Someone may have already suggested this, so forgive me if so. Rather than writing these mags off and making a declarative statement that some folks might take for gospel why not go to Magpul and work with them to resolve the issue? This is what helps make the industry get better. Just a thought. Great respect for you and your service.
Lyle, I appreciate the input. I called Magpul, and they stated that they have seen it before in certain instances and attributed it to tolerance stacking. They advised I should file down one corner of the magazine body and then bend the slide lock tab on my gun. They were nice about it and offered to replace the magazines if the DIY mods didn't work. That said, I still won't have confidence in them enough to carry them and it appears the entire body is probably due for a redesign.
@@lylecaudill1446 I'm not going to complain, brother. I had a mag that would drop free from Glock once out of the box (deformed polymer) and Glock told me "we don't state anywhere that our mags will absolutely drop free" and refused to do anything at all 🙄😂 But yeah, I'm not real pumped to trust my life to some home filed magazines.
I, too, called them about these mags. I bought them after seeing a similar vid about these mags not working with gen 5 g26 models. So, I knew what I was getting into. They're fine for range practice, if you're shooting slow. However, the very first double-tap drill I ran, failure to feed/slide locked back with 10 rounds left in the mag. I contacted Magpul and they replaced the mag, but the same issue happened again. At this point its a definite design flaw for gen 5's. I believe it's due to the dual slide release interfering with the magazine? Anyway, I told the rep at magpul that it should Really be redesigned because I LOVE the mags themselves, just wish they would work reliably for self defense situations
I have a Gen 5 and Gen 4, in the Gen 4 they work just fine with no issues with 250 rounds in so far, however the Gen 5 locks open about every 4-5 rounds. I would tend to agree the ambi slide stop has a great influence on the function of this mag. Hope there is a redesign in the near future as I really like the Pmags.
I run a gen 3 26,and have had zero issue with any of my 12 round PMAGS.Personally like the gen three better than the newer ones,and my agency allows us to run the third gen Glock’s if we so desire although they issue the gen 5 now.The ambi slide release is undoubtedly the reason for the problems some have had with the 12 Rd PMAGS,but for me-a couple thousand rounds through my carry weapon and no probs.For what it’s worth...
**The issue I have may be specific to the Gen 5 model. As you know, the slide release on this model is ambidextrous and designed slightly differently than earlier models. The spring for the slide catch and overall tension is also different than earlier models. It seems some people are getting these to work on earlier models without issue, but my Gen 5 hates. these.mags.
I run those in my gen 3 27 converted to a 9 mm. They run great not a failure at all. Call magpul they will help you and it helps them fix an issue they may not know of.
I was actually going to suggest something specific to the Gen 5. I have a Gen 3 and have run over 2,000 rounds through 3 Pmags and have zero FTF or FTEs. It's my go to carry mag. I also clean the mags every 500 rounds so maybe that has helped, but I'm 100% satisfied with the Pmags. Just my experience.
I've yet to have any of these complaints occur. I do have an oem 12 rounder ordered. I picked up the p-mag because it was readily available. it is all plastic, and "cheap" feeling, but it works so far. my G26 is a gen 3.
I have a Gen 5 26 with the front serrations and haven’t had the same issues with the 12 round Magpul mags. I’ve put 1,000 rounds through them and haven’t had any feeding issues. I’ve had the slide not lock to the rear a few times with cheap ammo and the 12 round PMag, but that’s it. I used the Magpul 15, 17, and 21 rounders with the 26.5 and had zero issues.
I have a gen5 26 and never had a problem with the pmag 12 mags. Been shooting them in my pistol for about 2 years. I carry them and put several thousand rounds through them with 0 failures. Thinkin magpul may have had a bad batch.
I have over a dozen of these and had them for years now. I've fired literally thousands of rounds through my g26 using these. I've never experienced a single one of these problems.
Thank you for your analysis of the PMAGs with the Gen 5 Glocks. I have been buying only factory Mags even though I know they are more expensive than some of the aftermarket stuff.
Factory Glock 12 rounds? Where you get them? (Don't misunderstand me) I was looking for them but I can't find them. If you have the link please send it to me. Thank you.
I own a glock 26. I shoot my g26 just like my glock 19. So I'm going ask some questions. But before that I have some things to get out of the way: I personally never understood why anyone needs that extra pinky extension unless it was a drawer gun, and maybe if you wore a hoodie/winter coat. Range day I like having extra mags regardless of quality. If anything I like garbage quality mags because that means I get reps in. So I use pmags, clear plastic mags, and some extended mags. But for serious defensive use I stick with oem. Drawing the gun I can also see the use of at least the pinky extension, but I never understood the whole "better control of the gun" argument. I get the same groupings if not better with my g26 as my g19 without any extended baseplates or mag sleeves, just the base 10 round mags. Now for those questions.. The whole point of the gun is that it's easier to conceal. So why get a +2 extension and make the gun print more? At the rate you're going, I think you should use a glock 19 mag. It gets a whole +5 rounds. And if you're using a g19 mag and destroying the concealability, then why not just use a glock 19? If you're using a +2 extension, you're basically just running a regular compact handgun. If you want that "extra 'control' of the gun that the pinky extension gives you" then just run a glock 19.
I’m guessing here but I’d say he dies it because the plus two does not print nearly as much as a 19 mag and still gives you a couple extra rounds while still being extremely concealable.
Good video and thanks for sharing some important info. I prefer the unmodified 10 round Glock magazines because, for concealment purposes, the butt of the gun doesn't stick out so much. I do use original G17 magazines as my spares, and I have never had any problems using them in my G26. After watching this, I checked out my (Glock) magazines, and sure enough there was virtually no wiggle room for the bullets. If I buy off brand replacement magazines, I will be aware of how snug the ammo fits. Well done.
Glad that I caught this video. I had a Glock 26gen4 and had bought two of the g12 Magpul magazines and they worked good in it, disclaimer here, I didn't shoot many rounds through them and never carried the 26 with them in it. I ended up trading the gen4 and regretted it shortly afterwards. I just picked up a gen5 26 ,so thanks for the heads up. I'll just get the plus two extensions. 👍👍
Just took my three Magpul 12s for my Glock 26 Gen 4 to the range based on your information. Ran 100-rounds without any issues. I'll use these for a while just for range practice and stick with my Glock factory extensions for carry. Thanks for your videos. I also agree with Lyle's suggestion below.
Another RU-vidr, "NerdGoneSouth," did a video back in March of 2018 where he shot 100 rounds through his Gen 5 Glock 26 using the Magpul GL9 12 magazines. He also had a couple of slide lock backs during his testing. Apparently there really is a problem with these mags in a Gen 5 Glock 26. I believe these Magpul magazines came out before the Gen 5 26 models were released. Link here to video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EazpvYsM3BA.html
Thats a shame. I've had great luck with my 15 and 17 round pmags. Not one issue and i have thousand of rounds through them. That said I only use them for training and range use. Thanks for the info.
Great vid about your magpul issue. I noticed the same wobble with any extended mag I used so a friend offered a solution and it seemed to work, I pick up a grip frame insert from pierce grips, it fills the space or cavity in the heel of the grip body allowing a more snug fit. Might help.
Thanks for the review Jay, and heads up of course. My experience is that I decided to Frankenstein my 19 into a 45 and ended up getting a PMAG 17 for only about 15 bucks. I suppose, largely based on them working perfectly in my AR. So while I should have done my homework before purchasing, I then realized some of the early PMAG 17's were problematic. Did more research, and checked the lot number that specified the manufacturer date, and apparently mine were okay....supposedly. BUT, to your point re: detrimental consequences when one really doesn't need them, I've since gotten a Glock 17 factory mag carry purposes. Ironically, haven't had any problems whatsoever with the PMAG 17.....eats up 115, 124, and 147 Gr. just fine, never a hiccup. It will, however, remain a range mag. Thanks again.....look forward to your next videos. We appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experiences.
Never had any issues with my Glocks feeding ETS or Magpul mags. The only issues I've ever had were related to KCI or Promag magazines. But these Magpul mags have run for me zero problems.
Jay just keep them and contact magpul , couple years ago they had issues with followers and they fix it . Sent me all new mags . I am running these in my gen 5 26 with just adding a washer ( took the sloppy feel out , but run just fine in my gen 3 ) plus just using as extra range mags . K
See the pinned post. I contacted them and they offered to replace the mags and so e DIY mods to try and fix the issue. That said, I won't be keeping them for defensive use or anything like that due to diminished confidence in the product. The fact that they stated they have seen the issue before is enough to give me pause considering this type of malfunction could be life or death in a gunfight.
J Helmsing absolutely understand but I’ve never used as self defense only range use anyways . Glad you took the time to follow up . Crazy though , trusted company no quality control , I have not repurchased .
I have one of these for a gen 4 26. I had a few falures to return to battery early on. I think the springs are very stiff and they slowed down the slide velocity from increased pressure. I cycled the spring a bunch with a mag loader and I havent had any problems since. Never any problems associated with slide lock.
Good to go with my Gen 4 G26. I use them as my training Mags and they have gone hundreds of rounds without malfunction. I added two washers to the Mag to stop the wiggle and pinch.
Tried one bullet in mags and notice how much I could move nose of bullet side to side. Magpul a lot of wiggle. Glock and SW MP none. Push bullet forward 1/4” still no wiggle Glock and SW. Lots in PMAG. No issues in my Glock Gen 4 26 as far as functioning.
I've only had that problem using p17 in my g26 gen5, and really wrench gripping on the mag. You are correct though, it does cause nosedives while feeding.
I've had no issues with the 2 I have for my G26 gen 4. I always run brass or Speer 147. My pmags 15,17 and 27 I have for my other Glock's run fine unless you run steel case in them. The steel damaged a couple of them out of the first ones I had. Sad they won't run in the Gen 5 26.
I haven't had a single issue with 12,15, 17, or 27 round pmags in any of my glocks, gen 3 and 4 Glock 26's. gen 3 and 4 Glock 19's, gen 3 and 4 Glock 17's. I just haven't had any problems and I shoot the heck out of all six pistols as I shoot a lot with my four kids at our back forty outdoor range. Is this a Gen 5 type problem? I am glad you had the sense to test and understand your equipment to mitigate any issues. We can all learn from that.
I’ve had same problems with them trying to feed 2 rounds in at once I guess a double feed anyway I’m not a fan of any PMAGS seems like the only people that like them are people who own them !
J Helmsing yes, AR15 PMAGS are the real deal as I have several with a combined thousands of rounds through them that work extremely well. Interesting nobody can make a Glock mag that’s as reliable a Glock mag, seems like somebody would have figured out a way to do this by now considering how long glock has been a popular pistol.
I also had a fail to feed with one of my PMAGS as well as an occasion where the slide did not lock back when the magazine was empty. I’ll try them again at the range next week, but I’m wary of them.
I boogered up the feed lips just loading the 12 round I tried out. At that point I was not impressed right off the bat. Plastic seemed very soft. Loaded at full capacity the feed lips seemed very weak. Mine ended up in the trash after one Range session
I’ve run thousands of rounds through my G26 Gen 4 with these magazines and have not had a single malfunction. My duty weapon (95 percent of the time) is the G26 unless I’m serving a search or arrest warrant, and I have used the Magpul Mags in the 26 for more than 2 years now. I actually prefer them over the factory Glock Magazines because they never have the rattle, which annoys the crap out of me. I am curious as to the cause of your malfunctions with the Gen 5?
Yikes, I have had great luck with mine. I have bunches of aftermarket mags. I only carry the OEM in in my G3 26 and G3 17. Looking to complete my family with a G3 19 or G5 19.
Seems like for ever 3 good reviews I see on these, I ll see a bad one. Thats enough for me to stick with factory mags. Glock mags are still cheaper than most.
I own a gen 5 g26 and three of these 12 rd pmags. No issues yet and it does get fired every sunday at my favorite range and I carry it in warmer weather. All of my factory 26 mags have OEM factory plus 2 baseplates on them and to be honest, the pmags wobble less than the factory ones. It may be a QC issue and I just got lucky.
Any update on this? It's my understanding that Magpul is constantly improving their product. I have 2 of the pmag 12's inbound to test out. Hoping they've addressed this w/ the Gen5 G26.
@@scottbryan803 (In various mags, 2 12rnd pmags, 2 10rnd Glock mags, a 15rnd 19mag, and 17rnd gen2 Glock mag) On my first outing w/ my Gen5 26 I shot 21 (full power) Federal HST 124 grn +p, No problems. 74 115grn speer lawman fmj(full power), no problems. 20 rnds 115 Blazer Brass (med. to low power) and had several failures. I think those were in the magpul mags. Not sure if it's partly because they are not metal lined and don't feed as cleanly? Second range visit I put the magpul mags aside and only use Glock mags. 200 rnds speer lawman, no problems. 50 rnds of the 115grn Blazer Brass, one failure on the last rnd of a well used 1992 gen2 glock mag. I hear that pinky pressure on mags that stick out can be a problem. Third range visit I did 100 more Speer Lawman in Glock mags, no problem. 50 Blazer Brass 115grn, my brother had 1 failure w/ the 17 rnd Gen2 mag. (pinky pressure?) Conclusions so far: I think w/ full power loads ( not soft loaded plinking range fodder) I'm good to go. I've only experienced failures w/ the softer Blazer Brass 115grn. And only in my old Gen2 17rnd mag I had w/ me and the magpul mags, but I'm not 100% certain. It seems to trend that way. So after a few more hundred full power Speer Lawman, I should try the magpuls again w/ speer lawman and then Blazer Brass to see what happens. It's now on my to-do list.
@@scottbryan803 Finally got out again today and no failures w/ the Blazer Brass 115 grn in my Magpul mags. It's important to note, that the main concern was about the slide locking back on mags before they were empty . I never had that problem w/ my magpul mags bought last yr. 10/2021. And after a few hundred rounds through my new G26.5 everything runs fine now w/ feeding from the Magpuls and the weaker ammo.
Thanks for the heads up, Ive always thought it is better to have two OEM glock mags than 4 all polymer aftermarket mags. I just dont like the idea of polymer feed lips. Hope you are planning on getting a Gen5 34 to review. Ive been thinking of getting one and would really like to hear your thoughts before tho lol
Regular AR15 PMAGs run fine. Polymer feed lips by themselves aren't the problem. I have 6 of these mags and they run perfectly in a Gen 3. Magpul needs a redesign for the Gen 5.
Alfredo Bodden these mags are made as 12 rounds and the baseplate is the same size as a standard Glock mag but the design is not the same as glocks... the come off easier but they don’t have the tabs on the side like Glock mags do.
Good info, thanks for sharing. Too bad your's didn't work well. I'm not a fan of torture testing guns or equipment but this mag was so inexpensive I went ahead and beat one up (video link below if interested). I left the mag loaded in my truck on a hot summer day then took it to the range and threw it, stomped on it and ran it over with my truck. I was surprised it held up so well and it's still running perfectly through about 400 rounds in my Gen 3. Torture Test Video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UAyilEF7GZA.html