Make Your Own Gelled Alcohol Fuel Q & A

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NJ Chris commented: "Hiram, They sell these absorbing polymer crystals in stores like lowes and home depot in the garden section. They are little crystals that you mix with the soil and they gel up and hold water in for the plants... Do you think those gel crystals would work with alcohol? When they are mixed with water they have a very similar consistency to Sterno fuel."
KE4VVF commented: "Hiram, If I recall correctly, a few years ago you explained that you could refill a spent Sterno container with alcohol and it would jell up sort of like the original product. Did you have any luck using that technique? Thanks"
Here are links to other videos I've done that are related to the Sterno Refilled video. I've reloaded some of my old videos after I did re-edits because the music police marked a lot of them, "Video blocked in some countries." as a result of my music choices.
Please bear in mind that at the time I was still learning how to make videos, I still am learning. Plus the camera I used then sometimes made my breathing sound very much like Darth Vader.
"Swiss M1 Stove Mystery - Reloaded"
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Sterno can refilled with Perlite and alcohol flame test - Reloaded
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CanteenShop GrillTop Stove Stand - Sterno - Boil Test #7 - Reloaded
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@jonathansgarden9128 2 года назад

Crush eggshells or sidewalk chalk for Calcium Carbonate. Add vinegar, heat, mix over and over on the heat until it clears up so you can see no cloudiness anymore. (there will be a salt looking substances on the bottom). Let it cool to room temp. Pour through coffee filter. What you get is sodium acetate. Add your denatured alcohol and mix. It will gel, it will light, you've basically made homemade sterno

@TopCat2021 Месяц назад

Good idea,but the result is calcium acetate not sodium acetate. CA can be bought on Amazon and Ebay.

@billybaker7071 3 года назад

Hey Hiram, you said that you are looking for different kinds of cans to mix up your gelled fuels in. I took an Altoids tin, filled it with diatomaceous Earth and denatured alcohol. It boiled a cup of water in four minutes. The tin has an easy open lid that can be reused and you just close it to extinguish the flames. Try it, you'll like it.

@koningbolo4700 Год назад

I used the sterno cans, cleaned them out, stuffed them with rockwool, jammed a stainless steel mesh on top inside the hole and filled it with ethanol...works great. In fact the Origo boat/camper ethanol stoves use a simular principle with a 1.2 L "landmine" style tank in them which supposedl;y burns for 10 hours... In my country they sell these stainless steel holders which you can set a sterno can inside of and have an adjustable chaffing dish burner... I use one of those in a repurposed gas oven (which I stripped out the gas parts, insulated it very well to use in my camper van. Also a great thing to use...gets nice and hot, cooks anything I can cook in the house with an oven, even bread and pizza... great thing to have.

@GL0RYaD347H 8 лет назад

Hi this is what i did: I have an empty tin from some paint which looks almost like sterno tin, so i´ve just tucked in some toilet paper and added alcohol. Easy, cheap and fully functional :)

@jd4364 2 года назад

I saw that technique on another channel and that is really cool. The only problem is that the alcohol is so thin, it is easier for it to spill and cause a fire hazard. That's why I started looking into this option instead.

@Choreografilm 9 лет назад

Hi, re. the polymer only absorbing after 4 days, and not burning: all commercially available liquid alcohol fuels contain a small percentage of water, so what has most likely happened is that after 3-4 days all the alcohol has evaporated, and the polymer has absorbed the water content of the fuel gradually as the alcohol has evaporated. As a result you get some, but a much smaller amount, of absorption, as there was less water to begin with (than when you add an equal amount of pure water). Naturally the water won't burn, so all you will get is a little crackle from the impurities in the polymer, and any dirt and dust that might have accumulated in the container etc.

@AaronBatteenA3 9 лет назад

My guess is that the crystal absorbed whatever water content was in the alcohol, and the alcohol evaporated.

@njchris9654 10 лет назад

Thanks for the experimental testing! I wanted to try this for a long time but never got the time to do it. At least we now know the polymer will not absorb the alcohol in a sufficient matter and then it won't light. Great test!

@Marijuana_Marmalade 8 месяцев назад

Those crystals don't absorb alcohol. I'm pretty sure When he put those crystals in the alcohol the alcohol also absorbed a bunch of water out of the air, And then over the next 4 days all the alcohol evaporated away leaving just a little bit of water which the crystals then absorbed.

@Seamus3051 8 лет назад

Thanks for the pearlite tip. Have been looking for something that would act as a wick. Your channel is really very informative. .....thanks.

@Ranger98837 8 лет назад

Polymers are substances whose molecules have high molar masses and are composed of a large number of repeating units. There are both naturally occurring and synthetic polymers. Among naturally occurring polymers are proteins, starches, cellulose, and latex.

@stevenhs8821 3 года назад

And they have a lot of mers.

@dr.froghopper6711 2 года назад

@@stevenhs8821 Yukyukyuk!

@vivianastridge2167 9 месяцев назад

A very interesting video. I live in a third world country and cooking gas is very expensive only second to electricity. Methanol is relatively affordable and it occurred to me that this could be used in a proper cooking stove. I have seen videos of marine stoves that use some material that absorbs the fuel and then burns with a steady blue flame. I have also seen a video where kieselghur is used to absorb the fuel and then allows the fuel to burn steady and in a controlled manner. The stove illustrated was tiny not enough for a cooking stove. Do you have any information on using this kieselghur with alcohol in a proper cooking stove?

@emocpa1 9 лет назад

I refilled a burnt out sterno can with 91% isopropyl alcohol and after 4 hours it was still burning. My can had 2 lids and I burned through the smaller lid. I did not remove anything from the used up can, just added the alcohol to whatever medium remained in the sterno can. I filled the can to the top of the remaining medium and let it settle, then added more to fully saturate the medium before I used it. It seemed to use about 6 ounces or so of the 91% alcohol. Wait for the bubbles to release after filling. That way you know the medium is pretty well saturated. I did not try the lower grade % alcohols.

@walkerone9833 10 месяцев назад

Miss you Hiram. Fyi, I have reused the M-71 can with just denatured alcohol for well over 20x. Still doesn't leak. I do not store the fuel in it however.

@coburnlowman 2 года назад

Thank You for the video. Every time seeing that stuff I'd think about this , and then forget about trying it🙄. Now I know.

@hugbearsx4 7 лет назад

MAYBE it took 4 days for the alcohol to evaporate and then the silica(?) absorbed whatever water was diluted into the alcohol and left over...

@AnthonyLombardo-cool 9 месяцев назад

No to the methacrylate, similar to diaper absorbent. You will dehydrate the polymer crystals, water is not the same as alcohol, alcohol will suck out the water and if you burn it, it will give off a black soot smoke, just like burning plastic. burning alcohol requires a hot wick to keep the flame on. The polymer will unlikely work.

@TheHebrewidow 5 лет назад

$ store hands sanitizer work like denatured alcohol. Learned from yt:7 TRUMPET prepper and it worked. I mixed it with rubbing alcohol, and that worked too.

@embaradosmithingandwoodcraft 10 лет назад

hiram try mixing diatotomatious earth with alcohal add enough earth make a paste works good and when burned out add more alcohal only give a stir and back to paste

@tedc7714 Год назад

50 years ago fishing we poured gasoline in a coffee can full of dry sand. , it burns a long time outside. Just the fumes coming up. We even piled sand around the can, or Sat in a hole and shoved sand around it.

@user-un6uv4xs6v 5 месяцев назад

i think matbe you could use faux snow to absorb the alcohol as well . not sure if that is a plastic ...

@robertphelps573 5 лет назад

Hiram try hand sanitzer as your gelled fuel I think you gonna like it

@sanjuanwin 2 года назад

Hiram! Thanks for this direction. I was stoked to have made a nice slushy batch from these instructions and was planning to pre-fill a bunch of cans. However, when I returned the mass was quite liquified. Do you know what might cause this? In one of your posts you had a week-old batch that appeared to have been stored in an airtight container. My batch did indeed have the air-tight lid on. It was made with 95% EA, natural, because I am a perfumer and I keep literally gallons of it around. Help?

@cr0cket01 9 лет назад

works with methylated spirits as well i know as i had some gell tins that dried up and not light but added some meths the blue one is full gell and setting nice he red one is still runny but gelling up.

@kentaylor3087 4 года назад

I thought you were gonna give us a formula for making a gel....any suggestions on maybe an older vid....thanks

@lionelyork4960 4 года назад

You Can find an easy formula on the yt chanel 'Beals science' with egg shells (or chalk) and vinegar and after méthanol.

@darcyleepearson4416 8 лет назад

im from the uk and i use golden syrup cans x

@daphneraven6745 Год назад

Darcy Leepearson: I’ve seen those in Canada as well. Those are a fantastic idea. I’ve got some paint cans here, but I bought them for something else that I’m working on. It seems to me that if anybody wants to use one of those but he’s concerned about the coating that goes on them, it might be worth looking up to find out what’s in that coding, and the other thing that occurs to me is that if that person was less than impressed with the contents and didn’t want to use it in the house, it might be possible to just burn it off outside, To make it more acceptable for indoor use. Just a thought.

@vincentleeadams Год назад

I’ve come into possession of hundreds of 12 ounce gelled alcohol containers, hand-disinfectant, and I was wondering if they can be used as cooking fuel?

@awatt 9 месяцев назад

I used hand sanitizer gel as fuel when they were giving it away for free due the the pandemic and it worked quite well. I used a small wood burning stove that had a dish for jelled fuel but any sort of open container will do.

@rickwheeler978 Год назад

Those watering crystals are highly toxic acrylic polymers. They're used commercially as a layer underneath paved roads to keep the ground from shifting and cracking cement every time the humidity changes from underneath. It is highly questionable whether they are even healthy for plants, as all of the testing done with plants ended before plants gradually absorbed the Toxin. All plants are robust at first and then slowly die at their own rates. Interestingly enough, mushroom mycelium will never grow directly into them. I'm pleased to know that it has some level of effective fire resistance but only because burning that garbage would be extremely bad for anyone nearby, as acrylic fumes are poison ☠ Great channel. I'm curious to know if you've ever experienced with Graphine as an additive. It gives off Infrared heat in response to heat all sources, amoung a great many other things far to numerous to list here. One might think of it as pure Carbon on steroids 🌋

@richrock8960 2 года назад

Hi Hiram, I was just going back thru your videos after some years looking for some answers to a few questions. I was just wondering if you could do this same type of thing with silica gel and alcohol. I kind of thought not. I have about a half a case of Sterno chafing dish warmers that are filled with ethanol and use a fiberglass wick but have a screw top not the kind you pry off and was thinking about refilling and using them with different types of fuels, mainly for emegency power outages.

@KE4VVF 10 лет назад

Thanks Hiram.

@duck42069 9 месяцев назад

And wonder if those water beads would suck up alcohol

@cdgarvin53 7 лет назад

Hiram, Do you know how to get the gelled fuel to become more solid? Thinking of something that I can pour into an ice cube tray and have it set-up as a block.

@kiimmig2293 2 года назад

I remember watching a show about a fireman that noticed at a building fire (daycare I think) that he noticed the pile of diapers were not burning. Pretty sure the jell absorbent in diapers is the same as soil moist. Anyways the fireman developed some kind of thing out of the crystals. Sorry don’t remember much more

@awatt 9 месяцев назад

I can't remember exactly what is in them other than it being a polymer. Maybe PET?

@robertbowen2075 6 лет назад

You probably used a lower % IPA solution. 80% IPA is 20% water. When you mixed this with your polymer it absorbed the 20% water and then you waited a few days for the alcohol to evaporate.

@duck42069 9 месяцев назад

I keep trying, and it doesn’t work, I’m confused

@anthonyvasquez6962 9 лет назад

nice videos hiram

@dougbarabe7861 3 года назад

I have some 25 year old sterno ,,, in the small silver can ,, " long story " ,, they don't work , you light them and they quit ,,, any advice to get um going again ?

@galenlong3106 10 лет назад

Hiram; Can you use the perlite or even the Gelled alcohol fuel in a trangia type stove? Maybe not the trangia itself but self reliance outfitters has their new stainless steel alcohol stove, and I was thinking it might work in it........... Be an interesting thing to figure out.

@jmr13z 10 лет назад

Trangia is a tried and true in its current design, but have you put pearlite in that type of stove. I wonder if it could fix the cracking problem.

@kentaylor3087 4 года назад

oh heck never mind I just found your other vid.....thank you

@jasonnyc2006 8 лет назад

Can you use 90 proof vodka or alchohol or more?

@joygambino13 7 лет назад

Jason Miller no

@pearlllllgarcia 6 лет назад

Some use 190 proof Everclear in a alcohol stove

@ACdrums1 6 лет назад

I have an older ceramic food warmer setup that has small, almost teacup size containers on the bottom, two per side. Can i remove the jell from the sterno can and just fill these metal containers ?

@johnhoward7298 4 года назад

Do You know of an achol stove ( diy ) that either burns very low & slow ? All it has to do ( for Me is heat up can of soup & make ramen noodles ) and not set off fire alarm

@robaldridge6505 2 года назад

Hiram, where are you ??

@kerryward6896 8 лет назад

DAMN MUSIC POLICE ! WHO NEED THEM ?

@1558k 8 лет назад

The sterno firsstarter efill - is it the same consistency as the canned sterno?

@macartancaughey9993 4 года назад

Hi Hiram when you say Denatured Alcohol do you mean mentholated spirits because i searched for Denatured Alcohol and got mentholated spirits that is what we use to light the tilley lamps with years a go

@georgecurtis6463 4 года назад

If you live in calif they outlawed denatured alcohol. Go look for the yellow plastic bottles of heet in the chemical section of the automotive section. Just about the same thing.

@jondoe5151 Год назад

WOW 😲 is this for real not thumbs down 👎 this video really suc

@MrHiramCook Год назад

Wow! Why don't you tell me how you really feel? I guess that takes away from the other 714 thumbs up I got.🤣

@awatt 9 месяцев назад

All interactions 👎 or 👍 and comments will raise a video in the algorithm so OP good job in promoting this video.

@cavemanl2156 10 лет назад

Harlem in world war 1 war 2 soldiers put sand in ther helmets with some sort of fuel to cook their food or heat it up

@stinkyfinn6977 7 лет назад

caveman l I'm not totally sure, but I think it might have been petrol\gasoline they used in the helmet

@stevenhs8821 3 года назад

Isn't that the same stuff used in disposable diapers?

@songslinger1 7 лет назад

How about doing a video when you have answers and are not confused?

@davidbivens2246 2 года назад

ARE YOU TO OR FROM? MASTER HIRAM.

@MrHiramCook 2 года назад

To or from where?

@laurawhite533 5 лет назад

what about the inside of diapers

@markthomasson5077 3 года назад

Works well, but a bit smelly if used in the tent porch

@LValyssajonesLV 8 лет назад

no one seems to answer the only question I have. are diy alcohol fuels safe to cook directly over (such as roasting marshmallows)

@RandomHoboization 6 лет назад

Alyssa Jones I remember doing this with them as a child but I don't remember if it was the gel or wick but my dad used them to roast marshmallows. I say try it. I didn't die

@UrgenthelpwithSubscriptionsHel 5 лет назад

Alcohol burning its safe, non-toxic

@daphneraven6745 Год назад

Alyssa McDonald: your comedy sort of old, but denatured alcohol burns without residue. Other alcohols might not. If you’re using a pot you can always cook, because it never comes into contact with any part of the flame. But if you want to roast food, that’s generally done over coals, not over flames. In the case of denatured alcohol, that might not matter since there’s actually absolutely no residue. But from almost anything else, you’re looking at ending up with a coating of soot or residue on the food that you would be consuming.That could be particularly bad in the cases of certain fuels..