Making a Huge Upgrade || Small Shop Dust Extraction 

Love the What about Bob reference!!

I am in awe of your ability to sit cross legged on the floor!! Also, YOU READ THE INSTRUCTIONS!! Amazing!!!!You are the MAN!!

As an electrical contractor, I noticed that your outlet covers, flexible conduit, and electrical boxes are not correct. They should be a type that prevents dust from getting into them. If you leave them as they are currently, you can have a fire, or in the worst case, an explosion due to an environment filled with saw dust. A cabinet shop is an area that is considered a Class 3, Division 1 (Combustible Dusts) work environment by the National Electrical Code, aka NEC. Think grain elevator... Most cabinet and home shops miss this if they don't have an electrical inspection. You also should think about having that water heater moved, as it has an open ignition source (flame).

A thousand likes for Jason’s humor and woodworking skills

Saturday morning Cereal and Bourbon Moth!! woohoo

For everybody else, I used 4" PVC DWV 10' sections ($25 ea), and associated fittings. Then I got two 1hp blowers from Harbor Freight ($100 ea). I made a vortex extractor with a metal garbage can ($30) & a half sheet of MDF. Then I blow the exhaust outside so I don't need expensive filters.

Enjoying watching you build your new shop one "baby step" at a time😅 Thanks for sharing!

Here’s me with my vacuum and plastic barrel from Amazon 😂

Man, I wish I could afford this! I love the metal piping, but had to settle for typical PVC drain pipe. I did add an Oneida Super Dust Deputy XL with a 20 gal. drum below it to my Grizzly 1250 and could not be happier... it grabs 99.9% before it makes it to the collector. A dust sweep is the sweetest add-on I did!

I have this same dust collector, it is about a year old, I have been very happy with it, good choice.

Baby step to the garage. Baby step to clean the garage. Baby step to install Oneida dust collection system.

Great video, and I do admire the Oneida system and associated ductwork. Very pretty. That said, here are a few things I do have to say. The Oneida system takes the airborne dust down to "less that 1 micron". That's not enough filtration to make your shop really safe. You want to get down to 0.3 micron of the stuff that floats for hours. Now, I can easily do that with a face mask, but I hate wearing the damn thing for hours on end. The Oneida system costs $2,500 to $5,000 for a small shop, depending on ductwork. That's a VERY long way from my budget. My dust collection system in my shop is designed to do one thing only. That one thing is to convey the smaller, dangerous particles to a filter that removes them. It takes me all of 10 minutes to sweep the floor of the large stuff that my tools discharge, so I don't care about the big stuff. So, how do I get this done? I have a 1-hp used Grizzly dust collector that I bought for $125 from a non-profit, a 12' long, 2.5-inch $40 hose from Amazon, and a bunch of PVC adapters, largely from the Habitat store, that I plug the hose into at each of my tools. I built hoods for my lathe and my chop saw. This gets the fine dust from every tool station to the Grizzly, which discharges out of the top bag particles down to 3 microns. Right above the bag I have a wall-mounted, DIY 20" by 20" filter box that takes that discharge down to 0.3 microns. There are bunch of You Tube plans for these. I also made a 2nd one to station above my disc sander. Total cost came to about $300, since all of the filter box materials and filters came from Habitat. The box fans came from Target. Yes, you do get to lug the hose from tool to tool, and you do have to sweep the floor, but the shop is safe, and I get to spend the money I saved on more tools.

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It's so nice looking I would struggle with using it knowing it's going to get dirty! On another note, watching this makes me glad I use a majority of hand tools for my work. ALOT less dust. Doesn't work with plywood of course. But that's what my shop vac and face mask are for.

That thing is huge!

floor sweep, I'm sure the supervisior will be making use of that!😉😉😂😂

That's a real cadillac system! Having fitted a lot of duct "the old way", I admire the clamp method. Suggestion: use some of that plumbers strap to secure the top of the support frame to the two walls. As you noted, it has a small base, and over time there is opportunity to shove something into the base and tip the whole thing over. And/or that heretofore unknown seismic fault under your building shifts and you get a lot more than dust all over the floor. In many places, this is a Code requirement, but in every place it's a good idea. Think of the tall furniture you've anchored to a wall to prevent overturn. Think "kid safe". YOU're the kid!!

“Bob, the bags I put around your neck, where are they?”

"Keep sailing, Bob."

I'm jealous. That strapping you were using is called plumbers tape.

Andy Rawls over here making Cannons and ol' Bourbon Moth is making jokes about Bazookas. Let's see that Bazooka, man!

Great video. I'm building my own workshop now, after watching your channel as well as some others (Make Something and Start Making are great). It will possibly be the smallest production workshop in the world...... when it's finished!

That Oneida looks so much better than the Harvey. Make sure it doesn't suck your socks off while you sweep! We do have speed limits here in Germany, btw. Anyhow, have fun. Looking forward to that video.

Awesome reference to What About Bob? Nice work!

I love your content, but the premise of this video (especially given how you described it in last week’s video) seems off the mark to me. Most people working in small garage shops A) don’t have probably $5k to spend on a big collector plus aluminum ducting and B) don’t have 220v readily available in their garage. It seems every video on RU-vid about “small shop dust collection” is really just “large shop dust collection” but with less ducting. I’m still yet to find a video that compares things like smaller 1-2hp collectors that run on 120v, or whether you’re better off running a single small collector vs a shop vac. It seems once RU-vid woodworkers start getting thrown free product, they lose touch with what small hobbyist shops are actually like and the limitations some folks have. I work in one bay of my 2-car garage in a space that’s about 8’ x 13’ - that Oneida unit would take up about 1/5 of my total floor space. This isn’t a woe is me tale, more an ask that if you’re going to tailor a video to home woodworkers working in small shops, make it actually relevant and applicable to people in those situations.

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I named our favorite cat "What about Bob" 😂 the vet staff would crack up whenever we brought him in for a check up

I think you will like the Oneida system. I have the "Dust Gorilla" from them for the last 16 years or so. Only problem I have had with it is the remote control on the magnetic starter. It sometimes does not work so well to turn it off. (Turns on OK, but off doesn't always work unless you are right up on it and by that time, you might as well just hit the starter manually since you're standing right there) They have a video of how to extend the antenna on the receiver. Doesn't do much, IMO. Also, the remote has quit working completely twice in those 16 years necessitating a replacement each time. (about $50 a pop) Other than that, love the dust collector. Does a great job. Mine is a traditional dust collector, so does not do much for sanders, etc. You need a high pressure unit for that. I think they call them "supercells" now at Oneida. Given a choice now, I would probably get a supercell since they can apparently handle both high volume AND high pressure. But as I say, no issues with the Dust Gorilla in my experience, it can really move some air and chips.

Excited to see what you make from that pallet that came with the kit….

When you're getting 5000 dollars worth of equipment for free from a company then it's sponsored bro stop playin your audience for fools

If glue isn't a contaminant you need to avoid, you should get a machine to make pellets for a grill/smoker.

Jason, the new shop is coming along real well man! The Oneida dust collector is pretty sweet! P.S. What About Bob is a masterpiece 👍

When you said "bazooka" I had flashbacks of the wooden tank episode...

The “witch’s hat” is part of the cyclonic separator? It’s a literal Sorting Hat! 😂

Good Day 🌅, nice job, I think reason why there is a plastic liner inside the plastic bag, it’s prevent the sawdust from building up inside the ribs of the oil drum that’s being used as the dust collector, as you would struggle to try and pull the bag out of the container, I am trying to set up my dust collection system in my basement at the moment, my main problem is as my ducting is too big and diameter. It’s 250 mil., Felder , as it was used for my big workshop back in the UK, I have what you could call downsized, look 👀 forward to seeing your next project, from France.

That bag in 55 gal drum is gonna be heavy when its full. Those 2 garbage cans are easier to handle. But I definitely get it...if you can afford it

Love your videos, 😅and your character is amazing.

I got a 3 hp Oneida system maybe 25 years ago. Due to height concerns, I couldn't get more than a 35 gallon barrel, but they have changed the design since then, and with the new design, I could work with a 55 gallon system. The old filter would go down to 0.5 microns. The new one, updated maybe a year ago, goes down to 0.05 micron. Back when I got mine, they only had the "Lone Ranger" for remote control, which is still available through Penn St. I have not updated to their newer system. My system easily handled every thing I could throw at it in my old 860 sq. ft. shop. I built a new shop which is about 2500 sq. ft, and put it in the middle of the shop so it will handle my lathe room and my flat work room, no problem. It is nice that they will design your duct system. They have made a number of upgrades that way as well. I have been thinking about some magnetic clip ons for some of the dust ports I use. I do shovel up most of the shavings from my lathe room, and my hand plane shavings. I could top off my 35 gallon barrel in an hour with my bowl turning..... An excellent system. Oh, another thing, ft./minute is one measure. Static pressure is another, and the static pressure is by far the more important. Oneida excels at that! Not sure, but I think the Harvey system will handle sparks from the grinders that I have. Oneida will not. Need to figure out some sort of filter for that....

Nice "What About Bob" reference. Lol

I remember and episode of The Beverly Hillbillys; Jethro had a diregreedo.... granny smashed it and said "now it's a diregreeDON"T"

This is great, appreciate you sharing smaller shop space management like this. I did want to ask, though: What happens to the dust you remove after the bins are full? You referenced a dust pile, but I wasn't sure how that works. Thank you!

Oneida is something we say in Norway, typical use-case: "Oneida du" - translates to "oh no you don't"

If it’s Oneida, it’s alll-right-a 🎵

Hey goober, that looks like my ladder. I am on my way.

A sound comparison would be cool.

What About Bob? One of my favorites. ❤

After that intro, better help is needed! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Curious to see what table saw you are replacing the old pair with!

What about Bob was such a great movie!

I’d have put the light right in the center of the garage ceiling so I’d see it if I was in the middle of a cut

"Talk about weird." 😆

I thought the idea of doing the 2 car garage shop set up was so we could utilize these ideas in our shops. Well, my friend, you missed already. You need to realize we don't have corporate sponsors throwing equipment at us to set up our shops. Swing and a MISS!

Fisher’sShop has a system from them as well

@Bourbon Moth, Big fan of your sliding wall. Can you let me know what railing hardware you used and where to get it? If you already mentioned it in one of your videos, I must’ve missed it. Thank you very much.

Baby steps Jason.

I have the Gorilla pro 5hp and love it.

How many woodworkers out there find it hilarious that he calls this a "small" shop?

14:57 waving robot man 😀

There is a problem when you store adhesive tape on tension ( like it is done for the seals), it will probably get loose after some time. I`m sure thats why it isnt done (besides saving money) before final assambley. They could do it before shipping, I here you say. But they dont know how you storage it, and on what temperature, before putting it together. Let you do it seems to be the most save way to make sure the sals are tight, and fixated between the parts.

Your Didgeridoo sounds like Scatman John 😂

"What About Bob." That wasn't even a challenge. I expect better from you!

I would love to see a siren flashing. Only in America.

Just one question - Did you leave enough space for your barn doors to slide?

Nice!

What are you going to do for power? Now the garage is going to need more juice and I’m sure 3 15amp breakers won’t cut it!

Do you connect any of your dust producing devices(tools) to the Onieda system or just allow the dust to fall directly to the floor and then just sweep into the collection port?

The weight of a 55-gallon drum of sawdust depends on the type of wood and the moisture content of the sawdust. Here's a general estimate: - **Dry sawdust** typically weighs around 10 to 20 pounds per cubic foot. - **55 gallons** is about 7.35 cubic feet (since 1 gallon equals 0.1337 cubic feet). Using these estimates: - **Low end (10 lb/ft³)**: 7.35 cubic feet × 10 lb/ft³ = **73.5 pounds**. - **High end (20 lb/ft³)**: 7.35 cubic feet × 20 lb/ft³ = **147 pounds**. Therefore, a 55-gallon drum of sawdust could weigh approximately **73 to 147 pounds**, depending on its density and moisture.

Some is wrong when a dust collector is more expensive than an air conditioner. JMO.

Do you take all that saw dust and chips to get repurposed?

Welcome to Australia 🇦🇺 any time dude. Love your didge playing.

Wondering if you would use Milwaukee tools?

Less trips to empty the dust b8n means more time for Craig to sand.

It looks like you're setting up a still.

Did you finish the interior of the treeless tree house?

You need to build a permanent spot where you keep the remote otherwise it will disappear quicker than I do whenever you start an ad read 🎉

Was that the "What about Bob" movie quote??

Jason, Didgeri Don't :)

Fun fact, I live on Lake Winnipesaukee and my dog's name is Winni. In anyway does that qualify me for a discount on a BB? Also, I so it in the theater!

Nice❤

What’s the point of a duct collection system if you never remember to turn on your dust extractor?

Small shop dust extraction - Step 1, sell a kidney. Step 2, Install Collection system.

Morning

$3,699.00 Looks nice, steep price 👍

What is the design volume and pressure of the system

All that work for a floor sweep, a dust pan is much cheaper! 😂

Do you have any projects to do with your son coming up?

What's the list price for everything in this video?

What about Bob?

“Small shop”… that things bigger than my house

What about Bob

How much does that ductwork run per foot

Didgeridoo? More like didgeridont. Was that a Truman Show quote?

Jason, betterhelp? Really? I know you can do better than that

Why isn't the cardboard in the barrel the other way around? I bet there are a lot of people throwing it away without checking the back side

Can you level up the bottom of the doors, PLEASE?

Honestly, I personally would rather have your old one. Getting that huge bag full of dust out and then getting rid of that much dust all at once is not going to be fun. I also would think with all the assembly you have and already shipping it on a pallet they should have some of those steps already put together for you

I’m thinking this size dust collection wouldn’t fit in my 2 car garage because of the vertical dimensions , my ceiling is just shy of 8’ , what is the height of this unit ? For now I’m going stay with my current one anyways a grizzly 2hp polar edition sitting in the middle of my garage with my tools surrounding it and a wireless remote from grizzly

What about Bob!!

My small shop is 20 x smaller. Maybe I'll call it micro shop