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Making 9mm Pinfire Cartridges

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I found this Belgian pinfire revolver from the approximately the 1870's. In previous videos I showed an overview of this revolver and made the missing loading gate. In this video I demonstrate how I make the cartridges and then I shoot the revolver.
Overview video
• Belgian Pinfire Revolv...
Making the gate
• Making a Loading Gate ...
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All subjects featured on this channel are shown for historical and informational purposes only. All gunsmithing work is intended to restore the item to it's original condition, never modifying to serve any other purpose. In no way, shape or form is anything featured on this channel ever intended to be sold at any time. Any messages regarding selling a firearm, ammunition or an accessory will be removed. Everything shown is legal where the creator is located, please check your local laws.
00:00 Intro
02:09 Measuring
04:10 Case options
05:36 Case modifications
11:10 Pins
14:54 Test fit
16:05 Priming
18:57 Expanding
19:45 Powder
20:50 Wads
21:59 Bullets
23:00 Seating and crimping
25:16 Shooting

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5 авг 2024

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@firchkn7932 11 месяцев назад

Great video as always, I’ve got a 7mm pinfire, now I got a starting point . Thanks !!

@rakumprojects 11 месяцев назад

Good luck! If I ever find one I'd like a pocket revolver in 7mm

@cameroncraig7982 8 месяцев назад

.22 Hornet is a great starting case for 7mm pinfire, and there are eley factory drawings available online for pinfire cartridges that are a great reference! Good luck!

@Kev-N42000 8 месяцев назад

For my 12mm pinfire I used brazing rod to braze the hole shut and also used that same brazing rod cut into chunks to make the the firing pins

@Apollos77 5 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for making this video! I just bought a 9mm Belgian, so this will really help me get started.

@MB-nn3jw 9 месяцев назад

I first came across the initial pinfire restoration video, and stayed for all three. Great work.

@ironwolf1799 9 месяцев назад

This is my new favorite channel

@DEARERFOB771 5 месяцев назад

I have never nor will ever make this but I just love seeing your videos one of my favorite channels for sure

@Securitydude83 6 месяцев назад

What a labor of love. Nice work brother.

@russellcraven251 11 месяцев назад

Always enjoy your videos, thanks for sharing.

@cariboupetepeterson3711 10 месяцев назад

Great video. You are a talented craftsman! Well Done!

@kokorico5416 8 месяцев назад

Excellent work.Well done!

@earlearl8850 6 месяцев назад

Absolutely amazing. I had no idea how to reload a pin gun. Now I might get one. Thank you!

@thetriode 2 месяца назад

May I offer a thought? For the pins, take your lathe, grind a piece of HSS that will make the end profile what you want. Take your center and put a stop in it. Use a collet instead of your chuck (hopefully with a quick disengagement bar.) Feed the stock forward to the stop, then use the cutter to cut your pins. Make it so that one side is flat and the other is curved as required for making the rounded end. Absolutely incredible work by the way.

@rakumprojects 2 месяца назад

Great idea, that would certainly help speed production. I've been meaning to get some sort of collet chuck for the lathe to hold small parts such as the pins.

@johnnyholland8765 8 месяцев назад

I do some wildcatting of the old Sharps rounds where I have to make cases but you have taken it to another level. If I ever have need of pin fire bullets now I know how to make them. I would probably turn them from brass stock but your method seems to work well.

@alaskaruss1 9 месяцев назад

Truly enjoyed your video and your talents!!! ❤

@ol1guy994 5 месяцев назад

Thanks, great video

@tafino 5 месяцев назад

Amazing!!!🎉

@RabbitusMaximus 8 месяцев назад

nice job!!!

@bushpilot1074 6 месяцев назад

thank for your video , i juste bought a le faucheux , pocket like yours but in ,320 . but your loading pinfire video is excellent and intructive

@ExpLaser 3 месяца назад

Для заполнения отверстия капсуля можно попробовать использовать медную или латунную заклепку. Просто расклепать кусочек провода.

@nicktrueman224 7 месяцев назад

That is identical to mine, but mine was in the very low 9mm. It was awhile ago and measured something like 8.90mm approx. They are allot of fun.

@VS-ff4ez 5 месяцев назад

What an outstanding video! Well done sir. Have you ever chronographed your pinfire loads?

@rakumprojects 5 месяцев назад

I'll get a chance to this summer. Can't imagine them being very fast at all

@mrbyamile6973 6 месяцев назад

Great video, I had a good idea thats how a pinfire cartridge was made but excellent seeing it done. I might just own an old pin fire somw day, they intrigue me. Must be a very weak cartridge at 8 grains, I see why they evolved into a more modern cartridge. The history of firearm development is my interest.

@SilverSaxon 8 месяцев назад

Have you reloaded those cases multiple times? Any trouble removing the spent caps from inside the case? This is fascinating and I love seeing these old obsolete guns able to shoot again.

@rakumprojects 8 месяцев назад

Yes, I have some that have been reloaded a few times now. The only issue I've seen is that the hole for the pin gets looser, requiring nail polish to keep the pin in place. Other than that, no issues.

@Whofan91 11 месяцев назад

Incredible work, as always. I'm willing to bet you turned a head or two when you whipped it out at the range😊

@rakumprojects 11 месяцев назад

Yes! Everytime I shoot it I get at least a few questions

@Thecompanioncrate 10 месяцев назад

Funny enough the only commercially produced pinfire ammo I know of still made today is 2mm pinfire blanks (for tiny watch fob guns).

@apaput140 3 месяца назад

Eres un artista.

@nicktrueman224 7 месяцев назад

Oh I found a quicker solder solution you could use? I cut a strip of brass sheet about .8 or just 1mm, then I fluxed the plate face, not all the area but I fluxed and stood the precut brass tubing onto the plate and soldered say 6 at a time. I degreased all surface areas. I placed the strip on a nice flat hebal or use a jeweler's brick. And I found low melt pnt silver solder was very strong. Then you simply cut the gaps and remove excess brass with sharp cutters and remove excess completely off on the linersher. I used dowl that was tight and put it in the case for the linersher to sand off excess.

@barthanes1 4 месяца назад

That was involved. I think those rounds are worth about $50 each. Maybe more.

@hawssie1 2 месяца назад

my revolver appears very close if not identical to this one and after getting it was surprised to find that it was double action. Curious if yours is as well as I haven't seen you shoot it that way.

@gymntonic 2 месяца назад

Great work on the pin fire cases. Just curious how well they reload after firing?

@rakumprojects 2 месяца назад

The holes for the pins get looser over time, but the case itself and the solder hold up fine.

@deamoneater357 8 месяцев назад

There is or was a guy making reloading kits for pinfires.

@JandRJarmsandammo 11 месяцев назад

Excellent work, I do have a question that’s a little off topic.For bullet lube I’ve heard of bee wax and animal tallow,but not crisco. Did crisco work good as tallow?

@rakumprojects 11 месяцев назад

I don't have any experience with beeswax and tallow, I've always used beeswax and crisco. It seems to work well, it's hard to tell on the pinfire but in my black powder rifles the fouling cleans out very easily.

@Dani-pe2lt 7 месяцев назад

Good job!

@colint 9 месяцев назад

Instead of plumbers solder which is 50% lead 50% tin you should try Electronics solder which is 63% Tin and 37% Lead. This is harder/stronger. If you have a problem with the flash hole plug coming out then maybe using a drill to put a chamfer on the inside before you solder it will help. Also, filing anything with lead in it is a bad idea, you will get lead dust in the air and it's poisonous if ingested. Might also be safer to bell the case mouth *before* installing the primer/percussion cap.

@Geo64x 7 месяцев назад

He actually used lead free solder, not sure what composition it is though

@allanrichards3752 6 месяцев назад

A very interesting video. I have a pin fire revolver here in the UK as a wall hanger. They are legal antiques because it is assumed ammo for them is unobtainable however, you have proven that wrong. with the way you constructed the cartridges. I dare say it would be illegal for us to make the ammo to take them to the range though.

@JLHU-ks8ir 12 дней назад

no you can get a license for that

@lionheartz1337 6 месяцев назад

Now thaat you have a process how reasonable/expensive is it for you to load up for a day at the range? is it like a load the rounds one day shoot the next type of thing?

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

I don't shoot much in a session, I'll probably bring 20-30rds for this. Reloading the cases is cheap, normal 9mm cast bullets, percussion cap and a tiny charge amount

@robertrobert7924 9 месяцев назад

This was a great how to video and very relaxing to watch. I have been casting pure lead bullets this morning for black powder revolvers. I made a test paper cartridge using flash paper and flash glue, and a .44 Johnson & Dow bullet seated upon 30 grains of 3F Goex. I hope to shoot them in my Pietta 1860 Army and 1848 Uberti Whitneyville Dragoon later this month. I own a 7mm pocket pinfire revolver. My brother made brass cartridge tubes for me and dummy heeled aluminum bullets. I made the pins like you did and drilled the case holes. I did not make shootable cartridges because the 7mm cases are just too small to work with. You did a great job on your 9mm ones. Did your soldered Luger brass center holes hold up good enough to reload ?

@rakumprojects 9 месяцев назад

I've reloaded some cases 3-4 times now and the solder holds up no problem. Some of the pin holes do get looser though.

@robertrobert7924 9 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojects That is great. I had never seen solder used before. I have watched Dr. Durell Shepard fill centerfire holes with threaded brass bolt shafts and then drilling above to retrofit for rimfire.

@rakumprojects 9 месяцев назад

@@robertrobert7924 I've seen people do that for pinfires as well. Solder is much quicker though and holds up well enough, especially for small calibers where theres very little pressure

@robertrobert7924 9 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojects You have certainly proved that.

@plasma5545 9 месяцев назад

this is awesome but mechanically these bullets seem horribly tedious and impractical... if you dont mind my asking what exactly is the advantage to pinfire? seems like a really cool little piece of fire arm history.

@rakumprojects 9 месяцев назад

In the era they were made, pinfire cartridges were a massive step up from cap and ball or paper cartridges. They were quickly surpassed by rimfire and centerfire cartridges for practical reasons

@plasma5545 9 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojects thanks for the reply! i assumed they were adjacent to centerfire cartridges, but knowing they came before makes them all that much more cooler.

@SilntObsvr 6 месяцев назад

I'd love to get a pinfire revolver, but I just looked at GunBroker, and the cheapest ones I saw were above $500 in what looked like so-so condition. Maybe when I have some money to spare I'll have to prowl the local gun shows. Meantime, I still need to decide whether to convert my .32 Rimfire Long revolver to centerfire .38 Colt or make up cases with offset nail gun blanks for ignition. I hate to alter a gun that's more than a century old, but loading ersatz rimfires requires perfect alignment, and the nail gun blanks seem likely to cause an overload in a gun made for black powder only.

@JLHU-ks8ir 12 дней назад

I am late but you can use 6mm flobert blanks (22 bb cap) used for starter pistols. they dont have that much powder in them, so they wont cause an overload. even in a .22 (normal bullet) the cap alone can cause a squib.

@SilntObsvr 12 дней назад

I understood Flobert ammunition, both with and without bullet, was powered only by the primer, like Aguila Kolibri ( only too short for most modern .22 guns).

@Johnny-jr2lq 3 месяца назад

Your pin fire cases with out the lathe work done and sized to .356 makes great 350 legend projectiles…… I really need a lathe and a mill. I was able to turn 308 Winchester cases into 35 Remington. However if I had a lathe the process of reforming the extractor groove would have been so much easier. Instead of using a drill and a file but we make do with what we have.

@n0tquitesane 6 месяцев назад

Very cool, but my question is how do you reload them? Also, it seems you found a use for Berdian primed 9mm.

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

I reload them the same way that I make them. The cases don't really expand in the chambers, so they don't require sizing.

@n0tquitesane 6 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojects What about re-priming? do you just knock the old cap off, and glue on a new one?

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

@@n0tquitesane Yes. The only thing I've noticed is that the fit of the pin gets looser. Cases that had a snug fit before firing now have a loose fit and require nail polish to hold the pin in place

@n0tquitesane 6 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojects thanks. That sounds easy enough. Now all I need is a pinfire revolver.

@truereaper4572 4 месяца назад

Are the casings able to be reloaded and reused?

@rakumprojects 4 месяца назад

Yes, though the holes for the pins do loosen up

@6strings1pickup12 6 месяцев назад

I need something to carry soon when I go elk hunting, too many Grizzlies around. Can I borrow this?

@gamebriz4163 11 месяцев назад

👌👍

@tonyhamady498 4 месяца назад

👏👏👏👌👍🙏😉❤️

@teufelboy666 6 месяцев назад

Kein wunder das sich das nicht gegen die Zentralfeuerpatrone durch gesetzt hat ^^.

@jackvogenitz4284 5 месяцев назад

do you reload those

@rakumprojects 5 месяцев назад

Yes. The only thing I've noticed is that the hole for the pin gets slightly looser.

@kevinmarrett9532 4 месяца назад

The only thing I don’t understand is why such a weak powder charge?

@rakumprojects 4 месяца назад

The construction and steel quality in these is pretty questionable. Cap and ball revolvers like Colts and Remingtons are much better built. Better safe than sorry