When I was cleaning out the family homestead 17 years ago, I pulled a box of these wire loops from the attic along with the strapping tool. They were for an odd size hose like 1-1/4 OD. The wire loops were a thick stiff wire like coat hanger wire. I saw no need to hold on to them and the junk man got them. Maybe I should have held on to the strapping tool. If I did hold on to it, it would be up in my attic with all the other stuff salvaged from the family homestead! Never ending! As always, thanks for sharing you educational video. KenS
4GSR Yes, I would’ve held onto both the strapping tools and the wire clamps because they are some of the best clamping solutions for hoses (like garden hoses) that you can find. I’ve always wondered how these were made. What did the strapping tool look like?
@@ravenbarsrepairs5594 yes, I found this out sometime ago and purchased one. They work pretty well, but like everything else, needs practice to make them perfect.
Hello My Shop Teacher, I can tell you that about forty years ago my neighbor had the same tool which had a assortment of premade wire clamps untightened. This man had a collection of tools that would blow your mind. His man cave was over 12 K square feet. He had tools arranged according to different fields of application. I would just be amazed at the old stuff he had. Your video took me back all those years with an admiration for someone who had an addiction for tools. What a great way to enjoy life and pass away quietly. Good day and stay virus free my shop teacher. VF
Retired General mechanic here. We used that same type of tool, to clamp hoses of many sizes.. The clamps were purchased from the same supplier, until about 1990. Then we made them from galvanized fence wire of various gauges.... On a jig, that the pattern making shop designed. Ahhhh, the old days... gone but not forgotten.
Watching you fiddle around making something out of wire reminded me of my dad. He was amazing at making stuff out of wire. Bailin wire or fence wire, that's what they had so that's what they used.
THANK YOU!!! Growing up, I seen these clamps on everything you can imagine...cars, tractors, you name it...they were everywhere. I recall my Dad cussing out loud when he had to remove them. I NEVER knew how these were done until now. A flash back in time!!! THANK YOU TUBALCAIN. !!!!
I can't tell you how many times I have wished I had something like this and didn't even know it existed. I am a glass artist and make up my own hoses for the pressure pot that holds the sand. I always coat the barb with contact cement before inserting it into the hose and putting a hose clamp on it. These wire clamps would be a lot more secure and a lot more tidy than having to dremel off the flap end of the hose clamp. Man-o-man, if I'd only known.
I use these wire clamps all the time. There's a hand tool called 'clampit' that's used to apply it. It's best used with stainless wire. That makes it especially useful on a boat. Great for small diameter hoses too small for a screw clamp to be used. The more turns of wire around you take the stronger the clamp gets. I've used it in a pinch in applications over 50 psi. If you've got a boat you need the hand screw version of this tool in the tool box. Can be used for more than hoses. Need a quick eye splice in a wire rope or line. These will work.
I remember my father ( an industrial engineer ) in the 50’s using a special pair of piers that had holes drilled into the jaws and the piers would expand rather than clamp and they had on one side two pins that the same type of wire clamp that you showed would wraparound. Thus when closing the handles it would pull the clamping wire tight. I then believe he use wire cutters to trim the wire after rolling the plier heads around to finish the clamp. However his being an engineer and a good DIY person he made of altered a std. pliers to achieve this. His job was with Rayabestos Manufacturing in Passaic NJ where they made rubber hoses of all sizes and he brought home 50 foot garden rubber hose ( which I still have today ) so I think that’s where his clamping pliers originated! No help in finding the wire,long gone but I do remember those wire clamps o our rubber hoses. Love your channel since we are of similar ages and I followed my father in engineering degree.
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I have literally watched 20 homemade versions of a tie devices to do exactly the same clamp. None of them were any where near as graceful and elegant in design as the one you just posted. Thankyou for sharing.
I think a video series on how to make a device like this would guarantee a new life for this tool. 😀 I have a vague memory of the gas station where I would fill my bicycle tires as a kid had this on the air line.
Thank you Mr. Pete for keeping us (or at least me) educated! So much stuff is done electronically/robotically these days that I'm always impressed with seeing how it used to be done. My Father-in-law was a machinist in the days before CNC, and I'm grateful that he passed along his interest, and a bit of knowledge, before he passed away last year.
Interesting bench tool to say the least compared to the simpler hand tool today. It might even compete with Rube Goldberg designs. The simpler tool today can be used to clamp or bundle things together. It's basically a pursik knot made with wire.
I very much like that style of hose clamp over gear clamps any day of the week. There has been a couple of modern products made and advertised doing the same thing. I wouldn’t mind finding one of the tools, old or modern.
Very good demo. You are correct on the tension release using Bandit clamps ,made up 3/4 inch i.d..hoses with what is called CHICAGO coupling, working maintenance at a chemical plant lot of hoses wear out fast.
I found that wettening or lubing the wire just before tightening the wire loop helps the wire to straighten out better. A small straight screwdriver helps aligning the wires, no need to break off your fingernails.
That is a neat tool, the drawback is you have to be able to have the hose where you can fit it up in the fixture. It would be great for air hoses like you shown or any hose that has fittings that can be attached to the assembly.
If you look on YT for homemade wire clamp you'll find lots of very ingenious devices cobbled together from bolts and chewing gum. Has to be said, none are as well presented, entertaining or using such a well made gizmo as Mr Pete's. When I was a boy apprentice we used rolls of rubber sheet intended for patching dinghies to wrap cables while they were being worked on. The final sheath was a work of art and very permanent. Every night the cables were bound with paper and plastic then enclosed with adhesive backed rubber. The ends were then bound with wire clamps and the bag (which had a tyre valve in it) was inflated to keep the damp out. The guys would make clamps as required using the cable as the form.
Others mentioned Clamptite. I made my own, might be a fun video. Simple project and you can get the proper wire on Amazon, and probably lots of other places. Really fantastic tool.
Great tool. Good for a vice application. I have made a variation of the Clamptight tool using a turnbuckle, a wire tension tool. It is better as you can make hose clamps in place in tight situations. You can fiddle with the wire to make it look good as you tension the wire but do not touch it after.
Out of passing interest... most aircraft safety wire is stainless. Not sure off hand what specific alloy/s are used, but it's good stuff. For high temp applications it comes in Inconel & Monel, and a host of other materials for other specialized uses. Some common diameters are .020, .032 &.041, but many others are used as well.
A great tool, today people are just fitters they buy a clamp and fit it while back in the day the person fixed things. If you were far from a shop no problem things got fixed and the job went on.
When making the clamp, it's a lot easier if you wrap the wire around the mandrel leaving the tails short and the loop longer than the tails. This way there is no need to bend the tails to feed them under the loop. After the tails are inside the loop, simply continue wrapping the loop over the mandrel until it closes. The clamp could have 2 wraps for maximum holding or just one for simpler jobs.
Pretty cool tool, nice video!! I always hated how "gear clamps" have the tap sticking out after you tighten them...gets caught on everything. But gear clamps are removable and re-useable. The wire clamps are a one time deal
I used that type of clamp years ago . Tool was slightly different . Clamps were commercially available , sizes from one half inside diameter to two inch inside diameter . Clamped two inch diameter hose on resistance welding cables , filled with water and applied 100 pounds air pressure. Cables carried 10000 amperes of current with 50 to 90 pounds of water pressure flowing through cable. very few failures in course of use . Most failures were cut hose or broken conductors in cable . Would not use on tubing etc , force needed to make good seal would crush thin wall .
Mr. Pete, Thanks for the demonstration. I truly hate using the spiral band clamps available these days. They usually hold well if you buy true stainless steel but the usual type available at the box stores are just poorly plated. My main beef with them is the trailing end either snags your clothing or worse your hands as you maneuver the hose. I saw a video the other day where a guy was trying clamps used on PEX water lines for use on his air hose fittings. The jury is still out on how they hold up. I thing it was “Eddie the Grouch” that I was watching do that. I had thought about trying the PEX ring clamps when I needed to repair my own air hose recently but the tool to compress them was ninety bucks at Lowe’s. Kinda pricey for one fitting. I ended up using the band clamp and half a roll of electricians tape to control the sharp edges of the aggravating thing. Looks like crap but what are you gonna do?
I just googled Clamptite and came up with this. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-of9p70H7gdg.html Thank you SuperAWac for the heads up. I am ordering one right now.
I just watched a project making one, looks cool to me. (DIY Hose Clamp Wire Tension Tool for under $3.00) copy and paste in youtube search. Done w/simple tools, no machine shop needed.
Yes the pre-made clamps are still available in a range of sizes. The ones I have are galvanized wire and it's pretty soft. One other thing is you should rotate the knurled clamp the other way so it is self tightening on the wire. These clamps are capable of holding upwards of 1500 psi on the right hose. Once hammered down they travel smoothly through hose guides and reels unlike worm clamps that stick out on the side. They are used to this day on agricultural spray equipment.
The same type clamps are used in aviation. The latest iteration of this tool is sold as a "Clamp Tite Hose Clamp Tool" that can be bought on line. I found that a lot of people have copied this newer design and put their own spin on it. I did my own copying and am using aircraft stainless steel safety wire to make my pneumatic connections. The beauty with this clamping system I find, is that you dont get cut or bothered by the screw on a Tridon type hose clamp. The down side is if you have to remove one, you have to make a new one from scratch
That is an awfully neat tool. There are a few newer variations out on the market currently. I just finished making my own version of a "ClampTite" tool. Thank you for the video and demonstration.
Hi Lyle, look at that ratchet crank that is really neat on it. What a well built tool from 60 years ago. Well I come onto the shop floor airline fitting clamp that was a brass cylinder that pressed this brass down and around the rubber hose catching the threaded or ridged brass hose fitting, the tool was a two arm manual one with a base for the fitting size you desired a crimping tool if we might share, used to put these on in the machine shop all the time as airlines would get cut run-over by the fork lift or just wear out. Thank you for the nice share, Lance & Patrick.
Looks interesting... but as with the modern version/s so heavily hyped in fair booths, it would only useful if you have a 'loose' hose end to play with. There is no way that, or the modern versions could be used to install a clamp in typically found 'real world' confined quarters. Also, wire clamps tend to 'traumatize' rubber products & subject them to localized 'cold flow' issues. As much as they're hated, properly sized modern spring type band clamps really are state of the art... they distribute their load evenly & controlled over a larger area, and 'follow' the hose OD down as it compresses. Yes, I'm fully aware they're a pain to deal with down the road. I can already hear the thumbs down clicks...
Mr Pete u have been pretty ruff on that brass barb looks like a hammer and chisel mechanic had a worn out wrench on it and rounding the corners off on it. Just kidding Mr Pete we all need a good laugh thanks for all of ur video's I watch them all!
This device would have come in very handy in rural, farm settings for water, hydraulic and air hoses and fittings. Its versatile in that any dia clamp can be made. A while ago, I watched a "How to" clip on RU-vid where they showed wire clamps being made but using a different technique, and I think with no machine. I will try searching for it.
I have seen and tried a couple of the modern version of this tool the current ones are pocket sized. I’m told that these wire clamps meet USCoast Guard standard for boat hose requiring two clamps. The current systems all these custom-clamps so I don’t think these wire clamps were made very long and your bench tool looks to me like some other tools that I have seen in auto shops this is based on the light color they were intended to be for a small auto shop or farm shop. I think we had one in our tool-crib when I worked.
Except where you are trying to fit the hose connector into a confined space then this close fit clamp would be helpful. The worm style leaves a long tail that can give you a nasty cut and has to be trimmed and deburred. As you say, the worm style is usually the handier to use, but it would be helpful to have the wire type in the back of the tool box.
Great tool and great demonstration. .032 safety wire was pretty common in the airline mechanics jobs. I can remember using .051on JT3D nozzle guild vanes in the engine shop, very difficult to work with.
pretty cool. lower profile vs the screw type clamps, and probably cheaper to mfg; but you need a special tool. Now crimp bands are the thing, still need a special tool.
Those are not waste wires. They are "poor man's cotter keys." :-) Yeah, I know, some call that hoarding, and some call it "being cheap." Others would call it "being frugal." I call it the result of having a Father that grew up during the depression ... My father told me about a visit he had with a cousin during his teen years. They worked on the cousin's old jalopy and took it for a test drive. They happened on a jack rabbit, and started chasing it down the road because that was supper. About a mile down the dirt road, Orville commented "I'd go faster and get this done, but I've got only a 10 penny nail holding the right front wheel on."
it looks like a dandy tool, try it some dark night underneath your car fixing the lower radiatior hose. i have a clamptite but have found little use for it, might have to get it out and play with the tool
That is an "industrial" strength clamping tool. When I was working in mines, "scaling bars" would always have a rubber handle in the middle for secure handling. A piece of rubber was secured by two wire clamps. The wire used was rather thick, at 1 mm. I often wondered how it was done. Perhaps that was it ? By the way, a scaling bar is a steel bar with pointed end like a crow bar, but longer. Before one goes into a freshly blasted tunnel, it is absolutely necessary to use the bar to ply off any loose rocks to render the tunnel safe.
This tool sure makes quick work of it. I made my own wire clamping tool and have used home made wire clamps allot i really like them. Compared to modern hose clamps they are tidy and neat if you take your time also id think they apply more clamping force due to the wire having less surface aria than the modern clamps?
Is there no end to our "Mr Pete"? Huh? He just continues to dazzle us with his innate, unique talents from Jesus. Praise His Holy name. Now who does not like what Lyle does? I ask ye!
@@rodrod9353 -- Were you testing it clamped to straight pipe or to barbed fittings? I suspect that with barbed fittings it would hold pretty good if you get the wires in the grooves in the barbs.
@@jakeblanton6853 I don't think they can make a clamp strong enough to keep a hose attached to a straight pipe without some kind of barb on the end of the pipe. Ends of coolant hoses on a car have to pass over a raised ring so that the clamp can hold securely.
I’ve seen similar examples of this tool on RU-vid but it was good to go back into the patent records. Giving the inventor or his memory credit where its due. Regards
Really neat tool mrpete and your clamp making skills are pretty darn good too!! I see someone posted that these tools are still available ? I wouldn't mind having one. Thanks for all your hard work! Two Thumbs Up as Always!
There's a spinoff from the "What Is It" series where obfuscatory items' uses are expounded upon. The "How's It Work" series. Excellent presentation me thinks. All the best, -- Joe
I had some hot water pipes with foam insulation held on with ties wrapped in that configuration (previous owner),. However, the "bands" were thin, similar to bread bag ties, just longer.
When I saw that machine I thought that would be handy for making hose clamps, I just use pliers to make them myself for shaping, tightening and cutting and just hammer the ends down flush and what do you know that is what it is used for.
