Thank you very much, your feedback makes the effort of producing these videos worthwhile. If there's anything I have missed and that you would like to know, just ask.
Sorry but surely one of the main benefits that you mention in the dialogue but not in your summary of the benefits is the connection system of the X20 allowing the rear wheel to be dropped out easily if you get a puncture.
The AMC on the X20 system is certainly an attractive feature. I did think of putting it forward as a major benefit because of this superficial attractiveness. However, I got to thinking, in the last year I've only taken the wheel out three or four times. Although undoing and unplugging the x35 system when changing a wheel can be a bit of a chore, I haven't had to do it that often, and I wouldn't expect others to either. It was for that reason that I put it down as not being a great benefit. I do accept that others have different priorities to me and if it's seen as a benefit to them, who am I to argue?. Some may think the handlebar mounted button changes are a big benefit, others the straight pull spokes, others the reduction in weight ... I could go on. I'm not trying to make a decision for the viewer, just putting my views out there.
Interesting take, thanks. I have one of each and frankly can't tell much difference at all when RIDING 'em. In my case the larger battery spec'd with X20 kind of cancels it's lighter weight over X35. As to power delivery I wonder if the settings used made the difference? Both of mine are set to provide just 30% of the system power at assist level 1 and unless the climb is steep I ride both of 'em with assist at level 0 that is easily controlled by the Pulsar "brain" unit that works with both. I DO like the X20's simpler rear wheel setup and not having to have a big wrench in my saddlebag just-in-case, but that's a minor + IMHO.
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 > thanks, useful info. It's nice to know that I'm not too far off. Yes, the x35 set at 30% will be pretty much undetectable as an e-bike in normal uphill riding - that is until you turn the motor off 😲.
@@andrewlancefield3730 > I didn't notice any difference in the noise level between the two motors. The x20 bike did have chunkier knobbly tires which made a bit more noise, so maybe this drown out the motor noise a bit. However, compared to other motors that I've used, both of the Mahle ones are very quiet.
I managed a 10% grade, nothing much steeper where I did the test. On those grades I did not feel any great benefit, although I thought I could detect some, but not a lot. Do you have experience of both motors? In my experience, the hub motor is not so good for steep gradients because the motor cannot be geared down like a mid-motor. For that reason I would not recommend a hub motor for steep stuff.
@@FiveMinuteVelo How steep are you talking about? Rode my X35 bike up 12+% grade a few weeks ago with Level 1 assist at 30%, a climb that was tough for me even a decade ago with a triple crankset. I wonder what people expect, an e-moped or a bit of help going up when you need it?
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 > true, a person's expectations are important. I, like you, like to do most of the work, but with the motor assisting. However, in an emergency, due to my medical condition, I like to have the ability to crank up the power. Other people, with different medical conditions, for instance, heart conditions, may be advised to keep their heart rate down and they may need more assistance. Anyway, irrespective of that, the idea was to compare the two systems, I didn't want to make judgements on how people would use them. Sorry about the copious use of comas.
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 > My maximum climb during the test was about 10%. I did feel a bit of extra mid-range grunt on the motor, but not a lot. I accept that all certain grades, the difference may be more noticeable.
@@b.griffin317 > you are partly correct. Mahle seems to be numbering their products with lower numbers on the higher end (more expensive) products; it's not really about the date of release. For instance, the x30 system has just been released , which as you might expect, fits in between the x20 and the x35. I'll be publishing a video about riding the x20 and x35 systems later today. I'm currently working on an x30 video.
