcoswillianl why do you believe red is crap?

Inrezairo I love your voice acting. I’m glad I finally got to see the video!

I enjoy listening to your voice acting. I'm glad I seen this video

Thank you very much :-D

I'm going to say this: Out of the Colors yours and Red's were the ones I was looking forward to the most. So to me this made my week. Thank for lending your talent to voice Green. You really scare me when Green lost her temper when talking about Blue. That raw emotion was great.

hiddenlightinggenin thank you very much :-D

KinamOfMyth; I was kind of thinking the same thing. I also think she made an excellent point about certain knowledge being wired into our brains like eating.

long post incoming Tl;dr(not meant to be people, but a voice to the ideal, also interview for the sake of understanding all color views) I think the main issue isn't the why, it's the how. While green accepts death like black and acknowledges the way the world works like blue, she takes issue with separating oneself from systems. Black sees the survival of the fittest, but ignores symbiosis, and natural end, and would rather take, essentially separating himself from the world in attempts to never be the prey, be the top of the food chain, forever, and (in green's view selfishly ignore his body telling him to stop living due to decaying cells and aging body) stay alive forever. in green's world all things die and are reborn, in black's all things kill eachother to avoid death. she also appreciates blue's desire to seek knowledge, to understand the world, but takes offense at his need to control it. green would solve a problem by becoming stronger herself, helping the world by giving the "problem" it's own challenge to overcome in exchange, to adapt, to accept the world as a whole becoming stronger on its own terms. blue would make his life easier by changing the world around him rather than himself, to stifle the problem, keep the world down, to manipulate, to reject the world in favor of his own, never face a problem again, tell the world how to be stronger rather than let it grow. a green world knows itself in and out and exists and changes on its own, a blue world has a master that knows all and changes it on command. it comes down to a few things, order/freedom, self/community, and destiny/control remember these are a personification of the colors rather than mere people, metaphors. when "green" is talking about "blue" and "black" it isn't applying to one person. and B. these are differing ideals, of course there is some discussion to be had, this is merely a diplomatic and neutral way to present each colors case

Silverslipstream; Yes, I completely understand the personification of all creature represented by that color, aswell as the concept of each color being an extreme example of its ideals. Green is actually my favorite. What I'm attempting to get across is that regardless of wich one we agree with most, none are perfect and none are completely wrong either. I just love the deep discussion we're able to have about essentially a simple passtime^^ All that said and somewhat off topic, I'm curious on what you think about Green/Blue/Black working together. I main Green/White/Black myself so I like seeing opposites mix to create something that works.

KinamOfMyth Sorry, the video had me thinking so deep i forgot about the card game. I apologize if my statements made it sound like i was pro-green to the point of antagonism, I get they are all flawed, and it definitely makes it better that way, these videos are really well made, addressing the misinformation and making things concise rather than promoting an agenda and asking people to take a stance. again long post ahead hmm, b/u/g is very interesting, (its my favorite game mechanic wise) it evokes the thought of "black" using a "blue" way of controlling natural systems (green) in sultai those on top are manipulative and vicious, they lie cheat and kill eachother to maintain control, but they do so to maintain the sultai brood, everybody wants to be in charge but nobody wants to abandon the system. their leader must be strong, vicious, willing to do anything to survive, otherwise their collective would suffer. on the bottom, though, the average joe is next to worthless, unless he can prove himself to be better than the undead thrall (or sibsig) they could make out of him. It encourages the strengths of green, but executed in a blue/black way. their mechanic, delve (less so exploit as that is silumgar's influence devoid of green) manipulates the death cycle, what black and blue consider unnecessary is cut out of your graveyard, and the rest reoccurs in a very green black way, making sure survival of the fittest is applied after death and undeath as well. gwb is pretty cool too, (i know i keep going back to khans, but that really was the best showing of enemy pairs) the abzhan green and black acknowledge the bleak harshness of the world and fight to survive, but do so together as a khan. black and white's necromancy is more spirit based, learning from the dead rather than controlling them. they only care for their own needs, fight to survive, and maintain the greater good of their ancestry, which is a very black way of viewing a green white community. outlast as an ability only makes a single creature stronger, but many creatures have effects that apply to anything with a +1/+1 counter, or replace a dead creature with a spirit. meaning when one becomes stronger, they all do, and when they die, they are never really gone, but if you aren't abzhan screw you.

Silverslipstream; No problem, I just wanted to make sure what I was trying to say was clear. ^^ I think I understand. So similar to Simic's method of having blue manipulate green's ability, Sultai's black combines that with trickery and necromancy. And yes, I love how Bolster buffs the weakest creature on your side of the field, implying that when they fight together, they make sure everyone is just as strong as eachother, a very white way of thinking. It's similar to the Six Samurai in Duel Monsters where they can't use their special abilities unless they have one of their allies with them, and have several ways of special summoning to do so. Learning from their ancestors is also an aspect I love. Defense, unity, and wisdom. Abzan in a nutshell. (No offense to Josh, but I feel the themesong picked for them could've been better)

Well, isn't Blue responsible for creatures like the Slivers, who are an active threat to all life? I can see that pissing her off too

What do splinters have to do with anything?

Slivers are a race of artificially made creatures in MtG that threatened to kill everything, imagine snakes with arms that are stupidly hard to kill, breed explosively and have a hive like social structure.

So, mecha-nagas? That...actually sounds kinda cool. Besides, Blue seems to be more the element that harnesses the aspect of humanity referring to both his ability to create and to adapt. That being the case, he'd be prone to experimentation, and dabbling in things that may (or may not in this case) fully understand the consequences for. Besides, I stand by my main point: That being that Blue managed to outsmart the nature that Green treasures so much, hence the enemy list. Though, it's kinda ironic that she hates Blue of all people, since Blue is water; a main building block of nature.

I think that's where the color pairs come in to play, no one color means only one thing, some even overlap. blue also has footholds in freedom and instability, with many air/water based creatures. It's that freedom that gives blue the kind of splendor, to be free from the harshness of nature, to be above other creatures mentally or magically, a lot of blue "monsters" would be "green" nature wise, like whales, krakens, birds, drakes, elementals. Kind of funny how much of a paradox blue is, most of its magic is all about control, the thinkers and mages seek to know and control, but blue as an element, its 'monsters', and races, like fairies and merfolk, constantly act freely and evade understanding.

Hippes suck in any dimension.

Red: for the lolz and fireBlue: patience

Not always a hippie; apply Green's emphasis on status quo and past experiences (both based, like instincts in a species, on what worked before) to society, and you have conservatives.

Red: BURN EVERYTHING TO GROUND!!!

Lind the Chaotic Heretic Oh look, another reason why my Black/White Vampire deck kicks ass.

I really hope that Omahdon voice Blue

There's already a video where Josh mentioned who's voicing whom.

where could one find this video you speak of?

@KingCreeps Amen!

Rakdos for life. We have *metal death clowns*

@@Mister-Thirteen Keep your clowns, Cobble roach! WE ARE GRUUL!

Also, There was a reference to the Gruul in this video. We see red burning a tree. As in, the Burning-Tree Clan, the largest of them all, and their symbol is the symbol of the Gruul clans as a whole.

I once entertained the idea of a fan Green/Colorless faction that opposes the Guilds of Ranvica that embraces that same idea and its' ability focus on boosting the effects of equipment. After all, how is building a house, using a tool, ect. any different than a bird Building a nest. In fact, I would love to see a Color/Colorless faction in MTG.

I can understand where you're coming from. However, I disagree with where you went with it. Yes, a higher awareness and intellect is a natural adaptation humans developed for survival. And Green agrees with that. Other species like wolves and dolphins also developed a higher intellect and applied that to more complex and advanced hunting patterns. Other creatures will build structures for protection from the elements and use stones as tools to access food. Where humans strayed from Green is that we take more than what we need. We adversely effect nature in a way that upsets the balance. We destroy swaths of forest to grow food where it naturally wouldn't be. We demolish the landscape to harvest ores and metals to create unnatural modes of transportation. We take more than our share and manipulate our surroundings without regard for the environment. Standard Black/Blue. What Green proposes is living in harmony with nature rather than trying to dominate it. To fill our role as either predator or prey without upsetting the balance. The strong survive. And thus the cycle continues.

Blue Green is obviously best ideology

Not really a problem with Green's ideology. Green is appealing to a loosely defined standard of being 'natural', not suggesting that everything that emerges from nature or natural instincts is desirable or ideal. See a lot of people getting this wrong Green simply thinks that if you "play by nature's rules" and don't try to outsmart nature, your instincts will reward yourself and the collective whole. It thinks that something being dominant in a way that nature can adapt to is good, and that something being dominant in a way that it can't adequately adapt to and in a way that's detrimental to the greater system is bad

I just noticed this... Nice!

Eh,you're right....Based on this,I think Maxson might be white/green

"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should"

That might explain the lack of interviews

There's a reason all the most expensive dual lands are blue black

So basicly Selesnya

this series is over lol

still over

I believe Green is "saying" that the answer is to let things happen as they are and let it continue to be. Which is like a brainwashed stoicism. It's not just horribly naive, but extremely dangerous when left unchecked. This "kid" would let a wildfire rage because to act on it would be hypocritical to her beliefs. Black was right. Nature left unchecked is full of suffering.

James Collette but that is also according to very human, or "blue" values. we fear the wildfire because it will destabilize us, take our home, our things, our control, our lives. did you know that most wildlife preserves actually let wildfires go to an extent if they were caused by lightning storms, because putting them out leaves half dead trees and too much water? obviously if it gets close to human boundaries they curb it, but they dont have to fight harder, because "nature" has a plan, in this case, the fire was started because of a storm, which is also causing rain, sputtering the fire and keeping it under control, sure animals and plants might die, but taking inspiration of Blacks philosophy, they weren't fast or hardy enough to survive. fire also creates ash, which is amazing fertilizer (unsuprisingly, dead animal and plant cells in powder form for the earth to reclaim) Only when some human using fire they created using technology (loosly, for Green, rubbing two sticks together to ignite is considered unnatural, "those branches grew to avoid that very thing in life, because they have evolved not to catch themselves on fire"), on a bright sunny day or cloudless night, and it gets left alone (Smokey the bear style) does it threaten the ecosystem, because there is no warning lightning storm for creatures to hide or run, no rain to save the trees, just human consequence tearing an ecosystem asunder.

And that's the folly of Green. It thinks nature is all about balance. But the SECOND someone is actually good at the very thing nature is ACTUALLY about: Survival of the fittest, that balance comes crashing down. The strongest predator gets the spoils. Human ingenuity has made us the strongest predator and now Green is whining because she's not the top of the food chain. But rather than raising herSELF up so that she can compete with us, she petulantly sulks and whines that we should lower ourselves to HER level.

The answer is "play threats on curve."

"Only when some human using fire they created using technology (loosly, for Green, rubbing two sticks together to ignite is considered unnatural, "those branches grew to avoid that very thing in life, because they have evolved not to catch themselves on fire"), on a bright sunny day or cloudless night, and it gets left alone (Smokey the bear style) does it threaten the ecosystem, because there is no warning lightning storm for creatures to hide or run, no rain to save the trees, just human consequence tearing an ecosystem asunder." @Silverslipstream - So an earthquake or volcano is considered natural and and there is nothing we should about that. Great survival instinct, bud. (/Sarcasm) It should be noted that the things Green has a problem with when it comes to Blue, Blue actually can solve (or is at least attempting to.) Pollution - finding cleaner energy sources. Creating Diseases - finding the cures to the damage being caused Cities destroying forests - Creating cohabitation areas for wildlife and limiting where expansions occur. Much of what Green is griping about is being solved. Let's see her act as quickly and responsibly. By my count, Blue is being far more responsible while Green simply whines.

thewizardtim agreed

Yes

Black already had a video.

Mr.13 Which is quite ironic, given how slave morality is based on resentment, and Green's goal of acceptance implies lack of resentment (it is never a predator's fault to follow their instincts, so there is no point on taking it personally). That is how it seems.

True but slave morality is also partially an act of mimicry; mimicking the linguistic trick that creates a Master Morality via statements such as "It good to be king" in order to make the weak value their weakness. Green's acceptance of Slave morality is due to it being utterly complacent with the application of it and so is unable to come to terms either logically or emotionally with the idea that the very notion of passive acceptance is born of those that benefit from your acceptance of your role. The one connection green will never admit to is the one between its ideal and role those ideals play in being made a salve to those who hold master morality. Green makes itself subservient to the surrounding ecology & calls this prison "enlightenment".

I know this might be thread Necromancy, but hey....Black. One thing I thinks is telling about Green's philosophy is that she assumes both her position "Wisdom" and those she observes "ignorance". She assumes all the colors are trying to change the world, but black seeks only to maximize survival in it & Red merely reacts to it. She asserts a selective naturalistic fallacy when defending her view but than quickly forgets it when haphazardly classifying her opposition. Green's slave morality is manifest in her ability to engage in sophistry when her faith is challenged; a trait she shares with white.

The Planeswalkers haven't shown up thus far, I don't think they will. But there is always the books for that juicy lore.

blue

Red MUST get "the last joke", cause FIRE is the element of the executive producer. Blue is next.

I think that the Wedges is less 3 colors working together and more a color acting as a check to it’s enemies. In the case of Sultai, Green attempts to ground Blue and Black and keep them from becoming too unnatural.

If you really want to know, Mark Rosewater did write the interviews for each wedge. These interviews with the individual colors were also written by him. You can look up each wedge's interview and see what happened in each one.

anthony cannet if you want to be a voice actor go for it. While your voice may not be suitable for some projects it might be perfect for something else that a voice like mine (voice of Green) would sound unnatural for.

Likewise is man not but simply doing as 'Nature' made of us to do so in turn? That we were by nature that we might conquer it and in time grow far greater alongside it. We are simply in seeker to become greater doing as we were made to do, eh Blue? ^-^

MTG Storage y so many links

shilyarr mee they were on accident sorry

I most definitely align red but I prefer playing whatever strategies I find functional and fun, so playing to your alignment may not be all too common... though I do play a lot of grixis

spencer coello Yeah. I find that there's a lot a joy in making a kinds of different decks and see how they work, yet making a deck that both fits alignment and is devestating feels far more satisfying.

I play Black because the strat and philosophy best suits me. My preferred Deck is Rakdos though I also enjoy Mardu now and again....Even if playing white makes me want to take a shower afterwards.

I am a red mostly cause well i like making my deck fast and able to control the battle field which is why i have a izzit deck there more me cause the spells they have give me exactly what i need to control the battle feild

im a black blue person myself

shinraset they might continue...

@@Cajek2 here's hoping but with the what feels like multi-year delays between it can be a bit hard to keep the spirits strong.

Mitja Kocjancic Could you please elaborate?

It's a fact that we're parts of a massive, intricate machine, but this idea that we ought to just accept some nebulous role is ridiculous. I'm the kind of person who carves out my own role and fights for it.

sagely Demonologist Red's "element" is water, and his philosophy is focused on the acquisition of knowledge.

genius11433 * blue But I see your point.

All of the colors are extremely complex ideals. Blue is logic, reasoning and induction. Blue is also water and wind the ocean and the sky. Blue is technology and Arcana. Blue is perfection through knowledge. At its core Blue has all kinds of tools at its beck and call. Telepathy, Telekinesis, Artifice, Arcana, Illusion, Temporal manipulation, Hydromancy, Areomancy, Cyrokinesis, Shape-shifting etc... And that's before we mix blue with other colors.

By the way. Red and Blue both have artifice elements to them. Blue is the mechanical genesis who's mind works like a computer to solve the problem. img.scryfall.com/cards/normal/en/vma/82.jpg?1517813031 Red is the inspired inventor who creates new solutions to the problem. img.scryfall.com/cards/normal/en/c14/35.jpg?1517813031

Mr.13 At no point did I mention complexity, or lack thereof for that matter. I brought up the obvious connection of the core aesthetic of both colors (red being chaotic and blue preferring logic and reason) to a base element, of which only red fit their associated element (chaos with fire) while blue simply didn't (lucidity and technological innovation aren't usually tied to water, ice, or wind, the immediate connective elements of blue; that's more connected to earth, metal, or lightning when those are used). You've taken the conversation on a completely different tangent.

Gamemaster Anthony natrulist

Communist?

-Vegan?- Hippie?

Naturalist, I think. Green likely isn't vegan. She understands the roles of predator and prey, and producers and primary consumers. Definitely an omnivore. Probably would always pick organic and non-GMO though.

I hope so to, I just found these today and I really wanna see the others

Whitefire Atlas Two others are already published, and two more are left.

genius11433 Nice !

After video: ……… I legitimately do not like her, albeit, I like her a bit more than White, but then again, I LOATHE White and her philosophy.

Snowmon89 Oh. Why do you hate White so?

The same reason as why I dislike Green. "I am right and I cannot possibly be wrong. You just *know* what is right so why not just do it. But if your idea of right and wrong aren't the same as mine, then you're EVIL!!!!" I hate dealing with people who believe that they're so right that they have no need to know WHY past "It just is" or "because I said so." I grew up in an environment like that. It's crazy to me now, especially when I got out into the real world and realized that the world isn't quite so black and white as that. There is a lot of grey area and sometimes there is no "right" answer, others there's multiple "right" answers. For example, I've been given quite a number of gifts from a certain relative of mine. Everything was fine, until I decided to refuse these gifts. Despite I said, "no thank you", she began shoving these gifts down my throat. Even essentially called me "wrong", sometimes even downright "evil" for refusing her kindness. It really screwed me up for quite a while, Despite I did my best to be as polite as possible to this relative, my own family still thinks that I'm a horrible person thanks to her sick twisted idea of "kindness". That's how I view White. I despise the very concept of "it's for "your own good" or the "greater good". People have DIED over the tyranny and masks of that mindset about kindness. At least Green understands the concept of "Balance". That's probably the only reason I like her more than White. She knows that Black has a purpose in the world, even if her idea of "keep it natural" is a bit far too "religious" in nature…… um… no pun intended. I also do sympathize with her views on Blue, though. Even Black and White acknowledged that he tends to take things a bit too far as well. (Sorry it took so long to reply. I don't get notifications.)

@@Snowmon89 I mostly agree 👍

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Destiny is something I disagree with.

Same VA :-)

bnerd1 they release them super slow