Can we take a moment to appreciate that they also make the show accessible and understandable for americans, by using measures like 2 standard cats and half a dalmatian.
It's hilarious here, but getting hooked to death is probably one of the worst ways to cause an industrial accident! Remember folks: If your PPE has anything to grab onto, it's not PPE--but a snare trying to get you. That's not Superstition; that's Science!
@@nvckels140 the only difference is that one actually mattered and got her into first place. It’s a comedy show, so it’s not really that serious. But the buckets handle will support 100% of the weight put inside it until that bucket or handle breaks. The bag isn’t supporting anything in the bucket, it is only surrounding the bucket. This isn’t a “by that logic” argument. It is just general fact stated. But I mean, if you wanna DQ the guy in last place too, that’s fine.
@@ObjectsInMotion actually, that isn’t technically correct. A rope assists you in climbing a mountain. A straw assists you in drinking water. You get in a car and it assists you in moving from point A to point B. Turning assistance is even a term used for cars. And hell, an AI robot which is technically lifeless can assist you.
@@bloodelfreku It is against the rules that Vine got a point, it is against the rules that the bucket hangs on its handle. Greg is an absolutist ruler. Bending the rules is always hit or miss when it comes to his decisions, but by letting some get through, there is at least a reason to do something unconventional. And let's face it - everybody doing the tasks the correct way and one just being best is just boring.
At first I thought he put the hook there then forgot about it. But reality was far, FAR more interesting! Even the universe wants to join the Taskmaster games.
Task: Make a thing to vanish. Biggest object to vanish wins. Mawaan Rizwan makes a palm-size cow vanish, while others make an actual couch or Alex Horne disappear. Taskmaster: Mawaan wins 5 points.
Yeah and it was stupid. I would've just knotted the bag into a rope and used the shovel to hang myself on it. A knotted bag would be able to withstand the weight of a human easily.
I mean it was never assisted. There was just not Only a bag hanging on it. It's Alex's fault for taking into account more than the bag. The bag surely weighed less.
@@marz6770 "Make this plastic bag as heavy as possible." If you hang a bucket on the hook, you're adding bucket weight directly to the hook and not adding weight to the bag. Irrelevant that it isn't 'assisting the bag'.
I still think about how if not for Tim's absurdly bad luck, he probably would have won this task. And that would have been a five point swing (+4 for him, -1 for Liza). Considering he lost to Liza by 6 points in the overall series, it really could have made a huge difference.
Nah, I think he put too much in his bag and it would have ripped anyway. Just putting tape on the handles doesn't make the rest of the bag more sturdy.
But he ripped the bag though. Hanging it on a thin piece of metal would've even ripped it faster. I think filling the bag with water was a genius idea to be honest. The other girl could've probably filled it a little more. The other bag was leaking because the woman put other objects in it with sharper edges which created weak points. Only water wouldn't create weak points.
@@twomz Well, if he hadn't spent so much time looking for the hook, he could have taken a bit more time to make sure the bag was hanging on properly. But @feasible in the end it's all just guesswork. There's loads of tasks where, if just one thing had gone a little bit differently, the point would have changed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And especially if the points are really close, almost every task could 'have made a huge difference'.
I can easily imagine it would have broken anyway, but I expect if he had 10 minutes extra (that he would have had if he hasn't been looking for the hook), he would have realised it was going to break and that's more than enough time to basically gaffa tape the whole bag up.
could of just rolled the bag up and folded it onto itself then rolled it again and hung from it with that much layering the bag should be able to hold at least 90 kg up wards of 150 pounds
needed to reinforce it underneath by attaching the handles under the bag. I would have twisted the bag into a rope and then tied it to something heavy (I think there was a bike on the shed) and then hung stuff off the bike.
Yeah my first thought was ‘well you can just hang onto the hook yourself alongside the bag’. But making it a sort of rope to hang onto is more in the spirit of things.
Alex Horne saw the hook on Tim's shirt, saw Tim having a steady mental breakdown while looking for the hook for 15 minutes, and thought 'it will make great TV if I just don't tell him' and that's why he's the best at his job.
The hook is genuinely one of the most gut wrenching bits of television I've ever seen. Nobody should have to go through that, especially when he's the only one smart enough to reinforce the bag T-T
Liza often "cheated" per say on her tasks and wasn't called out for it, the way they did with other contestants. There have been so many times when they show a contestant banging out a task and then BOOM show something that DQ's them or will put them at the bottom - but they so rarely, if ever, do that to Liza when they should. And there are multiple tasks where this happens with her.
No breaking of rules. The bag itself hang unassisted. She just hung an additional object on the hook. So by my interpretation, the bucket and its content did not contribute to the weight of the bag. I would have subtracted the bucket (and its content) weight from the total of 27kg, but of course I am not the TM or even little Alex. :)
@@galaxspace1 You think trials ought to give less leeway than taskmaster ?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Trials are way more life impacting and important than taskmaster, it therefore is taskmaster that can allow itself to not be giving any leeway whatsoever... Not a trial...
I just noticed an issue with the scoring. When reporting back the weights, Asim is at 16 kg 2:40 and Alice at 20 kg 5:40, but at the end of the show, Asim gets 4 points. 9:30
Twist bag into 'rope' 2 feet long. Tie ends together into a loop. Hang your loop over hook to satisfy requirements. Hang pretty much anything from that loop, rather than the flimsy handles of the bag. It never said you had to use the bag as a container, just that it had to hang freely from the hook.
Was really hoping someone would make the bag 'heavy' by just writing on it: "This plastic will outlive you and all the dolphins it kills to make your life slightly easier."
I'm confused. LAH said that Alice had 20.5kg and that Asim had 16, but Asim still got second. He must have misspoke. I'm guessing that Alice had 12.5 not 20.5, as that seems closer to 2 cats and 20 mice.
This was just brilliant! Should have thought it was scripted, but apparently it wasn’t. I first thought he hang it there just temporarily. Often the loosers gets the most entertainment.
none of them noticed that at no point in the rules did it state you needed to put anything IN the bag, only that it had to hang unassisted. my solution: roll up the bag length-wise, tie it into a loop, place the tied section on the S-hook, hold onto the loop and hang off it. good luck beating that.
Interesting thesis. Yea, the bag had to be heavy. Naturally, you'd put things into the bag to make it heavy. Now, if we'd twist the bag into a rope, and let for example, the bucket hand from it, we'd have a stury object to be filled with heavier things. Now the question is, would this be considered the bag being heavy, or not.
This was the very first task I ever saw from this show!! 3 1/2 years later and I'm still watching almost every one of their uploads. It's funny cause I was even just thinking about this vid recently and it got recommended to me
The bucket wasn't assisting the bag, however everything inside the bucket didn't make the bag heavier either, but was still counted to the total. The weight of the bucket should have been detracted from the overall weight.
@@JamesD-iw6pr If you don't want to admit you essentially just said the same as me differently worded, fine, but don't come with just a weak excuse as you not having the time or energy when you almost immediately reply back with the same excuse.
1. Get rid of the height, so lower the bag almost all the way to the ground, that's why they used pallets. 2. Fold the bag as many times as possible, braid it or twist it and increase the bags tensile strength. 3. Use sand or gravel to fill the bag progressively and fill it to it's full extended volume. Maybe one of this ideas work, or perhaps a combination of all.
Wouldn't be the plastic weight gaining weight, would be the stuff on/in the plastic bag adding weight. They interpreted the task as "Make the weight display the highest possible weight without using anything other than the plastic bag to hold objects and without using anything else to reduce the load on the bag," which is not the task. The task is to make the PLASTIC BAG heavier, which you can only do by changing the gravitational factor. Speed also affects weight, so you could increase the weight of the bag by having it fall downwards. You can imagine it as a rock having a greater weight (momentarily) when you drop it on top of a weight from a height, than if you just lay the rock on the weight in a stable position.
so your on the right path but dont fill the bag just laydown on the ground and hold the bag from both ends after you have braided it and folded it. the bag should have no problem holding upwards of 150 pounds
Oh don't you worry. They actually weigh themselves in stone... When I first spoke with a brit about his weight I thought he was trying to take the piss out of me. :D
I think the best play would be get the hose. Water is surprisingly heavy, and would have perfectly even weight distribution. Maybe even dissolve a whole bunch of salt into it, dump the salt in while the hose runs. Would be undoubtedly the winner.
They would if he had put them on the hook on the ground and then moved the rest of it up to the scale. It had actual potential, but we will never know.
I saw that shed and I immediately thought "get a shovel, dig a hole and fill the bag with dirt" with the bucket 'trick' anyone could have easily gotten over 30kg
Bonus points that they *do* show the hook at 6:47 . Makes me think of those kids shows (e.g., Dora the Explorer) where the character asks the audience if they can find an object.
I think I would’ve rolled the bag into a tube, run it through the opening at the bottom of the scale, and then tied the ends together to make it a ring like structure. Then I’d hang the hook from the bag and put the bucket on the hook and filled it up. My thinking is that this way the bag will have a higher degree of strength just like a braided rope
That's one reading, but it makes the task itself essentially impossible. In the context of the task, I think "bag" has to be read as "bag and its contents", or else you just get people piling-on layers of tape (and even that would still be questionable). Still, fair point; the wording is ambiguous.
One could argue that you can't make the bag itself heavier. It has a fixed mass. You can put things inside it that are heavy, but the weight of the actual plastic bag itself hasn't changed. So they all tied.
@4:32 exactly you can clearly see that the bucket was hanging from the scale and the bag was simply present. I'm surprised none of the other contestants noticed that.
These bags are rated for a specific max weight (usually 10kg or 15kg, the newer recyclable materials are usually on the weaker side), that should be specified on them. Liza circumvented that by actually hanging the bucket by its handle. Adding gaffer tape to the handles was also quite a good idea to increase the bag's durability.
Thank you. I was searching for this comment. I'm guessing they said Alice's wrong and it weighed 10.5 kg, because Russel's 10 kg bag weighed 2 cats and her bag weighed 2 cats and 20 mice. I looked up the weight of a mouse and 20 mice weigh around 500 grams.
As a person who does backpacking-style camping, it fascinates me how many people don't realize how fucking heavy water is compared to most objects. My backpack feels great until there's 3L of water on it, then it's the heaviest thing in the world
Hahaha I was going to make a joke about where do I find a 54kg octopus... then I found out that’s about the average size. Thanks TM. I learned something today. Had no idea
The bag is as heavy as it will ever be at the start, the task isn't to have the heaviest things in the bag but to make the bag itself heavier. Task complete at the start I would say.
It's kind of common sense that you can't make the bag itself heavier, but that "heavy bags" is considered bags being heavy due the stuff they're filled with....
@@mafuletrekkie @mafuletrekkie Yea I saw many episodes and part of episodes. I usually enjoy it, as silly as some tasks may be. But most of the time, they stick mostly to the rules, unless some idea is so extremly ridiculous, that you can interpret the rules differently. Some even DO use common sense in this show and win by a long-shot. (at least the tasks)
After hearing the task, here is what I'd do: 1. Fill the bag with water. 2. Find heavier objects to put into the bag. 3. Win. (Sidenote: If possible, find another bag, either the same size or a smaller one. The smaller one would be a bit of a cheat though, as it may be "inside" the bag, it wouldn't make the outer bag heavier and instead, would lift some of the weight from the bag, so it won't rip as easy. But since the outer bag doesn't have the weight on it, that's what would make it a cheat. As for the bag of the same size, it would technically not be a cheat, at it would just prevent the outer bag from ripping, but with them being the same size, every weight in the inner bag would be also on the outer one.) ^ Which is why I also believe Liza was kinda cheating, because most weight was distributed on the bucket, rather than the bag around it.
Alice was robbed, her approach was the most elegant and didn't need refilling the bag at the end. Using water was definitely a stroke of genius from both ladies.
Alice was on the right track, but she should have tried to also put heavier objects inside. The water distributes the weight and hopefully prevents the bag from ripping, but the water is not enough.
"Not heavy objects, but water?" You know.... one of the more dense common objects you can find. Also plastic bags can hold several 2-liters and more. Not as fragile as she makes it out to be lol
The one with the bucket was almost a genius. Put the bucket in the bag with the handle also on the hook. Fill up the bucket completely. THEN add water to the bag. The bucket handle is highly unlikely to break even if the bucket is full of water.... and ALL of the water would technically still be in the bucket!
Alex is pretty careful about not giving out extra information that's not strictly about clarifying the instructions given (usually; he's gotten burned before through doing so. Thinking of Sara Pascoe and the water-transfer task. Plus, if he did answer, the contestants would just pump him for info on every task). Also, Tim only asked him if he'd seen where the hook went, not where it actually was. Still, yeah, a little surprising Alex didn't answer at all. He could have said "yes" and left it at that, but I don't think anyone anticipated that particular turn of events, so you gotta cut him some slack for thinking on his feet.
Feels like the bucket and the gaffer tape are very much assisting the hanging of the bag, which was clearly forbiden 0:24. I guess they thought it clear that only human assistance was taken into account.
Best way would’ve been to tie the plastic bag with the bottom looped through the handles, and then attach something onto that loop that you made or pushed down with your own weight. Plastic looped like that is extremely strong. Could easily hold 50 kilo
yeah just roll and fold the bag, and then hold it from each side as the layering will make the plastic very strong and then just hang from it could easily hold a person up
Oh that was one of the best oops moments haha he couldn’t find the hook😅😂 I’m so glad I just had this show recommended to me on RU-vid. Been binging it like mad.
A) Tie the bag and make a double loop , triple is long enough, out of the bag and hang other heavy objects on it. B) I thought about getting a rope and pulling down on the scale to make the numbers go up. C) Breaking the scale and taping the hand to the highest number and letting the bag hang. D) All of the above. You might have to reinforce the stick with somethin metal to hold the weight ; )
