We are currently using these throughout a 500 year old cottage that can’t have the wall touch. Such a great idea. Still find it funny my old man is a old time spark and still doesn’t get it hahah
Can you demo how you would use this quinetic switch in an existing 2 way switch arrangement (adding a third switch) with a diagram to make it clear. Lee below had to do something similar but i would like to see one of your videos showing this.
Love these - already got four applications for quinetic switches in my house: 1) Two way dimmer switch so that I can dim lights in a room with a door at each end (standard two way only lets you have one dimmer). 2) Added a "wall lighting circuit" in lounge so that I can turn on either ceiling or table lamps from switch by door. 3) Added switch outside bathroom as redesign left pull switch dangling behind heated towel rail. 4) the standard one where you need a switch in a different place due to a room rearrangement.
A rather sensible R&D from the previous inventions...👍👍 A quick question, is it possible for a single remote switch be paired to more than one receiver base unit i.e one(1) master Remote Switch controlling two(2) Receiver base unit simultaneously??🤔
Hi, Very nice Can you please share the name/place where I can buy this? I looked it to it and found few but are not same like the one you presented. Need the one exactly like yours. Thank you for your guidance.
Hey guys, I love these switches and use them regularly. Unfortunately, I did discover a limitation. I needed to create an intermediate position on a lighting circuit that shared a back box with another lighting circuit (seperate two way switching for upstairs and downstairs hall lights). The existing wiring was three plate, and the two (and three) gang receiver switches 'common' the line internally (L in, L1, L2, L3 out). In order to get the intermediate and two sets of two way to work, I had to send the downstairs switched line back up to my receiver switch position using a core of the original strapper cable with two gang wireless switch over the existing downstairs switch point. This meant the downstairs light was now being supplied by the upstairs circuit line. So at this point I have created a situation, A shared switched line crossing to another circuits Neutral. The only way I could correct this was to combine bot circuits before the OCPD.
Thanks for the feedback Lee - and the great solution to a real life problem - We bet a bit of head scratching went on when you discovered the challenge!
I love the Quinetic range. I have installed the versions with the controllers that go next to the light fitting. I now have a client that wants his two way circuit made into three way, how is that achieved? Do we install the switch with the controller in the first point then cable out the other switch and add two Qinetic switches?
Can this switch be used if you want a third switch. I have one switch at the bottom and one at the top of the stairs but want another switch next to the bedroom door.
The only hard task is convincing the customer to accept that some of the switches in their home (the ones with the receiver) have to be those bizarre square paddles that don't match with the rest of their standard grid switches? Wouldn't it be also great if they made sender units (in addition to receiver units), so you could send switching signals from other "analog" devices - for example pair timers/programmers with quinetic receivers in shops, schools and offices and allow for scheduling of the on/off times but also provide manual control from light switches for tasks performed during off times or days off etc. And I'd also like to be able to pair one switch with multiple quinetic grids simultaneously (one master switch for the entire floor/building in addition to the usual number separate switches)
You can’t have a kinetically powered sender unit via a conventional switch and a sender unit. You could have one that battery or mains powered, but that’s not what kinetic switches are, so not their USP.
Like the look of these Quinetic switches but i have a double switch socket in the downstairs hallway that operates the downstairs with one switch and the upstairs with the other switch. But upstairs there's a single rocker switch that only operates the upstairs light. Would it be possible to install a Quinetic switch upstairs that would operate both the upstairs light and the downstairs light and one downstairs that would operate the downstairs light and the upstairs light. Not to switch both on at the same time though.
Love the video. Great presentation. Can you get similar with built in receiver for thin light switch built into door frame? Or could you use the two cables to the light switch to wire to receiver and then blanking plate over (I don't actually need that light switch)? Advice would be welcome.
I would like to use one of these switches and connect it to two receivers? Use case is an indoor switch to switch on outdoor lights together, some on the outside of the garage, and some on the outside of the house. I know you can have multiple switches to one receiver, but can you have one receiver to multiple switches? Couldn't find anything on their web site about it.
Hi there, Love your videos Can you please post a video with 2way 2gang quinetic switch? I love the idea, I want to use it however I have with my current 2 way 2gang switch a web of cables going in it
Hey Gary, have you come across a gadget called Walabot in wall imager, seems it's only reliable for dry wall though and not so good for concrete and plaster.
Hi, I have 2x2ways switches and I want to replace only one of them with a wireless one. So I'd keep the switch upstairs as it stands while replacing the one downstairs. Would this be possible?
Brilliant I have a 3 gang switch which feeds to 2 ceiling lights and under cabinet lights. How can I use this to make 1 ceiling light a two way so I can light the room up when I enter via the rear door?
Brilliant concept which I would like to employ. I have a 3 gang switch on a 2 plate configuration. This switch serves 2 ceiling and under cupboard lights. I would like to set up this type so that we can enter the house via the rear and use the fob to turn the kitchen light on as we get near the door. The switch as you can imagine is crammed with cable any suggestions.
Hi Guys, How do I convert my bedroom into a hotel-style light system. At the moment, I have a light switch that turns the main bedroom light on and 2 bedside lamps are plugged into the mains. I want a 2 gang light switch (one for the main light and the other for the bedside lamps). I also want an individual switch for each bedside lamp near them.
Why does this refuse to work with a 5ft fluorescent tube? I then changed it for a led tube and no joy but I guess this may be down to the light fitting. Works fine when tested with a corn led bulb!
I’ve got a customer that wants to use a quinetic switch to operate garden lights from his shed offfice, but he also wants to be able to switch them with his existing ‘old fashioned’ switch in his kitchen.. does anyone know if this is possible? Tried contacting quinetic directly but no joy.
You’d probably have to replace the old switch with a quinetic one also - otherwise the old switch would disconnect the power to the receiver or face trek from the office to switch on the old switch.
@@efixx thanks for helping! Would that still be the case if the existing switch was wired to the load side of the receiver or directly into the first light fitting along with load from the quinetic switch. It would be powered from a separate source.
@@craigpatterson4269 it must need to store the energy, I struggle to believe one operation of a switch can generate enough electricity to send that signal. Unless it's got a really long throw maybe.
They ain’t cheap though - 39 quid each in tlc so minimum of nearly 80 to make a two way work. Still cheaper than hardwiring labour though .Anyone seen them at a better price ?
This switch will reduce work electricians have, as diyers will start using them. Just look at push fit plumbers pipe to see that which can happen when you remove skill and knowledge from a job.
What happens when the switch is already 2 way and you're adding this as a third switch? Or the switch is a 2 or 3 gang switch or even a 2 or 3 gang 2 way switch?
If you have 2 way switching already you can introduce this switch (Kinetic) at position one and disconnect the 3 core to the other 2 way switch then at position 2 introduce a kinetic switch. You then can add more kinetic switches as you like to this switching arrangement.
Lol if you think this is magical, wait till you hear about smart switches. No limitations. Lights not only control by switches but multiple methods. You don’t even need to be at home to turn your lights on or off.
Biggest drawback with these switches is they are damm ugly and don't match any other switches in the house, if they made them to look like a normal switch, then they would be much better. They do solve a few problem in certain situations , but hard wired is much better any day.
Is this not theoretically the beginning of the end how can any sparks like this yes it is amazing you can do it but come on! In 20 years we will be put out of a job
@@maddog-na3685 The old fashioned way never kept a DIYer on a budget away from adding and changing things in their house, at least this is so simple they won't set their house on fire. Products like this can make the difference between somebody actually hiring an electrician for half an hour to add a switch without any worries, and them rather not bothering with it because of all the labour and damage that comes with adding wiring and backboxes. The electrician who can deliver this time has one foot in the door the next time that customer needs more electrical work done to their house, plus there's the free advertisement of somebody telling their friends and family how you managed to install a few extra switches in limited time without any damage or mess.
@@maddog-na3685 That attitude will put yourself out of a job. I suppose you don't use a cellphone, 4/5G, Wi-Fi, a remote for the TV or the garage door, wireless telephone, radio...? Just shouting "wired is better" isn't being "sceptical", it's being stubborn and being ignorant by choice, which is another word starting with stu...
Quite a useful bit of kit. Presentation would have been better without the time wasting buffoonery and over-acting. Would have been better too with out an apparently clueless assistant. Despite all the unnecessary chat, these guys did not say what sort of battery the device uses and what the expected battery life is. They also did not say what the range is. It would have been good to know if it copes with a long corridor.
totally agree - to me it was originally not clear what there were actually trying to achieve - if they had said they are simply replacing a hard-wired switch with one with a built-in wireless switch and then adding an additional wireless switch it would have saved me thinking what the hell are they talking about ...
