MAJOR Exotic & Weapons CHANGES (Izanagi/Witherhoard NERFS) | Destiny 2 The Final Shape

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Today, we're taking a look at the most recent blog post from Bungie covering all of our weapon changes going into The Final Shape.
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0:00 Intro
0:25 Weapon Archetypes
10:35 Exotics
20:58 Perks
25:29 Outro
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@mrkat8137 16 дней назад

nerfing lament in a non sword meta is insane

@JGburneraccount 16 дней назад

"oh no lament is too good for crotas end...we better nerf it" meanwhile there's like 3 bosses in the game you can actually use swords on, it's like they just want us to use legendary swords instead.

@revolvingzyclon6901 16 дней назад

@@JGburneraccount I only use lament on Atraks and the Galhran echo in Duality tf bungie smoking XD

@Kipricoffical 16 дней назад

Lement is one of the 3 viable titan builds. Bungie hates titans. 😔

@Luke973T 16 дней назад

You played the final shape already? That's crazy

@ExpressoPie 16 дней назад

@@Luke973Tthey’d have to buff swords like hell in order for a sword meta to even be thought of for tfs

@terribletimes902 16 дней назад

Nerfing kinetics in PvE is wild

@subzero308 16 дней назад

So dumb they need a buff badly.

@legolokicars5820 16 дней назад

Honestly for me this is somewhat of a win. It means that all those stasis and strand special weapons i have patterns for will now possibly make me consider taking off my supremacy.

@zhizuizhizui4896 16 дней назад

I said the same god damn thing like they just want us to play the game like how they want to

@tristanwright9572 16 дней назад

It's only to bosses and it sounds like they have future plans for kinetics at some later time. It's a pretty small nerf and most people would never notice.

@animtok 16 дней назад

true, it's double edged sword of a change I mean it ofc good for strand and stasis thingies but it's also bad for some other options that were kinetic like warden's law and malfeasance is getting this -15% debuff(so it's also kinda lucky pants nerf), mountain top, Imperial decree with trench barrel, succession and kinda arbalest as backup damage option in GoTD and also touch of malice

@Xth3Z 16 дней назад

Next update: We've realized that weapons still kill enemies, so we've set the damage output to 0 across the board.

@blacksongoku312 16 дней назад

Lmao 🤣

@mazinhussein4297 15 дней назад

*and buffed common rarity weapons and armor because they were too weak

@Another_Zephyr 16 дней назад

bungie really looked at helldivers and said "Man, look at how happy that community is with nerfs"

@corneliusblackwood9014 16 дней назад

I quit playing when they nerfed the bolt action, I played solo 9’s mostly and it totally screwed me. Came back to Destiny after 2 years, just wish I had some people to play with, Helldivers is fun solo, Destiny not so much.

@1ntothefray583 16 дней назад

Literally more buffs than nerfs here. Yall boohooing too much lol.

@Ghostwithalisp 16 дней назад

@@1ntothefray583 its the fact that those nerfs weren't needed Mr.Airhead

@kingz8075 16 дней назад

@@1ntothefray583that isn't how you look at the overall game

@1ntothefray583 16 дней назад

@@Ghostwithalisp this is bungie we’re talking about. The fact that you’re surprised says more about you than me. Haha

@arachniawebz6176 16 дней назад

Poor Osteo Striga 😔... and the Lament nerf was just plain disrespectful 😭

@insatiablenate3963 16 дней назад

All of the nerfs felt extremely unnecessary. Osteo is basically dead now and Lament's healing factor never felt that strong to begin with. I'm not entirely sure what the sandbox team at Bungie are smoking. "Adaptive Burst Linear Fusions are strong", sure Bungie.

@DMoney0413 16 дней назад

Linear Fusions not named Sleeper are garbage. The nerf that hit after season of the Hunt and again when Stormchaser was released and then again after Veist Stinger perk made them the least useful heavy weapon. They are now situational and GLs/Rockets have been the go-to for the last 7-8 seasons

@revolvingzyclon6901 16 дней назад

@insatiablenate3963 The only reason why lament's healing was "strong" is because the ease of access warlocks and titans have to restoration

@controlleronpceasywin2978 16 дней назад

@@insatiablenate3963 adaptive burst are strong lol , they are missing the strongest perk that's all

@DtehHermit 16 дней назад

They owe us a yucky catalyst for Lament now...

@jadenyuki2031 16 дней назад

Buffing Bastion exotic fusion rifle is concerning, cause according to the sundial we will die while using that weapon lol.

@MrNooB-kb9gb 16 дней назад

point 👉

@revolvingzyclon6901 16 дней назад

Still not going to use it XD

@lukegill6908 16 дней назад

My child, we create our own fate

@IlPinguonauta 16 дней назад

Im gonna punch the Witness out of existence

@atheon- 16 дней назад

@@lukegill6908, bud, don't compare me to the vaporhead

@Danivus 16 дней назад

Gotta love deconstruct being fun for the briefest possible time before they obliterated it.

@Jahsatracks 16 дней назад

@revolvingzyclon6901 16 дней назад

Lament at launch: first time?

@ReeceRacc 16 дней назад

I have an Albedo Wing with Replenishing Aegis and Deconstruct and i love it for sustained tanking, too bad they're kneecapping it

@sonnyankau9239 16 дней назад

bungie does the same thing every time they introduce something that's actually fun/useful. nerf it into the ground once players find a way to optimize it. they put 0 thought into anything they add to the game which is why most exotics suck and don't see use when they were once pretty good.

@julioforessi1336 16 дней назад

I still don't really see the reason why. It wasn't available in any meta-breaking weapons, and for edge transit specifically it wasn't the objectively best option, so why make it into pretty much a useless perk given that it rolls in the 4th column

@robertetchingham7337 16 дней назад

Why am i not suprised darci wasnt brought up at all... they are terrified of that gun

@grsycatcarcass5042 16 дней назад

If Darci ever gets a buff we need to check on Bungie

@Fluffei22 16 дней назад

This made me laugh way harder than it shouldve

@mihajloristic4401 16 дней назад

@@Fluffei22i actually laughed out loud

@mazinhussein4297 15 дней назад

when will Mr. Darci get some love...

@dalektrekkie 15 дней назад

Why tho? It's so pathetic in its current state that even if all they did was give it a mild damage buff it still wouldn't be a great dps option. I don't think they're afraid of it; I think they just keep forgetting it's there

@Saber-tk8fp 16 дней назад

I like how they're acting as if the buff on 1k made it usable

@Gravesyte 16 дней назад

I didn't realize it was buffed what did they do to it?

@none-vr6vr 16 дней назад

@@Gravesyte more ammo

@Slattimir 16 дней назад

I literally still haven’t touched it

@drewnader1726 16 дней назад

@Slattimir I use it on Legenday Dares of Eternity sometimes, because of the heavy ammo on rounds 2 and 3. But even there is doesn't really feel all that good. Not sure what the gun is supposed to be used for.

@Rinickulous1106 16 дней назад

This week in onslaught its nasty on bosses due to the surge. And its a guaranteed stun on unstoppable champions. And being able to draw a line on the floor for a group of trash mobs causing ignitions and destruction on them is very satisfying. Until the blueberry jumps on front of you. Im not saying omg its meta. But its nice to use something different for once

@Mikoto_Suou 16 дней назад

giving symmetry eddy current instead of voltshot is really dumb even with the buff eddy current is a dead perk...

@Lorentz_Driver 16 дней назад

It Def should volt on the homing projectiles

@wwr90 16 дней назад

Agree that it should voltshot, but I’m probably going to keep a few Eddy Current weapons now and see how they feel post buff

@carlosflores4179 16 дней назад

Just make kill add stacks to revolution :(

@Or3nji 16 дней назад

@@carlosflores4179 THANK YOU. It's a pain in the ass to have to get precision hits on a rapid fire scout in pve unless you find a boss/miniboss to shoot at.

@revolvingzyclon6901 16 дней назад

They should've kept the bug that made the homing shots stun unstoppable champs then it would at least be usable

@Charlie092 16 дней назад

i love sitting in the back of the map and chipping away at an orange bar with a pulse ❤ thx bungie

@solis7368 16 дней назад

They buffed damage against red bars like we dont already have 90 thousand ways of nuking them instantly LMAO. Not touching orange bars was classic bungie balancing

@DemonicDragon6 16 дней назад

@@solis7368 they're buffing pulses against everything by 20% and buffing them again against red bars by 15%

@ReeceRacc 16 дней назад

They should make enemies seek out campers

@theSixPathsOfTrains 16 дней назад

Yeah true I get tired of playing the distance game.

@sand_sand7304 16 дней назад

@@ReeceRaccah yes, make GMs impossible for non-titans, why not give syntho a buff as well?

@OPCI_2501_V 16 дней назад

Clearly, Bungie thinks there are still way too much Destiny players

@nathanpeterson5609 16 дней назад

Only the people who are addicted to this game and keep playing it will actually pay attention to the blog post.

@arjunbaweja7755 16 дней назад

Well: no. Only change I hate is deconstruct but I wonder why it was so important for them to change it

@jcpenny6310 16 дней назад

@@arjunbaweja7755because it would almost double your reserves on edge transit if you lowered your mag size enough? it would probably have too much ammo convenience for the raid and in endgame

@dbhrgdb3638 16 дней назад

HAHAHAHAHAHA..... Exactly!!!!!! I am so pissed on this Twid drop is as dumb and the name TWID!

@SovietAssault69 16 дней назад

Literally. They are fucking up all of the great balance changes they've made in the last 6 months

@kalebanderson7483 16 дней назад

There is zero reason for div to be nerfed (it’s a player sacrificing their entire dps for ease of use). This is ridiculous.

@BigKrisco 16 дней назад

My only theory is that the raid must’ve been too easy during play testing; maybe easier than RoN w/ some of the weapon changes.

@kalebanderson7483 16 дней назад

@@BigKrisco I highly doubt the test found div to be the most optimal. The only way I see that happening is if the boss is either moving a shit ton or not at all.

@artur3306 16 дней назад

It's not that big of a nerf... do you even understand what these numbers mean? 75% more ammo to get the cage is nothing. It goes from 9 bullets do 16 bullets to generate the cage. It has a 1000 rpm... wich means it takes 0.42 seconds longer. it literally dosent matter

@REVOIRREVOLVE 16 дней назад

Saltgreppo is happy somewhere.

@mazinhussein4297 15 дней назад

divinity is no skill tho, back in my days in D1 we had to aim

@Tstory01. 15 дней назад

💀

@Lopeez 16 дней назад

Lament should not be getting a nerf whatsoever, it’s only used in 2 encounters and even then it’s not the best in those encounters. Highkey an L nerf

@JizzSock_ 16 дней назад

Nerf is due to upcoming raid encounter. Trust.

@Dad_Noir 16 дней назад

If no one really uses it, why does it matter? Lol

@coreypark3244 16 дней назад

@@Dad_Noir it's only meta in two encounters, but lots of people use it in other scenarios just for fun. i like using lament whenever i get the chance because it's a different dps strategy to rockets or grenade launchers. for those people, this sucks, because it doesn't need the nerf. but their fun is gone or lessened.

@WarBovine 16 дней назад

Bungle must have ties with Hasbro because its Nerf or nothing

@Trackaxion 16 дней назад

Div is getting nerfed. Well is getting nerfed. Izanagi is getting nerfed. What is the Final Shape Raid gonna be like?

@revolvingzyclon6901 16 дней назад

Easier than ron if they're nerfing div again XD

@chrisdavison4915 16 дней назад

Raids gonna be nerfed to lmao

@nullandvoid7524 16 дней назад

Still Izi GL/Whisper with Div.

@ThatRetardedNeighbour 16 дней назад

Day one raid I’ll always rock outbreak , and it just got buffed as well so that’s nice

@emti29 16 дней назад

This game, i swear.

@chickencoop5545 16 дней назад

*After reading all of this info "Damn, Vex is getting a 3% nerf"

@juggaloxmuzicxify 16 дней назад

😂😂😂

@ashleybekemeier1432 16 дней назад

did it say that it's getting a nerf?

@chickencoop5545 16 дней назад

@@ashleybekemeier1432 no, it's just by looking at the numbers since all exotic primaries currently do that 40% extra damage to red bars but in the final shape they will do only 30% more but All fusion rifles are going to get a 7% buff which includes Vex so 30% + 7% = 37% instead of the current 40% But I also could be wrong and they could do the 30% and the 7% multiplied (1.3 x 1.07 = 1.391) but yeah thanks for coming to my nerdy ass Ted talk lol

@ashleybekemeier1432 16 дней назад

@@chickencoop5545 oh i see, thanks for elaborating. rip vex literally unusable

@Freddy-wf6yh 16 дней назад

@@chickencoop5545 as far as i know Vex didnt recieve the 40 procent dmg for red bars?

@qg9953 16 дней назад

That colony buff is straight out of a horror game/movie the nightmare flashbacks 😱

@TheNeoVid 15 дней назад

"Cross was found dead in his room last night." "What got him?" "Colony grenade. They're persistent little bastards."

@ElementZephyr 16 дней назад

Truth has one of two paths: 1. The Mega Generic Exotic. Basically, max stats. High stability, handling, reload speed, 3 in the mag, and auto-reload on catalyst. 2. Lean into D1 Truth. Mega aggressive D1 tracking, huge proximity detection and giant blast radius to catch targets you didn't directly hit.

@athenawiltfong5717 16 дней назад

I hope they increase the damage output to match with the enemy toughness. When Lightfall dropped, they definitely made the enemies tougher. It made for frustrating gameplay.

@firstnamelastname4752 16 дней назад

Literally why I never ever do explore on Neomuna. Why bother doing something that grindy when the rewards are not commensurate.

@illusiveelk2558 16 дней назад

Bungie: "we want to reduce ability spam and increase gun usage" Also Bungie: *implements enemies that tank entire magazines and require ability spam to effectively kill* I don't always explore neomuna, but when I do, I bring an aggressive shotgun with discord.

@jamesmack9598 16 дней назад

Wait... Do people find Neomuna difficult?

@ReeceRacc 16 дней назад

@@jamesmack9598 Longer enemy TTKs does not mean harder. It means less fun

@capnnslapaho-5644 16 дней назад

Get good didn’t have an issue

@PopularNobody 16 дней назад

Everything being nerfed is what happens when the sweats complain about difficultly consistently

@ariansadri708 16 дней назад

Saltgreppo is happy now

@genzu6388 16 дней назад

Next patch notes: 'we've increased health across the board by 87,930% for enemy combatants"

@gamingoverlord8854 16 дней назад

The next patch notes after that: We hear players and are reducing enemy combatant health by 5%. We feel this allows players to still use the weapons they know and love while also not trivializing content

@genzu6388 16 дней назад

@@gamingoverlord8854 patch notes after that: We feel as though the 0.01% uptime on abilities and supers is too high in the current sandbox, so we will be reducing their function to be purely aesthetic to 'compliment' the gunplay.

@IronyMan34 16 дней назад

All I got from this is that Bungie thinks having fun is bad and decided to nerf everything into the ground.

@MM-he2iq 16 дней назад

If I’m being honest, this patch took a lot of the winds out of my sails that Into The Light gave. A number of my favorite weapons got huge nerfs. Dang

@JGburneraccount 16 дней назад

Sam brother. Its dumb asf.

@jackalexande 16 дней назад

at the end of the day it's just a game so I'm not rlly upset abt it

@LiamUraafe 16 дней назад

@@jackalexandeat the end of the day this is a game people play to have fun. These changes do not look fun. Period.

@theSixPathsOfTrains 16 дней назад

@@jackalexande Football is a "game" as well and you see all the xrap from that. 🤣

@vanessaoftheundead2613 16 дней назад

@@jackalexandeare people not allowed to be passionate about something they like? Just because it’s a game? lol

@treysmith9371 16 дней назад

Can they please just make queenbreaker an energy weapon again. It has no business being in the heavy slot

@chrisberg7862 13 дней назад

Just had this conversation last night lol

@treysmith9371 13 дней назад

@@chrisberg7862 I used to use it all the time for fun in 6v6 back in D1. Nowadays I don’t even thinks there’s one in my vault. It never had much utility in pve and will be far from a meta option even after these changes. Making it a power weapon just hurt the only place where it saw usage

@LakerTriangle 16 дней назад

Absolutely hate nerfing so many weapons at once with all the other changes coming to the game.

@Lorentz_Driver 16 дней назад

These buffs do not make up for the horrid nerfs. It's about to feel awful.

@insatiablenate3963 16 дней назад

Honestly, the nerfs felt targeted and unnecessary. Sunshot and Polaris were already gonna feel worse when this season ended, but now they're gonna feel like shit. Wave frame grenade launchers don't feel good in above-level content, but now they're gonna be damn near unusable. Osteo is literally fucking dead, tragic as hell. Thorn and Necrotic Grips are better now in every way imaginable. Lament getting smacked like it is and Bungie not even bothering to fix its tracking feels personal.

@jrdead8333 16 дней назад

People are going to use thorn with necro and than they are going to nerf poison and thorn in the next few months. I’m sad 😢

@revolvingzyclon6901 16 дней назад

@@insatiablenate3963 Lament out here catching strays from Bungie lmao

@ChaozMatt 16 дней назад

@@insatiablenate3963 sunshot will NOT feel bad lmao but yeah its defo some heavy and wierd nerfs

@ThermalSpace 16 дней назад

Get a life

@RetroWaveDave 16 дней назад

My man, keeping up with content even on vacation with the family. Appreciate you.

@willwill2548 16 дней назад

He's the most humble D2 youtuber 👌

@fixeuskeane 16 дней назад

Its his livelihood😂 lol

@Juulzyn 16 дней назад

He's touring Bungie for the Final Shape, not on family vaca lol

@yeetus-8383 16 дней назад

This is such a weird weapon pass considering the power creep of prismatic. Also the Sunshot and Polaris ones seem like an oversight, like they forgot they are only as cracked as they are right now because of artefact

@AurelieAris 16 дней назад

It didn't seem to mention it here, but I'm pretty sure when they first spoke of the new Necrochasm catalyst, they also mentioned that, unlike One For All, you could actually refresh the Duration on this buff as much as ya want, which is pretty rad

@nullandvoid7524 16 дней назад

Yeah Necro is about to be insane.

@Scott-ep1kx 16 дней назад

This is exactly why I haven’t gotten the final shape. All these unneeded nerfs. Why grind for weapons just to have them nerfed and made worthless

@kylekent706 16 дней назад

No Tarrabah buff while Necrochasm is gonna be running rampant everywhere is WILD

@wintereclipse3263 16 дней назад

Tarrabah recently destroyed pvp and was a near top pve exotic Necrochasm released in a spot where despite being good people were calling it bad and it had next to no usage so it's getting a buff. Also bungie said back with in season of the seraph I think it was the reason they don't touch tarrabah much is because the thing is on a thin line between completely broken and useless.

@JeremyMikstay 16 дней назад

@@wintereclipse3263tarrabah has never been a top pve gun lmao

@wintereclipse3263 16 дней назад

@@JeremyMikstay I said near. It had dps matching some of the top specials at the time and some of the best ad clearing. It started dropping when other weapons got buffed but for a short time it was a powerhouse capable of nearly 1 phasing a bunch of raid bosses

@kylekent706 16 дней назад

@wintereclipse3263 it was never a top PVE weapon. It was out shined by recluse since day one. It's never had the spotlight in PVE. While in PVP, it was a menace for sure, but fuck it. Let em buff it for the final shape and give us some fun. As of now, I would take recluse over it still. Probably any other smg as well to be fair. It's cool when it works, but even throwing a battery in onslaught makes you lose half your charge. It's outta control.

@svenM-xk3jl 16 дней назад

Give it incedecant

@jackal273 16 дней назад

This why i haven't pre ordered

@Budge-ip9kw 16 дней назад

The Lament and Izangi nerfs are the only things I don’t understand, osteo was a bit weird too tho 😐

@taylerphoenix9388 16 дней назад

Could have at least let izi keep the 7% buff, pointless.

@Wad3y 16 дней назад

bc theyre busted?

@pooPbutwhole 16 дней назад

@@Wad3ywe are not playing the same game

@simplyfitness892 16 дней назад

Iznagi was dps meta so made sense.

@dominikobaa8710 16 дней назад

In what world are those weapons not busted? Osteo had easiest adclear in the game, divinity is still a must pick, and half the players still izi swap beacose of how good the dps is

@Mr.Scratch-.-.-.-.-665 16 дней назад

Bungie: Grave Robber needs some extra Love .... Sealed Ahamkaras die in a Corner and Explode.

@revolvingzyclon6901 16 дней назад

Let's be honest here you aint using sealed grasps ever unless they get a rework

@Mr.Scratch-.-.-.-.-665 16 дней назад

@@revolvingzyclon6901 Yes i even gave Bungie multiple rework ideas but they won't listen to my Yapping so you will have to do. Thematicly similar to Ahamkara Spine i woud make it so that Sealed Ahamkara Grasps replace your Melee ability: - Ahamkaras Claw A strong powerd Melee AoE Cleave that can Hit Multiple Targets that adapts to your subclass. Hits with the Powerd Melee refill all weapons. Multikills (2-3 Targets + more) Overflows all Weapons Magazines (all exept Heavy if first is too unbalanced) Gives a chunk of melee energy based on Enemys Hit/Killed (depends on Balance). Normal Melee still functions like "Nightmare Fule" powerd Melee Kills and Finisher give you some melee energy.

@OneNubNinja 16 дней назад

All I got from this is that Sweaty Confetti is back. 🎉🎉

@Xarcell 16 дней назад

I am thinking this too.

@PolarHL 16 дней назад

The deconstruct nerf is understandable but also incredibly frustrating.

@Guile_The_Exile 16 дней назад

For a perk that no one was using, it's extremely undeserving of a nerf.

@july7863 16 дней назад

All that grinding for that damm tusk of the boar… what a sick joke😢

@mc_K 16 дней назад

Just spent 4 weeks grinding out an edge transit with sticky nades, cascade and deconstruct for them to gut it the next day. Dope.

@pooPbutwhole 16 дней назад

@@mc_Kliterally got mine a few days back, gonna get deleted now most likely

@everythingtankpit 16 дней назад

Another dead perk like 80% of the perks in the game. More fucking trash to fill their rng slot machine to make it that much harder to get anything useable like 7-9 perk column 3&4 wasn’t enough

@ReeceRacc 16 дней назад

Currently devastated about the Deconstruct nerf. I have an Albedo Wing with Replenishing Aegis and Deconstruct and it had SUPERB sustained tanking. Absolutely sucks that they decided to nerf it instead of fixing the bug with explosive weapons.

@CuteDeadlyBunny 15 дней назад

The nerfing of splash damage to the 4 exotics popular this season is WEIRD! How did the dev team just forget about their own seasonal mods that made these weapons excel into the “you’re dumb to not use it” category

@chillhour6155 16 дней назад

Osteos overflow already takes too long to poc where you essentially need to wait for enemies to die and also not accidentally reload at th end of the bas magazine, why don't they fix that instead

@Lctl10 16 дней назад

100000% Agree. Its absolutely the worst part of the gun (otherwise super fun) and now this bullshit. I swear bungie have a boner against actual fun gunplay and instead of making other guns fun and competitive, they rather take the lazy route and nerf to force you into playstyles you *don't* enjoy

@itsreapernecrosis2215 16 дней назад

Trying to make the new raid seem harder than it has to be.

@subzero308 16 дней назад

Yup that's bungies "difficulty" nerf everything and make enemies bullet sponges and then make us do less damage... Smh trash

@jeffjameson5082 16 дней назад

Exactly. It’s so obvious it’s hilarious. Seems my hopes for the raid might be too high

@r0main.895 16 дней назад

None of DPS the meta weapon have been nerfed and primary overall do more damage especially relative to exotics which mean zaoli and Luna are gonna be even more potent for endgame for example. You just got overwhelmed.

@aygaion2295 16 дней назад

@@r0main.895the dlc havent released yet, expect meta weapons nerf on release lmao, i swear you bungie throaters like to to forget who bungie is and what they tend to do.

@r0main.895 16 дней назад

@@aygaion2295 I mean it doesn’t work like that, for each big event you have one TWID for weapon adjustments and one for exotic armors and abilities. what we learned is what we will get for final shape then it will change for each episodes following. It was like this for every seasons this year

@nullandvoid7524 16 дней назад

Outbreak is about to be the most used PVE Primary in Final Shape. It's kinetic which builds Transcendance the fastest and with that 20% buff it's going to cook literally everything.

@coreypark3244 16 дней назад

kinetics got nerfed, not buffed

@keich7920 16 дней назад

@@coreypark3244 Reread what they said and reread the patch section on pulse rifles

@shadowblu77 16 дней назад

Yea I may have to cook a Chromatic Fire build for it ngl

@nullandvoid7524 16 дней назад

@@coreypark3244 Man can't do elementary school level math, that's tough

@rubymoonlight1102 16 дней назад

Yeah until everyone starts using it and that will get nerfed like everything else people use the most smh

@reyth9887 16 дней назад

The amount of nerfs does not outweigh the buffs, mostly because the nerfs we're getting were NOT needed in the slightest. Lament was just stupid, Osteo Striga might genuinely be a dead exotic now. Hey here's a cool exotic smg designed entirely around ad-clear, now hows about we add a fucking 4 second cooldown to the ad-clear part of the gun??? Fucking stupid as hell

@musicaltarrasque 16 дней назад

My heal clip incandescent Jurassic Green looking to be up in value

@revolvingzyclon6901 16 дней назад

0 times anything is still 0 sorry

@Xarcell 16 дней назад

Wish I had it. Never got heal clip with my incandescent rolls.

@lordsucuk9316 16 дней назад

I would love to love that gun, but unfortunately it feels like the most inacurrate and jumpy peashooter they ever created

@jayxlll7309 16 дней назад

I’m gonna craft the adhorative today it gets heal clip incandescent

@HighCharityYT 16 дней назад

@@Xarcell Adhorative is craftable and can get heal/incan :)

@jordanliwosz 16 дней назад

When does Bungie replace the full auto perk on guns that still have them??

@silvverskyy4582 16 дней назад

I know right

@evo3481 16 дней назад

And remove the full auto mod they got rid of boss spec and kept full auto?

@yashugoyal1772 16 дней назад

@@evo3481 It's for people who don't want full auto on all weapons, and only a select few. They don't have to compromise on losing some damage by not using spec mods now.

@kurtisdeakin 16 дней назад

Lol! A fix for something that doesn't touch the economy? Keep waiting

@Wad3y 16 дней назад

@@yashugoyal1772yea but you’re throwing if you arent using full auto

@pharma_weeb1175 16 дней назад

gonna get rid of a lot of my deconstruct weapons now

@demonfox51321 16 дней назад

Probably just put them in vault never use them

@supersizesenpai 16 дней назад

Supremacy with bait and switch is gonna be a must use during DPS phases with kinetics getting that nerf.

@nullandvoid7524 16 дней назад

Supremacy is still getting a 7% buff to make up that slight nerf. Also Kinetic Tremors with Rewind Rounds>>>>Bait and Switch

@revolvingzyclon6901 16 дней назад

@@nullandvoid7524 Fourth times/Rewind rounds > kinetic tremors/rewind rounds lmao

@pirate135246 16 дней назад

@@revolvingzyclon6901if you are a bot that doesn’t swap then yeah lmao

@yashugoyal1772 16 дней назад

@@revolvingzyclon6901 Try using your heavy for damage maybe

@Wad3y 16 дней назад

@@yashugoyal1772if youre on tractor, ghorn or dragons breath u wanna use supremacy or ikelos

@flop7121 16 дней назад

Latest TWAB in history fr

@Ihatethisgameitsmyfav 16 дней назад

It’s not a twab. It’s a dev insight.

@Venomized9 16 дней назад

Bruh it's not even Thursday 😅

@iponce2 16 дней назад

Twab so late it came out early

@oniforklift1019 16 дней назад

He’s on vacation rn

@mrdockane1771 16 дней назад

He's running...a..marathon

@Sodamachine62 16 дней назад

They nerf things that are being abused BECAUSE OF THE ARTIFACT MOD. By themselves their average or above average weapons but not broken

@brycepersons7575 16 дней назад

I cant wait to use Outbreak with the pulse buff in TFS. It already feels extremely good this season. Using it with Wewind Wounds and another 20% damage buff is gonna be wild

@JGburneraccount 16 дней назад

They are going to nerf outbreak in 6 months. That's how Bungie deals with things, this is shit.

@gamingoverlord8854 16 дней назад

One part, kinetics do build anything faster. It builds both bars at the same time at half the speed, or one bar at normal speed if the other is full. (Before accounting for the fragment)

@felwinterpeak1674 16 дней назад

So may 22 we'll see the "Frost armor" and other stasis updates, hopefully. Been 5 months when Aztecross showed that twab.

@chrisotoole82 16 дней назад

We saw frost armour active in a vid on new map few weeks back it seems to stack guy had it at x4

@felwinterpeak1674 16 дней назад

@chrisotoole82 yeah but what does it do? I'm sure it like barrier in a way, but we don't know it yet.

@Angelux51 16 дней назад

Wow, no Ticcus Divination buff

@Falconer5752 16 дней назад

Sorry, best we can do is nerf Osteo a 3rd time and make Lament a blue sword.

@benstanfill363 16 дней назад

I just want a tiny bit of scorch on hip fire. So many things can be triggered by the smallest bit of scorch.

@perooo8526 16 дней назад

And Devils Ruin. If only the laser mode would apply scorche.

@artur3306 16 дней назад

@@perooo8526 they should make devils a special sidearm like indebted kindness from warlords ruin

@XepherTim 16 дней назад

@@perooo8526 And hitting the whole laser burst causes an ignition, imagine...

@kkami6231 16 дней назад

these nerfs are ridiculous, im dreading the armor nerfs in the next twab😭😭

@gamingoverlord8854 16 дней назад

I'm expecting something that makes it where people don't feel forced to run surges (in Raids and such)

@maxenders8089 16 дней назад

At this point bungie just forgot that Daci even exists

@Ryutix 16 дней назад

I've always loved eriana's, Ignition on a shield break sounds so beautiful

@raptoreagle2000 16 дней назад

Ammo economy is still ass tho..

@TheInfamousS 16 дней назад

@@raptoreagle2000 Still won't one shot barriers either so it'll stay dismantled over here 🗣🤦😂

@wkgates 16 дней назад

I love eriana's, but really wished the unstoppable hand cannon mod worked on it 😭

@TheInfamousS 16 дней назад

@@wkgates That would have single handedly saved it when Unstoppable Hand Cannon came out just for the utility alone. But nah... Bungie killed that dream fast. 😭👎😭

@gallien 16 дней назад

Agree but put on the right mods if you're in Solar spec and you have 38 shots in reserve.

@arod304 16 дней назад

Why is bungie doing Kinetic to snipers.We grind for these weapons to have fun and feel powerful

@mooch1583 16 дней назад

Collective Obligation getting nothing but buffs since it came out is crazy

@thelordsergei 16 дней назад

I’m a lucky pants hunter so hearing that the Wardens law got a massive nerf for no damn reason after grinding for it just makes me so bummed… Honestly kinda took the wind out of me man…

@kyanmatena3948 16 дней назад

well time for you to grind the new 2 burst weapon thats coming with final shape :)

@UndeadCheetah 16 дней назад

I can't find anything about this nerf, what was the nerf? Cause if true I will be going back to never touching hunter as Lucky Pants is the only reason I play that class.

@raptoreagle2000 16 дней назад

@@UndeadCheetah kinetic weapons got nerfed against bosses.

@1shaggy123 16 дней назад

@@UndeadCheetah Also, Handcannon lost boss spec and did not get the 7.7% buff to match against bosses. They onlty got a 5% buff vs red bars. So, Wardens law lost 15% or more against bosses with Lucky Pants. Crappy

@rockkyboyo 16 дней назад

Osteo, never forget 2022-2024 😢

@insomniaddictesp 16 дней назад

I’m so glad I didn’t chase deconstruct, man, I just knew Bungie wasn’t going to let this live like that.

@TheEverydayGamer1000 16 дней назад

Repulsor/Destablizing Elsie’s Rifle stocks are up baby

@GammonMaster-PcP 16 дней назад

I think Bungie doesn’t understand that making big changes, nerfs to people’s favorite weapons right before a new expansion is not the smartest move to get people to buy First, there are already so many new changes to Final Shape to deal with, now a big change to weapons as well A lot of changes coming coming after a season that everyone was really enjoying Should have waited till after the launch, let us get used to Prismatic changes and new enemies etc, then make whatever changes to the weapons to fit, as it would make more sense to players after seeing the new meta Too many nerds at Bungie who just look at stats, but are clueless about true human nature. Less is more sometimes and knowing how to not overwhelm your customers This was a good season I really enjoyed after a very long time of boring ones, not looking foreword to the FS as much as I hoped I would…

@riatsila144 16 дней назад

Sunshot has probably been my favorite weapon since year 1. This is gonna hurt.

@rayne217 16 дней назад

Not at all lmao. The gun will feel the same, you're going to feel the lack of artifact mods, not the 10% aoe damage nerf.

@chrisbarnesbarnes8332 16 дней назад

Sunshot was absolute shit back in year 1😂. So if it was your favorite weapon before its massive buff idk how in the hell this would change your opinion on using it

@EepyGirlLava 16 дней назад

w h a t. It was shit for so long, think for a second here, if you liked it back THEN, it only became worth using pretty presently, and ittl be way better than it used to be.

@riatsila144 16 дней назад

@@rayne217 hopefully it'll still light up rooms just fine.

@ThePackman627 16 дней назад

BTW they mentioned that: "Also note that, because Exotic weapons can't equip mods, this gives them a larger relative buff than Legendaries, e.g., Riskrunner's maximum possible damage is increased 10% versus red bars, but Shayura's Wrath's is increased by 3% in effect because it can no longer slot a Minor Spec mod. " So take all of these buffs, and take off 7% since the spec mods are going away. For example, autos are getting a 15% buff to red bars, but if you've always ran minor spec on your auto, the buff will be more like 6-7%

@shinydreemurr5470 16 дней назад

Further note on the riskrunner comparison. It actually doesn't get a damage change going into fs due to exotic primarys are going from 40% to 30% bonus vs redbars. It literally doesn't change it's damage profile vs redbars in pve going in FS.

@mybags_a_dragon 16 дней назад

I use blast furnace with firefly zen moment now and it’s gng to be better.

@bdub846 16 дней назад

Not sure if anyone else noticed this but along with the recent changes to 450 pulses and the new damage in TFS, Bad juju might be a go to pick for a primary. I believe bad juju and huckleberry are the only weapons with the original rampage damage scaler which is up to 60%? So when juju revs up you’re probably looking at almost 90%+ more damage to red bar/enemies.

@elmenda1237 16 дней назад

My only actual concern is the reduction of the splash damage of both Polaris lance (I just realized that the weapon is REALLY good) and Sunshot (One of my main weapons) but solar being solar i think it will be fine... Also, is pretty obvius that they are nerfing Osteo so we use Necrochasm instead for the same build. And the lament buff... dang, I just got the weapon, welp, onto Sleeper simulant again.

@deejayy8303 16 дней назад

Bungie sure knows how to blow your high huh?!

@kurtisdeakin 16 дней назад

That's the bungie we know and hate. What happened to desperate bungie, hungry to please us and lure us back? They dropped that mask quickly

@AzureSapphires 16 дней назад

Best Lament combo is 2 lights + 1 heavy, its fast and its good for damage.

@bdub846 16 дней назад

Soo…legendary rockets and grenade launchers got somewhat of a nerf. You can no longer add damage spec mods to them and they didn’t mention a universal increase damage to either. I guess you could slot in adept mag, but that only applies to GL’s and nobody really goes for that if envious assassin is an option.

@nicholaswilliams3323 16 дней назад

the kinetic nerf was dumb.. shoulda been a stasis and strand buff to bring them up to the boss damage numbers instead imo

@richardcarson3596 16 дней назад

If they make the weaken for deterministic chaos 30 percent like tractor cannon it will be come meta overnight.

@DarthSpiderMario 16 дней назад

Personally very happy that they’re renaming the Adaptive Burst Sidearms to differentiate them from the non-burst frame archetype of the same previous name, that tilted me so much

@MrTmm97 15 дней назад

3:13 so fusions, snipers, and glaives are remaining are at 7% being equal to major, boss, and adept big ones spec. Lines Fusion rifles are only getting a 5% buff… meaning they are actually being nerfed FURTHER. Not by a lot but the nerfs add up. Not to mention they are all a nerf when compared to Taken Spec.

@teddygunzbarno2102 16 дней назад

This is why I didn't order FS because alot of the nerfs have to do with Prismatic bungie is like this will be to power when u use an exotic it sould feel good instead nerfs to the grave

@stuffandthings617 16 дней назад

I try to get collective in this weeks Pantheon... just have to find a group who is able to do it 🙈

@threeofjays6420 16 дней назад

Personally yeah they did too many nerfs ro justify the buffs balance

@centy4773 16 дней назад

24:50 Whatever catalyst that Tessellation has to be something Prismatic related if Quicksilver Storm is anything to go off of, and I bet it’ll be some huge multi-elemental explosion when a Transcendence grenade is consumed like Cross said.

@Handlesaretrash 16 дней назад

Still need to undo that stupid nerf they did on Young Aham Spine, I miss my tripmine PvE build

@zedsdead9982 16 дней назад

Man the Nerfs 😢

@Lorentz_Driver 16 дней назад

They suck. So do the "buffs."

@InfamousPanda57 16 дней назад

Hi Laurence @@Lorentz_Driver

@Efosu33 16 дней назад

So basically Outbreak Perfected will be broken (good luck running the mission as a solo player, even on normal difficulty💀), Adept weapons are garbage now, Devs hate ad clear, Hullabaloo, Deconstruction is just a mag reloader perk in the 4th column (be fr, how often are you fighting/damaging constructs in this game?)=garbage, Gjallarhorn will make your fireteam more colorful than the pride flag, nerfing Kinetic weapons in PVE is actually diabolical, 1-2 Punch fusion rifle. Hope every one is ready to main warlock because we love casting spell🧙‍♂

@revolvingzyclon6901 16 дней назад

You can't finish it on normal solo? I am sorry, but this has to be asked, How bad are you at this game you have 40 mins to finish it.

@Efosu33 16 дней назад

@@revolvingzyclon6901 Have you done it on normal solo? Because you wouldn't be saying this if you actually have. A GM is easier than this

@revolvingzyclon6901 16 дней назад

@@Efosu33 I have I had like 10-15 min left bud

@timothywalker4621 12 дней назад

Is this a challenge. Because i think its a challenge. @@Efosu33

@Alassandros 16 дней назад

22:55 Okay, but what does Permissibility do on swords? Can we get increases charge rate or free ammo for a moment, similar to Discord?

@jordanhill7162 16 дней назад

so what could this mean for all the videos that have been made about which weapons to bring to final shape? that has all changed now right?

@jmard24 16 дней назад

There was a time where dmt held a permanent primary position. Havent seen it since it was nerfed. And the legendary versions are trash at best.

@Shigure2023_ 16 дней назад

Will Lucky Pants Kinetic handcannons still be effective? I currently use Malfeasance most of the time with lucky pants

@buff5081 16 дней назад

In final shape there will be a new Strand Handcannon like wardens law, maybe it will have better perks so it could be better than wardens law. Sooo maybe lucky pants will still be effective

@charlestonjew7587 12 дней назад

Meanwhile, Glaives. I'm surprised Bungie hasn't flat-out removed them from the game yet. I've seen some limited PvP use with them but nothing that would outshine or be preferable to anything else, let alone wasting an exotic slot.

@jvsilky7199 16 дней назад

You can also craft the neomuna wave frame with enhanced chain reaction for even stronger effects! But hullabaloo is too fun to say

@Cerberus1141 16 дней назад

Cerberus +1 is gonna be meta in PvP

@Aztesticals 16 дней назад

I already knew this year's ago. It's always been good. Just requires an entirely new playstyle

@Cerberus1141 16 дней назад

@@Aztesticals I have 10k kills on Cerberus +1

@naiveveg8447 16 дней назад

Don't like the change. Those alt fire shots could really tear up a team when everything went right. How does this benefit it pve is the real question? Give the damn thing one for all already..

@Cerberus1141 16 дней назад

@naiveveg8447 it does 40% more damage in Alt Fire, so it will be busted kill clip bc less spread and more damage

@rileymoffatt7702 16 дней назад

I stoked it’s been my favourite exotic since it dropped

@frostbyte8835 16 дней назад

What's the odds Bungie is sunsetting optional weapon mods only to reintroduce it to us later and make us grind for them. Or even weapons that accept the new damage mods.

@kingofpaty 16 дней назад

I think a interesting change to truth would be that it weakens Targets and target that get hit by it are revealed with the true sight effect for the whole team 17:52

@Yxezo_Don 16 дней назад

I love the necrochasm buff but why not make is take advantage of substisence by fully reloading the mag instead of reload speed

@sherky7207 16 дней назад

While we are getting some pretty serious nerfs (and some of them hurt me on a personal level), I'm intrigued to see how some of those newly buffed exotics will perform... Colony especially seems to be getting some pretty insane ad-clear potential, so I look forward to it, and that Eriana's Vow buff is looking pretty juicy for obvious reasons. Also, with the changes coming to pulse rifles, I'm very excited to see how something like Outbreak Perfected, or even Bad Juju (I love how that gun looks ok) will perform!

@kurtisdeakin 16 дней назад

Chase the ever shifting meta! No don't look at the story or state of the game, forget the lack of content, just keep focusing on our forced changes to the sodding meta.

@synth3431 16 дней назад

@@kurtisdeakinwomp womp

@daveb7049 16 дней назад

You’ll use colony once, realise it does the same thing as a volt shot indebted kindness and shard it again.

@dominikobaa8710 16 дней назад

"Nooooooooo.... Someone is happy and enjoying the changes we cant have that!!!" Is what that guy sounds like. Quit the game if you dont enjoy it. I think its in pretty nice state right now after lightfall slog of seasons, and the needs (except for lament) are justified.

@asaabed4200 16 дней назад

@@kurtisdeakinman, allow yourself to enjoy stuff. I feel like some people just force themselves to hate something, which in turn reduces any other fun they would’ve had to almost 0. Of course there are issues with the game, and you are right to hold concerns about those things, it’s important to! But this dude was literally just expressing excitement for some upcoming changes that they like, you don’t need to be spreading your destiny doomsday-ism to everyone and everything

@pch1370 16 дней назад

Another Div nerf right in time for the upcoming TFS raid, that's interesting, I feel like that's a hint that there's gonna be an encounter with a fast-moving boss like Rhulk. Surely they realized in playtesting that even in its current nerfed state, Div can still trivialize those types of bosses lol.

@pooPbutwhole 16 дней назад

Div pre-nerf didn‘t trivialize anything in Vow day 1

@PEEK-A-BOO101 16 дней назад

People cry too much about the good tools they have and once they get those tools nerfed they start crying that the game is unplayable and/or too hard... They just can't see beyond their own noses is all.

@Bidniss. 16 дней назад

Div nerf does literally nothing. It takes 9 shots to get the cage up currently. It will now take 16 shots. The gun shoots at 1000rpm. That's like a 0.4 second difference.

@kc_ishan4210 16 дней назад

What is the sidearm you are using in the onslaugh kills?

@ramen-numerals 16 дней назад

at 5:50 the reason kinect’s SHOULD do more boss damage is because you can’t match surges with your heavy. It’s always more efficient to go with a matching GL or fusion

@JusAFarmer 16 дней назад

Why we nerfing div its like used in 10% of content, also I like my spec mods IMO

@X0QZ666 16 дней назад

No nerf to conditional in pvp after all this time blows my mind. Enough is Enough

@benodoms5181 16 дней назад

Conditional is fucking unreal. Every twab where it isn't nerfed takes a year off my life, and I don't think I'll make it out my 20s

@nullandvoid7524 16 дней назад

Crucible will suck regardless. Any change they make to it will gut it in PVE. Just remove Crucible so the sandbox can actually be fun, enough is enough.

@Lord-Hossa 16 дней назад

@@nullandvoid7524just because you suck at PvP doesn’t mean it needs to be removed. People still enjoy Crucible whether you like it or not. Destiny doesn’t survive without PvP

@thatloner2831 16 дней назад

I don't touch crucible for obvious reasons but I do hear that it's one of the only things keeping wells and bubbles in check from dominating so a nerf would probably make things worse.