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What is the purpose of the perlite in the stove? 

Hiram Cook
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On my video, "CanteenShop GrillTop Stove Stand - Sterno can refilled with Perlite - Boil Test - Reloaded" BluegrassBushcraft asked, "This may be a stupid question but what is the purpose of the perlite in the stove?"
I think this is a pretty good question that I would address in this video.
Perlite is a type of volcanic glass that can be added to soil to improve it's condition and also used in hydroponics as a medium so it's usually available at most garden centers or hardware stores. It's pretty cheap too.
MatoNupai partially answered BluegrassBushcraft when he commented, "It absorbs the alcohol the way a wick of carbon felt (welding blanket) or fiberglass holds onto the fuel."
I prefer to use perlite over fiberglass insulation because it doesn't seem to melt or fuse when the alcohol runs out. There are times I choose perlite over carbon felt/fiber because it's cheaper and sometimes easier to use in odd shaped burners.
Perlite absorbs the alcohol so that if the burner, especially if it's an open top burner, tilts the alcohol isn't so apt to just spill out.
The perlite brings the alcohol to the top of a burner so that there is a bit smoother flame. Without the perlite in an open top stove the flames can be burning down in the burner making for a bit hectic flame. With the flames up at the top of the burner the burner itself will stay a little cooler as you will see from the two burners I use in the demo.
So when it comes to wicking my choices usually are carbon felt/fiber and then perlite.
I thank BluegrassBushcraft for question and I hope this video helps,
I thank MatoNupai for his comment,
and I thank you all for watching my videos,
Hiram
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@oldgeekster1
@oldgeekster1 10 лет назад
Perlite also serves as a very good heat insulator, used to fill the area between cans in a home-made rocket stove. Thanks Hiram!
@RiverBendSurvival
@RiverBendSurvival 10 лет назад
Keep up the good work brother! It is an awesome resource to have someone like you testing and showing the result!
@mattcsencsics7805
@mattcsencsics7805 8 лет назад
hey hiram just happen to trip across this video and as a camper and a bit of prepper thank you very much for this video great information on here . keep up the good work and thank you.
@rlewis1946
@rlewis1946 8 лет назад
Great tip on getting the flame higher in the can! New sub. Roy
@jude7321
@jude7321 4 года назад
Thanks Hiram, I didn't know about perlite. God bless you real good 💕 🌿
@jamiesmith1343
@jamiesmith1343 5 лет назад
Thank you again for doing the research !Always great advice.😃
@jooster3107
@jooster3107 8 лет назад
the bad thing about a pointed plame is thwt it will create a very concentrated hotspot on your pan. if you use like a thin backpacking cooking set, where the pots are about 1/16th or so thick, youll burn the shit out of your food. the rest of the stuff are bonus's. i think if i were to use the perlite, i would shape the perlite like a cone, where the center is pushed down, and raised up around the sides inside the can. i would love for you to make s video testing this idea with the perlite
@montanaflytyer
@montanaflytyer 7 лет назад
That's pretty cool...I just learned how to solve a problem I have had with my stoves for 2 years!!! thanks! !!
@Bueller68
@Bueller68 5 лет назад
Thanks for the tip. Ive used perlite in other stove projects. It’s light weight and also acts as an insulator
@marcushennings9513
@marcushennings9513 3 года назад
Many R stoves are constructed with bricks or cement blocks right off the shelf so it's not a necessity to use perlite.
@IthBombgard
@IthBombgard 8 лет назад
Be careful when buying perlite from big box stores or hardware stores. It usually also contains fertilizers (like MIricleGro), which you probably don't want to be burning. Hydroponic stores carry the plain ol' perlite (NO additives) and is also A LOT cheaper there. Nice vid. Cheers!
@josarts5514
@josarts5514 7 лет назад
Ith Bombgard lekker
@sonyagriffy
@sonyagriffy 5 лет назад
Ith Bombgard Good to know. Thanks
@chawnslopoke2619
@chawnslopoke2619 5 лет назад
Great videos just stumbled across your channel and I've been looking for alternatives for heating my camper I've been using the fiberglass after using toilet paper. Never thought about pearlite
@sonyagriffy
@sonyagriffy 5 лет назад
This is a great video! Thank you for sharing.
@BluegrassBushcraft
@BluegrassBushcraft 10 лет назад
Thanks Hiram. Great informative video. Now that I've seen the video I guess it was just common sense. Thanks again. Atb. Robert
@Justchuck69
@Justchuck69 4 года назад
Your question was not stupid and now we all gain some knowledge ! I too thought it was only for the wicking effect .
@tom_olofsson
@tom_olofsson 5 лет назад
I learn something from you with each video.
@jasonloke2219
@jasonloke2219 2 года назад
Good simple video. Thanks for sharing!
@joepalermo3836
@joepalermo3836 5 лет назад
Excellent presentation ! 👍👍👍
@patsyoconner9506
@patsyoconner9506 7 лет назад
thanks very much for this video greetings from the UK
@dariomoreno2216
@dariomoreno2216 Год назад
Good job man is a good for people whom ignore many things. Grasias dude!!
@jeffspradlin5195
@jeffspradlin5195 8 лет назад
Good info. I'm gonna to try perlite in my penny soda can stove.
@christianfwilliams1
@christianfwilliams1 8 лет назад
Hey thats pretty cool. I was actually learning all this stuff for concrete design mix for fire. I needed a decent demonstration that helped me get my head around what happens with the addition of pearlite. So thanks very much. Ive give you vid a like. Chris. :))
@hjabcde
@hjabcde Год назад
Great words - I bought all of them they had in the store...
@sluggerease
@sluggerease 10 лет назад
would you be able to put perlite into the center of trangia type stove to help slow evaporation and extend burn time?
@FutzWith
@FutzWith 10 лет назад
Good, Video! If you put some stainless screen inside of the can on top of the perlite it could help keep the perlite in if the can tipped over. Later, FW.
@cawneyhawme7141
@cawneyhawme7141 3 года назад
Perlite has a high surface volume. Since the perlite has a bunch of tiny holes in it the alcohol has a larger surface area to cling to. That's why it's good for soil, it will trap water for plants.
@waynehead7271
@waynehead7271 5 лет назад
Great advice, but it left me wondering: Is there a difference in burn time with identical amounts of alcohol?
@Mandyblue1984
@Mandyblue1984 8 лет назад
Wow that was great. Thanks for sharing
@dorcasowens1210
@dorcasowens1210 3 года назад
Please do a side by side comparison of one with alcohol and one with lamp oil. The perlite is a great tip. Thanks.
@calvinmonroe2408
@calvinmonroe2408 2 года назад
Learn something new every day
@pamarledge2552
@pamarledge2552 7 лет назад
thanks for the vid, informative. Just a thought, have you ever used vermiculite in a stove, I know it is porous and will hold water. I wonder if it would change the burn rate, or maybe have more fuel capacity?
@cycletouringoz5760
@cycletouringoz5760 Год назад
We need Hiram back asap Hope you are well Brother
@a1930ford
@a1930ford 8 лет назад
What is the expected burn time for one of the cans with the same amount of alcohol, but with the Perlite added? In other words, how long can you use such a can for lighting or such?
@MrTangent
@MrTangent 7 лет назад
Great video. Question: scars on hand from burns or from psoriasis/eczema? Just wondering as I see it from to time in your videos.
@littlebritain64
@littlebritain64 3 года назад
Hi, one question: is perlite the same stuff as silica gel, used to absorb moisture from several boxed items? Thanks.
@terriavery2315
@terriavery2315 8 лет назад
kool dimo ,makes since---GOD BLESS ---jd avery
@polishpicl
@polishpicl 6 лет назад
We all be missing your videos......Ron
@anwaa2258
@anwaa2258 3 года назад
Hello! Can horticultural grade perlite be used for cooking? Thanks in advance!
@EyeOnHealth
@EyeOnHealth 10 лет назад
Can you check out times for the RUCAS. ALCOHOL STOVE COMPARED TO THE PATHFINDER STAINLESS STEEL STOVE?
@lancerudy9934
@lancerudy9934 6 лет назад
Very help thanks.
@brianmccann666
@brianmccann666 7 лет назад
So Pearlite in used Sterno Containers is a good idea ? Looking for ideas, and this seems like a good one.
@crazysquirrel9425
@crazysquirrel9425 2 года назад
Can you do a time and boil test please? Perlite is used in concrete as an insulator. Can the perlite container hold more alcohol than what you poured into it thus making it burn longer? Or was it saturated? I wonder what happens if you put perlite into the fill part of a Trangia.
@yasseralotaibi4485
@yasseralotaibi4485 4 года назад
Can you do firelogs project I really like the way you explain things
@The.Alabama.Woodsman
@The.Alabama.Woodsman 6 лет назад
Nice job.
@maryannbecksted1939
@maryannbecksted1939 5 лет назад
Very nice thanks much!
@bobjohnson5486
@bobjohnson5486 5 лет назад
Excellent. Thank you. 🍺
@anthonymorelli67
@anthonymorelli67 2 года назад
So,would your burner be something like a Swedish M71 military burner,they look about the same size.
@Diana-wg1tm
@Diana-wg1tm 6 лет назад
I have a gel fire place can I use it in there
@anthonymarino4260
@anthonymarino4260 8 лет назад
thanks for the info
@mikwashington7236
@mikwashington7236 2 года назад
How long does the stove burn or what is the ratio of burn time based on the amount of alcohol used
@bunniejatkowski9759
@bunniejatkowski9759 5 лет назад
Does the perlite or carbon fiber help the gelled fuel last longer
@momofsix2010
@momofsix2010 2 года назад
Besides using Perla and tin cans have you made a table top stove with perlite
@deborahdurham9249
@deborahdurham9249 6 лет назад
thanks cause I want to make some of these.
@mariadelmargilgonzalez255
@mariadelmargilgonzalez255 5 лет назад
It is so....the perlite is very important......I have got a DIY alcohol stove and off course with something similar as perllite....saludos de BILLIG CAMPER desde Alemania.
@jasonnyc2006
@jasonnyc2006 8 лет назад
Which is better, carbon felt or 6) Perlite, Carbon Felt, or Bio Ethanol Ceramic Wool Wick Sponge?
@rowanmulvey8632
@rowanmulvey8632 6 месяцев назад
I like the perlite for simmering rather than a superfast hot burn
@tlu99
@tlu99 Год назад
Thank you. Does it work with kerosene, too?
@watong9232
@watong9232 8 лет назад
Informative. Thanks. Do you think diatomaceous earth would work similarly?
@tomcatt1824
@tomcatt1824 4 года назад
U stole my thought, im gonna try it.
@acorn4122
@acorn4122 5 лет назад
Hey zeolite does pretty much the same thing so what I'm wondering is this could I use Pearl Light to produce regular clean O2 like if I were to replace the molecular sieves in my concentrator with the Pearl Light That should work the same I would assume or am I wrong I would love to get your input great video
@fromtheflightdeck252
@fromtheflightdeck252 5 лет назад
Absolutely
@alhumble8175
@alhumble8175 Год назад
Does one burn longer than the other? Thanks
@suemcfarlane4199
@suemcfarlane4199 7 лет назад
You can buy purlite in big bags as well
@mohlateef1037
@mohlateef1037 7 лет назад
sir how i get perlite at home
@bodgerdavesumner
@bodgerdavesumner 4 года назад
Has anyone tried "Roxul" spun rock insulation?
@angelanelson2619
@angelanelson2619 3 года назад
What is ratio alcohol to perlite!!! Ty!!!!
@Diana-wg1tm
@Diana-wg1tm 6 лет назад
How long will it burn
@markraciborski4289
@markraciborski4289 2 месяца назад
Mull item list. Wool vs. carbon felt. Find some discounted wool yarn? Squeeze, stuff it into an alcohol stove, cut a wire mesh dome cap to go over it? "Wool is classified as a flame-resistant fabric. The textile is flammable, but it has to reach at least 1,058 degrees Fahrenheit, to ignite. The material has high water and nitrogen contents in its cells which means if it did ever catch on fire, once removed from the source of the heat, it would self-extinguish the flame.” Perlite can suck up four times its weight in water, vermiculite up to sixteen times its weight. Vermiculite sourced from one place In the US used to have asbestos in it, I'm not sure if for plants, it's still being sold. Old Vermiculite insulation had it in it. Pill bottle disc, made of vermiculite.... The Vermiculite pill bottle disc each hold 1 ounce of fuel, you use two, they work best with the pot, pan sitting on the disc. Either 2 stacked, or 2 side by side. You want to rest the pot, cup on the stones. You eliminate the top surface as a burn surface because of the pot on it, the fuel burning from sides, it's more like your gas stove in the house. It appears to provide more of a blue flame, then having the pot located over the stones, top burning.
@Ra-zor
@Ra-zor 5 лет назад
Could you use Vermiculite? From its composition it seems to be able to withstand 1300c (2370f) and hold 3 to 4 times its volume with liquid! and is lighter than perlite. I have not tried Vermiculite as I don't know if it produces any gases, but they seem to use it in pizza ovens and as bricks in some wood burners... anyone tried it?
@recyclebills
@recyclebills 5 лет назад
Vermiculite and Perlite are both made by grinding rocks into dust and heating the dust until it pops like pop corn. While they are different minerals, the biggest difference is basically that Perlite is heated by volcanoes and Vermiculite is heated in furnaces until it pops like pop corn. Vermiculite is used in fireproofing and refractory insulation so I see no concerns with replacing Perlite with Vermiculite.
@crazysquirrel9425
@crazysquirrel9425 2 года назад
Another issue is that the perlite occupies space that fuel would otherwise occupy thus shortening the burn time.
@dianenordstrom2770
@dianenordstrom2770 3 года назад
What a great idea! The directed flame with the perlite is less wasteful and heats food and water faster. Would sand work as well? Have lots of that, but no perlite yet.
@MrHiramCook
@MrHiramCook 3 года назад
Yes sand does work. I did a video here I dug some sand out of a creek bank.
@QuantumPyrite_88.9
@QuantumPyrite_88.9 9 лет назад
Thanks
@kevinkuelper4339
@kevinkuelper4339 4 года назад
How much do you put in
@notadmblnd
@notadmblnd 5 лет назад
you can ask the dollar store to order the candles for you or even try going out to their website online and order them yourself.
@sambarton202
@sambarton202 5 лет назад
Could fire place rope seal be used for wick?
@AdirondackAmerican
@AdirondackAmerican 5 лет назад
Sam Barton I bet it could. That stuff doesn’t burn and would certainly wick fuel.
@lmelkins22
@lmelkins22 8 лет назад
Hello, I was wondering... When the alcohol burns out does the perlite start burning or does it just go out and remain the white color? Thank you ;-) Great video as usual...
@Frantic618
@Frantic618 8 лет назад
No. The perlite has already been exposed to temperatures ranging from 1,560 to 1,650 °F (850-900 °C), and your little stove isn't going to get near even near that. A steel can will probably melt before there's any change to the perlite. It's finished. When the alcohol burns out, just refile it with alcohol, indefinitely.
@lmelkins22
@lmelkins22 8 лет назад
Thank so much ;-)
@thomasv9760
@thomasv9760 6 лет назад
I looked perlite up on Wikipedia and I saw that you can get very fine or coarse so I was just wondering what is better to use, coarse or fine grind perlite. thanks
@accountantintraining4752
@accountantintraining4752 6 лет назад
Thomas V It depends on what you need it for: gardening, stove making, experiment etc. what is the reason to want perlite?
@fromtheflightdeck252
@fromtheflightdeck252 5 лет назад
Coarse
@tomcatt1824
@tomcatt1824 4 года назад
@@accountantintraining4752 we R talking stove's here
@jayceandjeremysadventures.4441
Would Perlite work as a wick for a Fancy Feest stove?
@Frantic618
@Frantic618 8 лет назад
Any kind of small can will do: any cat food or tuna can, a cut-down aluminum beer can, a soup can, etc.
@jasonnyc2006
@jasonnyc2006 8 лет назад
How do you make bio ethonol alchohol fuel? Can you use moonshine from corn/other?
@pearlllllgarcia
@pearlllllgarcia 7 лет назад
People use Everclear 190/95% for stoves.
@tomcatt1824
@tomcatt1824 4 года назад
@@pearlllllgarcia$ expensive $ i'd rather drink it.
@aparecidomiranda6637
@aparecidomiranda6637 3 года назад
👍👍🇧🇷 Parabéns
@MrWmburr7
@MrWmburr7 7 лет назад
You might remember the old "Soupy Sales" kid show from the fifties. I grew up watching him on TV. He had two so-called "dogs" on the show (named White Fang and Black Tooth) which were nothing more than two long hairy arms of guys on the set clawing the air as they talked to Soupy in grunt and growls. Here's why I bring this up: we never see your face. All we see are your two hands clawing the air, and so help me . . . all I can think of are those two arm puppets talking to Soupy. It brings back a lots of fond memories from my childhood watching your informative demonstrations. Thanks :-)
@stevenweir9437
@stevenweir9437 7 лет назад
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Had a hard time finishing the video! Laughing too hard!
@robaldridge6505
@robaldridge6505 2 года назад
it adds more surface area for the alcohol to burn on
@glynn2023
@glynn2023 5 месяцев назад
This is exactly what I wondered to…
@MrHiramCook
@MrHiramCook 5 месяцев назад
Glad I was able to help
@censusgary
@censusgary 3 года назад
Could you just stuff a rag in the can to act as a wick?
@indracahya833
@indracahya833 5 лет назад
Can perlite be replaced by other sand?
@griffinsmithish
@griffinsmithish 5 лет назад
Sand could probably work, but perlite is superior because it is extremely lightweight. It feels, weight-wise, like Styrofoam.
@tomcatt1824
@tomcatt1824 4 года назад
@@griffinsmithish i tryed sand, it works but heavy, stick with perlite
@Jimusmc0311
@Jimusmc0311 Год назад
I've seen a diaper interior ripped into small pieces and alcohol.. I never tried it
@Kevin-px3gk
@Kevin-px3gk 8 месяцев назад
And also some things to be said about simplicity...
@debbiej.2168
@debbiej.2168 10 месяцев назад
Can you use vermiculite instead?
@a.w.thompson4001
@a.w.thompson4001 6 месяцев назад
Another poster said yes above.
@josephdupont
@josephdupont 6 лет назад
How much alcohol do you use per meal.
@fromtheflightdeck252
@fromtheflightdeck252 5 лет назад
25ml
@tomcatt1824
@tomcatt1824 4 года назад
I normally drink 1 or 2 16oz cans with my meal.😃. 🍺 .
@Drunkencat007
@Drunkencat007 9 лет назад
So are the burn times the same between the perlite and the alcohol tins? Was thinking the perlite tins should have a longer burn time.
@Frantic618
@Frantic618 8 лет назад
Why would it be longer? Nothing has changed -- it's just the alcohol burning. If there is a one-eighth cup of alcohol in each can, it should burn for the same length of time.
@a.w.thompson4001
@a.w.thompson4001 6 месяцев назад
Another channel timed and compared. Perlite seemed to help stove burn alcohol hotter and longer!
@dartarkana4279
@dartarkana4279 5 лет назад
What's wrong with just using regular sand
@griffinsmithish
@griffinsmithish 5 лет назад
Sand is heavy. Perlite is very lightweight.
@63viet
@63viet 9 лет назад
What type of alcohol?
@MrHiramCook
@MrHiramCook 9 лет назад
Vy Chi Denatured alcohol.
@mike-rayner-videos
@mike-rayner-videos 7 лет назад
great video :) would you believe.. in the UK it's known as Methylated Spirits... Lol
@pearlllllgarcia
@pearlllllgarcia 7 лет назад
Campers recommend SUNNYSIDE CORPORATION 1-Quart Denatured Alcohol Solvent as one of the most clean burning brands.
@oldgary57
@oldgary57 8 лет назад
have you ever tried Rockwool?
@Frantic618
@Frantic618 8 лет назад
Why don't you try it and let us know? I've heard that one of the reasonst that Rockwool (aka Mineral Wool) is good for home insulation is because water just rolls of the surface and isn't absorbed. If it does that with alcohol, I can't see it being very useful for the application.
@oldgary57
@oldgary57 8 лет назад
OK, I tried it, and the Rockwool did burn, It was old and used so it could have been nutrient (plant fertilizer) that was burning. There are so many easy ways to make a stove out in the field, and so many litterbugs that it would be difficult not to have a stove as long as you have fuel. Did you ever notice that the intermission music for the Olympics is from the old T,V, show "Brisco County, JR".
@accountantintraining4752
@accountantintraining4752 6 лет назад
My soil comes with perlite and I need to destroy eggs of mites in my soil so I searched that people sterilize potting mix, potting soil in oven to rid of certain pests.
@accountantintraining4752
@accountantintraining4752 6 лет назад
But, no I have never tried it before. I'm watching your video to decide should I place my garden soil in a 180 degree oven with peat moss and coconut coir.
@jude7321
@jude7321 4 года назад
Hi Hiram, I have another question for you. Does the Perlite put off any toxic fumes or smoke? God bless you Hiram, real good 💕 🌿
@villageofbastards.
@villageofbastards. 3 года назад
No, it doesn't. It is inert.
@jude7321
@jude7321 2 года назад
Thank you so much, I love you Hiram. God bless you so big!✝️🥀🐎 Jesus is gathering the angels for battle. Be ready. Here's a hug for ya 🤗
@SittingWolfParanormal420
@SittingWolfParanormal420 Год назад
Rest in peace hiram unless I'm wrong but I don't think I am sadly
@mattcarolina
@mattcarolina 6 лет назад
Thanks for the tip, I had to hit the like to get you off the 666 number of likes!
@gregg4
@gregg4 8 лет назад
He seems to have a red stain on his right hand. Did he burn himself?
@amberrose1108
@amberrose1108 7 лет назад
What in the world in perlite?
@recklessroges
@recklessroges 7 лет назад
Explained in the video.
@Micscience
@Micscience 9 лет назад
I am not sure that the can with the perlite was burning at a lower temperature. In metal casting many hobbiests use perlite as an insulation and it holds the heat in from escaping sort of like insulation as in a house so it would make sense that the outside of the can was a cooler temperature. So basically in a nutshell perlite acts as a high heat insulator. Good video by the way good luck!
@Frantic618
@Frantic618 8 лет назад
I agree. Also, Mr. Cook seemed to be aiming at the BOTTOM of the cans, which I didn't understand. You'll notice that the flame from the perlite was a steady blue, and the other can showed yellow, which can be a sign of incomplete combustion. A better test might have been boiling a measured amount of water over each can, and noting which one boiled first.
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 4 года назад
@@Frantic618 i think he just was testing to see if the can got really hot, which could burn the surface it's resting on.
@jackroche9939
@jackroche9939 9 лет назад
In case anyone wanted these types of tins you can get(to my eyes, at least) the exact same thing from Specialty Bottle. I'm in no way affiliated with them, but I bought a few of them from there a while ago, and oddly enough saw this video. There's probably much cheaper ways to get them, but this is the only one I'm aware of. Hopefully this helps someone, if not then at least I have my pudding. www.specialtybottle.com/tincontainersmi.aspx
@tomcatt1824
@tomcatt1824 4 года назад
I used de can's that rifle pellets come in, with pearlite & ss screen 2 hold pearlite in, works prett darn good 2
@izzimichaels2892
@izzimichaels2892 9 лет назад
am i the only one who noticed what appears to be burn scars all over this gentleman's hand?
@yacrafter
@yacrafter 10 лет назад
Hiram, we all know you're not cheap...you're just thrifty. Lol, good show
@frankthetank481
@frankthetank481 9 лет назад
Am I the only one that saw Jesus' face in the perlite burner?
@lalalajuice
@lalalajuice 9 лет назад
frankthetank481 -.-
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