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Making a Capacitor Discharge Tool // Discharge Capacitors in a Tube Amplifier // Tube Amp Safety 

Mike Freda
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In this video I show you how I make two different Capacitor Discharge Tools.
I also show you how I use this tool on a guitar tube amp. (A Fender Harvard Clone)
The capacitors in a tube amplifier can hold a charge for an extended period of time. Just because the amp is unplugged doesn't mean it is safe to work on! Before you work on it, discharge the capacitors.
Time Constant Calculator: www.digikey.ca...
WARNING: Tube amplifiers contain very high and potentially lethal voltages!
Drain all filter caps and check voltages before commencing work.
Work should ultimately be done by a qualified Technician
familiar with tube amplifier testing, trouble shooting and repairs!
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Комментарии : 44   
@philipkershaw7918
@philipkershaw7918 6 месяцев назад
Instructive, entertaining, promoting best practice and safety. What's not to like! excellent work.
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda 6 месяцев назад
Much appreciated! Cheers
@rocketpoolpki
@rocketpoolpki 3 года назад
Cool upload Mike, I made a 10w 100ohm version years ago, think I got the idea from Uncle Doug but seems I am wayyy under the mark so I am going to make an upgraded version today...as my father used to say..."Boy with pliers, mess with wires, blue flashes.......grey ashes"
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda 3 года назад
Glad it inspired you. I’ve made a few and I seem to always grab the steel rod one that I made. Just seems to fit in the hand nicely and can get into tight spaces.
@robbycumby8019
@robbycumby8019 Год назад
Great idea and I think useful for hvac tech also rather than shorting with a screwdriver like i have seen in many hvac fix videos. Thanks
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda Год назад
You’re welcome! Cheers.
@personalPickle
@personalPickle 4 месяца назад
awesome video, well done man
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda 4 месяца назад
Thanks for commenting. I’m glad you liked the video and found it helpful. Cheers.
@fredflintstone8048
@fredflintstone8048 3 года назад
I've seen quite a few videos on making these. In one video someone demonstrated their probe on a cap charged to 450 volts.. There was a meter connected. They touched the probe and the voltage dropped to near nothing. They removed the probe and the voltage had climbed back up a certain amount. Connecting a resistor creates an RC circuit with an associated time constant to discharge. This is why for my probe I put an insulated alligator clip on the end and leave it connected for several seconds allowing me to do something else. I also used a fairly low value resistor to cut that time down. I will admit though a 'touch' probe is better than nothing.
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda 3 года назад
Yes, you are correct. It does climb back up a bit but only a few volts. I typically touch for 5-10 seconds. But yes, attaching clips to let it drain for an extended period of time is also a good idea.
@budibudi2414
@budibudi2414 3 года назад
Good job
@mikesizemore9153
@mikesizemore9153 Год назад
Would like a video on real time, not sped up so the viewer can see what is being done, I personally would rather have a normal speed video
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda Год назад
Thanks for commenting. People have said this before to me. I thought it was pretty self explanatory just hooking up some resistor in series with the rear wire lead and clip. I can draw you a picture or detailed photo if you like. Cheers.
@davidbacheler1399
@davidbacheler1399 Год назад
That was a great answer. @@MikeFreda
@jonathanhorne6503
@jonathanhorne6503 10 месяцев назад
I usually just use an alligator clip lead connected to ground and the tube side of a plate resistor. If you hav an amp with a storage cap on the hot side of a standby switch make sure you close the switch.
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for commenting. Yes, that is another way to do it. You can also add a high value, high voltage rating “bleeder” resistor into the circuit at the PSU section is also a good idea.
@edb705
@edb705 3 года назад
Great vídeo Mike! Thanks for share!
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda 3 года назад
You’re welcome!
@49VinCom
@49VinCom Год назад
Thanks for this video.
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda Год назад
You're welcome. Its a great tool to have. Cheers.
@aarongonzalez200
@aarongonzalez200 4 месяца назад
Can some respond this? Are Solid state amps safe to operate into them or I need to do the same thing
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda 4 месяца назад
Yes. Solid state amps typically run at a much lower voltage than tube amps but they do have power supply capacitors to filter the AC ripple out of the DC. They are typically a higher value in capacitance but a lower voltage rating so there still is a risk. Some have draining resistors but it’s still a good idea to measure and/or drain. Cheers.
@williamlewis4379
@williamlewis4379 Год назад
Hi Mike, thanks for making this video. On wattage of the resistor, you used a 25 watt for yours. How important is the wattage of the resistor? I have a 10 watt 1000 ohm resistor in my spare bin I was looking to use. I'm looking to discharge my AC capacitor. Thanks
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda Год назад
Thanks for commenting. 10watt will be fine if you use it small to medium tube amps. When they are off it’s just a instantaneous current spike then it drops rapidly. (As per the time constant). At 500v a 1000ohm resistor could see 0.5amp for a split second then rapidly decrease. What you can do it put two larger ones in parallel or two smaller ones in series for added protection. Cheers.
@lp12vinylrips
@lp12vinylrips 2 года назад
Thanks for the great video. I have some hifi amps with virtually all popropyelene non polar caps - even the PSU caps, which are Solen polypropylenes. If you have non polar caps instead of polar, can you discharge the cap in the same way (one end of the wire to chassis and other to one end of the cap?, - If so, I assume it doesn’t matter which end you touch on the cap?) Or can you not use the one wire end to ground technique for non polar caps? I’ve seen other videos where people just use a resistor ends going tk each end of the Individual cap end, - instead connecting one end to the chassis. That looks more inconvenient though. Any advice would be appreciated.
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda 2 года назад
Hello, thanks for commenting. Even though Solen Caps are not Polarized, they still need to be drained (especially if they are in the PSU section) Since the negative side is already at ground potential, you still need to drain the B+ rail side (just like in the video) then test with a Multi-meter. Some caps in a circuit are bypassed with a resistor and will drain quickly but you should try to do every cap and test before you work on an amp. Cheers.
@lp12vinylrips
@lp12vinylrips 2 года назад
@@MikeFreda Hi Mike. Thanks a lot for the reply. Much appreciated. The problem is, as these caps in my monoblock 300B amps are non polar, I’m uncertain which side of them is the B+ side. (I didn’t build them myself). It’s not obvious like it would be with an electrolytic polar cap (where you can easily identify the positive end of each cap) Would a reasonable strategy be to connect one end of the meter to the chassis ground then touch (one after another) each end of each cap with the other probe of the volt meter (with resistor installed). I assume nothing will happen when you touch the end of each cap which is at ground, and you’ll get draining of the cap when you touch the other B+ end. My amps have wooden cases so that’s obviously not appropriate to fix one probe to for ground. The Top plate however is metal. I assume that would be ok as ground? Or maybe another technique might be to touch each of the probes ends on each end of each individual capacitor (instead of connecting one probe to chassis ground) . I’ve seen people do this before, sometimes just using a resistor between the ends briefly. It obviously takes much longer though than the other method. There is probably also a higher chance of putting both hands inside the amp at once!, which worries me!
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda 2 года назад
I see, well, not knowing how your amp is wired/made I can’t really comment on the process. All I can say is use a tool like mine and touch the leads on both sides of the caps. One side should be grounded and then a multimeter to confirm the amp is fully discharged.
@montag4516
@montag4516 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. So putting two resistors in series will indeed double the resistance? Example 500ohm plus 500ohm would equal 1000ohm? Does this have the same affect on the wattage rating as well? Have my parts on hand, so I will make a couple of these so I safely do some minor work on my amps.
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda 3 года назад
Yes, you are correct and that will work just fine. Probably want to go with at least 5 watts each. Most tube amp drop voltages pretty quick... ie charge curve... that last remaining volts are a lot lower and take additional time to zero out.
@dumbdickler670
@dumbdickler670 3 года назад
Resistors do add in series. A 100 ohm fed into a 200 ohm fed into a 50 ohm would give you an equivalent resistance of 100+200+50 (350) ohms
@kubockferre5532
@kubockferre5532 Год назад
Hi mike can i make resistor weld on metal scewdriver im not sure.thanks
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda Год назад
Hi, you can but I would recommend using a screwdriver that is voltage rated. Milwaukee, Klein and Wera make them. I would also use voltage rated heat shrink as well to cover up any loose leads. Cheers
@tonewheel5631
@tonewheel5631 Год назад
OK, all clear except one thing. At the 3;00 mark, you say “we’ll solder the end on”, but what exactly is that black cord? Wire spec? Don’t you have to first strip the end off from that black cord?
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda Год назад
Thanks for commenting. When editing, I thought that was self explanatory. Yes, strip the end of the wire, solder and cover it with heat shrink. Don't let it ground out on the rod portion of the tool. Standard hookup wire is okay. 22-18 ga is fine. There isn't a lot of current here so wire size is not that important just as long as it rated to ~600volts. Cheers
@RsqSqr
@RsqSqr 2 года назад
Do u do commission?
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda 2 года назад
Hello, unfortunately, on this tool or tube amps I don’t, sorry.
@Paulbunyanman
@Paulbunyanman 8 месяцев назад
Mike I am new to this and really want to get started building some small amps and doing maintaince on my amps. This info is so appreciated. What amp kits would you recommend ?
@A87CEO
@A87CEO 2 года назад
Can you use it to safely discharge a capacitor in a central air conditioner?
@MikeFreda
@MikeFreda 2 года назад
It depends what the size of the capacitor is. If it’s just a standard run start one then yes. If it’s a larger home rated for very high voltage you would need to calculate the RC time constant of that just to make sure it is safe. But the general idea would be the same.
@A87CEO
@A87CEO 2 года назад
@@MikeFreda Thank you for your prompt reply. My A/C capacitor is 45 + 5.0 mfd, 370-440 VAC, 50-60Hz, protected 10,000AFC
@flintdavis2
@flintdavis2 Год назад
Use 250volt lamp and watch it dim.
@bryanpatrick7272
@bryanpatrick7272 5 месяцев назад
What about a 25w bulb?
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